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Star Wars Premier: The Line People 379

proudtobeageek writes "A friend of mine, an attendee of a midnight opening of Star Wars Episode III, took the opportunity to conduct a short documentary/interview of the costumed movie goers. He has his short movie available here on his blog."
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Star Wars Premier: The Line People

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  • Whoop-de-doo. (Score:2, Insightful)

    by DavidChristopher ( 633902 ) on Monday May 23, 2005 @01:03AM (#12609836)
    I started to d/l this, and then I realized that I don't care.

    I'm already tired of all this starwars crap.
  • by FlyByPC ( 841016 ) on Monday May 23, 2005 @01:11AM (#12609876) Homepage
    Amen, brother! If posting a "MOD PARENT UP" post weren't just as un-hip as standing in line in a Wookiee costume...
  • by Hesperus ( 16733 ) on Monday May 23, 2005 @01:17AM (#12609896) Homepage
    Hey, slashdot editors. Consider updating the story with the coralized version of the URL:
    http://redirect.nyud.net:8090/?url=http://www.ryan mast.com/tangentideaproductions/Ep3-TheLinePeople. mov [nyud.net]

    Just a thought. I'm surprised you guys don't just do this automatically by now.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 23, 2005 @01:20AM (#12609912)
    perhaps society has failed you instead, for making you believe someone is a monster because they eccentricly dress up as a character in a movie every few years and have a bit of fun.
  • by saskboy ( 600063 ) on Monday May 23, 2005 @01:22AM (#12609925) Homepage Journal
    I use the free Quicktime Alternative that comes with Media Player Classic. It played the video clip fine, but it doesn't play QT 6.5 plugin videos on websites which I find is the only drawback.
  • Re:Whoop-de-doo. (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 23, 2005 @01:36AM (#12609963)
    So Star Wars isn't cool anymore? Guess I missed the memo. It's one thing to never think something is cool, it's quite another to think something is no longer cool. It's called being trendy. Try to find some one that admits to voting for Nixon or that will admit to liking Disco. Personally I liked the original film but it didn't exactly change my life. After that they got progressively worse. I had fun with the films but that was about the limit of it. There's nothing wrong with out growing the films but suddenly waking up one day and claiming to be tired of them doesn't make you cool it means you're on to the next trend. Go ahead and send me a memo when you find out what's cool now, I never keep up with that crap myself.
  • Re:Whoop-de-doo. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by rm999 ( 775449 ) on Monday May 23, 2005 @02:00AM (#12610028)
    All he said is that he is tired of it. "Cool" is a concept that doesn't mean anything once you are about 25.
  • by Lisandro ( 799651 ) on Monday May 23, 2005 @02:17AM (#12610083)
    But their "loser"-status can't be all their fault. At some point, we as a society have turned them into these monsters by shunning them, excluding them, or mocking them for their odd and sometimes strange behavior. Perhaps it's some mild autism that they suffer from, or maybe some other neural disease that makes them "different" from most of us (and I use the word loosely) "normals".

    Come on, isn't that a *tad* too much? Their behaviour is strange to you; they are happy, they have fun and they don't hurt anybody. Why bother? You said it yourself, you have better things to do with your spare time than critizing movies. They don't, they like it. Tastes vary.

    Oh, and it's not a disease; these people are not sick. They just engage in activities most people find odd.
  • by Lord_Dweomer ( 648696 ) on Monday May 23, 2005 @02:35AM (#12610147) Homepage
    Oh clever little troll, I see you've managed to get modded up. While I do not consider myself one of these fans you so graciously pity, I would hold them above you for they certainly would not judge someone doing something they found odd since they know of the perception that society holds of them. Please explain how what you have to do aside from criticizing them is "better".

    How dare you judge these people. Who are YOU to judge them. You're the one posting on here about them despite claiming to have "better" things to do.

    If you ask me, the world could use some more "losers" like those fans waiting in line, and the sooner we get rid of judgemental people like yourself, the sooner people won't feel like they're "losers" because they have interests that differ from the norm.

