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The Ultimate Star Trek Collection 414

roelbj writes "For those Star Trek fans wondering what to ask for this Christmas, you may wish to consider The Ultimate Star Trek Collection to be released on November 15. For just (cough) $2499.99, you'll get 212, count them, 212 DVDs with everything ever produced under the name, including all seasons of all five telvision series as well as the ten feature films. Before loading up your disc changer and hitting play, remember to get up once in a while."
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The Ultimate Star Trek Collection

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  • Really... (Score:2, Insightful)

    by bl4nk ( 607569 ) on Monday November 07, 2005 @04:38AM (#13967897)
    It was only a matter of time. :)
  • No way (Score:5, Insightful)

    by JudgeFurious ( 455868 ) on Monday November 07, 2005 @04:40AM (#13967907)
    I love Star Trek, hell I grew up watching it. I even love bad Star Trek. I can't justify spending $100+ per season on it though and I never will. Paramount needs to put the crack pipe down and get those seasons in the $49-$59 range. It's not worth what they're asking. At $49 bucks a season I'd probably own most of it by now.
  • worth it? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by fredistheking ( 464407 ) on Monday November 07, 2005 @04:41AM (#13967908)
    Seeing that you will be paying more than $10 a disc is this worth it? Shouldn't you get some kind of discount for getting so many discs?

    Wait until it's at least 30% off.
  • by ReformedExCon ( 897248 ) <reformed.excon@gmail.com> on Monday November 07, 2005 @04:42AM (#13967914)
    Haha! Let's make fun of sick people!

    It was completely irrelevant to the topic at hand and serves no purpose but to make light of a seriously ill person (who subsequently died).

    There's something sickening here, and it's the editors' lack of respect for others and journalistic integrity.
  • by ErMaC ( 131019 ) <ermac.ermacstudios@org> on Monday November 07, 2005 @04:42AM (#13967915) Homepage
    It's missing The Animated Adventures [wikipedia.org], which Paramount has said they plan on releasing on DVD at some point next year.

    And I think it's sad that of the Star Trek stories to be posted, this makes the front page where as the passing of Michael Piller [startrek.com] doesn't.
  • Re:No figurines (Score:2, Insightful)

    by ElectricBrain ( 452147 ) on Monday November 07, 2005 @04:47AM (#13967932)
    Don't forget about all the novels and cartoons.
  • by myspys ( 204685 ) on Monday November 07, 2005 @04:49AM (#13967938) Homepage
    Or maybe there's a problem with your lack of humor?

    (yes, this is a bit of a troll, but hey, it's monday morning)
  • Re:No way (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Fallingcow ( 213461 ) on Monday November 07, 2005 @04:50AM (#13967943) Homepage
    On the other hand, downloading it is not an option for those who want it now

    Yeah, just those who want it in a week or so.

    Like, the time it would take for a purchased set to be delivered.
  • Re:No way (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Fallingcow ( 213461 ) on Monday November 07, 2005 @04:55AM (#13967957) Homepage
    Agreed.

    I was so happy when they announced that DS9 was finally coming out on DVD. I hadn't even looked at any of the others, as I wasn't interested (though I've since come to enjoy the original series). It came out, and I was TOTALLY ready to fork out $40 for each season. They might even have gotten $50 or so out of me.

    They were something like $110 the first time I saw them. WTF? Those bastards can go to hell. Now I'm so pissed off at them that I'll likely never buy the seasons at all.

    It was the same thing with the X-Files. I don't know if it's changed, but it was about $100 when it came out. Totally crazy.
  • by Altima(BoB) ( 602987 ) on Monday November 07, 2005 @05:02AM (#13967982)
    Maybe because Casablanca is the greatest screenplay yet written (so sayeth Brian Cox as Robert McKee in Adaptation.) It's like saying that the only book you can read again and again is Ulysses and not being sure why. Casablanca is so perfect in formula that there are actually several plot holes of which few people notice, realize or care about. I feel the same way about Lawrence of Arabia, the full cut is four hours long, but I've watched it over a dozen times. It's just that good.

    But... the point of this kind of set is not to see something again and again. Hell, as one person pointed out, if you did one episode a day it would take you two years to finish. And when you've gone through the entire set, hell, there will be a new series on TV by then. After that new series finished, begin rewatching your set, after two years, you'll probably have forgotten most of the episodes. This set is about possessing it, having he capacity to watch ANY given episode on a whim at any given moment. To no longer be the slave of the fickle schedules of TV re-runs. All that jazz. It doesn't have to be Casablanca, very little of it ever comes close. All it has to be is A LOT of Star Trek.
  • Re:worth it? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by fredistheking ( 464407 ) on Monday November 07, 2005 @05:10AM (#13968004)
    So wait a little longer =)

    Seriously, who would pay this kind of money? There are the select few but I doubt their numbers are enough to keep this from getting clearanced at some point.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 07, 2005 @05:14AM (#13968014)
    Perhaps it is this mentality that obesity is some kind of external force acting upon a person that is leading Americans to become so incredibly fat. As long as you can keep denying responsibility for your own disgusting, highly irresponsible and self-destructive lifestyles, the problem will just keep getting worse.

