Catch up on stories from the past week (and beyond) at the Slashdot story archive

 



Forgot your password?
typodupeerror
×
Movies Star Wars Prequels

The Lost Film That Accompanied Empire Strikes Back 195

An anonymous reader writes "'Alien' and 'Star Wars' art director Roger Christian was given £25,000 by George Lucas in 1979 to make a 25-minute medieval B-feature called 'Black Angel.' This spiritual tale of a knight on a strange quest was inspired by Christian's near-fatal fever when he fell ill in Mexico making 'Lucky Lady.' 'Black Angel' made a huge impression, not least because it shared the dark tone of 'Empire Strikes Back.' John Boorman showed it to the crew of 'Excalibur' as a template for how he wanted his film to look, and 'Black Angel' went on to influence films such as 'Dragonslayer' and 'Legend' throughout the 1980s and beyond. But it has not been seen by anyone since 'Empire' finished its theatrical run. Two weeks ago Roger Christian unearthed a print of a film that was thought lost forever, and in this interview he talks about 'Black Angel,' and provides the only picture from the film that has ever hit the Internet."
This discussion has been archived. No new comments can be posted.

The Lost Film That Accompanied Empire Strikes Back

Comments Filter:
  • Re:Star Wars (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Misanthrope ( 49269 ) on Wednesday March 10, 2010 @05:02PM (#31430888)

    Did you really skim that fast? This is about a completely different movie that just happens to have been made by the same art director. I'll be keeping my fingers crossed that they put out copies of this it looks really interesting.

  • But do your other plans for the Black Angel story make you think twice about releasing it?

    Do you know something? I'm wrestling with this. I was talking about it yesterday. I still get letters, still get emails, there are threads on the IMDB going on and on about it - people guessing the story and how much it affected their mindsbut I just wonder if I brought it out now, thirty years later

    I haven't seen it in thirty years myself, but I wonder if its imitators have devalued it a little, the way seven years of The X-Files made Silence Of The Lambs look dated

    Exactly.

    It might look like a copy of the films and TV that it inspired, which have been in circulation ever since.

    I assure you that I am quite capable of appreciating Kurosawa's Yojimbo and Sanjuro despite the fact that I had already seen Sergio Leone's Dollars Trilogy which massively borrows from them. I'm certain you were able to appreciate The Hidden Fortress after making the Star Wars Trilogy as well. So why do you doubt my ability to appreciate Black Angel?

    I mean, if you choose not to release it then you have no intent to capitalize off of it and you should release it online via Veoh or YouTube or some video hosting site. Wouldn't the popularity and enjoyment from the film reward you in some way -- with it being your first film that you labored over?

    I mean, even if it's just film snobs to appreciate it ... even if it's just a reason for people to brag that they've seen one of the original fantasy films ... even if it's just a chance for me to one up another person in conversation and promote my anti-social tendencies ... why wouldn't you release it in someway for the general public to digest in their homes?

  • Re:Star Wars (Score:5, Insightful)

    by BJ_Covert_Action ( 1499847 ) on Wednesday March 10, 2010 @05:05PM (#31430926) Homepage Journal
    First, this is slashdot, a website for nerds. Posting a question like:

    What's the interest in Star Wars movies anyway?

    ...is likely to get you flogged and/or hung.

    Secondly, with regards to:

    It would be interesting to see a James Bond like movie in space setting

    ...please see Moonraker [wikipedia.org].

    Finally, you can turn in your geek card at the door on your way out. Thanks for playing.

  • and ... (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 10, 2010 @05:06PM (#31430946)

    "While James Cameron was on a trip to Italy he became very ill with high fever. One night he had a terrible nightmare about a huge robot with red-glowing eyes that was trying to kill him."

  • Re:Star Wars (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Goldberg's Pants ( 139800 ) on Wednesday March 10, 2010 @05:10PM (#31431002) Journal

    I think he's just making a general comment on Star Wars in a thread tangentially related.

    And his bridge probably misses its troll.

  • Re:and ... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 10, 2010 @05:13PM (#31431048)

    I once had a fever dream that I would be up-ranked to +5 Insightful after making a meaningless self-referential post as an AC on Slashdot.

  • Digital Dark Age (Score:4, Insightful)

    by headkase ( 533448 ) on Wednesday March 10, 2010 @05:15PM (#31431080)
    In those days history was lost because of issues with physically duplicating things. Nowadays, it is being lost because we don't own the keys to the digital locks. Perhaps in twenty years we'll come to our senses and retroactively permit the breaking of today's encryption then - for what survived.
  • by otis wildflower ( 4889 ) on Wednesday March 10, 2010 @05:16PM (#31431088) Homepage

    I mean, if his _Battlefield Earth_ is anything to go by..

