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Star Trek TOS DVD Box Sets Forthcoming 304

bluethundr writes "According to Trek Today: the diabolical Trek 'powers that be' have come up with yet another way to separate the hapless trekkie from his hard earned cash. The Original Series is being re-released as a Box Set. Reportedly, the sets should feature enough extras to make (they hope) the die-hard pony-up against their better judgement. They have an image of the box set on the R2 Project. One interesting aspect of this release is that the Region 2 release will package all original season eps in order of original air-date! One also has to wonder why in the world they are still refusing to offer the The Animated Series on DVD, forcing one to buy the bootlegs if you want to get your hands on a copy. VHS only, as far as official release goes. TAS featured most of the original cast, many of the original writers. What's more, is that one episode was penned by another author you may have heard of in which he mingled concepts of his own distinct mythology with that of trek-lore." Update: 05/06 14:54 GMT by S : Phrase by original submitter removed - apologies, I was completely unaware of etymology.
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Star Trek TOS DVD Box Sets Forthcoming

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  • by JosKarith ( 757063 ) on Thursday May 06, 2004 @06:43AM (#9071836)
    I love it - it's great for using to confunse and annoy supposedly "hardcore" trekkies who get all their info out of magazines.
    And no, I'm not a trekkie, I'm just an animation fan who shared a house with one a few years back.
  • Regions... (Score:1, Interesting)

    by pubjames ( 468013 ) on Thursday May 06, 2004 @06:44AM (#9071844)

    I hate frickin' DVD "regions".

    Several times I've wanted to rent an imported video from my local rental shop and I haven't been able to rent it because it won't play on my DVD.

    Deliberately making a product that some people can't use! What the hell is that about!??
  • Parallell (sp?) (Score:5, Interesting)

    by ArbiterOne ( 715233 ) on Thursday May 06, 2004 @06:45AM (#9071847) Homepage
    The boxed sets of LOTR are probably making tons of money... perhaps that's why these people decided to recapitalize on a decades-old series.
    Not that it's bad or anything!
    Wait until this (and LOTR) goes gold, platinum, super-platinum collector's edition with Enterprise scale model, etc.
    Then they release The Hobbit/TAS, and the cycle begins again.
  • by revolvement ( 742502 ) on Thursday May 06, 2004 @06:47AM (#9071850)
    ...But I do not remember an Animated Trek series at all. Could someone explain more about it?
  • Re:Regions... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Nasarius ( 593729 ) on Thursday May 06, 2004 @06:53AM (#9071870)
    I've had absolutely no trouble playing Region 2/PAL DVDs on my American TV. Perhaps some televisions cannot display PAL properly...
  • Why just a laptop? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by benzapp ( 464105 ) on Thursday May 06, 2004 @06:55AM (#9071876)
    I simply don't see how a laptop would be unable to play such a DVD but a desktop would not..
  • Re:Solly Cholly??? (Score:2, Interesting)

    by skermit ( 451840 ) on Thursday May 06, 2004 @07:08AM (#9071916) Homepage
    I'm waiting for this to be modded down and trampled under the other posts, but you have to admit, if they put "Uhh yessa massa!" It'd be a different story.
  • Re:Parallell (sp?) (Score:3, Interesting)

    by AliasTheRoot ( 171859 ) on Thursday May 06, 2004 @07:25AM (#9071982)
    In my local music/video/dvd emporium the collectors editions with the free granite statue of gollum and the special edition of two towers cost less than the special edition of two towers.

    why? because the store is sick of carrying a bunch of stock that takes up half of their storeroom and noone buys. I did buy the collectors edition the other day, took the dvd out and threw the rest of the packaging in the bin.
  • by ch-chuck ( 9622 ) on Thursday May 06, 2004 @07:33AM (#9072001) Homepage
    Don't forget the prime directive of show business: "Always leave them wanting more".

    IOW, you never give away everything, always hold something back for later.

  • It's about time (Score:2, Interesting)

    by thpdg ( 519053 ) on Thursday May 06, 2004 @08:00AM (#9072078) Journal
    Finally, an affordable release of TOS. The original release was paired episodes on DVD for about $30. That is a very high price point. Coming from a monthly by-mail subscription, it was a good deal, but these box sets should bring it down even further.
    I have the $700 tied up in the TNG sets ($100 * 7 years) and I never regret it. It's a complete collection, that no one can ever take away. Paired up with the "Companion" CD containing all of the TV commercial spots, it is the complete TNG series.
  • Re:Regions... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Chalybeous ( 728116 ) <chalybeous@@@yahoo...co...uk> on Thursday May 06, 2004 @08:04AM (#9072094) Homepage Journal
    Interestingly, I understand that an increasing number of DVDs of older shows are being released in a "region zero" (region-free) format.
    My understanding of the rationale behind this is to cut the production costs on something which will sell, but not sell enough in some areas to make region coding worthwhile. When they're around 20 or so years old, there's not much to lose to piracy.
    On the other hand, stopping the region-coding of movies might be bad for the cinema industry. Why? Well, take the movie Galaxy Quest. The UK theatrical release date was the same as the US DVD release date. Given the prevalence of international sales via, say, eBay and Amazon, I can imagine people being tempted to buy a DVD and sell it if they don't like it, or buy a secondhand one.

    That said, IMHO movies like LotR wouldn't be hurt due to simultaneous releases, unless they take more than a year to get out to the most remote cinemas in some parts of the world.

