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The Ultimate Star Trek Collection 414

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roelbj writes "For those Star Trek fans wondering what to ask for this Christmas, you may wish to consider The Ultimate Star Trek Collection to be released on November 15. For just (cough) $2499.99, you'll get 212, count them, 212 DVDs with everything ever produced under the name, including all seasons of all five telvision series as well as the ten feature films. Before loading up your disc changer and hitting play, remember to get up once in a while."
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The Ultimate Star Trek Collection

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  • by ReformedExCon (897248) <reformed.excon@gmail.com> on Monday November 07, 2005 @03:37AM (#13967894)
    Sorry, that's the deal breaker.

    Hardly "Ultimate".
  • Really... (Score:2, Insightful)

    by bl4nk (607569)
    It was only a matter of time. :)
  • by AmicoToni (123984) on Monday November 07, 2005 @03:40AM (#13967905)
    It doesn't seem to contain Star Trek: The Animated Series!... [startrekanimated.com]
    • by Anonymous Coward
      The validity of the events in the animated series in connection to the original series timeline is disputed.
      • by Anonymous Coward
        > The validity of the events in the animated series in connection to the original series timeline is disputed.

        Someone's been spending too much time on Wikipedia
    • Less tribbles... less troubles
  • by ravenspear (756059) on Monday November 07, 2005 @03:40AM (#13967906)
    I really don't see the point of this. Every true geek has already seen all of that anyway. It's not something they really need.

    On the other hand $2500 will pay for a lot of hookers.
  • No way (Score:5, Insightful)

    by JudgeFurious (455868) on Monday November 07, 2005 @03:40AM (#13967907)
    I love Star Trek, hell I grew up watching it. I even love bad Star Trek. I can't justify spending $100+ per season on it though and I never will. Paramount needs to put the crack pipe down and get those seasons in the $49-$59 range. It's not worth what they're asking. At $49 bucks a season I'd probably own most of it by now.
    • Re:No way (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Fallingcow (213461) on Monday November 07, 2005 @03:55AM (#13967957) Homepage
      Agreed.

      I was so happy when they announced that DS9 was finally coming out on DVD. I hadn't even looked at any of the others, as I wasn't interested (though I've since come to enjoy the original series). It came out, and I was TOTALLY ready to fork out $40 for each season. They might even have gotten $50 or so out of me.

      They were something like $110 the first time I saw them. WTF? Those bastards can go to hell. Now I'm so pissed off at them that I'll likely never buy the seasons at all.

      It was the same thing with the X-Files. I don't know if it's changed, but it was about $100 when it came out. Totally crazy.
      • I'm slowly buying them because I'm such a total DS9 addict. What annoys me big time is the fact that
        a)they come in a big molded box. I was PLEASED that DVDs are so space saving. grrrrrrrr
        b)You can't skip the pathetic menu intro. WHY? I HAVE PAID FOR THIS YOU DIPSTICKS.
        Unfortunately my geekness overrides my grouchiness and I still buy them...
      • Re:No way (Score:4, Informative)

        by PhotoBoy (684898) on Monday November 07, 2005 @06:42AM (#13968423)
        You could always register your displeasure by buying some bootlegs on Ebay... ;)

        What annoys me even more about all the Trek boxsets is that they have virtually no extras. There are no commentaries to speak of, there's just one set of extras on the last disc of the season. Usually they are just a bunch of archived interviews and the occasional retrospective from the cast and crew. For the money they're asking I'd expect a lot more than that.
      • Re:No way (Score:3, Informative)

        by fdiskne1 (219834)

        It was the same thing with the X-Files. I don't know if it's changed, but it was about $100 when it came out. Totally crazy.

        Actually, they are now selling them in mythology sets: Abduction [amazon.com] Black Oil [amazon.com], Colonization [amazon.com], and Super Soldiers [amazon.com]. I'm considering buying them this way. It might actually cost more per episode. I haven't figured that out but these sets are affordable and you only get the ones you want. Now if only they come out with the Lone Gunmen set. Not the Lone Gunmen series. I already have that. I

    • Re:No way (Score:5, Informative)

      by nmb3000 (741169) <nmb3000@that-google-mail-site.com> on Monday November 07, 2005 @04:22AM (#13968049) Homepage Journal
      Paramount needs to put the crack pipe down and get those seasons in the $49-$59 range.

      EXACTLY!

      I am so tired of these morons trying to suck every penny from the franchise as they possibly can while ignoring simple facts. The truth is, if they cut the price in half, they would likely sell more than double what they are now. It has nothing to do with production or advertisement, it's all the greedy bastards at Paramount. X-Files was the same way until just recently when they dropped the price (at least at my local Costco) from $100/season to $40. Stargate SG-1 (owned by MGM) seasons have been $35-40 since they were first released, and they are already committed to 10 seasons. Hell, Enterprise is only 4 seasons and it's still over $100/season. Why can't others follow MGM's suit?