    Also, did he hold the camera straight?

  • Re:Star Wars (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Daniel_Staal ( 609844 ) <DStaal@usa.net> on Wednesday March 10, 2010 @05:28PM (#31431218)

    At this point? Nostalgia, mostly. Keep in mind that when it came out, there was literally nothing else like it.

    In many ways, there's still nothing else like it. It is a whole universe, created from scratch. Not just an extrapolation of our own, and not just the pieces you need to see for the story. Humans are common, but not special in any particular way. They mix with aliens and robots completely, and deal with each other as equals. There are lots of places where a race is shown once, in a background character, and never seen again. Most movies wouldn't bother: It's just extra expense.

    There's a feeling of history and depth to the movies (especially the original trilogy), that's nearly unique. You can write thousands of books about what else is happening in the universe, because it is a universe, and not just a setting for the story.

  • Re:Star Wars (Score:4, Insightful)

    by iamhassi ( 659463 ) on Wednesday March 10, 2010 @05:30PM (#31431234) Journal
    "First, this is slashdot, a website for nerds. Posting a question like: "What's the interest in Star Wars movies anyway?" ...is likely to get you flogged and/or hung. "

    I hope you're right, but it appears the mods have gone to lunch, because as of right now it's moderated: "(Score:1, Insightful)" :-O

    today is a sad day for /. when an anti-star wars post is moderated insightful

    Why doesn't he just finish off the rest of us and post how stupid star trek is
  • Re:Star Wars (Score:4, Insightful)

    by vlm ( 69642 ) on Wednesday March 10, 2010 @05:34PM (#31431292)

    In many ways, there's still nothing else like it. It is a whole universe, created from scratch. Not just an extrapolation of our own, and not just the pieces you need to see for the story. Humans are common, but not special in any particular way. .... There are lots of places where a race is shown once, in a background character, and never seen again.

    Lord of the Rings did it first, and better. Also, Ringworld, to some extent.

    Note, about 95% of the population does not realize the LOTR series was a book for some decades before the recent movies. I've actually heard people refer to the LOTR books as being "novelizations of the movies". Um, no.

  • by AndrewNeo ( 979708 ) on Wednesday March 10, 2010 @05:34PM (#31431300) Homepage

    You have to research things to make up stuff, now?

  • by Chris Burke ( 6130 ) on Wednesday March 10, 2010 @05:48PM (#31431476) Homepage

    Personally I'm wondering how Silence of the Lambs looks dated because of X-Files. Or at all for that matter.

  • by Blakey Rat ( 99501 ) on Wednesday March 10, 2010 @07:32PM (#31432602)

    A better example might be people seeing the French Connection and complaining that the car chase is too much of a cliche in a cop movie. (When they aren't aware that the French Connection is the *reason* every cop movie made since has a car chase.)

  • Re:Star Wars (Score:2, Insightful)

    by TheVelvetFlamebait ( 986083 ) on Wednesday March 10, 2010 @11:09PM (#31434084) Journal

    Nuh-uh.

  • Re:Star Wars (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Doctor_Jest ( 688315 ) on Wednesday March 10, 2010 @11:24PM (#31434144)
    Just don't count Alien:Resurrection. Still, the world created in Aliens is still "earth"... Everything in your list (I don't know about Cowboy Bebop) originates on earth... not "a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away."

    I know you put Mork & Mindy in there for the laugh track, and it doesn't diminish Alien or Trek... but Star Wars was something else... it wasn't earth. They looked human, and the world was fully realized. There was stuff going on, even before the S.E.'s. It was grimy, dirty, and lived-in. It wasn't 2001. And for that, Lucas should be praised.

    They are still my favorite movies of all time, and I saw A New Hope at a DRIVE IN theater in Santa Clara, California for crying out loud. :) No movie, not even the mighty Blade Runner has stuck with me and fully enveloped my life like Star Wars. All other movies I watch are compared to them. I grew up living, breathing, and experiencing Star Wars. Sure I made Lucas rich, but I thank him for some great stories (so they were old hat) set in a universe that was cool. There was no Prime Directive... no one was attempting to make out with the green alien chick, and the menace was larger, more sinister and more expansive than Aliens who suck your face. (That's not to say I don't enjoy Trek and Alien... Aliens is my favorite of the series, and I love the director's cut of Alien 3). I just love Star Wars MUCH more. I am truly a Star Wars fanatic.

And it should be the law: If you use the word `paradigm' without knowing what the dictionary says it means, you go to jail. No exceptions. -- David Jones

Working...