Build Your Own Linux Home Theater PC 250
Vic writes "If you have ever dreamed of building a home theatre PC, Extremetech has details on building a Linux-based system, and covers all the details of this epic journey. They did get the unit to run lots of features such as CDs, video, TV, weather, media libraries, guide viewing and show recording." From the article: "To paraphrase one forum quote seen during the research phase of this piece: 'Buy the beer first, this ain't gonna be easy.' But there is some good news here too. Getting a Linux-based HTPC has probably never been easier, though that is admittedly damning with faint praise. So here then is the tale of our ongoing adventure toward building a Linux-based HTPC."
Sure, but... (Score:4, Interesting)
No HDTV? (Score:4, Interesting)
Wasn't there an article about HTPCs a few weeks back (though it didn't specifically focus on Linux)?
No HDTV ? (Score:4, Interesting)
Where's the cutting edge stuff!?!
xbox (Score:5, Interesting)
As long as it passes the "wife" test (Score:4, Interesting)
Not like she's a retarded spider monkey or anything - she's a graphic designer and uses OS X (left myself wide open for that one, i know) but if she's got to use three different remotes and a keyboard, there's no way in hell she's going to use the damn thing. I don't need her calling me at work to walk her through how to watch a DVD or listen to music.
Plus, if it's really easy and slick, then she'll be a lot more accepting of the equipment purchases that i tell her about.
Re:No HDTV ? (Score:2, Interesting)
Even though it's HDTV, the DTV cards aren't that sexy because they involved using rabbit ears and getting broadcast HDTV only. (so no DiscoveryHD or HBO HD)... it's dissapointing (unless you live in an area densely populated with DTV broadcasts, then I guess it's pretty cool).
Before I get the nastygram replies:
On some cable company boxes (depending on whether the HD channels you want are QAM "in the clear" you can get HDTV that way via HDTV card.
There's also firewire transport from digital cable box, which I believe the latest mythtv release has some support for (but again I believe it depends on the roll of the dice on your cable providers settings)
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Re:Sure, but... (Score:4, Interesting)
These devices change how you watch TV entirely. I only watch the shows I like, even shows I kinda like, and I watch them whenever I feel like it. I used to never watch TV because I get bored with the shows easily. Now I watch TV and fast forward through the parts that are boring. (Hint: If you watch ST:TNG you can get all the show in 30 minutes if you skip any scene involving Deanna Troi talking about people's feelings).
I've used mine for about a year now and it's completely ingrained. While visiting my inlaws, the reflex to delete a show after it's over resulted in me turning on their DVD player several times without thinking about it.
been there (Score:2, Interesting)
Now I got a MacMini here. Its small, quiet, comes with a good pre installed OS.
30$ for a remote control (BlueTooth -> SallingClicker)
and Im ready.
serves video, TV, audio, Internet (without virus probs) whatever.
Runs with or without a TV attached (use your mobile phone as a status display)
And most of all, it works ! Easy to configure and no maintenance required. Also uses much less power (25W, 40W max)
No real HD yet (only live via eyeTV from elGato and reduced resolution), but HD never worked flawlessly on my PC too.
Re:Sure, but... (Score:3, Interesting)
Step 1: Hook up a current Mac to the HDMI or DVI input of your TV.
Step 2: Hook up the EyeTV 500 from Elgato to your Mac via Firewire.
Step 3: There's no step three.
I've been using this set up for my media center for a couple months now, enjoying HDTV with PVR features, DVDs (mostly archived on my hard drives), Doctor Who rips downloaded from newsgroups, my entire music library (which I'm slowly upgrading from MP3 and/or AAC to Apple Lossless format), and World of Warcraft gaming on my 119" projector screen.
So far, nobody can figure out the convoluted way in which I programmed my remote control except for me, but one of these rainy afternoons I might set it up in a more logical way... if I'm not too busy playing WoW or watching shows on it.
Re:Hey, that should be the new OSS slogan (Score:3, Interesting)
That'd do wonders for Linux and OSS.
downloading movies (Score:3, Interesting)
Downloading movies (yes, I mean mainstream movies with restricted licenses, not the few that are free) would be one of the killer apps for a Linux HTPC, but it seems there is no way to do it, even if I am willing to pay.
We do one better (Score:3, Interesting)
Right now, I'm running a via-1000 mb with Freevo, and no tuner card. Plug it right into the tv, set up NFS and SMB shares to my fileserver and just wach TV.
