Lost Star Wars Scene In the Wild 294
Someone managed to get a clip on-line of the lost Star Wars scene from Jedi where Luke is shown crafting his Lightsaber. The full clip will apparently be included on the Blu-ray box set expected to come out in 2011. Hit the link below to see what is circulating. It's not much, but it looks real. Can't wait to see what they include in the 2015 version.
Update: 08/16 22:44 GMT by S : Lucasfilm complained, and YouTube took the video down.
Update: 08/16 22:44 GMT by S : Lucasfilm complained, and YouTube took the video down.
Snooze. (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Endless hype. (Score:3, Insightful)
A Geek and his money are soon parted.
Shop Class (Score:2, Insightful)
It looked a little like he was fabricating a self igniting bong.
I was hoping for a rickroll (Score:5, Insightful)
Really, a whole 15 seconds (and about as many words) for the $75 collector's edition?
I know we grew-up with it, but there's never going to be anything new until we STOP paying for the same old stuff.
-Matt
Re:"Luke!" (Score:5, Insightful)
Incest is the dark side of the force...
Re:Snooze. (Score:5, Insightful)
Just stop George. We know you'd probably like to remake Empire Strikes Back because you didn't direct it, and it's, you know, good, but don't. It's beyond sad and embarrassing now. The world will simply end up thinking that you contributed nothing good to the successes you've had.
Re:I wonder what happened to 3D Star Wars? (Score:5, Insightful)
if the last 15 years is any guide expect a new version of the saga every 2-3 years
late 1990's we had the cleaned up version of the OT followed up by the special edition versions
2000 we had The Phantom Menace
then we had the Phantom Menace DVD scandal where it was released on VHS in 2001 because GL had some grand plan to release all 6 movies on DVD middle of last decade
2002 TPM magially comes to DVD as a special release because of the demand
around this time we had the OT DVD release
then the next to NT movies came out on DVD shortly after the theater releases
i stopped buying after TPM DVD but i'm pretty sure there were a few grand releases later in the decade
after this blu ray release expect the OT movies to come out with no special edition versions
then 3D releases
then a few more releases including an upcoming complete reshoot of all the movies with new modern special effects but the original character's faces and voices to preserve the history of the series
the isuckers/star wars suckers will buy anything their cult leaders tell them to buy, in the case of the SW nerds they probably have 20 versions of each movie already and can't wait to buy more due to the continuous finds of new scenes
Looks cool ... (Score:5, Insightful)
Not Mark Hamill (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:I was hoping for a rickroll (Score:3, Insightful)
I know we grew-up with it, but there's never going to be anything new until we STOP paying for the same old stuff.
There IS new stuff. It's called The Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones, and Revenge of the Sith.
Re:I was hoping for a rickroll (Score:1, Insightful)
Really, a whole 15 seconds (and about as many words) for the $75 collector's edition?
I know we grew-up with it, but there's never going to be anything new until we STOP paying for the same old stuff.
-Matt
Here's a thought, don't buy it! Why this obsession on Slashdot with not paying for things? Would it suddenly be okay if he released them free? I'm sure he's spending a bundle remastering them and adding content so it's reasonable to charge. The viewing public isn't a charity. I have far less trouble with this than I did with the original Star Wars laserdisk licensing mess. I believe there were five versions. Some were wide screen others had Dolby. The problem was since they licensed each version to a different company no one copy had everything you wanted. I didn't bother buying one until the box set came out. If you don't want to waste your money then don't but some people will want them so why stop the release just to avoid annoying you personally? And no I don't have any plans to buy them. Release the original first film in blu-ray and I'll buy it in a heartbeat. It was still the best of the lot and I'm not a fan of the last three. The new scenes stick out like a sore thumb. Cleaning up the old garbage mattes is fine just don't add CG shots. The reason the old VHS and Laserdisk version had visible garbage mattes is they did a one light on the gama. The blacks were too light so it showed every garbage matter around the ships. It was the studio going cheap. Things like that should be cleaned up but the rest should be released intact. Too bad he won't release it since fans would pay a lot for an original theatrical version on blu-ray. I doubt it'll happen while he's alive.
