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Lucas To Redo Star Wars In 3-D 593

Warlock7 writes "You might have thought that it was going to all be over on May 19 with the release of Episode III: Revenge of the Sith. Well, not so fast. It seems that George Lucas is planning to re-re-release the Star Wars films in a new 3-D format. There are also several other directors that are interested in this new technology and they are trying to get theaters to install new technology to allow the showing of their films in the new 3-D format [req free reg]."
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Lucas To Redo Star Wars In 3-D

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  • Star Wars Forever? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by lecithin ( 745575 ) on Friday March 18, 2005 @03:13PM (#11978190)
    "You might have thought that it was going to all be over on May 15 with the release of Episode III: Revenge of the Sith."

    I don't know anybody that is foolish enough to believe that this was over. As long as there is an interest and the opportunity to make some money, it isn't going to be over. Many folks thought that Star Wars would end in the 70s. It is still around decades later and still making a profit. You don't get rid of a profitable interest.

    If the entertainment factor is there, I'll go see more. Will the market of 'Star Wars Enthusiasts' allow more movies to be made? Will we see different plots in the future? Will we see more 'enhanced' versions? I'd think probably. They may suck, but I would bet that we are not done with 'Star Wars' for quite a while. I hope that what comes out is good.

    When are we going to get sick of it?
  • Um ok. (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 18, 2005 @03:15PM (#11978209)
    I guess he needs money during his retirement.
  • by theparanoidcynic ( 705438 ) on Friday March 18, 2005 @03:16PM (#11978225)
    Purely from a technological, eye-candy standpoint I'd like to see this.

    Of course, what other "brilliant re-edits" will we be subjected to for the re-re-re-release?
  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 18, 2005 @03:17PM (#11978233)
    What do the theaters have to do, will it cost them millions to gain $10,000 in profit from this?
  • by Moonlapse ( 802617 ) on Friday March 18, 2005 @03:18PM (#11978249) Journal
    its the pr0nography industry that'll have the final say........ and let's hope they go for it!
  • by pens ( 184563 ) on Friday March 18, 2005 @03:19PM (#11978276) Homepage
    I have an idea... DONT WATCH IT. Nobody's forcing you to watch his latest movie.
  • by xxavierg ( 538582 ) on Friday March 18, 2005 @03:22PM (#11978328)
    "in what new ways can I rape the fond memories of a younger generation"

    wow, when a person redoes a film of his, and you call that "rape", either you had a very bad childhood or you are very, very weak minded. or maybe you do not understand the definition of rape. i do not think redoing a movie in a way you do not like constitutes rape.

    "Please.... please stop hurting us"

    if you do not watch the new releases, it won't affect you. if you stay on the meds, you will be differentiate betweem reality and fiction.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 18, 2005 @03:24PM (#11978350)
    Yeah like when they cleaned up and enhanced the OT for the DVD release. Boy I sure hate the way those movies look fresh and vibrant and actually don't look dated almost 30 years later! Damn you Lucas! Perhaps after you see how beautifully ROTS ties everything together, you'll stop complaining and realize George owns. BTW, when was the last time you completely changed the entire movie industry forever? Just curious.
  • DVD (Score:2, Insightful)

    by klugerama ( 823835 ) on Friday March 18, 2005 @03:25PM (#11978359)
    So if they are all gung-ho about this new technology, how do they expect it to match sales long-term? 3-D has been tried before, several times, and is only appealing for a little while, until the novelty wears off and people realize it's a fucking gimmick.

    Besides, as far as I can tell, this new technology can't translate to DVD/any-other-form-of-consumer-owned-media, so do they really expect to make that much on theater sales alone? Lucas, of *anybody* in Hollywood, should be advocating a technology that will be easily transferrable into homes for years to come, not limited solely to theaters.
  • by Saxerman ( 253676 ) * on Friday March 18, 2005 @03:25PM (#11978361) Homepage
    If nothing else, you would think that the number of fan films and stories being created would be a testament to the fertile playground available to create new works in. Why would you want to continue to rehash the same 30 year old story rather than expanding on it?

    Unfortunately it's not the content holders that are the problem, it's the consumers that continue to buy it.

  • Re:9 Episodes... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by RapmasterT ( 787426 ) on Friday March 18, 2005 @03:25PM (#11978365)
    Those of us old enough to actually remember will tell you Lucas originally promised both Jack and Shit.

    The whole "Episode IV" thing didn't even come about until the theatrical re-release of Star Wars about 18 months after the initial one.

