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Sony-Ericsson P900 Released 218

Posted by CmdrTaco from the phones-to-lust-after dept.
phil-trick writes "The Sony-Ericsson P900 was released today. Here is a detailed P900 Review. Also, to make linux oriented, here is a pice on how it Syncs with Linux"
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  • Good... time to upgrade (Score:3, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 21, 2003 @10:39AM (#7270499)

    Good... now I finally can replace my old antique P800.

  • Thanks (Score:5, Funny)

    by tmark ( 230091 ) on Tuesday October 21, 2003 @10:43AM (#7270543)
    Also, to make linux oriented, here is a pice on how it Syncs with Linux

    Thank you for that, I had absolutely no interest in reading an article if there isn't some sort of tie-in to Linux.

    • Re:Thanks (Score:2, Informative)

      by Linuxthess ( 529239 )
      Only Linux?

      As a cultured /.'er, the words ogg vorbis probably sends shivers down your spineless back.

      Yes, there is ogg vorbis support thru a skinnable app boringly called "Ogg Player" [geocities.com]. The only downside is that you can't use them as ringtones.
      It should also interest you to know that there is a SCUMM emulator port for SymbianOS called escummvm [dreo.org].

      The P900 is signifigantly better than the P800. You might even want to say that the P800 was an expensive beta test. The improvements include, but are not limite

      • I own a P800, but I don't plan on upgrading to a P900 - the improvements just aren't that significant in my book to warrant the hundreds of dollars of money, not to mention the time to sell-off the old unit and upgrade.

        1 - the screen resolution is the same, but looks larger because the flip is smaller. I have my flip removed anyway, so no big deal.

        2 - landscape mode is nice, though there's only a few apps that I need that use it.

        3 - firmware can be uploaded into the P800 as well, but it must be done at

  • 'Death of the PDA?' question revisited. (Score:4, Interesting)

    by rastakid ( 648791 ) on Tuesday October 21, 2003 @10:43AM (#7270550) Homepage Journal
    Geez, with this many features one starts to wonder if it's still possible to call with this thing ;-)

    Seriously though, this brings back the same question as posed on last Monday, in this article [slashdot.org]: Death of the PDA?
    • Even worse. Imagine people fooling with this thing while they drive down the road.
      • It does make me wonder if a lot of these new phones are designed without American transportation habits in mind (not that the world should cater to our habits, mind you). It seems to me that all of the features on these new "smart" phones cater more to a population that relies on public transporation, ie, someone else is doing the driving.

        Personally, I'd rather see phones with more emphasis on less expensive wireless headsets, better voice dialing (the ones I've used all suck) and bigger buttons so you ca
    • How does "integrating a phone in a PDA" classify as the Death of the PDA? I think it's the dead of the cellphone.
      • This isn't the death of the phone, simply a new way of defining it. There was a time when a phone was simply the device to spoke into heard the response. Then they added the ability to dial your party directly. Eventually, we came to accept that this was a standard feature of telephones and part of the definition. Same with touch-tone and memory dial technologies. Now we're expanding the definition to include text messaging, date book functionality, and network access.

        The phone won't die, just evolve.
    • Heh. Kinda reminds me of that old Ritchey-Rich watch with the phone, walkie-talkie, calculator, etc. that didn't tell time :)

      -WS
    • Seriously though, this brings back the same question as posed on last Monday, in this article: Death of the PDA?

      For me, the key problem, which seems hard to engineer around, is this:
      1)I would like the device to be so small that I can put it in my pocket
      2)I would like the display to be bigger than would fit in my pocket.

      Even if the device has both a phone and a to-do list it can only do either 1) or 2) for me, not both. Those that only do 1) we can call cell phones and those that can only do 2) PDA

  • What I like about it (Score:4, Funny)

    by robslimo ( 587196 ) on Tuesday October 21, 2003 @10:44AM (#7270560) Homepage Journal
    is that it should easy enough to program to it.

    Borland has announced [symbian.com] a version of C++ Builder for the Symbian OS, so I should feel right at home. Now, anyone have ideas for a killer app?

    Oh, wait. I don't have time for that kind of crap.

    • Re:What I like about it (Score:5, Funny)

      by MoonFog ( 586818 ) on Tuesday October 21, 2003 @10:53AM (#7270675)
      Now, anyone have ideas for a killer app?

