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Caffeinated Beer Becomes a Reality 657

Cylar writes "CNN is reporting that Anheuser-Bush has developed a sweet, caffeinated beer they are dubbing B(E). Intended to compete with the trendy sweet concotions popular on the club scenes (such as Smirnoff Ice), it will contain caffeine, guarana, and ginseng." Not sure how I feel about ginseng in my brew, so I'll have to study this with a few cases.
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Caffeinated Beer Becomes a Reality

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  • New taste to acquire (Score:4, Interesting)

    by mirko ( 198274 ) on Tuesday October 05, 2004 @10:18AM (#10438951) Journal
    Coffee is an acquired taste, so is beer, I guess one will have to learn to enjoy this beverage...
  • Re:Whats next? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by MoonFog ( 586818 ) on Tuesday October 05, 2004 @10:22AM (#10439015)
    Well, here in Norway we've gotten milk with coffee taste (that's right, TASTE). It's horrible, and I really hope they stop mixing so many drinks. Alchohol in coffee is a rather good mix imo.
  • by lukewarmfusion ( 726141 ) on Tuesday October 05, 2004 @10:31AM (#10439151) Homepage Journal
    1. My college was yuppie school - and it was dominated by Natural Ice (Natty/Nasty Ice), Milwaukee's Best (the Beast), and other crappy cheap beers.

    2. I don't know a lot of girls that like beer. My wife can't stand the smell of most alcohol. She does kind of like these flavored beers/malted cocktails. On our honeymoon, I introduced her to iced tea a la Long Island.

    3. Most college kids don't really do the wine thing. Once you learn to like wine, it can become a very expensive taste. Personally, I limit myself to the finest wines under $15, but if I'm going for the buzz I'll settle for a $4 Inglenook. I'm sure this price range will change once I make my first trillion.

    4. I use Thunderbird. It beats the hell out of Outlook. :)
  • by VE3ECM ( 818278 ) on Tuesday October 05, 2004 @10:32AM (#10439163)
    Having just moved to the USA from Canada, I can tell you that many of those "sweet"-type alcoholic drinks are already malt based... not vodka, gin, etc based...

    Amazing what artificial flavors can accomplish.
    Although, yes, it's nice to see a big player pushing new product...

    Personally, I'll stick with my scotch.

  • Mill Street Brewery (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Columbo ( 111563 ) on Tuesday October 05, 2004 @10:37AM (#10439212)
    The Mill Street Brewery, a local Toronto brewery, makes a coffee beer that is actually surprisingly good. I've got a couple bottles left in my fridge at the moment. Check it out:

    Mill Street Brewery's Coffee Porter [millstreetbrewery.com]
  • by geigertube ( 265640 ) <geigertubeNO@SPAMyahoo.com> on Tuesday October 05, 2004 @10:39AM (#10439240) Homepage
    I got the impression that the Purity Law was started, at least in part, by Protestants who found the effects of the gruit herbs [homestead.com] that were used instead of hops to be less than desirable. Hops is a sedative,and squelches sexual desire, whereas many of the gruit herbs had an opposite effect.
  • B(E)? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Speare ( 84249 ) on Tuesday October 05, 2004 @10:40AM (#10439259) Homepage Journal

    B(E)? The geek in me reads that as "B of E" and then turns that phonetically into BFE, a vulgar initialism for "bum f* egypt," meaning the middle of nowhere.

    How do companies decide to call things by stupid unpronounceable names? Pentax *istD [google.com] Olympus m:robe [google.com]

    Then you have the stupid names which are just too close to derogatory names. I'm not talking about creative stretches of normal words like "Back Orifice" or "Internet Exploder." I'm talking about nonsense turned into the nearest possible normal words. Olympus eVolt [google.com] sounds revolting.