      The truth is that the people behind the Star Trek franchise are complete and utter fools. They embrace such asinine marketing such as this. They continue to allow the failures known as Berman and Braga to rape the franchise. They blame poor box office ratings for Nemesis on the fans and other big-name movies and not piss-poor writing and directing [nyud.net] . They blame the failure of Enterprise on the fans and not piss-poor writing and directing.

      In reality it's probably a good thing the franchise is "resting". You can only screw something up so long before people give up on it. Hopefully when they try resurrecting it they'll have found people to produce it with something called talent.
      • Re:No way (Score:3, Insightful)

        The truth is, if they cut the price in half, they would likely sell more than double what they are now.

        The thing is, that's almost certainly not true, because their marketing people almost certainly did some trials on what people would be prepared to pay and picked the sweet spot that maximises their income. As much as I'd like to believe what you wrote, and see various over-priced sci-fi DVDs brought down to the same level as everything else, I can believe that in the case of ST there are enough super-

        • Re:No way (Score:3, Interesting)

          by ArsonSmith (13997)
          Keeping the prices on DVDs high also keeps the ability to license it out to brodcasters high. Getting rerun rights is going to be a pretty big payoff as well. If everyone owns the DVDs then noone will watch the reruns, thus less money from that point. Yet without any DVDs they don't get the buzz needed to get people to watch re reruns as well.

          That is where the sweet point is to be found.
    • Re:No way (Score:3, Interesting)

      by sdnoob (917382)
      purchased individually, though... what parts *wouldn't* you buy, even at 50 a season?

      at ahem, NORMAL pricing...
      28 total seasons @ 49.95
      10 feature films @ 19.95
      comes to a grand total of: 1598.10
      so they've over priced it by 900 bucks. they must still be trying to recoup losses from enterprise or something. if it (upn) wasn't on a pissy little low-power uhf around here, i would probably have watched it (reception lousy even on digicable). (btw, the enterprise dvd sets must be selling well if startrek.com only
  • worth it? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by fredistheking (464407) on Monday November 07, 2005 @03:41AM (#13967908)
    Seeing that you will be paying more than $10 a disc is this worth it? Shouldn't you get some kind of discount for getting so many discs?

    Wait until it's at least 30% off.
  • My god! (Score:5, Funny)

    by Rhinobird (151521) on Monday November 07, 2005 @03:42AM (#13967912) Homepage
    It's full of Star Treks!

    I swear, I hear angels singing right now. And is it possible for divine light to shine on a webpage?
  • by ErMaC (131019) <ermac AT ermacstudios DOT org> on Monday November 07, 2005 @03:42AM (#13967915) Homepage
    It's missing The Animated Adventures [wikipedia.org], which Paramount has said they plan on releasing on DVD at some point next year.

    And I think it's sad that of the Star Trek stories to be posted, this makes the front page where as the passing of Michael Piller [startrek.com] doesn't.
    • It's missing The Animated Adventures [wikipedia.org], which Paramount has said they plan on releasing on DVD at some point next year
      Of course there's something missing. Later they will release another Ultimate Collection, which includes this animated series but will be missing other crucial material. So you'll have to buy both series to own it all.

      I thought this was common practice these days.
    • Also (Score:4, Interesting)

      by blincoln (592401) on Monday November 07, 2005 @05:58AM (#13968309) Homepage Journal
      It's missing the theatrical cut of The Wrath of Khan, which I vastly prefer to the extended/alternate footage television version on the two-disc set - and I'm not even a big enough dork to own ANY of the television episodes.

      Over two thousand dollars and they can't throw in a second copy of the best Trek film evar? What a swindle.

      Man, I think the first Slashdot post I ever made was a complaint that the two-disc set didn't include the original release. What were they thinking? Extended is great. Replacing certain scenes - that I thought were great - with alternate takes, and then not including both versions a la the Terminator 2 DVD, that's lame.
  • by Werrismys (764601) on Monday November 07, 2005 @03:44AM (#13967919)
    It's like CD's in 1994... the sheer amount of data works as a copy protection...
    • PLEASE don't use XVID/DIVX!

      Without the multiple audio tracks it wouldn't be worth the download.

      Ogg/MKV please.
    • Hey, I remember my friends back in the day bragging about pirating a certain groundbreaking FPS game, Arj'ed onto 50 floppy disks... Of course, no CD burners back then.
  • Ironic! (Score:5, Funny)

    by SolitaryMan (538416) on Monday November 07, 2005 @03:45AM (#13967924) Homepage Journal
    When I was reading the article "480-Pound Woman Dies After Six Years On Couch" (second link) I had a "Breakfast Bistro Sandwich" ad on the top of the page. What an irony!
  • by Quirk (36086) on Monday November 07, 2005 @03:47AM (#13967930) Homepage Journal
    Most geeks must have good memories. The amount of info that has to be assimilated and managed is, to say the least, considerable. It follows most geeks would be able to retain a storyline and much attendant material from watching a movie once or maybe twice.

