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Ghost In The Shell 2: Innocence 344

timbloid writes "I spotted on Ain't it cool news that Mamoru Oshii's new anime Innocence Ghost In The Shell 2's website is now open! The trailer is beautiful! But I can't help thinking a translated version is some time off from the 2004 Japanese release... Maybe it would be faster for me to learn Japanese?"
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Ghost In The Shell 2: Innocence

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  • GITS:Innocence (Score:3, Informative)

    by darkstar949 ( 697933 ) on Tuesday November 04, 2003 @02:14PM (#7388204)
    Looks good, very eye-candy like the first GITS, however, will it have the content to go with the eye-candy? The first movie (IMHO) had the problem of being very good looking, however, the story was a bit of a let down. Also, the story in the movie didn't follow the manga correctly, with many parts not happening in the manga. However, I can understand how there would be problems converting from a manga to a OVA or movie.

    Also, I would say that the US will not be seeing the movie until sometime in 2005. I personaly am looking forward to GITS:Stand Allow Complex, both the series and the manga.

  • Not that far off? (Score:3, Informative)

    by ChrisTower ( 122297 ) on Tuesday November 04, 2003 @02:17PM (#7388230) Homepage
    But I can't help thinking a translated version is some time off from the 2004 Japanese release...

    The original GitS had a simultaneous theatrical release in Japan, the US and the UK. So, you might not have to wait that long after all. Oh, and I'm sure the fansubbers will be all over it as fast as possible. I saw a TeleSync of the Cowboy Bebop movie two weeks after its Japanese premier.
  • Learning Japanese (Score:2, Informative)

    by Kokeshi Harinezumi ( 713397 ) on Tuesday November 04, 2003 @02:21PM (#7388270)
    You can learn Japanese in about a year, if you are living in the country. If you're not American, look into the Working Holiday Visa option. There are also some excellent exchange programs with generous scholarships to students.
  • by darkmayo ( 251580 ) on Tuesday November 04, 2003 @02:21PM (#7388276)
    If you want more of the GITS i suggest checking out this anime series. It takes place in a different timeline where Mokoto Kusangi never encountered the Puppet Master.

    It has been fansubbed by a few groups and I believe it is licensed for US release as well.

  • Re:GITS:Innocence (Score:4, Informative)

    by Pope ( 17780 ) on Tuesday November 04, 2003 @02:23PM (#7388295)

    Then GITS:Stand Alone Complex is the one for you! 26 episodes in the current run, and was renewed for another 26. Fansubs currently only exist up to 22 because the title was licensed for translation and distribution recently. No idea what the timeline is for release, though.

    Episde Guide [destroy-all-monsters.com]

  • by Vadim Grinshpun ( 31 ) on Tuesday November 04, 2003 @02:37PM (#7388456) Homepage
    I was very surprised at what I heard when I opened the trailer--the song that goes through the whole thing is set to the melody of Joaquin Rodrigo's 'Concierto del Aranguez', one of the very few classical concertos for guitar. Interesting to hear the piece arranged for voice and hand drums :)

  • by AIX-Hood ( 682681 ) on Tuesday November 04, 2003 @02:37PM (#7388468)
  • Wait for fansub (Score:3, Informative)

    by klui ( 457783 ) on Tuesday November 04, 2003 @02:39PM (#7388491)
    Fansubs will come out in less than a month. You can then read your way through, along with the subs of the songs.
  • Re:A Sequel? (Score:2, Informative)

    by darkstar949 ( 697933 ) on Tuesday November 04, 2003 @02:50PM (#7388613)
    The orginal GITS manga was written with the same type of ending, the author orginaly intended for another manga to be out soon telling the rest of the story, but delays kept it from happening.
  • by Shinzaburo ( 416221 ) on Tuesday November 04, 2003 @02:57PM (#7388685) Homepage
    It only seems appropriate to provide a link to the limited edition Ghost in the Shell Mouse [shinza.com], just in case anime fans haven't heard of it. This mouse was designed by Masamune Shiro and is really quite a sight to behold. I love the ergonomics, light weight, and 800 count resolution, but I'm probably biased. ;)
  • by Chibi ( 232518 ) on Tuesday November 04, 2003 @03:05PM (#7388762) Journal

    http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/3341.html [icv2.com]


    Dreamworks To Distribute Ghost In The Shell II
    In Spring Of 2004


    August 14, 2003
    Screen Daily reports that Dreamworks SKG has formed a specialty distribution arm, Go Fish, which will distribute its first film, Satoshi Kon's Millenium Actress, on September 12 in New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, and San Francisco. Dreamworks set up Go Fish just after Warner Bros. announced the launch of Warner Independent Pictures, which will release films from independents and small production companies. While Go Fish will undoubtedly release its share of indie films, the second film announced by Dreamworks was Ghost In The Shell II: Innocence, the follow-up to the extremely successful science fiction anime feature, Ghost In The Shell, which was directed by Mamoru Oshii and based on the manga series by Masamune Shirow (published in the U.S by Dark Horse). It should be interesting to see if Dreamworks primarily uses Go Fish to compete with Warners for indie films or to gain a beachhead for anime feature films in the rough and tumble arena of theatrical exhibition.