  • by RupW ( 515653 ) * on Tuesday October 05, 2004 @10:41AM (#10439277)
    Also, Dark Star Espresso Stout [darkstarbrewing.co.uk]:
    Specially blended and ground

    espresso coffee beans are
    added to the copper along with
    the late hops to produce this
    dark, rich stout.
    I had a half of this at CAMRA's 2004 beer festival [camra.org.uk] in London and it was pretty good. (But there were hundreds of beers to try.)
  • Re:Coffee Porter (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Chelloveck ( 14643 ) on Tuesday October 05, 2004 @10:43AM (#10439290)

    When I was brewing (haven't dusted off the ol' brewpot in years) my signature beer was Double Jeopardy Espresso Stout. All the alcohol, twice the caffeine!

    Start with an Oatmeal Stout recipe. Substitute a good dark roast coffee (medium grind) 1:1 for the oatmeal. Brew as normal. When adding the hops near then end of the boil, toss in a handful of No-Doz (or cheap generic substitute). I used about twenty 200mg tablets per 5-gallon batch. Ferment, bottle/keg, and drink. Cheers!

  • Red Bull Beer? (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Jakhel ( 808204 ) on Tuesday October 05, 2004 @10:43AM (#10439299)
    Intended to compete with the trendy sweet concotions popular on the club scenes (such as Smirnoff Ice), it will contain caffeine, guarana, and ginseng

    So it's red bull beer?

    On another note, will this create an entirely new type of addiction? Alcohol is already addictive, but caffeine has been proven to be addictive as well. This drink will effectively combine the addictive powers of 2 substances in one, creating a sort of uber addict. I mean, it's like combining slashdot and heroine.

  • by Upaut ( 670171 ) on Tuesday October 05, 2004 @10:45AM (#10439326) Homepage Journal
    Coffee flavored beers have been around for ages, so the concept of a caffeinated beer is hardly unique, but I can see a problem in the stability in this beer:
    1.) When I brew beer (a recent hoby of mine), ph is highly important in the brewing process. The higher the acidity in the beer, the more likely the beer is to spoil. Example: put a Rolling Rock, a Bud, and a Buzzard Bay Ale in a warm room. First to go is the Buzzard. Second the Bud, and finally the Rock. Buzzard has a high ph level, bud medium, rock low.
    Same with sweet beers (especially creamy stouts, where one adds lactose to the beer to make it "sweeter" since the yeast cannot ferment the lactose. But several types of bacteria can. Same problem exists with sweetened pasturized beers: minor contamination, the beer is gone.) Sweet beers, in my experiance, goes "skunk" a lot faster.

    So all and all, I believe that this beer would probably spoil before someone gets the nerve to try it.
    And for the asinine critics out there on my title for this post, I understand that this would most likly be a lager than stout, but poetic lisence counts for a lot...
  • by Handbrewer ( 817519 ) on Tuesday October 05, 2004 @10:46AM (#10439338) Homepage
    Beer might be an acquired taste. But please, do not brew a beer like this, id hate to see a new generation grow up thinking beer is like this. You can probably guess from my nick i appreciate a good, and often homebrewn, beer. It has taken me many years to taste my way through just a small portion of the beer spectrum, and its very enjoyable. But its not commercially viable to brew to so many tastes, so the big breweries just brew some variation of the Pilsner og light lager. Very booring, no wonder young people would rather have a Smirnoff Ice. But how about a good Brown Ale? Or IPA, or a well served Belgian Wit, like Hoegaarden? That beats anything, anyday, anytime :).

    Heres hopeing that the next generation still drinks beer!
  • by cayenne8 ( 626475 ) on Tuesday October 05, 2004 @10:55AM (#10439466) Homepage Journal
    Sounds like they've finally come up with a real "Buzz Beer"!!

    Guess some marketing exec was watching old re-runs of the Drew Carey show...hahaha. Wonder if Oswald and Lewis are now on the board of directors?

  • by NeoSkandranon ( 515696 ) on Tuesday October 05, 2004 @11:01AM (#10439555)
    The big brands make what people like to drink, simply.

