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Babylon 5 Movie Starts Filming in April 397

An anonymous reader writes "According to comingsoon.net, the first theatrical Babylon 5 movie, "The Memory of the Shadows" starts filming in April. The story was written by series creator J. Michael Straczynski."
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Babylon 5 Movie Starts Filming in April

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  • excellent (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Libertarian001 ( 453712 ) on Thursday December 09, 2004 @02:03AM (#11039682)
    woot

    best...sci-fi...series...ever
  • by MagicDude ( 727944 ) on Thursday December 09, 2004 @02:11AM (#11039727)
    I'm not sure I'm going to want to see it when it comes out. Not because I don't like B5, but I don't get what's going on. I've tried several times to get into B5, but I keep finding myself not understanding what was going on. If I watch an episode in the middle of season 3, I don't get half the references to things that have happened already, so I don't understand what's being done in that episode. I have tried to watch it from the beginning when Sci-fi loops around and starts showing it from season 1 episode 1, but my schedule isn't such that I can set aside that same bit of time every day to watch it, so I invariably end up missing episodes. Being a poor student, I can't afford a TIVO, and I'm not going to buy a VCR just for this (and I'd probably forget to set it sooner or later anyway). Thus I'm continually left out of a series I really want to get into. So when this movie comes out, if I haven't seen B5 through, I don't know if I'd want to go to see this movie if I don't think I'd be able to get what they're talking about in the movie.
  • Catch Up (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Monkey ( 795756 ) on Thursday December 09, 2004 @02:12AM (#11039729)
    I was never into B5. It was cool and all, but the plots were so interwoven it never grabed me. (Maybe if I saw it from day one things would be diffrent) Aneway, will I need to do any serous catchup before this movie makes sence. BTW, the SCI-FI Icon is a guy from the original Star Trek. w00t! Sory, trekey moment has passed.
  • Re:Question ... (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Abel29A ( 598776 ) on Thursday December 09, 2004 @02:15AM (#11039748)
    Thats correct. Galen was the techno mage...

    Which lead me to fear this film will be more Crusader than Babylon5, and I for one did not really find the whole Crusader spinn-off that great.

    It became to much of a Star Trek clone.....(One ship travelling through space encountering weird aliens...)

    Wheres the fun in that? B5 was all about grand campaign and universe-spanning alliances.

    BTW. The First B5 movie is really great(The one dealing with Earth-Minbari War). The other two less so.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 09, 2004 @02:18AM (#11039760)
    I'm not a huge B5 fan, but a lot of people on Slashdot are. It matters to them. And looking at your posting record over the last little bit, I would say "let he who is without sin cast the first stone". Most of your posts seem to be stuff that matters VERY little.

  • Re:Question ... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by extra the woos ( 601736 ) on Thursday December 09, 2004 @02:24AM (#11039780)
    In the beginning and "A call to arms" were both great... The rest of the movies, less so, but still good compared to most trek movies (especially considering they were made for tv movies and only cost like a million each or something lol)...

    I hope he can pull off making this movie as badass as some of the best episodes in the series (severed dreams, into the fire, endgame, etc etc!!!)
  • by Macrat ( 638047 ) on Thursday December 09, 2004 @02:35AM (#11039833)
    You're the reason the networks have to dumb down programming.
  • by AmiNTT ( 539586 ) * on Thursday December 09, 2004 @03:09AM (#11039969) Homepage
    I have to agree. Star Trek was completely ruined for me by Babylon 5. The whole 5 year arc concept is amazing - stuff that you see in the first season, which you think was mildly interesting, suddenly three seasons later becomes really important!

    Each time a season would come out, I'd loose two days to watching the entire thing. The final episode (Sleeping in Light) gets me every single time I watch it.

    I strongly recommend B5 to anyone who likes Sci-fi. Start in season 1 and work your way forwards. It makes far more sense this way. Watch the movies (other than the pilot) AFTER you watch the series. Avoid the temptation of "In the Beginning". It is better that way, in my opinion.