  • by zerbot ( 882848 ) on Monday May 23, 2005 @02:50AM (#12610183)
    Hmm... maybe the real losers are those who feel the need to define people who are different as losers instead of just letting people who aren't hurting anybody else just have their fun.
  • Come on guys (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Lurgen ( 563428 ) on Monday May 23, 2005 @02:55AM (#12610195) Journal
    This isn't newsworthy. It's stupid and boring. Since when did /. become "News for Star Wars fanboys"?

    For the record, the story about Star Wars Episode 3 being downloaded a lot? Same category. Dunno if any of the admins have been paying attention, but movies get downloaded once in a while and at least one or two of them have nothing to do with Star Wars.

    I'm all for posting a story about the release of the film. It's a geek film. But half a dozen of the stupid things in a week is just plain rubbish. Slashdot is rapidly working it's way off my list of daily reads simply because I'm sick of reading the same articles over and over again. Seeing the same three articles every week is kinda boring: "Check out this Star Wars [blah]", "Google are about to take over the world", and "Microsoft sucks because Penguins are cute".

    BORING!
  • by Eminence ( 225397 ) <{akbrandt} {at} {gmail.com}> on Monday May 23, 2005 @03:08AM (#12610223) Homepage
    "Revenge of the Sith" rang in a whopping $50 million on its opening Thursday, a single-day record boosted by eagerly anticipated midnight showings, and its total receipts since then beat the four-day $134.3 million opening of 2003's "The Matrix Reloaded." The George Lucas film has also grossed $144.7 million overseas for a total of $303 million worldwide.

    So, the title should have been "The Revenge of the Movie Industry" or "The Cash Sucking Machine Strikes Back"?

  • by Vorondil28 ( 864578 ) on Monday May 23, 2005 @03:34AM (#12610285) Journal
    If you guys haven't already dl'ed it, don't bother -- it's not worth the bandwidth.

    Funny? No.
    Witty? Hardly.
    Informative? Not Quite.
    Worthy of /.? Certainly not.
    A pathetic attempt to plug an otherwise unremarkable blog? Bingo.
  • by Moraelin ( 679338 ) on Monday May 23, 2005 @04:26AM (#12610403) Journal
    That's more or less what I wanted to post, especially seeing all the sad posts cheering that other lame dog-with-a-cigar video. I'm not even a SW fan, but I found that video lame and not funny. I just saw a lamer not even making jokes, but outright insulting people to their face because of their passtime didn't match the prescribed role for their age and social category. (Eew! They're playing Risk! That's a game for 12 year olds!) If that's funny...

    It all boils down to enforcing conformity. If you don't act and dress like your prescribed role, you're an evil monster and a "loser". If you have a different passtime than the category you're pegged into, you're an evil monster and a "loser".

    If you play Risk (or god forbid Warhammer 40k or Battletech) instead of Chess, or MTG instead of Bridge or Poker, you're a "loser" and an evil monster. If you spend 4 hours a day in front of the TV with a console game and a controller in hand, instead of 4 hours a day on the same TV but on sports channel with a beer can in hand, you're a "loser" and an evil monster. If you spend all weekend working on your computer, instead of working all week on your car like a Real Man (TM), you're a "loser" and an evil monster. And god forbid that you dare wear anything other than the approved uniform for your category, because that _really_ makes you an unholy monster.

    If you don't want to be an evil monster, then, see, you have to dress like this, hold the beer can and remote like this while watching sports on TV, go to the same pub all the neighbours go to, etc.

    Even if you want to be a rebel teenager, see, you can't just go ahead and do it your way. Nosiree, bob. Only "losers" do things their own way. To properly be a "rebel" you have to mindlessly conform to the "teenage rebel" role. Here's the approved list of rebel clothes, music, passtime and conversation topics.

    Welcome to being sheep.