    What makes owning this set of dvds and, presumably, rewatching the material worthwhile?

    The only movies I've watched repeatedly are Casablanca, Apocalypse Now and to a lesser extent Alien and Blade Runner, but I've no idea why I can watch Casablanca and Apocalpse Now over and over. I know the material very nearly by heart, but have no idea what the mechanism is that hooks me in.

    • by Altima(BoB) (602987) on Monday November 07, 2005 @04:02AM (#13967982)
      Maybe because Casablanca is the greatest screenplay yet written (so sayeth Brian Cox as Robert McKee in Adaptation.) It's like saying that the only book you can read again and again is Ulysses and not being sure why. Casablanca is so perfect in formula that there are actually several plot holes of which few people notice, realize or care about. I feel the same way about Lawrence of Arabia, the full cut is four hours long, but I've watched it over a dozen times. It's just that good.

      But... the point of this kind of set is not to see something again and again. Hell, as one person pointed out, if you did one episode a day it would take you two years to finish. And when you've gone through the entire set, hell, there will be a new series on TV by then. After that new series finished, begin rewatching your set, after two years, you'll probably have forgotten most of the episodes. This set is about possessing it, having he capacity to watch ANY given episode on a whim at any given moment. To no longer be the slave of the fickle schedules of TV re-runs. All that jazz. It doesn't have to be Casablanca, very little of it ever comes close. All it has to be is A LOT of Star Trek.
  • by Neeth (887729) on Monday November 07, 2005 @03:49AM (#13967940) Homepage
    Oh wait... Star Trek

    That explains the 212 DVD's too.
  • Hard sell? (Score:3, Funny)

    by Altima(BoB) (602987) on Monday November 07, 2005 @03:51AM (#13967945)
    I'll admit that even a very casual fan like me finds that set rather attractive looking (though its presence in my house would remove any possibility of a date so long as it was visible). However there are a couple problems. I'm too lazy to do the math and see if buying the whole set at once is a bargain at all (I know that some would say the conveniance of having it all at once is worth it anyway.) Another problem is that if someone is hardcore enough of a fan to want all seven seasons of Voyager, well, they probably have it already, like the first user review on Amazon indicated. It is however a nice display of the great treatment Trek has gotten on DVD these last couple years.
  • Soooo.... (Score:3, Funny)

    by TheVoice900 (467327) <kamil@kamilk i s i e l .net> on Monday November 07, 2005 @03:57AM (#13967967) Homepage
    Does anyone have a torrent?

  • by Lifix (791281) on Monday November 07, 2005 @03:58AM (#13967969) Homepage
    This is only worth it if: 1) You are a huge Star Trek Fan (no problem I'm sure these people are out there) 2) You are a fan of 4+ of the serries: It's cheaper to buy any 3 seasons individually + all the movies 3) You aren't already collecting the dvds. Now here is my POV: I am a huge tv on dvd collector but there is a limit to how much I am willing to spend (example: I'm going to pick up the BuffyBox when it comes out, even though I already have the first four seasons.) I am also a fan of all of Star Trek, and would love to pick this up, except for the fact that I bought TNG as it came out, DS9 as it out and voyager as it came out. I'm not saying that this is intended for everyone, infact if they sell more then say, a thousand of them, I will be impressed. Anyway just my $.02 oh and wtf is with Enterprise costing 120+ per season before discounts?
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 07, 2005 @04:03AM (#13967984)
    Ooo, does it have the one where they modify the main deflector, meet a strange new lifeform, and have to make some crucial decision about ethics and/or sexy blue aliens? 'cause I think that's the only episode I missed...
  • LOW PRICE (Score:2, Funny)

    by masterpenguin (878744)
    i love the badge next to the price that says "Low Prices!"

    somehow $2,400 isn't that low of a price to me, given that's half of my car loan.
  • by SecureTheNet (915798) on Monday November 07, 2005 @04:30AM (#13968069) Homepage
    a set of pointy ears!
  • by jbridges (70118) on Monday November 07, 2005 @04:30AM (#13968073)
    According to Amazon, the Animated Star Trek Series will be released on Dec 31st, 1969.

    Star Trek - The Animated Series (1973)
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00005JN6D/002-75 16313-1096059?v=glance&n=130 [amazon.com]

    So find yourself a gateway into the past (and try to avoid saving any sexy pacifists by accident).