  • by bl968 ( 190792 ) on Thursday December 09, 2004 @03:13AM (#11039991) Journal
    Any time you go into a movie with preconceptions and your own ideas and what is going to happen or what should happen you will be disappointed. It's like the person who goes into a movie and 15 minutes into it has guessed the ending and of course they don't enjoy the movie quite as much as someone who lets it happen in it's own pace without trying to look behind the scenes for the solution.

    Me personally I enjoyed the series and I have enjoyed the movies. I expect this one to be no exception.
  • by Hinhule ( 811436 ) on Thursday December 09, 2004 @03:46AM (#11040092)
    Joining her is Galen

    I like how galen means insane in swedish ;)
  • Re:Question ... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by lightknight ( 213164 ) on Thursday December 09, 2004 @03:55AM (#11040122) Homepage
    Bah, Legend of the Rangers sucks. Watched it completely, hated it. It was so...typically Star Trek-esque, I mean "explore new worlds, encounter new species, blah". That gets old.

    What you need is a stationary place for things to develop. DS9 was ok in this regard, but Babylon 5 was great. I mean, things developed. I want nothing more than to see an episode of Babylon where Lita (augmented telepath) returns, removes the mind block from Garibaldi, and watch as Garibaldi does something truly evil to Bester. I mean, at the end, you are just gagging for Bester to get it.

    That said, Garibaldi and Bester were hilarious. Franklin was great, his drama acting really shows. Sheridan and Delenn were great in there own way. But every time Bester showed up, you knew there was going to be some back and forth.

    Third Space (Babylon 5 movie) is where they come across a piece of Vorlon technology, which seems to open greater gateways than that of hyperspace. You find out that it does open to another dimension, but there's something evil waiting on the other end.
  • by lunatik17 ( 91135 ) on Thursday December 09, 2004 @04:02AM (#11040147) Homepage
    Unfortunately, both B5 and Farscape suffer from the same problem: they start out bad but turn awesome later (In B5's case, REALLY bad). Firefly is great from beginning to regrettably short end, but they perhaps overdo the western theme a little and it puts some people off.
  • by Max von H. ( 19283 ) on Thursday December 09, 2004 @05:09AM (#11040329)
    I love the feeling when in (say) series 4 they reference something that happened way back in series 1. Totally mind blowing: "No way ... that was planned that three years ahead!"

    All five seasons of B5 were written before the shooting of the pilot episode. It allowed much deeper storylines and made B5 the most consistent sf serie ever, for it wasn't written to please advertisers or even modified to influence ratings. There lies the secret of a good series.
  • by Ziviyr ( 95582 ) on Thursday December 09, 2004 @06:43AM (#11040599) Homepage
    Please buy the DVDs in support of decent television programming.
  • All 5 Seasons (Score:3, Insightful)

    by thegameiam ( 671961 ) <thegameiam@noSPam.yahoo.com> on Thursday December 09, 2004 @07:54AM (#11040822) Homepage
    >>All five seasons of B5 were written before the shooting of the pilot episode.

    Not quite - what there was was a consistent, single story arc which had FAR more detail than a typical series. The episodes were written on a season-by-season basis. JMS wrote the entirety of season 3 himself, but had help for some of the episodes in other seasons.

    I agree that this approach allowed a much richer story to develop, and made it the best SF TV series we've seen yet.

    [ flamebait]That said, the 1st and 5th seasons were comparatively weak (only on the level of good Star Trek, say) [ / flamebait]
  • Sigh.... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by mrshowtime ( 562809 ) on Thursday December 09, 2004 @08:17AM (#11040886)
    Sigh...
    B5 was really good in some places, really not good in other places. Firefly had 12 episodes, four of which I saw which were not entertaining whatsoever and Farscape never seemed to catch my interest, even though I love Sci-Fi and the Muppets. Personally, I liked Lexx, as insane as it was, more than any other of the aforementioned series.

    The best Sci-Fi series EVER, would have to be Dr. Who. Dr. Who was doing EVERYTHING before EVERYONE else and has the best villains ever. Heck, Dr. Who even invented "The Matrix" in 1978, thanks to Douglas Addams. Also, Dr. Who was voted the most popular Sci-Fi show EVER by T.V. guide readers a few years back and is (once it comes back on the air in 2005) the longest running sci-fi show ever.

