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New Stargate Series In the Works 294

Posted by CowboyNeal
from the on-the-horizon dept.
Skythe writes "Gateworld reports that an exclusive, third Stargate series is in the works: 'The new series is in the concept phase, and is being actively worked on by the Vancouver creatives behind Stargate SG-1 and Stargate Atlantis. No concept for the show has yet been revealed.' Gateworld also reports despite the cancellation of SG-1, the series is likely for a 2007 debut. I wonder if the direct-to-dvd movies will any influence on the new series, and what the concept behind the show will be?"
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New Stargate Series In the Works

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  • New Series (Score:4, Funny)

    by nametaken (610866) on Friday December 15, 2006 @01:50AM (#17250694)
    ...oh thank god.
  • I'm all for it! (Score:4, Insightful)

    by cashman73 (855518) on Friday December 15, 2006 @01:51AM (#17250706) Journal
    . . . as long as it doesn't involve either (a) a prequel to Stargate SG-1, (b) aliens with big, floppy ears and a jamaican accent, (c) weird time travel/space-time continuum plot lines, or (d) William Shatner!
    • by Kethinov (636034)
      How about an explanation for why all the human cultures and aliens across three galaxies all speak English? I'd sure like to know...
      • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

        by Jello B. (950817)
        Babel fish! Wait...Wrong story...
      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        by LiquidEdge (774076)
        ummm....probably because if they spoke a different language, you might not understand what they're saying, which doesn't make for good television.
      • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

        by TrueKonrads (580974)
        In one of the replies by crew of SG(A|-1), they said, that it was impractical, due to schedule for the actors to learn "stargate klingon". Besides, it would require heavy use of subtitling which a lot of people dislike. There is no "in-game" explanation for this.
        • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

          by jaweekes (938376)
          I would like them to take a page from "The Hunt for Red October" and have them speak the first few lines in another language, and then switch to English. You still understand them but you also get the point that they talk another language.
        • Maybe the gate acts like the TARDIS, and emits a telepathic field that automatically translates the native language into the native language of the traveler and vic versa.

          Of course, the gate can only translate verbal language and not written language like the TARDIS. That is a result of the Ancients not being as technologically advanced as the Time Lords.

          That being said, I think the Doctor needs to get to the Pegasus Galaxy asap. They seem to have ZPM's and sense the Eye of Harmony doesn't work anymo
    • by wo1verin3 (473094) on Friday December 15, 2006 @05:05AM (#17252012) Homepage
      >> or (d) William Shatner!

      Next, on Stargate 9-1-1.
    • by mrmeval (662166)
      Oh wow, how could they ever do a prequel? ...flash forward 10 years *MY EYES BLEED*

      What I want to see? Hrm, more of the stargate tech available publicly, at least some of the medical, the rapid construction and the transportation tech. Making the world smaller requires the ability to transport people and goods much faster and much cheaper but we need better and wider medical care to cure regional diseases fast.

      Time travel stuff is so beat to death by bad writing that it's now not possible to overcome it. I
    • Denny Crane.
  • Then frankly I wont care too much what the show concept is, it will be watched regardless.
  • Hey! (Score:5, Funny)

    by Mullen (14656) on Friday December 15, 2006 @01:54AM (#17250722)
    You know, they should totally make a Stargate movie! That would be awesome!
    • No joke! (Score:4, Interesting)

      by denebian devil (944045) on Friday December 15, 2006 @02:54AM (#17251230)
      I've heard that they may try to simultaneously (or at least in scarily close succession) make a spinoff movie for SG1 and make a sequel to the original movie... as if they were two completely separate things. Which, if you look at the turns that SG1 has made, isn't too far from the truth.
  • ...it is better than Atlantis, even at this stage of its lifespan. The third series better be darn good. Fridays are now totally boring on tv, save for discovery channel.
    • Didn't we learn this lesson with Futurama vs. The Simpsons?
    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by messerman (446251)

      ...it is better than Atlantis, even at this stage of its lifespan. The third series better be darn good. Fridays are now totally boring on tv, save for discovery channel.
      You're not watching Doctor Who then, obviously.
      • by pembo13 (770295)
        No, I hear it's good....just have never really given it a chance.
      • You're not watching Doctor Who then, obviously.