    The majority of beer drinkers here in the states want something weak and tasteless that they can knock back ASAP and reach for another, thus accellerating their progression towards getting totally pissed (or at least pleasantly buzzed). Or at least this is what my friends and roommates have infromed me after asking how the hell they stand to drink the tan water that passes for beer here.

    Now granted, I can see the reasnong behind wanting a not-strong/overpowering beer perhaps with food...but my idea of that is Harp or Newcastle, not Bud piss -in-a-bottle Light

    (Disclaimer: I'm a college student)
    (Disclaimer 2: I drink imported, microbrew, or nothing)
  • Shot in the Dark? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by chihowa ( 366380 ) on Tuesday October 05, 2004 @11:56AM (#10440242)
    OK, even though I should be heading off to class now...

    I still recommend my concoction to any beer loving coffee affectionado. Two shots of good espresso in a pint of stout. After a night of those, you get that perfect wide awake drunk going. If, of course, you can't handle a whole night of these, just one or two is enough to keep you strong until the sun comes up.

    I thought the name was fitting because the night I decided to try it I was having a hard time deciding whether to make a cup of coffee or have a beer. It still sounds kind of stupid, though. Oh well.

  • by Creepy ( 93888 ) on Tuesday October 05, 2004 @12:21PM (#10440601) Journal
    There's more to it than that.

    US law prohibited small breweries before 1977. In 1977 that law was overturned (or repealed or something of that sort) and microbreweries and brewing in the home was permitted for the first time since pre-prohibition. That meant large breweries (the only ones allowed) had ~50 years to change US tastes to a cheap, bitter, rice-based wheat lager in a market they basically had a monopoly over (you had several choices from some core breweries, but they all were basically the same).

    Microbreweries didn't take off until the mid-to-late 1980s and the reputation was their beers were bad - and to American US mass brewery tastes, they were right.

    Most drinkers start in late high school or early college. Because those are generally lean times financially, the cheapest swill that does the job is chosen. That, of course, is usually the stuff put out by the largest breweries. Even after college, it's hard to turn down 2-for-1 taps for $1 when imports and microbrews go for $5 or more each at the same bar.

    Incidentally, and ironically in a way, the custom-brewed beers (in my case, Leinenkeugel's Red) put out by major breweries were my gateway to imports and other quality beers (though I did have a Pete's Wicked Ale long before that, but nobody, including me, liked it). I also no longer like wheat lagers at all... ok, I admit there's a German wheat lager I like (it's like drinking bread), but that's it.
  • Re:Buzz Beer (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Creepy ( 93888 ) on Tuesday October 05, 2004 @12:50PM (#10441086) Journal
    Guarana isn't an asian vegetable, though - it's a South American stimulant that is traditionally used to boost the sex drive.

    Ginseng, native to Asia and North America both is reputably also an aphrodesiac (and promote well being, yada, yada yada).
    I found a great quote here [altnature.com] -

    Don't take Ginseng and Ginseng mixtures with Coffee as it will accelerate the caffine effects on the body and can cause diarrhea.

    So basically, they want you to get drunk, buzzing, and horny all at once. I would recommend against this one for most geeks, but you probably would match up well with someone drinking it ;)
  • by flyingsquid ( 813711 ) on Tuesday October 05, 2004 @12:52PM (#10441117)
    To be fair, not all European beers are good. Heineken is like the Microsoft of beers: it's a lousy product, but it's ubiquitous because of great marketing.

    An interesting thing I've noticed in travels is that third world countries, no matter how screwed up everything else is, seem to be able to put out a national beer. I think the national brewery was about the only thing that actually worked well in Madagascar. Says something about humanity's priorities. If we were in some post-apocalyptic Mad Max kind of a future, you can bet the breweries would still be going. Not that this is a bad thing.

  • by object88 ( 568048 ) on Tuesday October 05, 2004 @03:01PM (#10442969)
    Oh sure, sounds like a good idea at first, but do you have any idea how hard it is to keep a beer lit?

    Perhaps you might care for a Nicotini [wordspy.com] instead?

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