    So, the long and short? My 2c is that region encoding is good for the industry in some cases (and also means they don't have to squeeze every language soundtrack or subtitle onto the same disc), but is also detrimental to the industry - if, for example, ST:TOS had been released in region-free format originally, Paramount would have easily at least doubled, if not tripled, their sales. (I don't intend to buy it now. The profile says recovering ex-Trekkie, and not only do I not want to waste the money on that stuff, but that packaging is hideous.)
  • Re:Solly Cholly??? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Midnight Thunder ( 17205 ) on Thursday May 06, 2004 @09:09AM (#9072433) Homepage Journal
    What kind of racist crap is this? It shouldn't be in a /. article, for one thing. Bad taste. VERY BAD TASTE

    Most people probably didn't comment on this either because they only skimmed over the text of the posting, because they had no idea that it had any racial conotation, or were unphased. I am in he first two groups (didn't fully read the text and didn't know the expression). I had no idea what the expression is about and I have never heard it until now. I take it that is purely USA slang?
  • by YOU LIKEWISE FAIL IT ( 651184 ) on Thursday May 06, 2004 @09:13AM (#9072464) Homepage Journal

    I attended a short talk by George Takei ( Mr Sulu ) a few weeks ago at the Supanova popular culture festival in Sydney, Australia while I was waiting for David Carradines Q&A, and he was a very funny and personable speaker, this from someone who doesn't really know Star Trek from a bar of soap... Some discussion of his feelings on the Animated Series came up.

    He seemed to consider it something of a damp squib: despite being freed of the constraints of period special effects, the writers never let themselves go and explored the possibilities on offer - he said he would have particularly liked to see some non humanoid aliens, or some more inspired Zero-G work. And while I agree with his point, I don't think I've really seen much animation work at all that manages to dramatically explore the potential of the medium like that.

    Also, apparently it wasn't as much fun to work with as the original series because all the voice talent recorded their lines separately to each other, in their own booths, and often not even at the same time. How an actor is supposed to build up any sense of timing or interrelation in a scenario like that I can't even begin to guess.

  • by Zed2K ( 313037 ) on Thursday May 06, 2004 @10:55AM (#9073404)
    The star trek box sets are SO overpriced its not even funny anymore. Look at other popular tv box sets for comparisons and they are much cheaper. CSI $60, Friends $55 for season 1, $35 for other seasons, Angel $45, Buffy $45, West Wing $45. But DS9 $97, TNG $97-$111. For the same number of episodes as other tv shows.

    I would love to get all the TNG and DS9 box sets but not at $100 or higher a box. Paramount is gouging star trek fans because they know they can get away with it. Its a big slap in the face to star trek fans but they are to stupid to realize it.
  • Re:Regions... (Score:2, Interesting)

    by dcm1101 ( 71726 ) on Thursday May 06, 2004 @12:23PM (#9074548)
    No, region coding is the problem. PAL/NTSC/SECAM are all ANALOG video standards which mainly have to do with chrominance encoding, number of lines and frame rate. Once the analog to digital conversion occurs, the chroma encoding difference goes away, since MPEG-2 is MPEG-2. This means that the only differences between a PAL and NTSC DVD are: the number of active lines (480 vs 576) and the frame rate (29.97 vs. 25) - the line difference is handled automatically in the decoding process by most DACs - they output whatever your display can accept - while the frame rate difference results, at worst, in a little skip every so often. And for a practical demonstration of the above theory, ask anyone who's taken an off-the-shelf DVD player with hackable firmware (though lord knows I'm not advocating any such thing. That would be illegal) and upgraded to a R0 player. IT WORKS FINE. I suspect most hardware manufacturers use an MPEG-2 implementation that supports multi-format playback in the secret hope that one day region coding will go away.
  • Re:Solly Cholly??? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by fucksl4shd0t ( 630000 ) on Friday May 07, 2004 @04:36AM (#9081859) Homepage Journal

    but that all kinds of other European ethnic stereotypes are considered acceptable but ANY ethnic stereotype of non-Europeans is considered taboo,

    You know, I think that has something to do with a number of things. First, Europeans, throughout all history, have all managed to take a turn at being both the oppressor and the oppressee. As a result, they're generally more light-hearted about this sort of thing, because they know it doesn't really mean jack. I mean, take a walk through a Jules Verne book one of these days. Even the French aren't perfect for him, and he pretty much romps on every nationality.

    But these other guys, Mexico being an exception (and Messcans are also generally of the European approach, I've never known a Messcan that took offense at being called a spic or a landscaper) haven't yet taken a turn as oppressor that they're willing to admit. Call yourself African American? Great, if you want to adopt African history as your own. Except that African history is generally much more brutal than European and/or American history.

    But all this is part and parcel of the idea that racism is something exclusive to whites.

    Man oh man. Just the idea that racism is exclusive to whites is racist. Sinfest has a thread going right now about the old "why can't I call black people nigga, they call each other that?" question. When I was down in Texas, I saw racism going back and forth all the time, black people hating white people and white people hating black people. Hell, the only people in Texas that don't seem to hate anybody are the no-green-card-carrying messcans that get sent back over the river when INS knocks on their door.

    Racism is stupid, agreed. But this politically correct way of approaching the problem is doing more to prolong it than fight it. Of course, if I were a minority member (and everytime someone calls themself a Latino I call them countryman and point out that Latin comes from Rome, and being of Italian descent that makes me Latino. NObody likes that explanation, of course) I would do everything I could to try to prolong the problem, because in the meantime I get all these nice benefits just by being in a minority. I get to tell everyone how to talk (so as not to offend my minority sensibilities). I get to tell everyone how to act, or the DOJ investigates. I get to whine about how I'm not being paid what I'm worth because I'm in a minority and know that I'll get a raise to "shut me up".

    Blah. If people really wanted to solve this problem, they would. Nobody really wants it solved. The racists want to keep hating, and the poor victims want to keep being victims for the preferential treatment it gets. The rest of us will eventually out-evolve them all, but it'll take some time before the problem finally goes away.

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