        The show where the first bad guy (of this version) was a bunch of mannequins coming to life? That would be a no.
        • by Jaruzel (804522)
          That was a nod to 'classic' Who. It had to be done to keep the fanbois (and grrls) happy.

          Later on it got much much betterer.

          Jury is still out on Torchwood tho...

          -Jar.

      • by big tex (15917)
        Or Battlestar Galactica, either.
    • by Kethinov (636034)
      Are you kidding? Your suspension of disbelief threshold must be high, because my bullshit meter gets set off by the "everyone inexplicably speaks English" problem, personally. The Star Treks were all way better shows than Stargate. Hell even Babylon 5 and Farscape are more consistent and believable than Stargate. Throw in BSG and Firefly and Stargate comes across as third rate.
    • by SamSim (630795)
      The third series better be darn good.

      Fourth series [imdb.com], I think you'll find.

  • Why don't they just acknowledge that SG1 is essentially a new Stargate series and just keep it going?
    • by kimvette (919543)
      Because you have the fanbois whining about how O'Neill is better than Mitchell, that Mitchell is a wuss, that they should rename the show to "Fargate," and so forth. Is there an analog to the Star Trek fanbois, you know, a slur similar to "Trekkie?"
      • Re:Come ON already (Score:4, Insightful)

        by Jethro (14165) on Friday December 15, 2006 @02:13AM (#17250900) Homepage
        But that's exactly what I'm saying they should do - rename it Stargate:The Uncharted Territories or whatever the hell and just keep going like we were before. Why invent a 3rd series when we practically already had one?
        • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

          by Darthmalt (775250)
          What about Stargate SG1 The new class.

          But you are right it may as well be a new series as much as the cast and focus of the show has changed. I still really like the show but it has changed quite a bit in the past few seasons. After all how many plot lines can you have with the G'ould being the only real enemies. They also have / had the replicators but they are too static as character group to be of interest for too long.
          • Re:Come ON already (Score:5, Insightful)

            by Jesus_666 (702802) on Friday December 15, 2006 @03:31AM (#17251498)
            Note: I'm from Germany and we're just getting the ninth season, so for me the Ori are still pretty new and fresh. But I'm already getting tired of it. Gone are the daays of exploring the galaxy in order to find new technology to defend Earth - now we have huge-ass warships and pretty much everyone who can hold a gun is our friend. And the Ori are so ridiculously overpowered that suspension of disbelief is getting hard; after all they could easily win by sending priors with planet-devastating powers to Earth and a couple other important planets. It's essentially a battle between godmoders.

            If the show keeps going on like this it's no wonder it didn't survive. As much as I like SG-1, it's too similar to Dragonball Z for comfort.
          • by pembo13 (770295)
            You raise a good point. I still really like the series. But it has changed so much so that I just don't compare the current team to the original team.
      • by Jaruzel (804522)
        Is there an analog to the Star Trek fanbois, you know, a slur similar to "Trekkie?"
        • Gaties ?
        • Starbies ?
        • SG-oners ?
        -Jar.

  • I, for one, (Score:4, Insightful)

    by kimvette (919543) on Friday December 15, 2006 @02:03AM (#17250794) Homepage Journal
    I, for one, welcome our new inter-dimensional overlords. Or something.

    Given the production quality of SG-1 and Atlantis, I'm looking forward to any new Stargate series that comes out. :) I'm kind of disappointed about the alleged "stargate universe" reboot in the rumored sequel, considering that SG-1 picked up fairly nicely from where the original movie left off. It should be entertaining, in any event.
    • by loraksus (171574) on Friday December 15, 2006 @02:07AM (#17250832) Homepage
      Assuming you even see it... SciFi will probably just end up bumping it with a crappy wrestling show...
    • It's got the inevitable inconsistencies, mostly with the movie. I don't even want to guess at physics problem.

      This is a good thing, and I like the show the way it is -- I like that Daniel Jackson doesn't have to spend the first half hour of every show cracking a new alien language -- but still, it might be good to officially reboot it.
      • How you mock me.