    She was not 'sick', she was a typical member of the parasitic consumer society in which she lives, consuming what the rest of the world produces until they (literally) keel over and die.

    Posted anonymously to avoid being modded as a troll ... people don't like hearing the truth.
  • by Golias ( 176380 ) on Monday November 07, 2005 @05:32AM (#13968075)
    She was not 'sick', she was a typical member of the parasitic consumer society in which she lives

    Okay, look. A 4'10" woman hits 250 pounds, it's conceivable that she just doesn't get to the gym and maybe likes her bon-bons a little too much, but this woman was way over 400 pounds. You don't just get like that from Twinkies and soap operas. Clearly there had to have been some kind of nasty metabolic problem involved. Could she have maybe fended off such a syndrome with an active lifestyle? Perhaps, but for all we know the same forces which were making her prone to obesity were also sapping her will to do much about it. Once that woman reached the point that she spent an entire day or two on that couch, somebody should have addressed the problem with both medical and psychiatric care. Six years of just sitting there? Unable to even get up for the bathroom??? That ain't right.

    By the way (only slightly off the topic)... It's easy for somebody who never struggled with their weight to accuse fat people of some moral shortcoming, never mind that they themselves don't always lead perfectly healthy lives either. I know plenty of rail-thin people who couldn't run to the end of the block and back, while I know other people who are overweight yet can easily run five miles and enjoy it. Body shape may be a very visible metric of whether somebody is in good physical condition or not, and whether they have a good sense of discipline about taking care of themselves... but it's far from the most accurate indicator.
  • by rootedgimp ( 523254 ) on Monday November 07, 2005 @05:51AM (#13968123)
    She was not 'sick', she was a typical member of the parasitic consumer society in which she lives, consuming what the rest of the world produces until they (literally) keel over and die.
    Uh, if that isn't 'sick', what is? Something you can see wiggling around under a microscope? The variation you described does indeed constitute sickness, and I'd say we can at least agree millions of Americans fall into its catagory. As you said, she was a 'typical member of...' -- just because it's commonplace, doesn't mean it isn't 'sick'.

    Posted anonymously to avoid being modded as a troll ... people don't like hearing the truth.


    No, actually you posted AC because you know your opinion is wrong, although you are entitled to it. If you look at all the replys to this "Was the link necessary" post, you will notice a strange phenomenon, all 5 of your type posted AC, only 1 posted such under his account. I don't call that watching your mod point karma, I call that being ashamed of your view, which you should be, the sad part is you don't know why you are ashamed of your view, so you try to justify it by your ability to proclaim yourself above it.
  • by cybpunks3 ( 612218 ) on Monday November 07, 2005 @06:45AM (#13968265)
    Enterprise also seems to contradict a lot of canon (Robert April was supposed to be the first captain of the Enterprise, as shown on TAS, BTW). TNG+ series dispensed with TOS canon whenever they felt like it.

  • by notany ( 528696 ) on Monday November 07, 2005 @06:45AM (#13968266) Journal
    The link was OK. I understand that some people live in the land of Political Correctness where anything remotely fundamental like sickness, death or god can not be made fun of. Sorry about that. But we others like to do so. Why?
    Because the laugh enables us to handle difficult questions of life. Laugh reveals the empty rhetoric we use to cocoon death and sickness. Laugh goes against what authorities want you to believe. Laugh is serious matter.
  • by GraemeDonaldson ( 826049 ) <graeme&donaldson,za,net> on Monday November 07, 2005 @07:40AM (#13968416) Homepage
    5. Voyager.
    6. Enterprise.

    :-)
  • by un1xl0ser ( 575642 ) on Monday November 07, 2005 @07:45AM (#13968433)
    PLEASE don't use XVID/DIVX!

    Without the multiple audio tracks it wouldn't be worth the download.

    Ogg/MKV please.
  • Borg Cube (Score:3, Insightful)

    by E8086 ( 698978 ) on Monday November 07, 2005 @08:29AM (#13968549)
    $2500!? Where's the cheap gimmick that makes it worth that much? How about TNG in the Borg Cube box? If I were to get all those individually at deepdvddicsount(dot com) I could get it for about $150 less, or $750 less if I leave out Voyager. Greedy Paramount wants to sell Star Trek at $100 a season, I guess they're going for PROFIT over total sales. SG-1 can be had for $30-40 a season, for those who don't like math, that's 60%-70% less, yes they're only 22eps/season while Star Trek is mostly 26eps, but even that doesn't make it worth the more than doubled price. If you want TNG and DS9 I suggest a cheap, or not so cheap, TV card or even a TiVo and SpikeTV, 2 eps of DS9 and 3 of TNG, you'll have the entire series in a couple weeks.
  • Re:No way (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Brave Guy ( 457657 ) on Monday November 07, 2005 @08:50AM (#13968610)
    The truth is, if they cut the price in half, they would likely sell more than double what they are now.