    Lucas likes to pretend he's had this grand vision all along from day one, but the plot inconsistancies and herky-jerky flow of the story looks more like incoherent post-facto ramblings than it does "planned".

  • by roman_mir ( 125474 ) on Friday March 18, 2005 @03:27PM (#11978383) Homepage Journal
    Why do you care if he releases another movie. It's his money, what's your problem? Does he put handcuffs on you and force you to sit there with your eye-lids taped to your forehead watching the movie?

    Let the guy do whatever he wants to do.

  • by serutan ( 259622 ) <snoopdoug@NoSPAm.geekazon.com> on Friday March 18, 2005 @03:31PM (#11978434) Homepage
    Hire a production crew who grew up during the original Star Wars era. Get a director like Peter Jackson, who has shown that he understands how to use great effects, tell a story on a grand scale, stay faithful to the original spirit and respect the fans. Have this production company make episodes 7,8 and 9 that were planned long ago. Now that might kick ass.
  • It's a BUSINESS (Score:2, Insightful)

    by hanshotfirst ( 851936 ) on Friday March 18, 2005 @03:33PM (#11978460)
    Do we love or hate capitalism here this week - I can never tell?

    Lucas was a creative guy with an idea that worked. It became a business. I think Lucas is a far better business man than he is a creative man. Judge this by the success of the franchise and merchandising compared to the quality of the written dialog.

    Without a moral judgement on purity of art, etc... Lucas is simply doing what any shrewd business owner does... Market the franchise. Find ways to resell an old product in new packaging, and keep the money flowing in.

  • by ALeavitt ( 636946 ) <aleavitt@gmail.c3.14om minus pi> on Friday March 18, 2005 @03:33PM (#11978465)
    From TFA:
    "It's really a beautiful system, and one of the reasons I'm promoting it today is I'm extremely anxious to reissue that old group of films I did so long ago in a galaxy far away," Lucas said.

    Well, you know, it has been almost eight years since the original trilogy was rereleased in theaters, and six months since the DVDs came out. Of course Lucas is anxious to reissue the movies - the public has pretty much forgotten about them in this fast-paced world. Lucas needs to bring the movies back to the forefront of the public consciousness, because they haven't been there in months.
    Seriously, though, does Lucas think he's kidding anybody anymore? It's so obvious that his vision isn't artistic, it's financial. He sees a way to keep making a mint with a minimum of effort, and every new film-oriented technology allows him to release Star Wars according to his "original vision," which was somehow compromised in every previous release.
  • Re:3D Jar-Jar (Score:2, Insightful)

    by AndroidCat ( 229562 ) on Friday March 18, 2005 @03:33PM (#11978467) Homepage
    Just you wait. In Revenge of the Sith, it turns out that Jar-Jar turns to the dark side and kills Palaptine and takes his place. Click-click, edit, click, and will always have been his long nose sticking out of the emperor's cowl.

    "Your fwiends can not helwp you now!"

    Dream well young bitswapper!

  • by Rightcoast ( 807751 ) on Friday March 18, 2005 @03:35PM (#11978491) Homepage
    There's no way it will be over on May 15th, not when the movie gets released on the 19th nationwide.

    -
    http://www.rightcoaster.com [rightcoaster.com]
  • Anybody here rtfa? (Score:1, Insightful)

    by katsiris ( 779774 ) on Friday March 18, 2005 @03:42PM (#11978571)
    Yes, Lucas is supporting the technology, as he supported and continues to support digital projection/film. And yeah, that means a revisit to Star Wars. So what? Would it be better that he support this new format and vow to not look at bringing Star Wars into that dimension? Should we have stuck with VHS forever or done a sloppy direct "noise-and-all" transfer to DVD?

    The original post talks about George re-releasing Star Wars in 3D, but there's more to the story than that. Where are the 'purists' begging Peter Jackson to not redo LOTR?

    Simply put, this is a story about some new means of 3D projection in which George is only one of the heavyweights who would like to see this move forward. So why does it matter that he'd like to put his movies in 3D? I could see if he was talking about axing 2D formats, but at the moment that would be mere speculation and nothing worthy of generating this knee-jerk reaction...