      How about creating a Clippy to help people write their SMS.
      "It appears u r trying to send an sms, do u w4nt me to check it for mistypings ?"
      • t-9 [t9.com] already does that (on european nokias, sonys, etc) -doesn't it on US phones?

        it suggests words on input, you can add custom words to it, switch languages, etc

        it has removed - save from l33t-journalist-style-cliche the sort of 'u r g8' langauge from SMSs - as it's harder to type the abbreviation than it is to type the real word.
    • Visit my company's website, appforge.com [appforge.com], in the next few days to download MobileVB 4.0, an add-in to VB6 that lets you write applications for a wide range of handheld devices. We support the P800 and P900, and apps are very easy to create.
      • Not to be too rude, but I'm not a fan of the AppForge Booster, the application he's speaking about, which lets you run Visual Basic apps on your P800/900. I've had a P800 for nearly 10 months now, and I've tried it many times because someone wrote the app to require Booster.

        My problem is that Booster eats alot of precious RAM and makes the system unstable (I crash regularly with it installed). But worse - far worse, but not AppForge's fault - it unleashes crappy Basic programmers onto my phone. I'll insta
    • The killer app will be personal profile exchanges over wireless. Imagine, you walk into your local meat market / bar, glance down at your phone and you see the Friendster profiles of everyone overlaid of the picture the device took. Without the phone you would have spent the night following around that eye candy hot person that thinks Brittany Spears is deep. But with the phone you find that less flashy friend of a friend that likes the same books as you.

      A bar is one example where personal profile excha
    • This is just the Symbian SDK using the borland compiler. You dont realy get to use the interface builder to make the app. Whats more the SDK for Visual Studio is a bit better right now.

      That being said I'm going to a Borland/Nokia dev con next month where I'll get the new version of the dev kit which uses C++BuilderX and is suposed to be much better.

  • MP3 support (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Dreadlord ( 671979 )
    What I've found the most interesting after reading the article is MP3 support, both of Nokia's Symbian OS based phones (3650, 7650) don't have it, and it's even more cool to be able to use MP3's as ringtones.

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by account_deleted ( 4530225 )
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      • Re:MP3 support (Score:3, Interesting)

        by n0wak ( 631202 )
        I assume there'd be a size/length limit to the ringtones, but even then... I can imagine many, many people using Simpsons quotes as their ring tones. As if their constant verbal references aren't enough, we'll have phones saying things like "I bent my wookie!" or "We're sorry, the fingers you are using are too fat." oi.
      • Or you could use the feature to play a personalized message like "phone call for {unique-name}" so you know it's your phone ringing. That is, until your friends program their cell with the same mp3 and make you answer non-existent calls.

        I've always wanted to put this as my ring tone: "bug-eyed, phone call for you... {pause} bug-eyed, please answer your phone! {pause} bug-eyed!! telephone!!!! {pause} BUG-EYED! PICK UP THE DAM PHONE!!!"
    • Both nokia 3650 and 7650 support mp3 playback. You need to buy the application to do it though. Also, music is only mono (hardware limitation)

    • Re:MP3 support (Score:1, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward
      See, I find MP3 support on a cell phone, or PDA, useless. Who wants to drain their battery down to listen to maybe (if they're lucky) a 4 minute MP3 on some tiny speaker? Not I. Having MP3 support is a novelty, its not practical.

      • Re:MP3 support (Score:2, Insightful)

        by nahojd ( 528555 )
        You know, it comes with stereo headphones that also functions as handsfree. And if it works similar to the P800 you can listen to music on it for hours without draining the battery. Bottom line, it replaces your mp3 player as well as your PDA.
      • Obviously you've never actually used such a facility. I have a clip-on MP3 player for my T68i. A 128Mb memory card is more than suffucient to supply enough music for an hour in the gym and only reduces the battery life by a couple of days out of ten.
      • I have around 3 hours (two full albums) on my P800, in Ogg Vorbis format (in addition to a dozen books & a large range of useful and less-useful apps). All fits nicely on a 128MB Memory Stick Duo, and sounds just fine through the supplied stereo headset.

