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Lawsuit Invokes DMCA to Force DRM Adoption
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Zonk
on Fri May 11, 2007 09:04 AM
from the interesting-legal-tactic dept.
from the interesting-legal-tactic dept.
TechnicolourSquirrel writes "Forbes.com informs us that the company Media Rights Technologies is suing Microsoft, Apple, Adobe, and Real Networks for not using its DRM technology and therefore 'failing to include measures to control access to copyrighted material.' The company alleges that their refusal to use MRT's X1 Recording Control technology constitutes a 'circumvention' of a copyright protection system, which is of course illegal under the Digital Millenium Copryight Act. I would say more, but without controlling access to this paragraph with MRT's products, I fear I have already risked too much ..."
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How dare they.. (Score:4, Funny)
It gets worse... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:It gets worse... (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:It gets worse... (Score:5, Funny)
They can have as much control of my digi. hole as they want, just as long as they don't go after my anal. hole.
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Re:It gets worse... (Score:4, Funny)
Too late! [uncyclopedia.org]
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Re: (Score:3, Funny)
Can we stop Global Warming simply by getting all the lawyers to shut up...? What they spew is pretty close to methane...
Hilarious PR (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Hilarious PR (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Hilarious PR (Score:4, Funny)
Shouldn't they be sending out Commence and Continue letters?
By the way, I'm going to start suing random people for not buying products that I'm going to invent, because those products would be really good and would help them a lot. You've all been warned!
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Re:Hilarious PR (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:Hilarious PR (Score:4, Informative)
I might have tought they were hoping to settle out of court, because it would be cheaper to pay them off than to go to court and defeat them there, but considering their claim, that doesn't even seem likely. It must just be a way to get people to think about their product.
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Re:Hilarious PR (Score:5, Informative)
But since they know that, perhaps their claim isn't as unwinnable as it seems. I admit at first glance I thought it must be some kind of joke, but there might be some details that we are unaware of (the Forbes article is very brief). Perhaps there were negotiations to use their product, and those were abandoned in bad faith in some manner? Or perhaps they did find a legal loophole to sue about? Who knows. Should be interesting to watch.
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DRM's never been used for worthless suits before.. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:DRM's never been used for worthless suits befor (Score:5, Insightful)
I think it's high time we had lawsuit reform.
Reform #1: If lawsuit is deemed frivolous, plaintiff pays for defendant's legal fees, court costs, and some penalty to be divvied between the court and the defendant(s).
Reform #2: Neither party is allowed to spend more on legal fees and/or time spent, in the case of pro bono.
Reform #3: If a plaintiff has had 3 lawsuits deemed frivolous, they are barred from suing for one year. A fourth is 5 years. A fifth is 10 years.
Reform #4: A lawyer who's had 3 or more lawsuits dismissed for frivolity is suspended for one year. A fourth is grounds for disbarment. A fifth is automatic disbarment.
Like I said previously, IANAL. Some of these might already be in place. Some might not be good ideas. But the time for stopping this litigious nonsense has come.
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Re:DRM's never been used for worthless suits befor (Score:4, Interesting)
after being hit with a frivolous lawsuit, you can sue the plaintiff to recover your legal fees and have a good chance of winning.
In this case, I think plaintiff is asking for it (by suing some big corporations who can afford fighting this bullshit in court
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Re:DRM's never been used for worthless suits befor (Score:4, Insightful)
Reform #1: In the US, Rule 11 sanctions are available if you institute a frivolous lawsuit. The exact sanction is determined by the judge on a case-by-case basis, and may be against the party, his lawyer, the lawyer's firm or any combination thereof. It can be monetary or non-monetary.
Reform #2: Why? If they persist, there'll be another Rule 11 sanction, which would probably be worse.
Reform #3: I don't think you need this. Lawsuits are expensive enough, as-is. If you're forced to pay the other side's fees (see #1), you'll stop quick enough.
Reform #4: This just isn't a problem. How many lawyers do you know who have even filed one frivolous lawsuit?
If this story isn't a complete farce, then there are probably some important details that we're missing.
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Re: (Score:3, Insightful)
The last thing we want is for lawyers to be in prisons. THOUSANDS of potential clients, all with nowhere to run. No, that's just not fair.
Re:DRM's never been used for worthless suits befor (Score:5, Funny)
Martha! Fetch up the chainsaw! We got us a legal problem needs fixin.
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I know you were kidding around I'm just bored.
DRM (Score:5, Insightful)
Let me be the first to call BULLSHIT on that. DMCA only applies AFTER you've applied DRM to the material involved. I hope the judge tells this little company to GTFO of his courtroom and laugh them out of court because in all honesty this lawsuit is bullshit.
Remember it is the right of the company to choose NOT to protect the copyright with DRM. Apple is taking a step in the right direction with their iTunes store with the DRM-free songs people can buy even if is its $1.30 (which may be more than the market is willing to bear).
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Re:DRM... No!!! We WANT them to WIN!!! (Score:5, Insightful)
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Indeed, GP is blind (Score:3, Insightful)
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Re:DRM (Score:4, Informative)
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Couldn't anyone say this? (Score:5, Interesting)
These guys are pretty big tools to think that they'll actually get away with this....then again, the way the government (and silly laws) work, they may just win the day.
Just another reason why DRM is not just shit, but it's evil shit.