  • Re:Why Stop? (Score:0, Insightful)

    by alecks ( 473298 ) on Friday March 18, 2005 @03:45PM (#11978611) Homepage
    So we'll be able to see the holographic "chess" match as it was intended...finally....of course too many releases of Star Wars are prone to make original fans want to pull Lucas' arms from his sockets.
  • Stop whining (Score:2, Insightful)

    by chuckmo ( 867432 ) on Friday March 18, 2005 @03:54PM (#11978700) Homepage
    You lack discipline! No not really, but I'm tired of any post that falls under the star wars category on here resulting in a million comments that can basically be summed up as follows: "Jar-Jar is stupid! Not more Jar-Jar!" "Lucas just wants more money" etc etc etc Alls I'm sayin is you guys need to learn to deal with the fact that George Lucas has a good time making these movies: they're like a hobby. Of course, a very-well paying hobby, but I think he genuinely enjoys making them. If you watch ay behind-the-scenes stuff its very apparent that he's putting alot of work in to them. Personally, I've liked all the movies and I don't find Jar-Jar overly annoying. He's just a different version of Treepio. Sure the dialogue is crappy here and there (rewatch the originals with the mindset of "oh these are ghey" and i'm sure you can find cheesy dialogue and whatnot), but he's just building more lore into the SW universe, which is always fun.
  • Re:Is it Safe? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by andrew_0812 ( 592089 ) on Friday March 18, 2005 @03:56PM (#11978723)
    I have to wonder though. How good could this be, taking flat 2D film and trying to turn it 3d. To have effective 3D, wouldn't it have to be filmed with 3D cameras to begin with? Seems like he has a lot of work ahead of him.
  • 3D to 2D to 3D (Score:2, Insightful)

    by ackthpt ( 218170 ) * on Friday March 18, 2005 @03:58PM (#11978737) Homepage Journal
    So we'll be able to see the holographic "chess" match as it was intended...finally....of course too many releases of Star Wars are prone to make original fans want to pull Lucas' arms from his sockets.

    Ok, that'll probably require some re-rendering which I'm sure they have stuff away someplace, but without two camera angles I'm curious how you're supposed to see perspective. Maybe they do it with some re-shading, frame-by-frame, like the colorizing process.

    The thing is, the boogerhead could just re-run all the films, as they are, during the summer and they'd pack theaters anyway.

  • by shokk ( 187512 ) <ernieoporto@nOSPam.yahoo.com> on Friday March 18, 2005 @04:00PM (#11978761) Homepage Journal
    I would be content for him to remake the teddy-bear fest that was Return of the Jedi. Imagine that after the Wookies are enslaved in Episode 3, what a triumph it would be for them, not the Ewoks, to be a big part of the Empire's downfall. Not to mention the dialog just plain SUCKS!!! Please Uncle George, retell that story.
  • by jedidiah ( 1196 ) on Friday March 18, 2005 @04:00PM (#11978763) Homepage
    "derivative works" are never a bad thing. Preventing access to the originals is. The problem is when artists abuse their creative monopoly to renig on their social contract and prevent access to the originals.
  • by jedidiah ( 1196 ) on Friday March 18, 2005 @04:07PM (#11978855) Homepage
    > Dude. The OT was a cheesey sci-fi series with
    > shitty effects. Now, I love cheesey sci-fi series,
    > but how did star wars change the movie industry
    > forever? What, it made sci-fi more acceptable?

    Were you even ALIVE in the 70's have you ever even seen anything else besides StarWars and or it's decendants? ILM was a VAST improvement over the tech of that era. Those effects even stand up well today.

    HELL, the same techniques are being used today that were pioneered for the OT. HELL, the same effects house is being used today for a great deal of the effects done today.

    ILM, Pixar, EditDroid, SoundDroid, Renderman.

    The next time you see a film start out with some silly desk lamps you can think Uncle George for pioneering the tech.

    What George started and set free has flourished quite well actually.
  • Re:9 Episodes... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 18, 2005 @04:10PM (#11978904)
    Not to mension Lucas didn't write the screenplays for Episodes 5 and 6, which are, by any reasonable standard, the crown jewels of the franchise.

    Look up the original scripts for "Star Wars", it's pretty god-awful stuff. You can see some of the "ideas" there leaked into the later movies, but Star Wars was Fox's last ditch effort. Their shareholders were unloading ownership, because Star Wars was going to be the studio's last hurrah before they folded.

    But it wasn't.
    Lucas is not a visionary, not a brilliant writer or storyteller. He made some interesting but amateurish films in the 70's, and then struck gold once by pilfering the work of other directors and various uncreditted sci-fi authors, and piecing together an action-adventure movie. "Space opera" indeed.