        I listen to music through it every day. When my kids broke my laptop's line-out jack, I used my P800 for music instead. It's better than your average MP3 player because it supports other formats (such as the above mentioned Ogg Vorbis), and it's always

  • Comment removed (Score:4, Funny)

    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Tuesday October 21, 2003 @10:45AM (#7270566)
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  • how long can the battery last? i have my cell phone running pretty dark and quiet, and it still drains power like mad.

    if one was to use this as advertised, what could we expect in terms of battery life before having to recharge it?

    • 4 days (Score:5, Funny)

      by RMH101 ( 636144 ) on Tuesday October 21, 2003 @10:53AM (#7270673)
      if it's anything like the P800. and it *is* like the P800.
      when you first get it, you'll get a day's life, then when the novelty of all the toys wear off and you're just using it for the odd call, reading slashdot whilst on the motorway, and then taking pictures of the ensuing pileup and mailing them to "America's Dumbest Road Users" you'll get more like 4-5 days worth.
    • Advertised as up to 16 hours talktime and 20 hours standy which is a LOT. It also takes the Sony Memory Stick Duo which is scarce but easy to use.

      Closest thing I've seen to the perfect phone/PDA/games machine/MP3 player yet. Looks like it has a much better screen than the N-Gage too.

  • Palm is dead in the water (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward

    with devices that look this good with that amount of functionality to boot, iam sure there are some worried faces in Palm computing

  • services in the u.s. (Score:3, Interesting)

    by simpl3x ( 238301 ) on Tuesday October 21, 2003 @10:47AM (#7270598)
    does anybody use the p800 with services in the us? i assume these would be t-mobile and att&t. the p900 is supposed to be available here in january, but i have never seen anybody with a p800.

    i imagine that the linux version would be a requirement for the chinese market, since thay have a chinese specific version--p908. apple needs to get itunes (lite where required) everwhere, including linux and devices. beat sony to the punch with their mobile initiatives.

    more memory would have been nice!
    • Yeah, I've got a p800 with T-Mobile service, but it's not locked, so any GSM provider will work. T-Mobile was the cheapest that had coverage out here. I sync it with Evolution using Multisync (multisync.sourceforge.net)

    • Re:services in the u.s. (Score:5, Informative)

      by 4iedBandit ( 133211 ) on Tuesday October 21, 2003 @11:02AM (#7270783) Homepage
      I have a P800 with T-mobile in the US. They don't officially support the phone, but then again I don't care. I just want the service. The phone is GSM/GPRS, so all T-Mobile does is activate the service. I took the SIM card out of the free phone they gave me, plopped it into the P800 and it works like a charm.

      I've been impressed with T-Mobile's coverage, compared to Nextel which was my previous provider.

      It sync's to my work laptop and lotus notes, and also to my home Mac's without a problem. Bluetooth is fantastic too. I have a wireless headset that alone is worth the price of the phone. I love doing conference calls with both hands free.

      Battery life is phenominal. Sony rates it as 13 hour of TALK time. I've used it heavily and only gotten it down to half a charge with a full day's use. My Nextel phone would give up the ghost after just one, two hour conference call.

      The P900 looks nice and some nifty features, but I'm not going to buy it for mostly cosmetic features like theme support. Although if anything happens to my P800, I'd buy a P900 without a second thought.

  • Ugly (Score:1)

    by niola ( 74324 )
    Why is it that the cooler the feature set the uglier they have to make the unit? This thing looks like a brick :(
    • Designwise it reminds me of the older Kyocera SmartPhone. Large screen, flip down keypad, attractive brick shape.

      I have a Sony EricssonT68i on AT&T and my wife has a Sony Ericcson T316 with Cingular. This will probably be my next phone if Cingular supports it.
    • I think it looks nicer than the P800, which had a severe case of iMac case styling disease. It's still a bit on the chunky side though.

  • Best hybrid device yet? (Score:4, Informative)

    by Dynamoo ( 527749 ) on Tuesday October 21, 2003 @11:10AM (#7270870) Homepage
    Is this the best hybrid device yet? To quote from elsewhere [shopforphones.co.uk]..

    The large screen and powerful processor on the Sony Ericsson P900 make it a great games platform too. The screen has 80% more pixels than the Nokia N-Gage offering better gameplay.

