Amazon MP3 Vs. iTunes Music Store 310
Ali writes "As discussed here recently, amazon.com has launched a public beta of Amazon MP3, a digital music store that provides DRM-free downloads of over 2 million songs from 180,000 artists and 20,000 labels. In comparison, Apple says the iTunes Store now contains over 6 million songs. Here is a head-to-head comparison."
Bad info in article. (Score:4, Informative)
Summary (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Bad info in article. (Score:5, Informative)
Finally (Score:1, Informative)
i think now i WILL actually buy some music in digital form --- kudos to amazon
Re:Bad info in article. (Score:4, Informative)
Of course, even getting to see their plans without signing up is deliberately made difficult, but if you follow the links around from their legalese pages, you find a well buried link to the plans [emusic.com].
I have had no luck in finding out what quality the tracks are ripped with, or what software was used to rip them. Nor any other technical details.
Re:I'd rather go Amazon (Score:3, Informative)
iTunes Plus not proprietary... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Bad info in article. (Score:3, Informative)
You can also click on the "Login" button on eMusic.com and then a search box and all the links are there.
Or install the Firefox search [mozdev.org].
Re:I see hope on the horizon! (Score:1, Informative)
BTW, tell your brother-in-law that he can burn his music to Audio CDs so he can use it with his new device. If he doesn't want re-compressed music, he can download softwares to remove FairPlay. Search engines are your friend.
Text of article (Score:1, Informative)
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Entertainment | 25 Sep 2007 | Recommend?
Amazon MP3 Takes on the iTunes Store
by Adam C. Engst
Amazon.com has launched a public beta of Amazon MP3, a digital music store that provides DRM-free downloads of over 2 million songs from 180,000 artists and 20,000 labels. In comparison, Apple says the iTunes Store now contains over 6 million songs.
According to Amazon's press release, most of Amazon MP3's songs are priced between $0.89 and $0.99, with more than 1 million songs in the current catalog available at $0.89, a full $0.40 less than Apple's iTunes Plus songs. Most albums in Amazon MP3 are priced between $5.99 and $9.99, again a bit cheaper than albums in the iTunes Store, which generally check in at $9.99.
All songs in Amazon MP3 are encoded at 256 Kbps, which is comparable to iTunes Plus songs, although in theory, the iTunes Plus AAC format could provide better quality than the MP3 format used by Amazon. Because Amazon is using MP3 and avoiding DRM entirely, songs purchased from Amazon MP3 are playable on any device, including the iPhone and iPods, along with Macs, PCs, and music players from other manufacturers.
Individual tracks can be purchased directly from a Web page, but to buy an album, you must first download and install the Amazon MP3 Downloader, available for both Mac OS X and Windows (a 615K download for the Mac version).
In my testing, the Amazon MP3 Downloader worked acceptably, but it was a distinctly clumsier experience than purchasing from iTunes. Clicking a Buy button on the Amazon Web site downloaded a document to my Desktop. I believe the Amazon MP3 Downloader was supposed to open it and download the actual song, but I had to double-click the file manually, likely because Amazon wasn't expecting that I'd be using a browser other than Safari (I generally rely on OmniWeb). Once opened in Amazon MP3 Downloader, the song was downloaded to an Amazon MP3 folder in the Music folder and then sent over to iTunes, which, at least on my machine, means that it was duplicated, since I keep my iTunes Music folder on a server for shared usage.
Songs I purchased were encoded at between 208 Kbps and 256 Kbps using variable bit-rate (VBR) encoding, and the free sample song was encoded at 280 Kbps VBR. Sound quality was certainly fine to my ears, though I'm no audio connoisseur. The metadata was complete and album artwork was either included or picked up automatically by iTunes.
Not Too Shabby -- Amazon MP3 is the first online music store that hasn't left me cold. Its advantages are very real:
* No DRM. No consumer likes DRM, and although Apple hasn't yet released any statistics on how the DRM-free tracks from EMI have sold in comparison with the DRM-encumbered versions of the same tracks, Amazon has done the right thing by eliminating it across the board. Hopefully Amazon's move will give Apple some leverage with the music labels to make more DRM-free tracks available.
* iPod compatibility. Thanks to the lack of DRM, and in particular, Windows-specific DRM, songs purchased from Amazon MP3 will play on an iPod, something that has never been true for a mainstream online music retailer (other than Apple) before.
* Low prices. I don't have a sense for how price-conscious the online music market really is, but with many tracks priced below even the cost of Apple's DRM-encumbered tracks, and albums priced even lower, I could see budget-driven consumers or those who buy a lot of music preferring to purchase from Amazon MP3 over the iTunes Store.
