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New Animated Star Trek In The Works
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on Thu Dec 14, 2006 02:16 PM
from the sounds-fine-by-me dept.
from the sounds-fine-by-me dept.
Philias writes "A new web-based Star Trek Animated Series may be in the works. CBS is considering a pitch by veteran Trek producer Dave Rossi for a 'Clone Wars' style animated series for StarTrek.com. Like Clone Wars the episodes would be just a few minutes long. Unlike the old animated Trek show from the 70s, this one would be with a whole new crew set in a new time period. The setting is to be a war-torn post-9/11-like Trek universe 150 years after the time of Picard." From the post: "The Zero Room team felt that the time was right for a new approach to Trek. The setting is the year 2528 and the Federation is a different place after suffering through a devastating war with the Romulans 60 years earlier. The war was sparked off after a surprise attack of dozens of 'Omega particle' detonations throughout the Federation creating vast areas which become impassible to warp travel and essentially cut off almost half the Federation from the rest. During the war the Klingon homeworld was occupied by the Romulans, all of Andoria was destroyed and the Vulcans, who were negotiating reunification with the Romulans, pulled out of the Federation. The setting may seem bleak and not very Trek-like, but that is where the show's hero Captain Alexander Chase comes in."
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Alexander Chase? (Score:2, Insightful)
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Re:Alexander Chase? (Score:5, Insightful)
Yeah, this does seem awfully close to re-pitching Andromeda (back in the Trek universe where it started)....
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Maybe they should do a reverse TNG: hire a French actor to play a British captain who's enamored with Voltaire.
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There you go. See how much better than is?
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And the first time travel episode will be... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:And the first time travel episode will be... (Score:5, Funny)
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It already happened six episodes ago.
-Grey [wellingtongrey.net]
Re:And the first time travel episode will be... (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:And the first time travel episode will be... (Score:5, Informative)
Then they decided to be an action show.
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Re:And the first time travel episode will be... (Score:5, Insightful)
Vedran homeworld plot? Gone.
Magog plot? Gone.
Abyss plot? Gone.
The really cool human technologists who became the Commonwealth's enemy? Gone.
I mean, is it even possible to do any more injustice to a show?
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"I mean, is it even possible to do any more injustice to a show?"
AKAImBatman begins casting Summon Browncoat Army (I)...
AKAImBatman's spell fizzles.
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R. H. Wolfe was actually an executive producer. The problem was Sorbo.... They've just gotta start hiring actors that don't insist on becoming producers so they have so much control of the story. Same problem with Patrick Stewart and Brent Spiner... My guess is it was their input that killed Nemesis and Insurrection.
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Yeah, the setup for Farscape was more like The Wizard of Oz. The lead gets pulled into a swirly storm-like phenomenon, taken from the ordinary world, dropped in a fantastical place where s/he accidentally causes the death of some probably-nasty character. The deceased's nasty sibling then declares revenge and pursues the lead across the region. And for all the adventures the lead has, s/he just wants to ge
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Super Nerds! (Score:2, Funny)
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New Animated Star Trek (Score:2, Insightful)
As long as..... (Score:2)
No more wagon train to the stars.... (Score:2, Insightful)
Star Trek became closer to Star Wars as time went along. And a new series based after a war? No shit....You'd think they would actually sit down and try to come up with a thought provoking story at some point.
They got it, but they don't know how to handle it. (Score:5, Interesting)
What the fuck? They have an entire section going trans-human with Borg technology
Instead
That makes no sense what-so-ever.
And
Captain's Log, Stardate 2528 point 4. I have beamed half the crew into space during a mutiny. They had forgotten that this was a Star Fleet vessel and not a Democracy. I will
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Klingons on the Starboard Bow (Score:2)
It's crap, Alex, but not as we know it,
Not as we know it,
Not as we know it,
It's crap, Alex, but not as we know it, not as we know it, Captain.
It's worse than that, it's dead, Alex!
Dead, Alex!
Dead, Alex!
It's worse than that, it's dead, Alex! Dead, Alex, dead!
"The franchise is dead, Jim." (Score:5, Insightful)
Does new Trek content really have dominion over any part of our cultural consciousness anymore? Go on: quote me a well known line from Voyager. No, no -- the show. Remember? How could you forget? It not only featured the worst series finale of any TV show ever produced, it also made my ears bleed whenever the quavering caterwauling of that shifty-ass captain sounded.
And let's not forget Enterprise...no, wait -- let's.
Anyone who sat through Deanna and Riker's wedding in those waiter uniforms knows what I'm talking about: the whole idea has seen its day, and Star Trek should be buried alive...buried alive...buried alive...
The franchise peaked with "There are four lights!"
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"Get that cheese to sickbay!"
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"Get the cheese to sickbay. The doctor should look at it as soon as possible."
Click on Mister Cheesey. [ihoc.net]
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Not at all; they haven't even meaningfully tapped the universe. What they have done is exhausted the "human space jockey" plotline.
All kinds of potential new stories still exist, just centered on one of the other major players. What about a Klingon centered series, for example? Or the backstory on the Vulcan/Romulan split? The origins of the Borg?
Plenty of interesting ideas--too bad no one will do anyth
Religious Conservative calls Federation "Fascist" (Score:3, Interesting)
Wow. Just wow. That was just... horrible.