  • referal fee (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Celt (125318) on Monday November 07, 2005 @04:36AM (#13968092) Homepage Journal
    I'm curious how much trektoday get if somebody buys that set through their handy referal link in this slashdot story, nice that the editors left the link intact.
    • Re:referal fee (Score:3, Insightful)

      by bfree (113420)

      Would you rather:

      • slashdot.org took the referer fees
      • amazon pocketed the extra cash
      • slashdot doesn't actually edit the submitted story for a change

      Another poster suggests each purchase through that link is worth around $125 btw.

      Perhaps slashdot should setup referer accounts for all the sites it pimps, and then publish and use the revenue to create some form of slash fund, perhaps paying lawyers to fight some of the laws slashdot readers seem to hate so much, or funding development on slash dependencies

  • by fmwap (686598) on Monday November 07, 2005 @04:39AM (#13968103) Journal
    So...it's a very, very boring night at work...
    Here's the tally, this doesn't include any special features, commentaries, or otherwise useless filler:

    ST TOS:
    47 mins, 79 eps, 22 discs, 3,713min = 2days 13hrs 53mins
    ST TNG:
    45 mins, 178 eps, 48 discs, 8,010min = 5days 13hrs 30mins
    ST DS9:
    45 mins, 176 eps, 48 discs, 7,920min = 5days 12hrs
    ST Voyager:
    45 mins, 172 eps, 47 discs, 7,740min = 5days 9hrs
    ST Enterprise:
    42 mins, 98 eps, 27 discs, 4,116min = 2days 20hrs 36mins

    The Motion Picture (Directors Cut): 136mins 2 discs
    The Wrath of Kahn (Directors Cut): 116mins 2 discs
    III: The search for spock: 105mins 2 discs
    IV: The Voyage Home: 119mins 2 discs
    V: The Final Frontier: 107mins 2 discs
    VI: The Undiscovered Contry: 113mins 2 discs
    Generations: 118mins 2 discs
    First Contact: 106mins 2 discs
    Insurrection: 103mins 2 discs
    Nemesis: 116mins 2 discs

    Grand Total (Minus Commentaries, deleted scenes, additional features) :
    212 Discs
    32,638 minutes
    3wks 1day 15hrs 58mins

    References:
    Amazon.com product info [amazon.com]
    IMDB Star Trek search [imdb.com]
  • by Anthrox (678250)
    I'll wait a few years then i'll just buy it on one disc http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_Versatile _Disc/ [wikipedia.org]
    • Bah. By the 24th century, if you want a holographic version you just tell the computer to generate you one, and it'll produce ST:TNG or whatever.

      Rumours that the technology to generate a complete ST episode using only a computer program exists today are, of course, wholly unfounded.

  • Wow. The "You may also be interested in these items..." portion is completely off the mark for this Amazon item.
    Got It.
    Nope, Got that
    Hmm. Got that, too.
    Nope, got it.
    got that one covered. ...
    Shouldn't it be redirecting you to other SF?
  • Above All Co. L74995CN Forearm Forklift Lifting Straps

    Yep, you'll need those to lift the damn thing.

  • For that money you can buy a Netflix account and a DVD (DVD, surround sound, HDTV) home theater which will give you many more viewing options.
    the other story sounds like something from www.fark.com
  • Borg Cube (Score:3, Insightful)

    by E8086 (698978) on Monday November 07, 2005 @07:29AM (#13968549)
    $2500!? Where's the cheap gimmick that makes it worth that much? How about TNG in the Borg Cube box? If I were to get all those individually at deepdvddicsount(dot com) I could get it for about $150 less, or $750 less if I leave out Voyager. Greedy Paramount wants to sell Star Trek at $100 a season, I guess they're going for PROFIT over total sales. SG-1 can be had for $30-40 a season, for those who don't like math, that's 60%-70% less, yes they're only 22eps/season while Star Trek is mostly 26eps, but even that doesn't make it worth the more than doubled price. If you want TNG and DS9 I suggest a cheap, or not so cheap, TV card or even a TiVo and SpikeTV, 2 eps of DS9 and 3 of TNG, you'll have the entire series in a couple weeks.
  • by hrieke (126185) on Monday November 07, 2005 @08:29AM (#13968811) Homepage
    After watching all the DVDs, does William Shatner appear and tell you to "Get A Life"?
  • ultimate? pfah! (Score:3, Informative)

    by option8 (16509) on Monday November 07, 2005 @10:28AM (#13969556) Homepage
    from the editorial review:

    The only omissions from the set are the animated series (1973-75), which as of 2005 was not available on DVD, and the two officially sanctioned fan-focused documentaries, Trekkies and Trekkies 2. So perhaps The Ultimate Star Trek Collection isn't quite as ultimate as it could be...

    'nuff said.

    • For whatever its worth (not much to most people, I guess), the animated series was released some years back as a boxed set of Laserdiscs. You remember Laserdiscs, right? They were just as good as DVDs in most respects, only bigger. And yes, I have the discs, I just don't have a working LD player at the moment.

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