    And it seems to me like WTH is the problem with these self-appointed guardians of conformity? Do their property values go down because someone two streets away spends too much time with a computer or watches the "wrong" movies, or what? Seems to me that whether I wanted to wear a business suit, or a spandex super-hero suit and cape, or a Jedi robe with "I went to the dark side and all I got was this stupid robe" on the back (never wore any of the three, but just saying), it ought to be noone else's business.

    *sigh* Guess I might as well become a misanthrope now and avoid the christmas rush.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 23, 2005 @04:33AM (#12610419)

    To the posters who feel the need to deride the people in the video: Look in the fucking mirror!

    What's really sad is that this video has more personality and livelier people than the movie they're on line to see.
  • by Moraelin ( 679338 ) on Monday May 23, 2005 @04:58AM (#12610472) Journal
    "But seriously, there is a problem. Over 40% of males end up living with their parents into their twenties these days."

    No, I don't live with my parents, in fact I live half a country away. Even visiting each other occasionally is a bit inconvenient. But I'm still left scratching my head "and the problem with being a family is...?"

    See, virtually all cultures and societies used to be centred around the family until recently. Whether it was a farm or a medieval blacksmith's shop or whatever, it was _normal_ for a house to be the home for a whole extended family, and it was _normal_ at least for the firstborn to stay with the parents until they die.

    E.g., when you read about the Vikings who sacked England or ended up elite bodyguards as far as Byzantium or Baghdad, those weren't really the cool ones. Those were the disinherited ones who had to fight or starve to death. The "cool" ones were those who inherited their father's farm and didn't have to fight. The ones who, in fact, lived with their parents not only into the 20's, but all the way until the parents died.

    The craze about being on your own, and thinking you're so cool because you have no support, and your starving or not depends on a PHB's whims is an industrial age invention. I.e., a very recent one.

    Is it really that much better. Yes, you're so cool, you live on your own, you have a big house and a car of your own. And it'll be so cool until you're old and sick. Then your choice will be to die lonely and abandoned in your home, or half-starved and still abandoned in the cheapest asylum your kids could find. Because now it would be sooo _uncool_ for your kids to have a parent in _their_ house.

    We churn generation after generation who _will_ spend the last decade of their life abbandoned among strangers, and die among strangers.

    Not saying that I have a better solution or anything, but it makes me sorta idly wonder... is it really that much of an improvement?
  • by Deslock ( 86955 ) on Monday May 23, 2005 @07:06AM (#12610705)

    You bring up a lot of good points... people are often cruel and the pressure to conform can be overwhelming. But this isn't about being sheep; my board-game/Magic/role-playing buddies and I all thought the Triumph [amazon.com] Star Wars video was hilarious. Hell, many of the Star Wars fans were cracking up while they were being mocked. Triumph has the same effect when he makes fun of Bon Jovi and their fans, Hollywood Squares, American Idol, and Hawaii. He could target jocks and prom queens and it'd be just as funny.

    We're all absurd in our own ways, so lighten up and enjoy the ride.

  • Comment removed (Score:5, Insightful)

    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Monday May 23, 2005 @07:09AM (#12610720)
    Comment removed based on user account deletion
  • by Moraelin ( 679338 ) on Monday May 23, 2005 @07:34AM (#12610779) Journal
    There is a lost art to making fun of people, or mocking them. It involves some subtlety. You know, stuff like irony, sarcasm, insinuation and/or goading them into acting like fools themselves.

    E.g., Jay Leno, back in the 90s when I still bothered watching TV at all, was funny. He could bring up all sorts of mean stuff, but... without coming and spewing insults as such. He let you fill in the dots yourself.

    E.g., Dilbert [dilbert.com] manages to _occasionally_ be funny, even in all its sheer anti-management bitterness. Whereas the average "my boss sucks donkey balls and should die" blog isn't.

    Just outright insulting people to their face isn't the same thing. It lacks any kind of finesse.