The author of that critique seems to be some kind of religious conservative who takes offense at the fact that the Federation doesn't use money and talk about God all the time. Nevermind the fact that they have replicators and thus there is no scarcity and no need for money OR for communistic redistribution of wealth - just throw your garbage into
A Fair Critique (Score:3, Interesting)
An Inconsistent Utopia (Score:3, Interesting)
But what about mark twain (Score:5, Insightful)
Why not any other series? (Score:4, Insightful)
So, is there a reason that we have to keep coming back to Star Trek - The Search for More Money every damn time?
The franchise is dead. People just don't seem to get it.
There's already a post-911 Star Trek on TV (Score:5, Insightful)
-Eric
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Old franchises never die. They just go on hiatus.
Consider Battlestar Galactica. The new series is pretty good, but does it really make sense for it to be a remake? From a storytelling point of view, the answer is a definite No: they made so many basic changes, they might as well have started from scratch. But that's not the way Hollywood works. It doesn't like taking chances, and even a remake of a lame Star Wars ripoff is "safer" than a totally new concept.
That's why Berman was able to retain control of
Racism in Star Trek continues apace (Score:5, Insightful)
Star Trek is dedicated to the idea that every species has one culture, one religion, one government, and they all belong together on the same planet (or at least the same star system). Anybody who dares to marry outside of their race, err, species, will have children that are horribly torn between their two distinct and apparently utterly immiscible heritages. "Oh, woe is me, shall I be Vulcan or Human because it isn't possible for me to forge my own distinct identity, I must only belong to one race, err, species!"
What other reasons would the Vulcans have for re-uniting with the Romulans? The Vulcans may be the same species but in almost every other way they are night and day; their culture, their philosophies, their approaches to problems, everything except maybe general arrogance. They're geographically separated so far apart that there was enough time before they re-discovered each other that they forgot they were related. They share few to no strategic interests.
But blood will out, apparently.
I bet Vulcan or Romulus ends up destroyed at some point (probably Vulcan) and all of the Vulcan refugees go live on Romulus, cause the post-TNG Star Trek mythos can't tolerate races living in two places.
Re:Racism in Star Trek continues apace (Score:5, Insightful)
The explanation for all of this is just that it makes a convenient shortcut for the writers: they don't have to spend any time on character development for minor characters in a given episode. Want a sneaky, conniving bad guy? Romulan. Want a greedy, selfish bad guy? Ferrengi. Want someone controlled by reason? Vulcan. Any race that you care to mention in Trek is characterized by a handful of primary traits that set them apart from everyone else. And almost every member of that race is an exemplar of their racial identity. I find it tiresome that so much of what happens in Trek is based entirely upon racial stereotypes. And I don't find it much of a consolation when they occasionally throw us a demented Vulcan or a noble Romulan.
The exception to this, of course, is the human race. Humans tend to be more realistic characters because they're not constrained by such narrow stereotypes. The stereotypes are still there, especially for people who are members of particular factions. But they're a little more tolerable.
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Re:Racism in Star Trek continues apace (Score:5, Funny)
I pity the rest of the races of our galaxy, whose architects are crippled by the fact that they can't use rectangles and arches because unbeknownst to them, twenty thousand light years away, humans already claimed them.
Pity the poor, primitive Kr'zilt'k of Tomporon, as they attempt to build their first primitive mud huts completely out of isosceles triangles.
Pity the poor, advanced RRRRRzzzzzzRrrz of ZZZZrrZzRz, as they try to build skyscrapers that look like clumps of mud stuck together, but fail due to the simple laws of materials science, and are thus stuck with cities built out of the equivalent of five-story buildings.
Curse humanity! Curse them and their claiming of the precious "simple, unadorned rectangle"!
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Personally, I find it amusing that you can use logic-mathematics to prove that Vulcan logic-popular-perception is fatally flawed, and that it is absolutely impossible to reason from simple first principles up to "The needs of the
Bad reference (Score:4, Insightful)
So there will be no liquids or gels allowed on starships? "Tea Earl Grey powdered"
I'm not even American and it still pains me to see how diluted 9/11 is becoming. Call it war-torn or whatever, but at least reference an event that occurred in a warzone.
Oh God No!!! (Score:3)
Re:Oh God No!!! (Score:4, Funny)
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~OT (Score:3, Informative)
down some Star Pilot on Channel K (S.P.O.C.K), a nifty little Sci-Fi Swedish band.
"Never Trust a Klingon" and "The Trouble with Tribbles" are especially good.
the further in the future the more magical it is (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Uniforms (Score:5, Funny)
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Deep Space Nine was more about politics than exploration. But in my opinion that's okay, because it still made good sci-fi (it was alien politics)! For example, they "explored" the ethical situation regarding the Tosk [wikipedia.org], the dichotomy between science and religion on Bajor, the drug dependence of the Jem'Hadar, biological warfare (Section 31 infecting the Founders with that disease), etc.
Re:Omega particles, really? (Score:4, Insightful)
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Someone always does reply that way. And then someone else says "Yes, it iscrazy... crazy enough to work!"
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Andromeda was a perfectly good show until Kevin Sorbo turned it into Hercules in Space.
Stardate 60418.6: Dead Horse Nebula In Sight. (Score:5, Interesting)
I didn't watch ANY of the spin-offs after they stopped making ST:TNG.
Why?
I recognized the horse, as it were, was dead. Sometimes, even most times, it's better to let the thing rot and disperse back into the environment, instead of resurrecting it over and over again. It's looking a bit tatty now.
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