    It's quite a large phone overall, but the Sony Ericsson P900 does have excellent battery life, with a maximum of 16 hours talk time and 20 days standby. The large screen on the P900 makes it ideal for organising data, appointments and contacts. The Sony Ericsson P900's PDA functions run on the Symbian OS, to give maximum performance from a mobile device.

    Plus it plays MP3s, and with 128Mb memory sticks that should squeeze two full CDs into the P900.

    I guess it's pretty good for a Symbian PDA/phone. However, the real competition might come from devices like the Voq Professional [voq.com] which has the backing of Micro$oft (and a clever keypad to boot).

    All we need now is a decent megapixel digital camera rather than the rather lame 640x480 one in the P900.

    • Honestly, I'm quite confused by their steadfast attachment to 640x480 camera phones. On my recent trip to Japan, I noted at least one PDA-Phone that had a 1.3 MPixel camera attached. Perhaps European/American/Chinese users are considered less demanding camera-phone users than the Japanese? How much more would a 1.3 have cost SE to include versus the puny 640x480?
      • TBH that's a showstopper for me. The camera on the P800 just plain sucks (it's *much* worse than the Nokia I had before that) - I was expecting at least a 1.3MPixel camera.
      • Probably it would cost quite a bit more with quality camera (not only the resolution but optics and all, flash probably should be there as well). And it already costs so damn much I'm surprised anyone is buying these.

        And they're designed to be puny, for sending those stupid picture messages etc, it's not like cameraphones are supposed to compete with digital cameras.
    • i do agree that ms smart phone is going to give symbian a run for the money, but not with that phone. as the mobiles begin to become limited computers with office-like applications and docking capabilities (larger screen and a mouse for home or school), ms might have a distinct advantage. i wish psion still had a symbian netbook. i single platform would really aid in development across different devices, and symbian is not helping.
    • Its camera is not still 640x480.
      Sony Ericsson can do better in this dept.

      When most people get camera phones, their picture taking interest drops exponentially after the first 1-2 weeks. If the camera resolution is higher(1 megapixel), like the 505i, FOMA terminals that NTTDocomo offers (nttdocomo.com), then it might make the camera offering worthwhile.

      Other than that, I'd say its a decent phone.
    • Frankly, there's not much point having a higher resolution - if the P900's camera is similar to my P800's, then it's limited by more than just the resolution of the sensor. The lens is tiny (and crappy), and the sensor is slow.

      The pictures are grainy and blurry round the edges, and the subject should be very well lit to have any hope of looking clear (no flash, of course). Once they put a quality lens in there, a quality sensor might be more useful.

      And I'm told that even so, the P800's pictures are as g

  • Pricepoint (Score:4, Interesting)

    by W33dz ( 643133 ) * on Tuesday October 21, 2003 @11:10AM (#7270878)
    Ok...it is way cool.
    But how much is the damn thing going to cost me?

  • Yikes.. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by thatguywhoiam ( 524290 ) on Tuesday October 21, 2003 @11:13AM (#7270904)
    Anyone else starting to get nervous about carting around all this expensive stuff?

    On the subway the other day I did a little monetary tally of what I carry around usually.. it adds up quick! Just between my iPod and my phone its almost $1k. I find I have to be extra-careful whenever putting my phone in my pocket, as just dropping the bloody thing would require a 2nd mortgage...

    If I add anymore expensive devices, I'm not gonna need a fancy case for the phone, I'm gonna need a fancy case for me. [adage.com]

    • Re:Yikes.. (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Jarnis ( 266190 )
      You americans are slow - in Finland operators are already offering special insurance policies that cover your mega-expensive cellphones against just about everything (including theft, accidental fall off a great height to a concrete surface.. ya name it), with special service to ensure that you get a new phone quickly. Sure, it costs money, but what doesn't?

      Anyway, people have also figured out that any good home insurance should cover these things already - check the small print on your policy...
      • You americans are slow - in Finland operators are already offering special insurance policies...

        You Finns are slow.. I'm a Canadian with Home Insurance. :)

        • As I noted, these are _special_ policies which are designed to be as hassle-free as possible. Let's see;

          Mobile phone stolen
          - With 'special' insurance, you walk to the closest customer service location, give your details and watch the rep dig out your insurance details + IMEI of your phone to get it blocked, file a notice about the theft (which is usually FAXed on the spot to the police so there is an official report filed in case the phone later turns up), and then get a new phone + new SIM card.