    Ghost in the Shell II is in the final stages of production in Japan, and Go Fish plans to release the feature film late in the first half of 2004. Back in 1996 the original Ghost In the Shell film made a major impact in the U.S. and launched a plethora of successful tie-in products including posters, statues, art books, manga, and action figures. With a Ghost in the Shell TV series (see "Bandai Gets Ghost In the Shell TV Series") set to debut in the U.S. and the merchandising potential of a second Ghost In The Shell movie (see "New Ghost In The Shell Movie"), this property is poised to take off once again.

  • by dsnowak ( 694482 ) on Tuesday November 04, 2003 @03:06PM (#7388774)
    Dreamworks has already licensed the film, and will release it under their Go Fish label next spring, practically simultaneous with the Japanse premier. So quit bellyaching about a long wait.

    In addition, the aforementioned TV series, GitS:Stand Alone Complex, has also been licensed by Bandai Entertainment USA, which actually helped finance it. It should see domestic DVD next year, probably about the same time as the movie is released to theatres.
  • by Godeke ( 32895 ) * on Tuesday November 04, 2003 @04:17PM (#7389563)
    Anime allows storytellers to explore sci-fi and fantasy genres without the budget breaking special effects, so they are common to see those genres expressed. But that isn't all that is done in the anime tradition. At the other end of the scale you can find sitcoms and love stories. Studio Ghibli is another great entry point into the style:

    http://www.nausicaa.net/miyazaki/films/

    Just about anything here is good, but Kiki's Delivery Service and Spirited Away are two of my favorites. Kiki's has fantasy only insomuch as Kiki is a witch, but the storyline (something which American entertainment has forgotten about) is one of coming to terms with oneself.

    Grave of the Fireflies is one of the most heart wrenching stories ever told in any style.

    As for the overweight white guys: they are called otaku (fanboy) and are a part, but not the whole, of those who love the style. I'm in my mid thirties, married with a son, own my own company, am part owner of another and rock climb so I don't *get* fat. Not all those who watch anime are otaku.

    To finally answer your question: animation allows for stories that would be difficult to tell in another way without breaking a budget. It also allows for artistic expression and styles that can't be captured with a camera. If American animators were blinded by the "for children only" mindset, amazing stories could be told here as well.

    The Simpsons and the other "adult" cartooning have raised the bar a hair, but it only raises it to "sitcom" from "child humor". I would love to see an home grown cartoon that explored storylines written as well as those in good anime. (And no, Heavy Metal's psuedo porn doesn't count).
  • by OmnipotentEntity ( 702752 ) on Tuesday November 04, 2003 @05:03PM (#7390036) Homepage
    When someone can translate it for you.

    (cyborg)
    Batou is a living doll.

    His arms, his legs, everything in his body was made.
    all that is left is a little brain and, the memory of a woman.

    A lonely soul's promiscuity.

    Directed by Oshii Mori. (I think... not too good with names yet.)

    Innocence
    This is life.

    Spring 2004

    (Yes, I am a karma whore)

    ___________

  • Re:Learning Japanese (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 04, 2003 @05:15PM (#7390157)
    Nah, the sentence structure is a piece of cake. But then I'm a programmer, so I have weird perspective.

    What'll really kill you is all the verb and adjective conjugations.
    yomu (to read) -> yomihajimemashita (began reading)
    iku (to go) -> ikanakereba narimasen (must go)
  • by OmnipotentEntity ( 702752 ) on Tuesday November 04, 2003 @05:16PM (#7390172) Homepage
    Oshii Mamoru. (D'oh)
  • STAND ALONE COMPLEX (Score:2, Informative)

    by darekana ( 205478 ) on Tuesday November 04, 2003 @07:48PM (#7391339) Homepage
    "STAND ALONE COMPLEX [bandaivisual.co.jp]" is pretty good too. Its a 26 episode TV series done in the Ghost universe, by Production IG [production-ig.co.jp].

    It gets better as it goes along. Not as hardcore as the movie or comic though.

    If you want to study Japanese, check out this site:
  • by chendo ( 678767 ) on Wednesday November 05, 2003 @02:48AM (#7394061)
    They've extended it to 52 episodes [animenfo.com] now.

    Check out animenfo.com [animenfo.com] for all your anime/manga info needs, and MangaNews [manganews.net] for the latest scanslation releases (think scanslation slashdot.)

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