        That should be:

        I don't even want to guess at inconsistencies in the physics, seeing as they seem to grab anything you ever hear that sounds physicsy, especially if it has words like "quantum" or "dark matter", and include it in some random alien technology.
      • by p0tat03 (985078) on Friday December 15, 2006 @03:35AM (#17251520)

        IMHO the series is in dire need of a reboot, which is why I find myself enjoying Atlantis more than SG1. With a show like SG1 it's far too easy to rely on prior-knowledge and previous episodes, which rewards long-time fans but make the show increasingly unapproachable by new viewers. Since the show isn't gaining many fans, it experiences a net loss of viewers until it inevitably starves itself out and gets canned.

        With Atlantis character development has to be pushed, enemies are still fresh, mysterious, and menacing. Part of the thing with the Goa'uld at the beginning was how little we knew about them. We didn't know their customs, we didn't know too much about their physiology, and we certainly had no idea how to beat them. Part of the problem right now is that they've killed off all the bad guys, necessitating the need to create ever more powerful bad guys - and now we're literally fighting gods. The show's also drifted away from the Stargate-y roots. I enjoyed episodes where the gate would meet strange new enemies through the gate, not... by going to hyperspace and waging intergalactic war in ginormous battlecruisers. Please. Leave that to Star Trek.

        • by pembo13 (770295)
          Then do what I did...watch all the old episodes. We are in the 21st centrury dude, that's a poor excuse.
        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          by NoTheory (580275)
          Actually, one of the things that i found interesting was having the terran military develop technology that let them actually compete with the alien species surrounding them. This could have been really fascinating, but they developed so quickly, and with so little effort, that it really wasn't that interesting. I think they missed a huge opportunity there. The ground they covered though is fascinating, SG-1 went from running around on foot, and having to flee or leave behind anything they couldn't carry
  • can someone rate it for me? say, on a scale between 1 (farscape) and 10 (the new battlestar)?
    • by nmb3000 (741169) <nmb3000@that-google-mail-site.com> on Friday December 15, 2006 @02:28AM (#17251030) Homepage Journal
      can someone rate it for me? say, on a scale between 1 (farscape) and 10 (the new battlestar)?

      I would have thought 1 would be where Voyager sits? :)

      I'd have to put it at 9.5 or 10, simply because I enjoy it as much as BSG.

      The thing with Stargate is that just like BSG (Black Market), it has a few episodes that just aren't that great (The Light). Also shared with BSG, it's *much* better if you know the backstory and have been watching the show instead of trying to just jump right in (though there are episodes where this would be fine).

      I've watched SG-1 since it first aired in 1997 and can say that I've enjoyed it. Overall it's been quite good and it has had some stellar episodes. Atlantis struggled the first season, but has gotten better over time and I'm looking forward to the rest of the 3rd season.
    • by sco08y (615665)
      I'd give it around a 7, about the same as Next Generation after it started getting good.

      The story is engaging, the acting is very good by American standards, and the characters are well developed. Quite often the science aspect of it is outstanding.

      Downsides: the plots are often too neatly resolved (e.g. turning someone into an alien and then back again with no ill effects) and it has the same problem Deep Space Nine did in that everything revolves around the stargate. And it never builds the dramatic inten
    • by Kethinov (636034)
      I rank Sci Fi shows thusly:

      1. BSG (2003)
      Utterly amazing.

      2. Star Trek DS9
      Similarly utterly amazing.

      3. Star Trek TNG and Star Trek Voyager (tied)
      Damn cool.

      4. Firefly
      Great, but canceled too early.

      5. Farscape
      Great, but canceled too early.

      6. Star Trek Enterprise
      Good, but could have been as awesome as DS9 had it not been canceled so early.

      7. Star Trek TOS
      Decent, great for its time, some episodes are pretty timeless.

      8. Babylon 5
      Lots of potential drowns under bad writing. Too many monologues. Wooden characters. Onl
  • Sci-fi can be any genre now - western (serenity), brooding drama (Battlestar Galactica), kids' show with puppets (all those Anakin movies.) Will the new incarnation have the same horrible acting that the old ones did - the sci fi equivalent of the poorly-scripted comedy that came on at 730 before the real thing came on at 8? Dear Sci Fi Channel producers: you CAN have a show that's good, and also not have it compete with your flagship Galactica. Please hire some actors / writers who can do more than mak
  • by Frosty Piss (770223) on Friday December 15, 2006 @02:37AM (#17251110)
    Stargate Enterprise
    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by Hektor_Troy (262592)
      Sir... we can't call it the "Enterprise"
      • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

        by bheer (633842)
        OT, but in case anyone listens to Ron Moore's BSG podcasts, you'll be astonished at how many times he's called the Galactica the 'Enterprise' so far.

