Captain America Dead at 66 327
jas_public writes to mention ABC news is reporting that comic book super hero Captain America has apparently tackled his last mission. "It ends a long run for the stars-and-stripes-wearing character, created in 1941 to incarnate patriotic feeling during World War II. Over the years, an estimated 210 million copies of "Captain America" comic books, published by New York-based Marvel Entertainment Inc., have been sold in a total of 75 countries. But resurrections are not unknown in the world of comics, and Marvel Entertainment editor in chief Joe Quesada said a Captain America comeback wasn't impossible."
Dead at 66? (Score:4, Informative)
According to the Captain America Wikipedia page [wikipedia.org] (far more in depth than the encyclopedia britannica page I might add!), Steve Rogers was born on July 4, 1917 in the Lower East Side of Manhattan, New York City, to Irish immigrants Sarah and Joseph Rogers.
Anyway, lets hope this original & innovative storyline is as lucrative as the "death of Superman" thing DC ran a while back.
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Re:Dead at 66? (Score:5, Funny)
Damn it! Really?
Next you're going to be telling me the Super soldier serum isn't real either
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I agree that this sounds suspiciously like an attempt to temporarily 'kill' a major character to boost sales. I just hope that his ressurection is better thought out than Spock's.
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followed up by "Zero Hour" and "Infinite Crisis"
Give it a couple more decades and we will also probably get:
* Infinite Zero Hour * Zero Crisis Infinity * Earth Hour Zero * Crisis on Zero Earths
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Military [joevialls.co.uk]
Sexual [aztlan.net]
Harassment [msn.com]
Prevention [bbc.co.uk]
Program [guardian.co.uk]
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I, like you, preferred Marvel over DC. Though I've been out of comics for several decades now, from time to time, I do dip back in. It is clear to me that Marvel today is where DC was.
Marvel's characters are getting old and stale at a time when DC seems to be invigorating their characters with new life. Hell, they even had me reading Green Lantern again despite bringing Hal Jordan back. (Hey, DC ASS-HOLES! Bring back Barry Allen! And you can forget that shit about Iris Allen being from th
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Agreed. As a former Marvel Zombie myself, It's actually a bit of a shock to finding DC's stuff a lot more interesting and cutting-edge (well, as cutting edge as one of the major publishers can be, at any rate.)
Further, the current Marvel "Civil War" storyline was worse than bad. Despite a few interesting subplots, the whole thing's been a dull and plodding affair, which is weird, as Marvel used to be pretty good when it came to major crossovers li
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I call Shenanigans (Score:2)
I used to be a massive comics reader up until the late 80's when I quit reading all together. What did it? It was the combined fiascos of the Marvel crossover series Inferno [wikipedia.org] where some a$$wipe decided to unwind the entire history of Kitty Pride and Illiana (Cyclops little sister) with an "oops, it was all a group hallucination? Or was
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I'm calling it bullshit! Capt. America will be back from the dead just as soon as it econmically explotable. It really hacked me off when they brought back Jean Grey too. I actually tossed the comic book in the trash and canceled all my subscriptions. Fucking bastards. Jean Grey's story line and death was one of the best I read.
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Yeah - that and Batman: A Death in the Family was one of my favourites.
Watching Robin die was actually kind of satisfying.
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That was why I was so pissed off. Jean Grey's death, to me, was the most perfect death of a major super hero. I mean the way she died, why she died, and that little speach that the Watcher did at the end. "... more important, she died human." That was some powerful shit to a 10 year old. Now they plug captain americas ass, big deal.
Jean Grey's death wasn't just a water shed event in the X-Men but the entire marvel universe. So what did they do? Whipped out their dicks and pissed all over it.
Fuck
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This is why I do read a lot of manga
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Lone Gunmen Deja Vu (Score:2, Interesting)
Good morning to you too... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Good morning to you too... (Score:5, Funny)
Done and done. Would you like to be billed now or later?
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That's next week's issue
Oh no! (Score:5, Funny)
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Torture, disregard of human rights, and pretty damn stupid.
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Captain America dead at 66 (Score:5, Funny)
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So will America.