    There is no insinuation or irony in telling a pregnant woman that her unborn son will be a nerd and never even see female genitals. It's just a very very nasty thing to say to a mother. It ranks almost up there with saying "I foresee that your son will die of cancer."

    And dunno, maybe I'm just deffective or not judgmental enough to find that kind of thing funny.

    And again, it's not even about SW and its fans, seein' as I'm not one. You know, I'm the guy who posted on /. that episode 4 was nothing special, and Obi Wan holds his lightsaber like he'd hold his *ahem* tool when peeing. That everyone only liked episode 4 because they saw it when they were 6 years old. I'm not really SW fan material.

    I'd still find it not funny against anyone, though. Jocks, prom queens, rappers, bad managers, you name it. E.g., God knows I've posted a lot against bad management, but if anyone went to a management convention and started outright insulting random managers... dunno, I don't think I'd find that funny either.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 23, 2005 @07:40AM (#12610801)

    Ahh but to truly know recursion you must of first known know.
    You see there are known knowns, These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know.
  • by mo^ ( 150717 ) on Monday May 23, 2005 @08:13AM (#12610917)
    Interestingly, clothe these people in football (soccer) kits, move location to wembley ticket office, include the mindset that eats from plates with club logo and drinks from mugs with club logo (also the wallpapers, bedsheets etc)

    and you have a socially accepted soccer fan
  • by thenerdgod ( 122843 ) on Monday May 23, 2005 @09:00AM (#12611114) Homepage
    "If you play Risk (or god forbid Warhammer 40k or Battletech) instead of Chess, or MTG instead of Bridge or Poker, you're a "loser" and an evil monster." ...no, but if you play it obsessively, or spend more time interacting with people throught he medium of Warhammer 40k than you do, say, out at dinner with friends--or, if you dress up like Stormtrooper Q323-a and interact with other stormtroopers... ...then maybe you should stop interacting with your fellow human beings through a medium and do it directly. Stop meta-living and start actually having a life. It's too short to spend it in some faerie world of make-believe hiding yourself from those evil people who you fear are trying to make you "conform".

  • by Moraelin ( 679338 ) on Monday May 23, 2005 @09:41AM (#12611388) Journal
    First of all, both Battletech and Chess are board games, played with pieces over a board. Face to face. Both MTG and Poker are card games. That's why I paired them like that: because the medium isn't _that_ different.

    Chess is no more and no less a wargame than Battletech or Warhammer: it was in fact designed to be a wargame from the start, modelled after the real armies of that era. (The "bishop" was a war elephant, pawns were footsoldiers, etc.) When two people meet to play chess, it's no more and no less playing a battle than in Battletech. Except one makes you some intellectual elite, the other makes you a loser.

    I'm not even talking about playing the online versions of either. (Although I can vouch for at least MegaMek as an excellent online implementation of Battletech. Open Source too. Check it out on Sourceforge.) In both cases the people are face to face, but in one of the cases that makes them nerds without a life or something.

    So why is it that spending the weekend playing Poker is OK, but spending the weekend playing MTG past an age would get half the people looking down on you? Heck, if anyone heard that a co-worker lost $2000 at poker, they'd probably pat them on the shoulder and show some compassion. (Even if the kind of compassion to an addict.) But if anyone heard that an adult co-worker spent $200 (i.e., a tenth of that) on MTG cards, chances are good they'd think "gee, what a loser nerd".

    Why?

    Or how about football? Don't tell me that's not escaping reality, even though it doesn't involve stormtroopers or dwarves. (Although it does involve equally silly outfits.)

    Now if I gathered myself and three friends on the couch and watched some good ol' american football, it would be ok and socially acceptable. But if the exact same 4 people, on the same couch, and in front of the same TV, played a 4-player game of, say, Gauntlet Legends, it would be a case of "gee, such nerdy losers. Grow up, get out more."

    Why? What's so different between the two. What makes one an ok and socially acceptable way to spend your life, and the other some pathologic refuse for losers? It still involves the same people, they still meet in person, etc. Why is one of them somehow so unsocial, and why does meeting people count as "hiding from people"?