    • by Cylix (55374)
      I like Starscape better....

      I must admit, I was completely giddy during the 200th episode when they did the Farscape scene.

      Good times...
    • So: Carter wears absurdly tight clothing, but we have to see O'Neill tear his shirt every episode. Hmm...
  • A routine expedition reveals what is clearly a one-way gateway of some kind (not necessarily a "Gate") to some faraway lost city-spaceship, perhaps not even in our universe proper, that promises vast new technologies, power sources, and weapons. But what really sets this apart from all the other floating tech/power/weapon depots is the promise that maybe, just maybe, this long lost depot will also including an automated schooling system so that we can actually use the fantastical powers within.

    Immediately u
    • by Kjella (173770)
      I'm not sure Stargate needs a full re-boot in the comic book or the "Enterprise" sense, but they need to sit down and rethink what they want to be about:

      They need a reboot, but I don't think they ought to go down the "prequel" route, or the time traveler route. I mean, you'll have a showdown between the Ancients and Ori somehow, because the only thing keeping the Ori from wiping out mankind is the Ancients, ref. "when the wraith ships came, I reached out with my mind and with a single thought destroyed them
    • by Tony Hoyle (11698)
      Aren't they doing that a bit with the lucian alliance war?

      They're bringing in an effectively human enemy who has some idea of actually using military tactics (the gould just lost because they were stupid - they never guarded the gates, never had CCTV, etc.). The Ori were a mistake IMO - made for a good series ending but where do they go from here? You can't beat them - you can't even meaningfully fight them... the only storyline that would make any sense at all would be to drag the Ancients into the war a
  • SG-2.0

    Every week they travel to unimaginable worlds, meet (and kill) new people, then write about it on their SG blogs ...

    Wake me if Claudia Black shows up.

  • by Schraegstrichpunkt (931443) on Friday December 15, 2006 @03:00AM (#17251284) Homepage

    Can we please please please not have another jarring character like McKay like in Stargate: Atlantis? Not only is he completely over-the-top antisocial, but he seems to make everyone around him lose any sense of tact that they might otherwise have had.

    And that formula of having McKay/Carter start explaining the technical details of something, only to be interrupted by the superior officer who doesn't understand the jargon, is getting very very tired. Please kill it.

    • You're right about the annoying tech explanations, but McKay's the only joke vehicle on the show. Maybe he could just get a head injury and go retarded. Then he can be joke-fuel and not be the ridiculous tech-God device anymore.
    • by Bo'Bob'O (95398) on Friday December 15, 2006 @04:10AM (#17251730)
      McKay has been one of the few SG characters that have shown any sort of development, having to learn to BE social, respect other people, work as part of a team both in the field and in the lab. Carter on the other hand, seems some sort of super human, is almost exactly the same as she was when the series started, and is about the most boring character on the show.

      Yes, the technical mumbo-jumbo thing is irritating, but thats simply a sign of bad writing. It's a plot device or easy deis ex machena that they try and legitimize, but they are by far not the only show to be guilty of it.

      I'd by far rather see an end to the lame warrior-types, I've seen more character depth from pre-gen D&D character sheets.
    • by JohnFluxx (413620)
      Haha, I love McKay. He's thinks everyone around him is stupid in comparison to him. And frankly, he's right.

      If I was as smart as him, I'd turn out the same way. Cynical about everyone else.
      • Being cynical is one thing. Being as antisocial as he is only results in being marginalized. And then there's his tendency for saying "it will never work" when it really will. It's poor writing all the way around.
        • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

          by JohnFluxx (413620)
          Hmm, he's anti-social because nobody listens to him and yet he's usually right. I don't remember when he said something won't work then it does though. I only remember one episode where he was really wrong and that was the one where he nearly destroys the galaxy.

