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Music Copyright In EU Extended To 70 Years 395

rastos1 writes "The European Parliament extended the copyright in the EU for the performers of musical works from 50 to 70 years. The legislation will be reviewed in 3 years. The European Commission will consider extending the scope to audiovisual works too." So performers will collect for 20 more years from the date of performance; composers' rights already extend to 70 years beyond their deaths. Update: 4/26 at 12:15 GMT by SS: Reader rimberg points out that while the copyright extension was passed in the European Parliament, it is now being held up in the Council of Ministers awaiting further debate on the issue.
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Music Copyright In EU Extended To 70 Years

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 25, 2009 @11:13PM (#27718187)

    ..and the public.

    According to the approved legislation, if producers, 50 years after the publication of a phonogram, do not make it available to the public, performers can ask to terminate the contract they signed to transfer their rights to the label.

    That would SO never pass in the US.

  • Harmony (Score:5, Informative)

    by slashqwerty ( 1099091 ) on Saturday April 25, 2009 @11:22PM (#27718227)
    The US already grants copyright up to 70 years after the author's death. They're just doing this to harmonize their laws with the United States. But wait, in 2002 the key argument presented to the Supreme Court in Eldred v. Ashcroft is that we extended copyright to harmonize with the European Union.
  • This was coming. (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 25, 2009 @11:25PM (#27718247)

    If it wasn't for this legislation, we would see in the next decade some great early rock n roll get released into the public domain. :-(

  • Re:Insightful? (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 25, 2009 @11:57PM (#27718449)

    Highlighting shared sentiment? Copyright is after all the balance of artist income and value to society through public works. If society at large believes there to be no balance then the gp was insightful.

  • Re:Harmony (Score:4, Informative)

    by Simetrical ( 1047518 ) <Simetrical+sd@gmail.com> on Sunday April 26, 2009 @12:24AM (#27718583) Homepage

    70 years in the United States? Yeah, back at the turn of the 20th century. Toward the end of the 20th, the Sonny Bono copyright act extended copyright in the United States to more than a century.

    Just check wikipedia [wikipedia.org]

    Read your own link. Grandparent is correct about the length of copyright. Sonny-Bono extended the duration of copyright from fifty years after the death of the author to seventy years after the death of the author. Assuming most authors live thirty years or more after they publish a given work, this will often amount to a century or more of copyright, yes. (This is all ignoring works that are written anonymously, pseudonymously, by multiple authors, unpublished, etc.)

    However, the summary makes it clear that this isn't seventy years p.m.a., it's seventy years from the date of the performance, and only applies to performances: "So performers will collect for 20 more years from the date of performance; composers' rights already extend to 70 years beyond their deaths." I don't know what the law is in the U.S. right now on duration of copyright for performances, or whether this harmonizes with it at all.

    In 1900, by the way, the maximum length of copyright was 28 years from first publication, nowhere close to 70 years. In 1909 it was 56 years, still less than 70. According to, again, your own link.

  • by voss ( 52565 ) on Sunday April 26, 2009 @12:32AM (#27718637)

    14 years.

    The US constitution had a similar copyright law from 1789 to 1909, 14 years + 14 year extension if requested, and you had to file for the copyright and the extension no reward for laziness.

    The purpose of copyright is to encourage creative arts not to make heirs and corporations wealthy.

  • by NewbieV ( 568310 ) <victor...abraham ... ot@@@gmail...com> on Sunday April 26, 2009 @01:23AM (#27718847)

    According to this paper [repec.org], optimal copyright duration is 14-15 years.

  • Re:Why? (Score:4, Informative)

    by timeOday ( 582209 ) on Sunday April 26, 2009 @01:23AM (#27718849)

    who really wants Yoko Ono to continue getting money off of Lennon's genius?

    The existence of long-lived copyright corporations like Sony and Disney means artists (not just their descendants and other hangers-on) CAN profit - while living - from proceeds after their deaths. The rights to the music are more valuable now because of the revenue they are expected to generate in the future. Michael Jackson, for instance, might have to sell off the rights to his music to stay financially afloat. But if those rights were to perish with him, the companies who will soon be bidding for those rights would bid much less.