    Or ok, you've met with your friends in a park, or at a cigarette break at work, and you're talking. Social enough, right? Yes, well, if you talk about yesterday's football game, it's social. But if the same people talk about yesterday's RPG or video game session, you're a bunch of nerds and losers.

    Maybe it's the costumes that make it be bad? Well, no. Going in a stupid costume and with a flag painted on your face to a football match, now that counts as socially acceptable. Not the kind of "acceptable" you'd do at the office, mind you, but the kind where everyone understands "eh, people need to vent steam and act like fans now and then" or "eh, it's just a football game, it's normal". But if you go in a Jedi robe to a movie, or in a chain maille to LOTR, eeew, now that makes you such a loser.

    Why? Both are wearing a costume to an event.

    That's the kind of thing I'm talking about. Things that are basically not that different, one counts as OK, one makes you a "loser". Things that _are_ social make you "a lonely nerd" just because they're not _the_ prescribed social passtimes for the age and social group you're pegged in.

    And I'd be damned if I find any other good explanation than mindless prejudice and conformism.
  • Re:Amazing (Score:3, Insightful)

    by WinterSolstice ( 223271 ) on Monday May 23, 2005 @10:26AM (#12611761)
    Actually, his voice powers some of my favorite characters. He's no Harrison Ford, but he did pretty well for an ex-gymnist.

    -WS

  • Some humans find comfort in the familiar. Things that are different, or apart from the herd, are disturbing and to be avoided.

    Your comment reminds me of a sci-fi story I read where the basic premise was that most humans in the future rode around on all-terrain wheelchair-type vehicles. They depended on them so much that their legs atrophied and they couldn't walk anymore. When these people saw someone walking (they had an insulting name for them I cannot recall) they would actually try to run them over out of disdain. Do some technologically adept folk look at the Amish in a similar, if less severe, light?

    Expansion of the mind beyond the normal and mundane and variety are beautiful things. I pity those who in striving so hard to be accepted by the herd lose their own sense of self and become simply another clone.
  • by cmburns69 ( 169686 ) on Monday May 23, 2005 @11:20AM (#12612250) Homepage Journal
    Do you think our chances of procreating are really greater than theirs?

    C'mon! We're the ones reading slashdot! ;p
  • by Solr_Flare ( 844465 ) on Monday May 23, 2005 @12:02PM (#12612696)
    I happen to be very good friends with one of the professional costumers who does this in her spare time. I also accompanied her to this year's celebration 3. I had never been to one of these, but I figured what the hey, its the last movie and I grew up on this stuff, it'll be a fun vacation.

    Well, you might have seen her on TV. She was dressed as Bousch(spelling?) the bounty hunter Leia was disguised as in Return of the Jedi. She was on MSNBC, G4(yeah I shuddered too), and multiple other networks. She even had a number of Lucasfilm and ILM VIPs come up to her and ask for pictures/compliment her on the authenticity of her outfit. She also happens to be about the exact same height and build as Leia in RotJ so, to say the least, she was pretty spot on.

    Anyway, why does she do it? She does it because it is a fun hobby, and because she likes to see the kids smile. She's a school teacher too, again in large part because of the kids. That's why a lot of the professionals(like the 501st) are doing this. To these people it is a hobby just like radio controlled airplanes, model boat building, etc. Only they end up wearing the final product. And they do it for the reactions and to see the kids smile and the adults remember a bit of their childhood.