* 1-Click shopping. People do not like creating new accounts for shopping, but there's no question that some people shop from Amazon over other venues purely because it's such a known quantity after years of easy ordering. Ordering
Re:I'd rather go Amazon (Score:2, Informative)
I'd like to try Amazon (Score:4, Informative)
For now I'll stick to eMusic and DownloadPunk (albums are downloaded as a zip).
Amazon Problems (Score:1, Informative)
- Downloading of singles without the proprietary downloader can take ages (20 minutes for a 5MB song) or fail completely
- No sorting options on many screens, just like the rest of Amazon. At least clicking on an artist gets you that artist's music, unlike clicking on an author when looking at books, which only gets you a text search of the author's name (still amazed at the lameness of that)
- No shopping cart. WTF? Each song must be purchased individually. It's amazing how crappy these music stores start out. The bar is so insanely low.
- No media library for re-downloading. Come on people, join the new millennium. Why not make it possible forever, and only limit the number of redownloads in a given time period if you are worried about bandwidth? Where did customer service go? Not to mention this would bring consumer eyes back again and again... why run away from this opportunity?
- Lousy track naming. Decent meta information but the files are named {track #} - {track name}.mp3. Track number is meaningless without the context of the album. Why not name them {artist} - {track name}.mp3 so the are comprehensible in a directory listing?
Tip: If you record the download URL, you'll find that you can actually use it multiple times. Great for when something goes wrong with the first attempt. For some reason, Amazon can't figure out how to serve these files worth a damn. Fortunately they didn't bother to actually enforce the "one download" policy. Not sure how long it hangs around.
Re:Redundant? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Amazon needs to add easy sorting (Score:1, Informative)
FYI The top list contains the Artist results, the left column has the albums, and the main list (the gray list on the right titled "MP3 Songs") has the songs. In addition, if you search through Amazon's regular store and click on a CD, it gives you an option to buy it in mp3 format there (assuming they have it).
Fails on search (Score:2, Informative)
Sorry, but iTunes is just an infinitely easier to use store than the Amazon web site; and have you SEEN the Wireless iTunes Music store??
iTMS is just so far ahead of Amazon in style and functionality that I don't see anyone on Windows or Mac abandoning iTMS in favor of Amazon.
Amazon is also mis-leading consumers. They claim $.89 downloads, but it only applies to the "top 100" songs, most other tracks are $.99_ or more_.
Sure the Amazon tracks are DRM free, but the Fairplay rights from iTunes Music store are something most consumers are never going to run up against... 5 computers, unlimited iPods, only 10 sequential playlist burns before you have to alter the playlist or start copying the burned disk directly. And there are certainly enough ways "around" Fairplay that anyone who would be affected; ie non windows/Mac OS users, could remove the DRM on a supported platform via emulation and migrate the music to another format/platform.
I get the sneaky suspicion that there is some back-room politics going on here between the record companies and Amazon and that it is all to benefit the record companies.
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Re:profit margin (Score:5, Informative)
Current estimates are about a dime, with "wholesale cost" (i.e. the label's cut) being about $0.70 for majors and $0.60-65 for independents.
The rest of the cost is supposed to be comprosed of infrastructure, operational expenses, and transaction fees from the credit card companies. I'll eat my own shoes if Amazon's costs aren't lower. They're largely reusing a pre-existing retail infrastructure. And as a major retail operation, they doubtless have a ton of clout with the credit card companies (which are commonly cited as having the next biggest cut after the labels).
Presumably this is not too server lite either since I'm guessing the songs are watermarked with your ID and then MP3 compressed.
Nope. The songs are being provided encoded by the labels and the only watermarks identify the retailer, not the purchaser. Bandwidth would be the predominant cost here.
Re:EMusic has lots of promise, but fails currently (Score:2, Informative)
The average bit rate used for VBR on eMusic is 192k. We choose to encode using VBR to give you the best possible sound quality with the smallest possible file size.
I still think that's a little unnecessarily low, but just wanted to point out they don't use the absolute minimum.
Re:I'd like to try Amazon (Score:5, Informative)
Oh come on now.
With this offering, Amazon has done more to make Linux a first-class citizen in the online music space than maybe any other company to date. That's hardly "lock[ing] out Linux users."
Song URLs and better search in iTunes (Score:2, Informative)
2. To get a more useful search in iTunes, go to the Store menu and select "Search..."
3. Can't find this track on iTunes, I suspect because they don't have it. Whether that indicates that Amazon's selection of two million tracks has more obscure stuff than iTunes's selection of six million tracks -- and whether that is good or bad -- I can't say.