    The thing is, that's almost certainly not true, because their marketing people almost certainly did some trials on what people would be prepared to pay and picked the sweet spot that maximises their income. As much as I'd like to believe what you wrote, and see various over-priced sci-fi DVDs brought down to the same level as everything else, I can believe that in the case of ST there are enough super-geeks willing to pay almost any price that the "normal" fans are not the deciding factor here.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 07, 2005 @09:27AM (#13968806)
    I'm hoping that you're posting this in a confused attempt to make an opposite argument by some sort of reductio ad absurdum. If not, you have obviously never experienced severe mental illness. It can break down your will to do anything - all the way up to your desire to live. If one doesn't wish to live, it's very hard to pull together the necessary energy to actively seek out help - especially if one doesn't even want to get better - and yes, mental illness can and does cause this. Telling someone who is severely depressed, for example, that they should pull themselves together, get to the doctor, and work out a treatment plan is somewhat analogous to telling a cancer patient that they should really work on bringing down the size of that tumor; in both cases you're telling someone to do something they don't have the tools to do because of the very nature of their disease. I sincerely hope you never have to find out what this is like.
  • by notnAP ( 846325 ) on Monday November 07, 2005 @10:51AM (#13969297)
    No the link was not at all necessary in a journalistic sense. But my guess, looking at the post in its entirety, is that the link was absolutely necessary for other reasons.

    Consider that the post as a whole has an accusatory tone. To my eyes, it smacks of What kind of person, after all, would feel the need to buy this collection and at this price?

    If indeed I am not reading too much between roelbj's well thought out prose, then the Hey look at the fat person link is not at all out of place. Indeed, it becomes not only on-topic, but also necessary to further the point of We're not like them. by forwarding what is obviously in his minds another example of a subgroup he wants to publicly separate himself from.

    Furthermore, one can read into roelbj's inclusion of the link a need to connect with his reader through a mutual separation from suspect subgroups. Could the need to drive home the point We're not like them been a subconscious justification of the inclusion of the fat person post? And if so, from whence the need to emphasize commonality with others? Is that connection somehow lacking in roelbj's life? Hey look everybody... let's all do something together! Please?becomes a search for a link that nearly everyone would surely look upon in the same light as he, and the need for contact is fulfilled.


    In the interests of full disclosure... Yes, I struggle with my weight, but no am not presently nor have I ever been bonded with my sofa. I also have a nagging, hard-to-let-go-of belief in journalism, and that even Slashdot may someday climb one more rung on the ladder up towards a journalistic ideal.

  • by greg_barton ( 5551 ) <greg_barton@yaho ... minus herbivore> on Monday November 07, 2005 @11:14AM (#13969459) Homepage Journal
    Posted anonymously to avoid being modded as a troll ...

    I love it. You post about personal responsibility, then refuse to be held personally responsible for the comment. Classic!
  • Re:referal fee (Score:3, Insightful)

    by bfree ( 113420 ) on Monday November 07, 2005 @11:19AM (#13969499)

    Would you rather:

    • slashdot.org took the referer fees
    • amazon pocketed the extra cash
    • slashdot doesn't actually edit the submitted story for a change
    Another poster suggests each purchase through that link is worth around $125 btw.

    Perhaps slashdot should setup referer accounts for all the sites it pimps, and then publish and use the revenue to create some form of slash fund, perhaps paying lawyers to fight some of the laws slashdot readers seem to hate so much, or funding development on slash dependencies or ...

  • by joerdie ( 816174 ) on Monday November 07, 2005 @11:55AM (#13969776)
    I dont think that 32 cents an episode for a good t.v. show is too much to ask. Is it expensive? Yes! Is this better than watching the garbage on today? Yes!! !!Golly Geepers!!
  • by Retric ( 704075 ) on Monday November 07, 2005 @12:08PM (#13969870)
    Even fat cells need energy. An extra 200lb's needs over 1000 calories each and every day to keep the cells alive. So if somone only eat's 1200 calories there is no way for them to get that fat. (And yes people can make it on 1200 calories they get extreamly thin but by doing so there are less cells to keep alive which help balance that out.)
  • Re:No figurines (Score:2, Insightful)

    by confu2000 ( 245635 ) on Monday November 07, 2005 @12:22PM (#13969981)
    This doesn't appear to be anything more than amazon bundling the existing box sets. And here's a kicker. If you buy the box sets from amazon separately, it's only $2755. The Voyager box set is $810 with no discounts currently. So if you really wanted everything except Voyager, it woudl only run you $1945.
  • by Darth23 ( 720385 ) on Monday November 07, 2005 @12:48PM (#13970182) Journal
    Just beaucse DS9 was based on a space station doesn't mean they didn't 'trek' through the wormhole to explore the Gamma Quadrant.

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