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Genetic Modification Produces Mighty Mouse 320

Identity Missing writes "An Ohio laboratory has produced genetically modified mice which 'can run five to six kilometres at a speed of 20 meters per minute on a treadmill, for up to six hours before stopping,' as well as a number of other remarkable feats. An enzyme called phosphoenolypyruvate carboxykinases (PEPCK-C) is apparently responsible, and we should hope that the scientists are correct in saying that athletes won't be modifying their genes any time soon to get it, because it apparently makes the mice more aggressive. If anyone feels a super villain coming on, at least we can rely on these Mighty Mice. A video demonstrates just how much these little guys beat the competition."
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Genetic Modification Produces Mighty Mouse

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  • Testosterone? (Score:2, Insightful)

    by CarpetShark ( 865376 ) on Friday November 02, 2007 @11:19AM (#21212211)
    More aggressive? Sounds like what this actually does is produce testosterone or something equivalent, not better muscles/hearts directly.
  • by porkThreeWays ( 895269 ) on Friday November 02, 2007 @11:24AM (#21212335)
    I've always wondered what would be possible if humans were regularly experimented on in the same fashion. Of course it's unethical, but I bet we'd have humans that can live 300 years and run 10,000 miles at a clip if we cut out the middle man ;)
  • by rbanzai ( 596355 ) on Friday November 02, 2007 @11:35AM (#21212541)
    Originally genetic modification was just things like making mice glow. Now they're creating results that would be appealing to exactly the wrong people: the military.

    As soon as a science has military application it gets billions poured into it. Even if there are beneficial offshoots to the research that follows the repercussions are usually awful. Think atom bombs and biological weapons.

    It is not unreasonable at this point to wonder where we're going to end up as a species. If we can genetically create human beings with abilities that far outpace anything an unmodified can do will that become the norm?

    In my lifetime (40 years) genetic modification has gone from theory to fact. I am worried that it will be horribly abused.
  • Re:I for one (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Daniel Dvorkin ( 106857 ) on Friday November 02, 2007 @11:53AM (#21212847) Homepage Journal
    My suspicion is that they wouldn't do well in the wild. Aggression and strength in the natural world have to be balanced with food requirements, which is basically why not every living thing is super-strong, super-fast, and super-tough. Dire wolves are gone for a reason ... These mice "eat twice as much and weigh half as much," which sounds great to people living in the modern industrialized world, but is a pretty serious liability for a wild animal.

    Also, they may be amazingly tough for mice, but you know, they're still mice. No matter how big and strong they may be, there are still plenty of critters bigger and stronger than they. If their aggression translates into a lack of caution around predators, then they'd essentially be nothing but a nice lean snack for health-conscious cats. ;)
  • by TheMeuge ( 645043 ) on Friday November 02, 2007 @12:03PM (#21213047)

    As soon as a science has military application it gets billions poured into it. Even if there are beneficial offshoots to the research that follows the repercussions are usually awful. Think atom bombs and biological weapons.


    You have a twisted view of the world, my friend.

    I think a far more rational way of interpreting what happens is that the offshoots are awful (atom bombs, biological weapons), while the repercussions are beneficial (infectious disease research, nuclear power). Far more people are living longer, and better lives because of military-driven advancements in science, then the number of people that have been harmed or killed by the inventions that follow.
  • by Scrameustache ( 459504 ) on Friday November 02, 2007 @12:07PM (#21213133) Homepage Journal

    Why is it unethical? If you could save thousands of lives by curing a disease, but curing the disease required potentially deadly experiments on a few people, wouldn't it be unethical NOT to proceed with the research?
    You first.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 02, 2007 @12:31PM (#21213479)
    Before going overboard with dystopian visions of genetically engineered super-humans, here's something to ponder:

    Raising a 2-year-old modified like this.

    The parents would never survive.
  • Re:So (Score:4, Insightful)

    by nogginthenog ( 582552 ) on Friday November 02, 2007 @12:44PM (#21213683)
    Sound smore like the Rats of NIMH
  • by m2943 ( 1140797 ) on Friday November 02, 2007 @12:44PM (#21213687)
    But Professor Hanson played this down. "Right now, this is impossible to do - putting a gene into muscle. It's unethical.

    I'm tired of people claiming that it's "unethical" to enhance one's body--or destroy it for that matter. What substances I ingest or what modifications I make to my body is my own business. Even genetic modifications to one's own children aren't automatically "unethical".

    Genetic engineering on humans is going to happen. Get over it.

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