Re:Couldn't anyone say this? (Score:4, Funny)
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I'm filing suit against Media Rights Technologies (Score:5, Funny)
Some companies really have no conscience.
This just in: (Score:5, Funny)
Re:This just in: (Score:5, Funny)
Eh. They'd probably break parole and just not show up. Slackers.
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Re:This just in: (Score:5, Funny)
Eh. They'd probably break parole and just not show up. Slackers.
Nah, they just put them to work in congress.
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A life sentence of pushing up daisies, I presume?
c.
A blow to academia (Score:3, Funny)
We're all complicit (Score:5, Interesting)
I just found the above text at the bottom of all /. pages. Read that again: all pages. Taking all the posts into account, that means there are probably limitless violations right on this site. In fact, I have to admit that this comment uses no technology from Media Rights Technologies to encrypt it. Perhaps I should have posted as an AC.
Paging George Orwell! (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Paging George Orwell! (Score:5, Informative)
Wrong. Any time you have someone claiming you have to buy their product or service because it is the law (true or not), that's statism, not capitalism. Anytime someone argues that buying their product/service should be mandated by law, that's statism. A Capitalist wants the government to not interfere with her business transactions. Buying and/or selling does not a capitalist make.
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Business opportunity! (Score:5, Funny)
There is no lawsuit. (Score:5, Informative)
That's all.
There is no lawsuit. There's the apparent threat of a lawsuit, but that's all.
Move along folks. Move along.
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Wow, where can I get lawyers that cheap?
Re:There is no lawsuit. (Score:4, Informative)
It all started when:
"In the summer of 2001, The MoMI was hit with a cease-and-desist letter
from the RIAA for copyright infringement, alleging damages of $150 million
to their members. Upon further investigation it was discovered that
Microsoft had circumvented The MoMI's copy protection, exposing hidden
music files in an "upgrade" to the Windows Media Player, turning secure
MoMI performances into downloads."
After which they invented a magic "anti-Stream Ripping provision" which others did not implement, and since:
"The basis for the rate hikes was primarily a result of the webcasting
community failing to adopt content control technology that would maintain
the integrity of the streamed performance."
It seems that what they are essentially trying to do it to get somebody else to compensate them for the rate hike that they will have to pay "If the Internet Radio Equality Act is to pass", or pressure others to influence the content of the act.
This is really a non-story, and since their issue seems to be with internet radio and stream rippers the inclusion of Apple may be due to their misunderstanding of the technology involved.
And their actual goal:
"The message is clear and simple: if webcasting royalty rates are to be
equalized with Satellite or Digital FM broadcasts by passage of The
Internet Radio Equality Act, Stream Ripping protection provisions must be
added to the Bill before the CRB rates go into effect May 15, 2007."
Making their position no less bizzare, they don't want anyone to buy their technology, just illogical in a different way.
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Suicide or Buyout (Score:5, Interesting)
However, after engaging the brain for a microsecond, I suspect what they are trying to do is get themselves bought out, because that result is probably cheaper in the long run to one of the big DRM users out there (mm. surprised they didn't sue Sony/Disney)
Otherwise I read the case like this: I don't pay you to get your car keys from you in order to steal your car. I don't steal your car. I don't even know where your car is, and have no intention of stealing it, but I'm guilty of not using the official theft-prevention technology (i.e. your keys) to not steal it. I think that makes about as much sense as this lawsuit.
Macrovision once did the opposite (Score:5, Interesting)
license their DRM - because their DRM doesn't work.
The codecs we licensed for our products unintentionally ignored
the Macrovision DRM. It was simply caught by the error correction.
Macrovision threatened to sue the company I work at for violating
the DMCA. This could only be avoided if we explicitly checked their
DRM so we wouldn't ignore it accidentally. To check for their DRM,
we would need to license their system.
Re:Macrovision once did the opposite (Score:5, Interesting)
So instead, I'll point out that it is rumored that early development versions of TiVo were so good at extracting a video signal from noise that they accidentally were very effective at defeating most analog cable scrambling in use at the time. They then had to re-engineer the TiVo so it was no longer capable of that function.
This case though should still be thrown out. The DMCA only prevents circumvention of effective controls. That one has to look for a particular protection and react accordingly does not make it effective. If not for expected FCC regulations to require its recognition, the Broadcast Flag would similarly be ineffective, as it is with HDTV tuner cards created without including such a flag's recognition.
You need a law making recognition of your particular crackpot protection scheme mandated before you can argue that someone is violating the DMCA by not recognizing your particular crackpot protection scheme.
IANAL.
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I'm safe (Score:4, Funny)
Absolutely everything I produce (including this post) is encrypted with 26 rounds of a sophisticated encryption algorithm known as ROT13. Sometimes, when I'm feeling particularly concerned about the value of the IP I'm producing, I'll apply 32 or even 64 rounds of this algorithm!
I am afraid, however, that by decrypting this post, you are in violation of the DMCA. See you in court suckers!
Why is /. playing along with this? (Score:5, Insightful)
Board of directors? (Score:4, Insightful)
Geez, the world has gone insane
No lawsuit filed (Score:5, Insightful)
This is otherwise known as creative marketing, nobody even knew these guys existed up
to this point. Will they every file a lawsuit? Doubt it, but this little stunt makes
it possible that someone will look and possibly care about whatever snake oil they produce.
What Would Monty Python Do? (Score:3, Funny)