    Also, ever Buffyverse/Firefly worshipper NEEDS to get "Blakes 7" on dvd to show them how a show like Firefly should be done properly. Blakes 7 is next to Dr.Who as one of the best Sci-fi shows ever made. It's finale in 1982 still holds records for one of the most watched BBC programs ever.
  • Bomb (Score:3, Insightful)

    by ralphclark ( 11346 ) on Thursday December 09, 2004 @08:39AM (#11040968) Journal
    I loved Babylon 5 unreasonably, but I'm still convinced this movie will bomb because the things that made the series great are *gone*.

    Another thing: other posts analyze why the series peaked at season three. I always wondered about that. The answer, it appears, is that Straczinsky was screwed around by Warner Bros and could never be sure if the series would continue as planned or be axed early. Way to go, Warner, there's nothing quite like shitting on your own doorstep is there? How ironic that the very worst thing that can happen to TV, is TV executives.

    I suppose I shouldn't be surprised since the very same dynamic operates in the movie industry. Just look at Highlander II (oops, sorry for reminding you...).
  • by CodeArtisan ( 795142 ) on Thursday December 09, 2004 @09:22AM (#11041175)
    True. If it wasn't for the fact the Blake's 7 was the best sci-fi series ever.
  • by fzammett ( 255288 ) on Thursday December 09, 2004 @10:28AM (#11041708) Homepage
    Although your a troll, I'll feed you...

    This is a common criticism of B5, and it shows an utter lack of understanding of the series, and life in general.

    Life is about evolution and development, in the greater sense as well as a personal sense. One of the biggest steps any person makes is stepping out of the shadows of their parents (pun intended) and walking off that cliff to fly (or fall) on their own. This is a concept that every person should be able to relate to (of course, I'm telilng this to an audience of geeks, the very people who rarely leave their parents' house!).

    B5 took this story and expanded it to galactic proportions, literally. If your mind is capable of thinking in larger terms, then you see the parallel and appreciate it.

    The conclusion of the Shadow war would have been SO much worse if they HAD been able to defeat both the Shadows and Vorlons through the use of force. The Shadows were only ever defeated in the past because the Vorlons had helped, but fighting both is an impossible task (they probably could not have defeated the Shadows militarily alone frankly). It HAD to end in some other way, and, as JMS has stated, they had to think their way out of it. They had to understand.

    This is the same thing that happens for real kids... They rebel, they want to get out on their own, but the real point of epiphany is usually some years later when they realize that their parents were trying to help them all along, not oppress them, but now they are on their own and have to rely on themselves. That's when the rebellious teenagers become good children again, but now as self-sufficient adults.

    B5 took this a step further and asked the question, what if we had two sets of parents with diametrically opposed points of view on how to raise the kids? The kids get caught in the middle obviously, the kids have to fight for the freedom, so to speak, and he parents lose their way because it becomes more about proving their point is right over the other parents.

    If you don't get this, think it through. That of course is the whole point! Suffice it to say though that the Shadow war couldn't have ended any other way without sucking and making the entire thing a shame. This is, contrary to what many people say, the one ending that doesn't do that, but you have to understand it to see that.
  • by tntguy ( 516721 ) * on Thursday December 09, 2004 @12:49PM (#11043085)

    The looking into the future episodes, particularly those so far ahead that all my favourite characters are long-dead and the universe has moved on, always diminished the scale of the main series to me, rather than showing how worthwhile it had all been as I suspect JMS intended.

    The whole point of that episode was to show that their influence was still extremely strong even one million years in the future. I don't understand how that could diminish the scale. But, I don't understand lots of things, so there you go. :-)

  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 09, 2004 @05:16PM (#11046172)
    For those worried about there not being anything in relation to the Telepath War, just remember the clues to the use of Telepaths in Shadow ships, and the seemingly secret ties to PsiCorps and the Shadow Tech agreement in Clark's regime... ;)

    TMoS may still be about the Telepath War, as well as a few other good threads... :)

    -JackN

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