          - With ho
    • Agreed... When I add in the cost of my cellphone/pda ($400) with the cost of my SIG 223 9mm auto with hollowpoints and pre-ban 13+1 clip ($750) I shudder at the thought of getting mugged.
      • Agreed... When I add in the cost of my cellphone/pda ($400) with the cost of my SIG 223 9mm auto with hollowpoints and pre-ban 13+1 clip ($750) I shudder at the thought of getting mugged.

        Who said anything about getting mugged? I'm worried about just dropping the damn thing(s).

      • Is there some way to exploit the nexus between strict DMCA controls and lax gun laws in America to integrate an MP3 player into a gun without violating the RIAA's rights?

  • To me 'released' means... (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward
    I can buy it.

    'Coming Soon' means I can not buy it.

    Thank you.
    • If I could mod you up I would. It is very difficult to buy an 800 in the U.S.A. Let alone this model.

      My question for the U.S. people is
      "Will this work with anyone but T-mobile?"

      I hate T-mobile and would never use them again.

  • Anyone more knowledgable than I care to compare and contrast this thing and the Treo 600? I know the Treo will have teeming hordes of PalmOS s/w available. Any other important distinctions?
  • This phone does look great. But since it's not Palm compatible, I doubt it will take off.

    For me, at least, the availability of software, the integration with desktop apps (on Windows), and the ubiquity (and maybe therefore compatibility) of the Palm platform makes this phone much less attractive.

    Perhaps technical people can put this phone to great use through their own programming, integration, etc. But mainstream people just aren't going to do that.

    I don't mean this to be flamebait, but why would anyo
    • Symbian rules all over Palm. Give it a chance. Of course it doesn't have the installed user base or applications yet. Arguments like yours are what keeps Microsoft in business.
  • Once number portability kicks in, skanky old Sprint has lost a customer, and T-Mobile or ATT (whoever has the best GSM/GPRS coverage in the states) has gained one. Ahhh, competition!
  • yes thats right a P800. Now being a geek I've got to go an upgrade for no good reason

    Rus
  • Hmmm...
    "Warning, your browser does not seem to support javascript! Javascript must be enabled to view this site."
    Why? Why, why, why??
    Just to look?
  • I can't find anywhere on that first link, the Sony site, that actually mentions whether it's a phone or not - the only clue is a link that says "Try the phone".

  • SSH? (Score:2, Interesting)

    by sleeeper ( 210375 ) *
    I am guessing you can pull up a virtual keyboard, and use an SSH client on this phone. Am I right? Details (i.e., SSH v.2, open source?).
    • Yup. You can use PuTTY. You'll have few limitations with the keyboard though, since [ESC], [CTRL] and all the [F] keys are not there. You can, of course use an alternative keyboard buy someone will have to code it for you. :) I use the one which comes with Ruskey (Russian support) - it's much more comfortable, but still lacks a bunch of staff. Simple command line staff works though. :)

  • it's time for me to upgrade from p800 to p900 (Score:4, Informative)

    by john_uy ( 187459 ) on Tuesday October 21, 2003 @12:06PM (#7271567)
    can't wait to get on the new phone.

    basically, it improves much of the miscomings from the p800 (as a p800 user myself and basing this on reviews.) one drawback would still be the memory stick duo (not sure if it is compatible with the pro.)

    but it is a great phone. it is a phone with pda functionalities and not the other way so it is easy to call with it (and it doesn't seem to be very awkward to call like a big pda.) with apps, there are now lots of apps available (both free and commercial) so it levels off with the regular pda.

    for those camera freaks, a 640x480 is fine. what do you expect, a 4 megapixel camera fit in a phone with full flash and removable lens? i just want to take a picture anytime and send it to someone like mms or bluetooth. having a very high resolution camera will eat up lots of storage space and will be very difficult to send it to other people (so the camera will no longer work well with mobility) (gprs is already slow in our country, so i don't expect sending someone 400kb image file to be very convenient.)

    one thing i like is the ability to play mp3 as alerts over the existing midi and wav combo (and the old formats.)

    i don't also need to carry a pda with me (though i did not own one ever because it is pointless to carry too much gadgets in your pocket!)