Old or new??? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:I was hoping for a rickroll (Score:4, Insightful)
The moral of the story (for the GP) is: be careful what you wish for! ;-)
Cash-in (Score:4, Insightful)
You'd think by ROTJ Lucas would have thought with all the impending fandom to keep a good ten or more short clips like this to keep the money rolling in with each successive edition of Star Wars.
Anyone reminded of that Simpsons episode where company making the dolls Lisa likes introduce a tiny hat alongside a 'new' doll, and people in their droves rush to buy the same old thing with just a trivial scrap added in?
It's pretty sad that after the prequels people can still get so excited over 15 or so seconds of Luke handling his lightsabre. It's baffling and kind of sad that there's all this cheering and enthusiatic shouting over a mundane snippet like this.
Re:I was hoping for a rickroll (Score:3, Insightful)
Which you can't find unless they're on VHS or badly bootlegged. Why can't we just buy the original cut?
Re:I was hoping for a rickroll (Score:3, Insightful)
Yeah, and those 15 seconds include more emotion and acting than the whole prequel series do together.. and Hamill aren't a good actor.
Re:I was hoping for a rickroll (Score:3, Insightful)
Oh, and ask Google about where to find a picture of Lucas wearing a "Han shot first" t-shirt. He definitely has a sense of humor about these things.
It's his sense of humor that bothers me. Like adding 52 seconds of cutting room floor footage and billing $75 for it.
Hell if people made me into a billionaire like that I'd probably have a good sense of humor too. I'd spend my days rolling around on the floor in piles of hundred dollar bills giggling like a maniac.
Re:What they include (Score:5, Insightful)
Meh, LEGO Star Wars just has everyone throw thermal detonators around the cantina. "Sorry about the mess... KABOOM!"
I want them to show R2D2 as the Sith Lord he really is.
Think about it:
1. What happened to Anakin? Put into a metal box after serious injury.
2. What would happen to a seriously injured Sith member of Yoda's race? A box, just like R2D2's.
3. We've seen R2D2 use lightning. Sith.
4. Watch the scene with the Cave of Vader and the scene where R2 stares Yoda down. Sith.
5. We've seen R2 Force Destroy a droid. Sith.
6. He hung around Anakin as a kid WAY more than Sidious / Palpatine.
7. We know that Sith can hide their force power. Sith.
8. We've seen R2 fly. Sith.
9. Force Persuade on the gunner. "Hold your fire. No life signs aboard."
Seriously, watch TOT thinking of R2 as a Sith.
I'd also like to hear the Storm Trooper's communications during Endor:
"Sir, we're under attack by what seems to be children."
"Say again?"
"Children, sir. They're 3 feet tall. Do we have a kill order?"
"Hold your fire. The Empire does not fire on children. Am I clear?"
"Yes sir, we're taking heavy losses here."
"Understood. We'll put you in Bacta Tanks on the Star once it's over."
"Yes Sir. Can we use STUN?"
"Negative. STUN might harm children and that's unacceptable."
Then the officer on the Star:
"Emperor's Secretary, this is General Endor Command. I have to hologram him, but it's not going through."
"He's busy."
"Our troops are under attack and I require a kill order signed by him."
"I'm sorry General, but he said explicitly that he is not to be disturbed by anyone."
"Our troops are under fire right now by children."
"By the force, kids? What are you doing?"
"We're standing fast. What, do you think I'm a monster?"
"Oh good, you scared me for a minute. What are you going to do?"
"Bacta tanks are ready. They're just using sticks. We can write off the AT-ATs, but Engineering's going to be pissed."
Re:Snooze. (Score:3, Insightful)
No, if Han shot first he'd be dead, because he'd have missed. "Shoots first" implies that someone shoots second.