If Captain America is the embodiment of what it means to be American, let the record show that he didn't die because he failed us. He died because we, the Americans, failed him.
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But you know what: we voted in a new House and Senate who will hopefully change America back to the way I think it should be. How's that for an honest statement.
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The late, great Bill Hicks said it best:
I'll show you politics in America. Here it is, right here. "I think the puppet on the right shares my beliefs." "I think the puppet on the left is more to my liking." "Hey, wait a minute, there's one guy holding out both puppets!"
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I think the only right we have left is the one that says they can't quarter soldiers in your house.
Expect that one to be gone by the end of the year, *sigh* . . .
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Expect that one to be gone by the end of the year, *sigh* . .
Nah, soliders expect better housing than my place nowadays. I could see us "housing" 1-2 soliders, but we don't have the driveway space for a hummer or jeep. No, this is definitely the only one they'd leave want to alone. I really couldn't see the government being that cheap unless we had a war on our homefront. Heck, we have enough hotels/motels t
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haven't been to walter reed recently, have you?
Re:Clearly (Score:5, Insightful)
OK, here's my problem, pal. These are just a few examples, but you get the drift. All of these were uncovered with quick Google searches. There are lots more cases that I'd be happy to share with you, or you could go ahead and look for yourself.
First Amendment: status - gone [amconmag.com]
Second Amendment: status - limited [wikipedia.org]
Third Amendment: status - Intact!
Fourth Amendment: status - gone [wikipedia.org]
Fifth Amendment: status - gone [cbsnews.com]
I'll stop there for now.
The only one spouting bullshit here is you, chief.
Wake the fuck up before it's too late.
And if you're wondering what this has to do with Captain America - well, it just made me sad, that's all.
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The problem is that if you are accused of being a terrorist you can be held more or less indefinitely without legal counsel and without a trial.
The problem is that senior white house members have actually so much as said that people need to be careful what they say in these times. What? That sounds like it will have a chilling effect on freedom of speech and most especially the press to me.
The problem is that illegal wiretaps are alive and well.
The problem is that people are being put on no-fly lists for, as far as anyone can tell, speaking against the actions of the government. Which is pretty clearly a violation of the first amendment.
I could go on, but it probably wouldn't do any good anyway.
It's okay, we already know it's because you lack the courage of your convictions. (I can say this without being a hypocrite, of course, because I go ahead and take my lumps.) That's why you're called an Anonymous Coward.
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Resonate? (Score:2)
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Marvel has killed characters without bringing them back.
Gwen Stacy, for example.
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SPOILERS!!! (Score:5, Informative)
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What about the comic book? (Score:2)
Or maybe they can pull a Lost-stunt by drawing pages and pages of Captain America's flashbacks.
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Now, what's also not mentioned is that in another comic released today he seems to still be alive, "fighting for his life" (He was shot in the shoulder and stomach after all, how fatal is THAT in comics?). So, I think it's pretty safe to say he will be back soon enough, that's
He already died back in the late 1980s (Score:2)
Then they brought him back...
[[ BATTLESTAR GALACTICA SPOILERS ]]
Of course I'm not sure what the big deal is... Starbuck just died and there's no media hoopla about that.
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Probably because nobody believes she's dead. Maybe I'm still in denial, but I just don't buy it. After all that buildup about her destiny and crap I'm supposed to accept that said destiny was to fly into a storm and explode? I don't buy it. I put the odds at 50 percent chance of some future episode revealing a barely plausible explanation for how she ejected and was picked up by the cylon heavy raider (or similar deus ex machina), 30 percent of some mystical afterlife nonsense based on "god" or "the god
Re:He already died back in the late 1980s (Score:4, Funny)
Or (follow me on this), the storm caused her to be thrown
back in time and across the galaxy (to say 1980 Earth) where she
has adventures on what appears to the the set for CHiPs.
This will be spun into a new series.
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Only I think it will be to the dark ages, where she will fight Deadites using her appropriately modifed Viper and her knowledge of gunpowder.
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Maybe the key to finding earth and making peace with the cylons is having every character on the show come back from the brink of death.
And as for your predictions, I vote that all 3 will happen.
