Occupy Flash? 507
mcgrew writes "CNN is reporting another Occupy movement — Occupy Flash. Their aim: get rid of Flash completely. They explain: 'Why does it matter when HTML5 has clearly won the fight for the future of our web browsing? Well, as we've seen with other outdated web technologies (most notably the much-lamented Internet Explorer 6), as long as software is installed on machines, there will be a contingent of decision makers who mandate its use, and there will be a requirement of continued support, the plugin will live on, and folks will continue to develop for it.' In response, a group of Flash developers have started Occupy HTML in Flash's defense. Popcorn, anyone?"
Re:Occupy HTML, written in HTML (Score:3, Informative)
Re:"I hate flash" is the new "I hate Microsoft" (Score:4, Informative)
It's pretty awful on OS X as well. Flash 10 needed about 6x more CPU on OS X than Windows and crashed every 10 minutes or so. According to this elderly benchmark anyway.
http://arstechnica.com/software/news/2008/10/benchmarking-flash-player-10.ars [arstechnica.com]
Re:Unfortunate (Score:5, Informative)
Responsibility, and accountability for the wealthy few who direct the country. Focusing more on leading the country (and to an extent, even the world) and it's people to a more financially suitable situation for everyone, and not just the wealthiest few?
People may be focused on different aspects related to that, but I'd call that the overall goal. Changing the government, and allowing government control over more things isn't the way to go about it, changing the mindsets of those individuals with disproportionately more power, who make the decisions, is what is needed, and I think that's what most of the people in the occupy movement are trying for.
Re:pissing contests (Score:5, Informative)
Somebody forgot about Flash games and animations (like Homestar Runner), quite possibly the most legitimate uses for Flash in existence that HTML5 couldn't replicate nearly as well, what with varying implementations and a constantly changing standard.
Re:I propose we Occupy "Occupy" (Score:5, Informative)
um - ITS THE PEOPLE (finally, i knew they were somewhere) not a corporation... people that don't hire other people to lie full-time on the TV for them, so maybe it is a little less presentable to the media at large.. I think i'm okay with that.
The grass is greener on the other side (Score:5, Informative)
Now if you hit a page with a few Flash-like HTML animations, they'll all be in contention on the same thread, running off timers and generally chugging. And hardware accelerated video? Screw that, you're stuck with WebM or whatever else can be called the lowest common denominator.
Ten times bigger. (Score:4, Informative)
I think they should open it, and it should not be plugin, but a protocol
Adobe's way ahead of you. It relicensed the Flash spec as part of the Open Screen Project.
And you do not need flash for playing video
But you do need Flash for playing vector animations like Weebl and Bob. Otherwise, you have to render each frame of the SWF to produce mp4 and webm files, and in my tests, those end up ten times bigger than the SWF.
Re:Unfortunate (Score:5, Informative)
it's weird that with so many years of perspective people still refer to Soviet Russia as a communist system.
the primary political aspect of soviet russia was totalitarianism, not communism.
Stalin murdered 20 million russians, not counting deaths during the war.
he used enforced wide-scale mass-starvation as a weapon, for example.
that kind of terror is not a feature of communism, that's a feature of totalitarianism.
ditto china, ditto nazi germany.
for further reading, check out "Koba the Dread: Laughter and the Twenty Million" by Martin Amis, or "The Origins of Totalitarianism" by Hannah Arendt.