          Especially in the first season though he says something, nobody listens to him, then he turns out to be right.
  • by kellererik (307956) on Friday December 15, 2006 @03:16AM (#17251388)
    Seriously, of all the villains, he is the one I really like. OK, doesn't have to be the early years, I want to see Cliff Simon playing the character. But showing the other side of the fence could be interesting.

    IMHO, of course.
  • During the ten seasons, the SG1 team has managed to piss off a lot of people, both on Earth and other places, and I don't mean just the Goa'uld. There's enough loose ends out there to weave together to create a practical united foe against SGC/Earth. For instance, what if someone survived from Euronda, joined up with some guys (The Trust or not - it would be interesting for us to find out what schisms happened within the NID/Trust/etc) who had become stranded off earth when using the second gate (i.e. we fi
  • Gateworld reports that an exclusive, third Stargate series is in the works

    In what way is it exclusive? Perhaps it excludes plot, character development, and good writing?

    The new series is in the concept phase

    OK...

    and is being actively worked on by the Vancouver creatives behind Stargate SG-1 and Stargate Atlantis

    Stop. Back up. What the hell is a "creative"? In my dictionary that's an adjective, not a noun. Nounizing adjectives is almost as bad as verbifying nouns...

    No concept for the show

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by 1u3hr (530656)
      Gateworld reports that an exclusive, third Stargate series is in the works
      In what way is it exclusive? Perhaps it excludes plot, character development, and good writing?

      It just means that the dipshit who submitted it took the headline of TFA "Exclusive: Third Stargate series in development" and mangled it into his summary without apparently understanding the journalistic meaning of "exclusive".

  • So I wonder where they will base their operations. At Stargate Command? They already have a series in production which was supposed to be different to SG1. Will this new series be cut off from Earth again or will they operate from Earth HQ?
    • I forgot to add. This isn't like Star Trek either where they have huge resources so the show can be based anywhere, like DS9 or VOY and stay believable. On the upside, if they do base it from earth, they get to keep the current sets, the show will be cheaper to produce won't it? You'll also keep the base Commander that keeps appearing in Atlantis as well.
      • by vidarh (309115)
        They could easily skip into a future when they do have huge resources. It would fit in with the technological advances shown in SG1, leading to their own ships with hyperdrive etc.
  • Or some other type of series, based on the same idea of the Stargate but happening "back then when Goa'uld ruled the planets, and did the infighting, and were getting Jaffa to turn into their servants" and so on and so forth? Like Xena in Space with Goa'uld?
    Because most of other "reboots" would be more like a soft reset with similar crews and directions :)
  • Actually, I always thought a spin-off of Stargate based on the campy "Wormhole Xtreme" series used in the show could offer some interesting possibilities. Granted it might only last a season at most, but Sci-Fi could easily polish it up to something on the level of their cheesy low-budget movies they show every couple weeks.

    For example, instead using of a military trained crew, they could have a completely random set of civilians who accidentally become unwitting participants, ala Sliders, where they have t
  • by the real darkskye (723822) on Friday December 15, 2006 @08:21AM (#17253194) Homepage
    and its called ...

    CSI: Cheyenne
  • The Premise (Score:5, Funny)

    by rlp (11898) on Friday December 15, 2006 @09:15AM (#17253584)
    The Stargate team encounters a powerful new enemy known as the 'Cylons'. When things start to look bleak for Earth, they are aided by a mysterious space / time traveler in a British police box.
  • by X86Daddy (446356) on Friday December 15, 2006 @10:41AM (#17254772) Journal
    It may have been unwatchable children's drek, but there was an animated Stargate: Infinity [tv.com] as well as the current two shows.
  • by supabeast! (84658) on Friday December 15, 2006 @11:03AM (#17255162)
    ...and what the concept behind the show will be?

    I'm guessing it will involve a bunch of Air Force nerds who travel through a magic gate to other planets which all oddly resemble either California or British Coloumbia, and once there, do whatever the Star Trek crew did in whatever episode of Star Trek the script for this particular episode of the new Stargate was lifted from. And they'll throw in a popular nerd or two from some other nerdy show to ensure that nerds bother to watch.

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