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As for Starbuck... the media (and many fans) stopped giving a shit about Galactica when the writers gave up on serious, interesting bits (genocide, fleet issues, politics, etc) to dwell on the goddamned Starbuck/Apoll
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1941 (Score:2)
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I had always assumed Donald was Canadian.
Slashdot is better source of information than Wikipedia!
Pre-Curser (Score:5, Funny)
Colonel America?! (Score:2)
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BWAH-HAH-Hah-hah! (Score:3, Funny)
Without colorfully decked out heroes to inspire patriotic thoughts, America's youth will now turn to video games, skate boards, meaningless text chatter and enormous quantities of junk food to fill the empty hole in their lives.
Hmmm?
Already doing that, are they?
Dang.
Well, perhaps we need to demoralize the younger set. We have an offer to kill Barney the Purple Dinosaur. Kids still like him, right?
Wait, the KIDS want us to kill him?
That's it. I'm going back to Eddoria.
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i am wondering if it is to much for me to ask for some semblance of reality injected into the comic industry.
I agree! Let's stick to realistic flying people with telepathic powers and super-human strength that the got from a gamma-radiated firefly!
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Who was Steve Rogers? (Score:2)
Rogers attempts to enlist, only to be rejected due to his poor constitution.
Then
A U.S. Army officer looking for test subjects offers Rogers the chance to serve his country by taking part in a top-secret defense project -- Operation: Rebirth, which seeks to develop a means of creating physically superior soldiers. Rogers volunteers for the research and, after a rigorous physical, combat training and selection process, is chosen as the first human test subject
So he was not fit to be enl
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So he was not fit to be enlisted, yet strong enough to participate in this rigorous physical, combat training and selection process?
Since he obviously wasn't good enough to be enlisted, they settled for giving him a commission. Hence, Captain America.
Come on, this is comics.... (Score:2)
Which one? (Score:2)
PFFAAGH!
I laugh at you!
Is this the Capt. America that fought the Red Skull, or the Capt. America that fought the Red Skull?
I can tell by the perplexed looks upon your pale faces that you don't realize that there was another Capt. America, in the 1950s!
Drag yourselves back to your mother's basement to dig out your old comic books and you will disgust yourselves almost as much as you disgust me.
I laugh at you again. No, better yet, I spit on you.
SIGNED Red Skrull
Sold Out (Score:2)
What really peeves me is that I've been reading Cap regularly for a while now, and I was just trying to by the next issue like I always do but all the frigging collectors and speculators bought them first. So a bunch of people who couldn't care less have it and I don't.
Weaksauce death? (Score:2)
Read more at Marvel Database (Score:2, Interesting)
Time for a new Captain America? (Score:5, Funny)
I'm picturing a Baron Harkonnen from the Lynch Dune movie, drenched in blood and oil. His superpower would be the ability to fly at 50,000 feet in an invisible plane, and destroy his enemies (along with anyone else who happened to get in the way), with radioactive munitions.
His weakness, which all superheroes have, would be his incredible stupidity.
Steve Rogers is dead, not Cap (Score:3, Insightful)
That said, Cap will be back. Steve Rogers was not the only Captain America and he won't be the last. William Naslund, Jeff Mace, a "fake" Steve Rogers, and most recently, John Walker briefly took the mantle of "Captain America" from Rogers. I am sure another Marvel hero will assume the role of Captain America in his stead.
As a collector of the series, I am disappointed as Steve Rogers has been the one and only Captain America in my opinion and he can never be replaced, no matter who wears the costume.
Corporate America Triumphs Again (Score:5, Funny)
Art imitates life (Score:5, Insightful)
Maybe it is just coincidence that he is dead now, right when the vision of an U.S.A holding the high standards of freedom and fighting the good fights is vanishing every intervention, every occupation, every bad move in the fragile international relationships. (And I say "the vision" because, even U.S.A. making some bad movies between the end of WWII and the fall of The Wall, the fear of the communism was enough to impair the sight of the so called Free World, forgiving every single American mistake on that time, from Indochina to Central America, from Africa to South America).