    The man is so incredibly uncreative, we don't have the proverbial walls closing in on the hero, we have REAL WALLS closing in the hero. We don't have Pitfall Harry swinging over the alligator pit on a rope while he's saving the girl, that ACTUALLY happens in the film. The only thing that DOESN'T happen is that Leia isn't tied up and placed on a set of train tracks by a moustached villain.

    Lucas's ideas are so pedestrian, so cliched, so utterly devoid of originality or creativity. The GOOD GUYS WEAR WHITE (Luke), and the BAD GUYS WEAR BLACK (Vader). (Yeah I know, the stormtroopers break the rule, but I'll bet you dollars to donuts that they're only white so Vader stood out on film).

    The fact that, other than Star Wars, every creative act he's been involved in has been an unmitigated piece of crap sort of supports this.

    I love Star Wars too and I didn't even really HATE the two new films but George Lucas is not some genius storyteller.

    The only thing I really respect about the man is that he refuses to get involved in the Hollywood labor unions, because he doesn't like having to put a bunch of credits and credentials BEFORE his movie.
  • Re:9 Episodes... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by xgamer04 ( 248962 ) <xgamer04NO@SPAMyahoo.com> on Friday March 18, 2005 @04:30PM (#11979134)
    The fact that, other than Star Wars, every creative act he's been involved in has been an unmitigated piece of crap sort of supports this.

    You mean like Indiana Jones? Oh wait...
  • by Augusto ( 12068 ) on Friday March 18, 2005 @04:32PM (#11979156) Homepage
    > Lucas's ideas are so pedestrian, so cliched, so utterly devoid of originality or creativity. The GOOD GUYS WEAR WHITE (Luke), and the BAD GUYS WEAR BLACK (Vader). (Yeah I know, the stormtroopers break the rule, but I'll bet you dollars to donuts that they're only white so Vader stood out on film).

    You just contradict yourself and try to get out of it, but even you know you're not making any sense. Yes, the Stormtroopers were white so why are you making this stupid comment? And what's wrong with Vader having a black outfit.

    Hey Luke wears black on ROTJ, and General Grievious is all white in Revenge of the Sith. What the hell are you talking about???
  • by mph ( 7675 ) <mph@freebsd.org> on Friday March 18, 2005 @04:35PM (#11979180)
    man, people put WAY to much into relevance into a space movie...
    Yeah, they'd be better off taking slashdot comments way too seriously.
  • Re:9 Episodes... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by m_balla ( 868945 ) on Friday March 18, 2005 @05:14PM (#11979616)
    So if the screenplays suck, and the ideas are pedestrian, and Lucas is definitely NOT a genius... then why does everyone watch the films? It isn't because people are really dumb. Lucas has made it clear many times that he's trying to retell old stories and mythologies in a new way. It isn't that he can't think up other ways to save the girl or have his hero walled in... these stagings are INTENTIONALLY literal. The characters are represented in "black and white" because they are meant to be manifestations of mythological motifs that have existed in stories for thousands of years. The wize sage/wizard, the princess in distress, the hero's call to duty, the preverbial 'leap of faith' - all of these are designed to be instantly identifiable characters and actions. The power of the Star Wars stories comes from the way the archetypal characters interact with each other and ultimately how this effects a hero in realizing his destiny. Dialog is meant to advance the plot - nothing more - because like a greek play or comic book, the power of the story is conveyed through action, NOT dialogue. And you know what? People relate to this, just as our ancestors did. Lucas was a 'visionary' because he was smart enough to translate these mythic motifs to a modern media in an entertaining and yet unseen fashion. He set the stage for most fantasy and adventure films to follow (if you think the Lord of the Rings gets made into movies without Star Wars coming first, you're kidding yourself. Peter Jackson says as much.) The bottom line: Star Wars is great BECAUSE of the universality of the characters, not in spite of this. And if the dialog is a little wooden... well, who really cares?
  • by AJWM ( 19027 ) on Friday March 18, 2005 @05:36PM (#11979837) Homepage
    how did star wars change the movie industry forever?

    Well, for starters, yes it did make sci-fi more acceptable. (Or rather, acceptable again.) The then-current media scene (TV and movies) was an SF wasteland, all the good (and even mediocre) shows and movies died with the death of the Apollo program.

    Lucas also introduced some pretty amazing (for the time) technologies: motion-control cameras, for example. Previous levels of shot composition were done with relatively fixed, flat shots. Take a look at "2001" again and see how flat everything looks. There's no parallax shift as things move relative to each other, and the composite shots are pretty simple.