    the keypad also helps to allow you to do things on the go. unlike a pda, it will allow you to type if every you are in a car or something that is moving. as for me, i can send a text message without looking at the screen while crossing the street. time saving.

    my last note, it is very helpful to me. i heavily use the calendar, task list and jotter. so i almost never forget anything and keep my schedule organized and allows me to do whatever i still need to do at work (or at home.) bonus is the synchronization with outlook (where the secretary just creates the schedule and i synch the phone to get the updated schedule.) other people will also be able to check my availability. so it increases my productivity.

    recommendation, it is a good phone to invest to (unless maybe you already have a pda.) the money i invested in p800 already paid off for me in less than a year (through increased productivity.) i'll just give it to my sister.

  • sexist image (Score:5, Insightful)

    by akb ( 39826 ) on Tuesday October 21, 2003 @12:07PM (#7271575)
    I was amazed that they included this [my-symbian.com] image in the review. I realize that in technical circles it helps to pander to immature males but that seems to go quite a bit past the usual T and A.

    Am I so out of touch that with how sexist the mainstream media has become that that image is acceptable?
    • It's not sexist, that's just a screenshot of the
      phone detecting an incoming booty call.
      It's a VERY smart phone...
    • Am I so out of touch that with how sexist the mainstream media has become that that image is acceptable?

      Mainstream media? Since when is relatively unknown website (I've never even heard of my-symbian.com before) mainstream media?

  • Are Java Apps usable ? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by OMG ( 669971 ) on Tuesday October 21, 2003 @12:21PM (#7271759)
    It does support Java, great!
    But what does "support mean?

    Can I run a Java application (J2ME/MIDP ?) after one or two buttons pressed ? A lot of phones I saw with Java support force you to navigate through dozens of menus until you are able to start a Java application.

    Can the application run in the background? What happens if the application runs and the phone rings? If I use it for ICQ or such stuff, do I need to stop the application before beeing able to look at my address book?

    Thanks for any insights on these questions.
    • Java apps can be started & used just like C++ apps - just tap the icon (or select it with the jogdial & click, or press a shortcut button or whatever).

      If the phone rings, the phone app pops to the front, but the other apps are still there, running in the background. On the P800 at least, GPRS data connections are suspended and (other) sounds are muted, but the apps keep going and you can browse the address book or anything else.

  • Alloy, hallo (Score:3, Informative)

    by G3ckoG33k ( 647276 ) on Tuesday October 21, 2003 @12:59PM (#7272225)
    The article states: "Although its casing is still made of plastic, it looks like if it was made of aluminium or similiar alloy."

    Duh? Since when did aluminum (or aluminium) become an alloy? Bronze, steel, or brass are alloys, but aluminum never was. Yes, aluminum is mostly used in aluminum alloys, but, still...

    Hey, this is /., isn't it? ;)
  • Well, you can - but you'll find it extremely difficult to persuade an air hostess that "flight mode" means that the phone part isn't on.

    I've seen someone argue the toss with an air hostess about it. Eventually he agreed to turn it off and keep it off through-out the entire flight when she requested security come and eject him from the aeroplane.

    (No it wasn't airborne before you ask ...)

  • I think I like the Nokia 3650 better. Smaller lower res screen but its cell phone size. This thing looks like its bigger then my PDA.

    • Re:Bleh, too big. (Score:2, Interesting)

      by TonkaTown ( 186808 )
      If you're concerned about phone size then the new generation of Symbian phones are a fair bit smaller than the Nokia 3650. [nokia.com]

      I wrote about smartphone sizes on Mobitopia the other day [mobitopia.com] with a table of sizes here. [mobitopia.com]

      The P900 is slightly smaller than the "elderly" P800, the real surprise is the new Sendo X [mobitopia.com] which is only marginally bigger than a Sony Ericsson T610 and packs far more capabilities.
  • For all of us (myself included) who are seriously planning on getting this phone, can any current owners of the P800 sound off on who has the best plans and/or supports the most features of which service, etc?

    SealBeater
    • Depends on where you are. I use T-Mobile in New York City with my P800 and it is flawless--lots of talk time and data allowance for about 100 bucks a month. There are plenty of less expensive plans that would work with this phone.
  • What are some good sites to check out to get an idea of what kind of software is available for this phone?

    SealBeater

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