I doubt the artists behind the comics would be courageous enough to make such a statement, to kill a superhero only to make a point. But the could have done. Captain America doesn't represents U.S.A anymore, America a long time ago gave up of the "land of free and home of brave" motto, gave up the "land of opportunities" ideal to embrace a no holds barred savage capitalism, where companies have the same rights but none of the duties of the natural people and can leverage their immortality to get rich at the expenses of the less favored. If Captain America was a real person in the real world, it would probably be fighting with all his strengths to restore to America everything that was lost in the past 60 years. But he isn't, so he is better off dead.
Jack Bauer is a better hero for U.S. now, anyway. Rest in peace if you can, Captain America, knowing that everything you fought for is about to be thrown away for 30 pieces of silver.
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I could see the excellent J Michael Strazynsci (speling?) doing this. Or individuals like Grant Morrison who routinely pervert characters to their own sociopolitical interests (I don't like my X-Men comics infused with Freudian undertones.)
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The Star-Spangled Banner (Score:5, Insightful)
Remember, the last line of the national anthem isn't a motto, it's a question:
"O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave
o'er the land of the free, and the home of the brave?"
Every generation has to ask themselves the question; every generation has to work to make the answer "yes".
I'm glad (Score:2)
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- Peace
Stupid stupid stupid (Score:2)
This isn't even the first time Captain America has been killed off... sheez.
Dead at 66? (Score:2)
Will be buried next to Bucky... (Score:2)
um. slight spoiler for THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO CARE (Score:5, Insightful)
A Year. A year of waiting and guessing and theorizing about the big ending, which is still a month or so away.
So now, the ONLY people who give a crap just got a big steaming pile of **SPOILER** handed to them thanks to a too-soon press release and an unthinking media that, in spite of a multi-Billion dollar comic book movie market, still thinks no one's reading them enough to care if they ruin entire plots in the headlines.
Jack Bauer Dies on 24 This Season!
Lost Is Really On An Alien Planet!
The Cheerleader Dies on Heroes!
Harry Potter Becomes Evil In Final Book!
you'd figure at least here in geek-land, a little more care would be taken.
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If Slashdot were the only folks carrying it, no problem. But every major media outlet has it, so Google News has it, so everyone has it, at a glance, in the headline.
You want persp
The Return (Score:4, Funny)
'Twas Irony That Killed Captain America (Score:5, Insightful)
Captian America was a bit different than your gadern variety superhero. He didn't fight super villians, evil geniuses, and/or monsters/aliens. He fought for civil liberty, freedom, and rights. Analogies of those at times, but those were his core reason to fight.
Imagine then the writers dillema when they realize in order for Captian America to fight for those things, he must fight America itself. Instead of be faced with that overwhelming irony, they took the easy way out and killed him off. I would have preferred they make a stand and actually had Captain America turn his shield on the White House for a few issues. Mr. Smith goes to Washington squared.
R.I.P.
Captain America
1941-2007
Crushed by Irony
Call for Rorschach (Score:3, Funny)
More suitable hero found! (Score:3, Insightful)
Apparently Captain America no longer symbolised the new American ideals.
Instead, he will be replaced by The Punisher:
"...the Punisher is a vigilante who considers killing, kidnapping, extortion, coercion, threats of violence and torture as acceptable crime-fighting tactics."
[Source: Wikepedia]
That'll be why he's being killed... (Score:5, Insightful)
That's Captain America's point. He stands for what America was, not what it is now. That's why he's been leading the rebel faction throughout Civil War. Captain America's death is symbolic of the death of the American principles and ideals for which he fought for so long. If America has become a monster, then either Captain America must defeat it, or he must die fighting it, because to do otherwise would be to negate his own identity.
Plus, it always shifts a shitload of comics and gets mainstream press attention when you kill off a big name like this. Even if you then just casually bring him back to life a few months later.
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Real Daleks don't climb stairs - they level the building.
Just add "- see Fallujah."
OK?
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I guess it's hard to market a character so closely identified with the most hated nation since Nazi Germany.
Because the Soviet Union was oh-so-popular.
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Kennedy metaphor, anybody? Symbol of American idealism shot down by lone nut?
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Not all problems can be solved by bouncing a shield off someones head.
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If not, there really should be one.
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That's still a generation or so away.