    For the time, the effects were anything but "shitty", they were bleeding edge state of the art. (Well, except perhaps the detonation of Dantooine, that was lame.)

    Editing (in terms of number of different scenes, cuts, etc) was also brought to a new level -- remember, back then it was still done with reels of film, a viewer, and a razor blade, none of this "digitize the whole thing and feed it into an Avid (or equiv) non-linear editing suite". (As I recall, it was Lucas' wife who did much of the editing.)

    There are also indirect effects -- Lucas invested the money he made off the first "Star Wars" in, among other things, THX sound technologies and Industrial Light and Magic (ILM) FX studios. The latter made some significant contributions to the field computer graphics.

    Yes, "Star Wars" (before it was ever called "A New Hope") changed the movie industry forever.
  • by Scroatzilla ( 672804 ) on Friday March 18, 2005 @05:37PM (#11979844) Homepage Journal
    How has he prevented access to the originals? Do you own the original Star Wars? Quit bitching. If not, get on eBay and buy it.

    Other than that, just because you and aparently millions of others have deified Star Wars doesn't give you diddly squat as far as any kind of right or privelege to decide whether or not George Lucas is doing the right thing.

    "Renig on their social contract"?? What contract is that? Lucas is a dude who created a beloved work, and who wants to "finish" it in the way that he as an artist envisioned it. That "vision" is his alone. You and all of these other nay-saying fans can bitch all you want, but because you're not the ones with the vision, you *really* have no entitlement to decide anything at all about these films.

    I can't take it anymore. Stop whining. Stop blowing these issues out of proportion. George Lucas doesn't owe anybody anything. He's already payed you by making a series of great epic films.
  • by grub ( 11606 ) <slashdot@grub.net> on Friday March 18, 2005 @05:46PM (#11979955) Homepage Journal
    George Lucas is a real figure, gods are superstitious characters.
  • by The-Bus ( 138060 ) on Friday March 18, 2005 @07:17PM (#11980722)
    Meet the Feebles is a bit overrated, although Bad Taste is cheeky enough to be funny. I actually enjoy his LoTR flicks but if someone starts making fun of Frodo and Samwise I can't help but laugh.
  • Re:3D to 2D to 3D (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Marvelicious ( 752980 ) on Friday March 18, 2005 @08:42PM (#11981284)
    ...and of course he'll replace all the guns with walkey talkeys...
  • Re:3D to 2D to 3D (Score:3, Insightful)

    by KevinKnSC ( 744603 ) on Friday March 18, 2005 @10:17PM (#11981813)
    Is there some way I could just give George Lucas my credit card number, and then he could periodically charge me $60 and mail me some discs? That seems like it would be a lot simpler than the current arrangement.
  • by jaywarrietto ( 720662 ) <jaywarrietto@gmail.com> on Friday March 18, 2005 @11:47PM (#11982228) Homepage
    I'm a projectionist for cinemark and have worked for them for well over a year. I work in one of their newest theaters and can tell you for a fact that 95% of movie theaters are not equipped for one digital projector, let alone many. only the newest built theaters are being set up to have a digital one. very few of those are ever going to get one too. cinemark is just too cheap for that.
  • by mark-t ( 151149 ) <markt@nerdf[ ].com ['lat' in gap]> on Saturday March 19, 2005 @02:43PM (#11985625) Journal
    I remember Apple once had the slogan "Apple // Forever". This was just before they came out with the 'GS' model, and only a couple years later, they ceased production of that model entirely and concentrated exclusively on the Mac, and I remember asking an Apple rep at the time what happened to their "Apple // Forever" slogan. He offered me the explanation that the Mac's were still computers made by Apple, and that the Mac _did_ have a "2" in its name (being called a Mac II). I never bought that excuse personally... I had only recently bought a GS (upgrading from my //e) and was quite frankly feeling a bit betrayed.

    The Apple // was the first computer I had ever done any serious programming in, and I positively _loved_ computer programming. However, I eventually came to realize that my feelings of being betrayed weren't about Apple, but they were entirely about my own feelings. This was my first computer, and like a first born child, it can be the hardest to eventually let go of.

    And so eventually I moved on... and today I can still use many of the old programs I had then via an Apple ][ emulator, whenever I wax nostalgic, but that doesn't mean I want to write prorams for the emulator in Applesoft Basic or 6502 assembler again.

    The moral of this anecdote?

    Nothing is forever... people who hold onto the past must at some point either let it go and move on or be left behind. Lucas needs to learn this.

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