    Now, that said, there certainly are a few nuts out there. A lot of the time these people will show up in these lines and such. These are the people who just threw something together in a day or less. These are kind of like the big fat guys with painted beer bellies you see at sports events. The professionals are more like your cheerleaders, and they take their job pretty seriously. They get some nice perks too, the professionals that is. My friend has had private sit down dinners with the likes of Peter Mayhew, Jeremy Bulloch, Ian McDermand, Ben Burtt etc. You get to meet some neat people apparantly

    Anyway, it isn't something I would choose to do as a hobby, but I gained a lot of respect towards the professionals who do this in their spare time after my trip to Celebration 3. So yeah, laugh, smile, joke, or have fun with them all, thats part of why they are there. But, hopefully this will let you see the people who do this sort of stuff as a serious hobby in a bit different light. I know I did.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 23, 2005 @12:31PM (#12613058)
    He's not Triumph the Insinuating comic dog or Triumph the Ironic comic dog, or Triumph the Subtle comic dog.

    If he weren't insulting people, he wouldn't really be living up to his name.

    He's Triumph the Insult comic dog, and that's what he does. He insults people for comedic effect. If you don't find it funny, that's fine. I don't find Gallagher's brand of melon-squashing humor funny. But some people do. And to those people I say "Don't forget your raincoat!", not "You shouldn't enjoy his humor because it's not funny."
  • Re:I don't get it (Score:4, Insightful)

    by garett_spencley ( 193892 ) on Monday May 23, 2005 @12:39PM (#12613129) Journal
    That's one of the reasons I don't go to movie theaters anymore.

    Not only is it insanely expensive ($15 / ticket now at the movie palace in my city! I can buy a DVD and own it for unlimited viewings for that) and you have to sit through 1/2 hour of commercials for coke, msn and countless cars plus the movies themselves are commericals now with all the blatant product placement .. but you still have all the idiots and teenagers who talk, kick your chair and leave their cell phones on for the duration of the movie.

    Why on earth anyone actually pays for that kind of experience these days is just beyond me.

    I love movies but I'd rather rent or buy a DVD and kick back at home in my underwear where I can watch the whole movie through and not have to worry about other people killing it for me.
  • by netsavior ( 627338 ) on Monday May 23, 2005 @12:43PM (#12613179)
    translation: Get off my lawn

    you messed up some golden punch lines

    There is no insinuation or irony in telling a pregnant woman that her unborn son will be a nerd and never even see female genitals. It's just a very very nasty thing to say to a mother. It ranks almost up there with saying "I foresee that your son will die of cancer."

    First of all, jokes don't all have to rely on irony or subtilty, they can rely on TIMING.

    He asked when she was due... she told him and he said that she would remember it forever... becuase that is the last time he would see female genitals.

    as for comparing that to dying of cancer, I feel very sad that you consider yours, mine, and everyone's geekhood to be some sort of fatal curse. I consider it to be a welcome part of my personality.

    It takes a fragile person to crumble under an insult especially a funny one. That type of fragile person is also the type that would not go out into public in an insult magnet of a costume.

    Triumph is welcome at any of my Mtg tournaments and is welcome to insult my pregnant wife.
  • Re:Amazing (Score:4, Insightful)

    by alexjohns ( 53323 ) <almuric.gmail@com> on Monday May 23, 2005 @12:51PM (#12613312) Journal
    That was one of my personal all time classic movie moments.

    I still get weirded out by Leia kissing Luke in the first one, now that we know the real relation.

    And my favorite all-time classic movie moment comes from 'Jaws'. The police chief (Roy Scheider) is chumming, while Quint and Hooper are arguing inside the boat. The shark surfaces, and then Scheider's character backs into the room, cigarette dangling from the bottom lip, he says, "You're gonna need a bigger boat."

    God, I love that scene. Quintessentially perfect. The cigarette. The delivery. The expression. They should have given him an oscar just for that one scene.

  • by Patik ( 584959 ) <cpatik AT gmail DOT com> on Monday May 23, 2005 @01:10PM (#12613622) Homepage Journal
    it was common practice to arrive at the theater pretty much any time, watch the last part of the movie, then watch the first part and leave when you got to the part you walked in.
    Kind of like jumping into the middle of a Slashdot conversation and inciting flamewars by replying to others' comments, then going back and reading the blurb to find out what the hell you were arguing about.

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