I'm using Windows MCE because of DRM :-( (Score:3, Interesting)
DRM is killing me. I'd love to run something non-Microsoft, but I personally do not want to sacrifice quality. I want to be able to play the highest quality that's available.
This means WMV9-HD @ 1080p for video and DVD-Audio for audio. (okay, I'm sure some of you will want to debate this, go ahead. Anyone that I show WMV9-HD to is simply blown away.)
One of the most unfortunate things is that you can not run WMV9-HD without using Microsoft binaries. In theory this is something that can be solved, because if I understand it correctly, WMV9 is standardized and it should be able to implement a decoder from the specs.
BUT, the standard most certainly does NOT cover the added DRM layer that a lot of WMV9-HD content has. And Microsoft has no intention to solve that problem. What we need is a DeCSS variant to remove the DRM from WMV9.
I'm unaware of any DVD-Audio playback capabilities under Linux, but again, this is certainly something that's technically possible. Except for, you guessed it, DRM. At the moment there's only one combination available if you want to play DVD-Audio discs that are 'encrypted'; SoundBlaster Audigy (not the lowest end one) and Windows.
For this one, I'm working on a solution (hardware based). The problematic thing is that the encryption scheme allows for key revokation. I think this is specifically designed as a counter act to the Xing key discovery. If they find that we discover the SoundBlaster key (or maybe find some other way to use the SoundBlaster to get the unencrypted data), then they can revoke it, making new content unplayable on the SoundBlaster. This may sound as very hard to believe (it does to me), and I may be wrong. But I don't see how else it would work.
Re:No HDTV ? (Score:3, Interesting)
Now, it won't match the detail of a 720p or 1080i set, but upgrading your display can wait, if it has to, On the other hand, if all you have is an old set with composite or RF connectors, maybe upgrading your display would be in your best interest.
The major advantage of HDTV from a computing perspective is that it's already digital-- mpeg2 video, ac3 sound.
Then again, I get my signals OTA, not from cable or satellite. I understand that some satellite and cable companies try to charge extra money for the benefit of a few HD channels.
Re:Too Little Too Late (Score:2, Interesting)
How fast do you think there will be a mod chip for it and someone has Linux on there? DAYS after the release, at worst. HOURS is probably more like it.
Re:Why are there not more turn-key versions of thi (Score:2, Interesting)
Would you be willing to buy a backend/frontend combo, and then buy additional frontend systems for additional rooms?
I'm looking for feed back, as I am working with a small group of people to develop exactly this.
I'm interested in your feedback.
Media Center, Shmedia Center... (Score:4, Interesting)
Considering how many people these days are VERY familiar with the W.I.M.P. (Windows, Icons, Menus, Pointer) paradigm, there is no need to disguise what these boxes really are unless you are trying to create a very limited use appliance like a Tivo or iPod.
With that in mind, my home theater PC is just a Celeron (P4 family) running Fedora Core 3, Xine (which does nearly everything) and a Hauppaugue PVR250 card (which is perfect for this sort of thing). I wrote some scripts and created some icons to match and my wife finds this WAYYYY easier than the VCR menus system, the Windows ME based system we had before and you know why? She looked at it and said, "Oh, it works like a computer. This is easy'. I've been running like this since about February. It's perfect. Click on one icon and the system becomes a "TV". Hit "Q" (thanks to Xine's extensive kb shortcuts) and you're back to the desktop. Watch a DVD? Just pop it in the drive and Fedora's MagicDev application will launch my "playdvd" script which automatically starts a fullscreen Xine session and starts playing the DVD with full menu navigation support, etc...
Schedule a recording? Just click the scheduler icon and thanks to the magic of Gnome 2.x's Zenity add on, I have a series of nice GUI based dialog boxes that allow me to select the date and time of the recording as well as program name and recording length. It sticks all the info in cron and the show is scheduled. Pause live TV? Just click the "pausetv" icon on the button dock and Xine launches while I have a 'cat
My wife loves the new system since she feels it's the easiest I've ever set up. The real key is to put down the pretenses that this box is anything more than a computer. For my next trick, I'll be completely eliminating any TV or stereo gear from this setup. The TV gets replaced by a much higher quality display LCD computer monitor. The Yamaha 5.1 amp is getting replaced with an amp of my own design that will just be an amp leaving all the preamp features to Gnome's Mixer applet. Can't get any easier than that...