  • Re:Why? (Score:3, Informative)

    by timeOday ( 582209 ) on Sunday April 26, 2009 @01:32AM (#27718899)
    C'mon now, some of your examples are poorly chosen. Patti Labelle has a big reputation and has published 7 albums this decade.

    Prince is still averaging an album every year and I'm pretty sure they are profitable. He is a far cry from Michael Jackson.

  • Go ahead and whine (Score:2, Informative)

    by symbolset ( 646467 ) on Sunday April 26, 2009 @02:51AM (#27719237) Journal

    Until you're paying royalties to the descendants of Sophocles for Oedipus, you have no moral standing.

    And I'm not calling to the people. I'm echoing their screams. Can you not hear them? It's your head they want on a pike.

  • Re:Why? (Score:4, Informative)

    by Martin Blank ( 154261 ) on Sunday April 26, 2009 @03:01AM (#27719273) Homepage Journal

    Prince is most certainly not living on old accomplishments. His commercial viability suffered in the late 1990s, but since then, he's released several albums that have sold very well (his last four have all been in the top 3 in the charts), went on a tour in 2004 that brought in nearly $90 million. He's still writing songs for other artists on top of all of that.

    He may not be a friend of those in favor of copyright reform (he's about as much a copyright Nazi as Bono), but to suggest that he isn't busting his ass playing and creating music -- and doing so successfully -- is just flat wrong.

  • by AnyoneEB ( 574727 ) on Sunday April 26, 2009 @03:40AM (#27719371) Homepage

    You should probably start here: philosophy of copyright (consequentialist theories) [wikipedia.org]. Actually, the whole article is probably worth a read.

    There are multiple rationales for copyright. You seem to believe in the natural rights of the author and their heirs to control the uses of the work. Wikipedia mentions that the cases you present are related to the concept of personality rights [wikipedia.org].

    In the United States, the U.S. Constitution gives the rationale of "to promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts" [wikipedia.org]. The view you reference is that that means copyright is a sort of loan from the public to the creator(s) and that copyright exists purely to allow creative works to be sold for a long enough period of time to ensure their creation is sufficiently profitable for it to actually happen -- and no more. That is, copyright is far from being a natural right: it is a necessary evil that should be minimized as much as possible without damaging the creation of new works.

    From that perspective, the question is not "Why is copyright bad?" but "Why is copyright good?" based on the belief that all limitations on personal liberty need to be justified.

  • Re:Harmony (Score:3, Informative)

    by jeti ( 105266 ) on Sunday April 26, 2009 @03:52AM (#27719419)

    The US already grants copyright up to 70 years after the author's death.

    The EU has extended the rights of the performers, not the authors. The US does not grant comparable rights to performers at all.

  • by frdmfghtr ( 603968 ) on Sunday April 26, 2009 @08:24AM (#27720371)

    * If I buy an original potatoe at a store and I reproduce it and share copies with my friends, why isn't that called theft? Making that initial potatoe available can potentially cost the store thousands in lost potatoe sales.

    Monsanto has already done this with farmers [usatoday.com] using some of their seeds. Monsanto has even gone after farmers who don't use Monsanto seed, but get cross-pollinated [sourcewatch.org] from crops that do use the engineered seed.

    And BTW...toss out the "Dan Quayle does Spelling" book. It's 'potato' :) (had to toss that one in there)

  • Re:Why? (Score:3, Informative)

    by funkatron ( 912521 ) on Sunday April 26, 2009 @09:39AM (#27720669)
    Are you naive enough to think Britney Spears performed the music with her name on it.
  • Re:Why? (Score:3, Informative)

    by m.ducharme ( 1082683 ) on Sunday April 26, 2009 @09:55AM (#27720741)

    The copyright terms are "life of creator plus x years." Also, there are different kinds of rights for performance, composition, etc. This does apply to songs as well. A quick google turned up this link: Copyright: Protecting Your Songs [ascap.com]

  • Re:Why? (Score:2, Informative)

    by moortak ( 1273582 ) on Sunday April 26, 2009 @02:06PM (#27722311)
    She is still making the charts somewhere pretty often. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patti_LaBelle [wikipedia.org]

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