Re:I was hoping for a rickroll (Score:5, Insightful)
Here's the thing (gawd help me...), had he done that, he'd have created an alternate reality where Anakin never goes to the dark side. The emperor never gets granted emergency powers, the Jedi have no reason to go arrest Sidious. Not to mention the fact that Anakin's turn to the dark side hinged on this razor-thin guise of going from "he should be tried in court" to cutting off Mace Windu's hand and going all "I'll even murder innocent children!" on us.
Seriously? He has an ethical problem with killing a known sith lord. He has an ethical problem with killing Sidious without a proper trial, but the young ones have to die to save Padme? WTF? :P
Re:I was hoping for a rickroll (Score:4, Insightful)
I remember reading an essay by David Brin that was highly critical of Star Wars. While I think Brin went over the top on a few things, the one thing he pointed out, though it applied to RotJ, was just how horrible the basic plotting was (think about it, the second Death Star was already doomed, and pretty much everything Luke and Vader did in toppling the Emperor was pointless, because all the legwork had been done by Han and the Ewoks on the surface and by the Alliance fleet and Lando up in space).
You can see that in the RotS as well. Lucas is a terrible writer, and you can see how he got far in the script before realizing that he hadn't given enough reasons for Anakin to turn bad, so suddenly, instead of a gradual build up of evil, which he had seemed willing to do in AotC with the Anakin killing the Sandpeople bit, he rushed the whole seduction thing into what looked like a matter of hours or days. Hence, none of it makes a lot of sense, Anakin literally turns to the Dark Side like someone would flick a switch.
They say the best Star Wars was The Empire Strikes Back, because Lucas's involvement was at its lowest ebb. A compelling and sensible plot, real character growth (by pretty much all the characters), all of the standard compasses we measure a good story by, were present. The deeper Lucas reaches into things, the worse they get, and because Lucas was most definitely the man in charge in the prequels, they, despite all the special effects, story-wise just plain suck.
Re:I was hoping for a rickroll (Score:2, Insightful)
I always assumed that the dark side was powerful enough to exploit surface-level frustrations into full-fledged evil tendencies. Anakin was already dark side, from at least the killing of the Sandpeople or possibly even further back. But he didn't acknowledge it until then, and didn't know that it had already taken him over.
Not to say Lucas's writing is great... I'm sure I'm giving him more credit than deserved.
Re:I was hoping for a rickroll (Score:3, Insightful)
Funny? PM was actually a pretty good movie, all things considered. It had an engaging, complex plot (try explaining everything important in 30 seconds). Beautiful visuals and choreography. Solid performance by Liam Neeson.
Taken in isolation -- if there had been no Star Wars movies before this -- it would be universally admired by critics the general public. I just think people had too many expectations for it.
Re:I was hoping for a rickroll (Score:3, Insightful)
I never got this discussion, or the seemingly huge plot hole and/or Jedi fuckup. Anakin is prophesied to bring balance to the Force..
Ok.. so how does this mean training him isn't the worst idea ever in the history of the universe..? I mean, hundreds of powerful, wize Jedi on the Light side. One single (albeit powerful) old Sith Lord on the Dark side. WTF? Did these Jedi, in all their wisdom, actually think that "Bringing balance to the Force" meant "Giving the by far most powerful side even more gunpower."..?
Re:I was hoping for a rickroll (Score:1, Insightful)
There's nothing memorable about Phantom Menace. The characters are unremarkable and the story is bland. Lucas completely screwed the pooch and squandered his legacy.
Re:I was hoping for a rickroll (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:I was hoping for a rickroll (Score:3, Insightful)
Actually, He is a fairly good actor (I wouldn't say great, but a solid actor). The problem is the roles that you listed. The roles he was typecast in after Star Wars was that of stuffy heroes like Luke, and Blair from Wing Commander. The roles where he truly shines are those that are the polar opposite of that -- Batshit crazy supervillains. His best roles were the Joker, The trickster from The Flash, and he was one of the few good parts in Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back as Cocknocker. Plus he is better as a voice actor than anything.
Also, I like Harrison Ford, but you can't really say that he expanded that much. The last twenty years have mostly featured him in the role of bad-ass guy trying to get back his kidnapped family members.