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TV Isn't Broken, So Why Fix It? 839

PolygamousRanchKid sends this quote from a contentious article at CNN that questions the need for further development of TVs and the entire TV-viewing experience. "The technology industry is absolutely bent on reinventing television. ... But nobody seems to be able to answer the big question: what exactly is so broken about TV anyway? The tech industry is filled with engineers and geeks. They naturally want to optimize the TV experience, to make it as efficient and elegant as possible, requiring the fewest number of steps to complete a particular task while offering the greatest number of amazing new features. But normal people don't think about TV that way. TV is passive. The last thing we want to do is work at it. ... As long as there's something on — anything — that is reasonably engaging, we're cool. Most of us are even OK spending a few minutes just shuffling through channels at random." So, what do you think is broken about TV right now? Is there a point at which it'd be better for us to stand back and say "We've done what we can with this. Let's work on something else"?
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TV Isn't Broken, So Why Fix It?

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  • TV ain't broken? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by mholve ( 1101 ) on Monday December 05, 2011 @03:28PM (#38269834)

    Have you SEEN what's on TV?

  • What Indeed (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Moheeheeko ( 1682914 ) on Monday December 05, 2011 @03:29PM (#38269868)
    What is so broken about TV? It isnt giving tv manufacturers ample reason to charge onbcene ammounts for a new tv.

    Now a 3-d tv, thats a good reason to spend 2k on right?

    Right?

  • by Sez Zero ( 586611 ) on Monday December 05, 2011 @03:30PM (#38269872) Journal

    TV is broken because, with a few exceptions, content is tied to a specific time and location.

    I want to be able to watch my favorite shows when I remember I want to watch them, not a time set by someone else. I also don't always want to watch them from home.

    Take away Tivo, Slingbox, etc and these things are not possible.

  • by InsightIn140Bytes ( 2522112 ) on Monday December 05, 2011 @03:32PM (#38269920)
    I don't watch much TV because I just don't have the time, but there's lots of good shows I'd like to watch. The Office, The Simpsons, Pan Am, How I Met Your Mother, Eureka, Conan, Modern Family, The Big Bang Theory, Person of Interest, Chuck... And I haven't even checked the news shows. And those are on top of the one or two I watch from my own country.

    Then there's all of those on break, like Futurama and Californication... There's great amount of good shows to watch, so it isn't that.
  • advertising (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Quirkz ( 1206400 ) <ross AT quirkz DOT com> on Monday December 05, 2011 @03:33PM (#38269936) Homepage
    The only thing broken about TV is the massive proportion of it dedicated to advertising instead of actual content.
  • by SomePgmr ( 2021234 ) on Monday December 05, 2011 @03:33PM (#38269960) Homepage
    I'll take a crack at this.

    It's expensive as hell.
    The cost exaggerates how much crap there is to sift through to find anything worth watching.
    Often the "worth watching" query comes back empty.
    The STB's are universally awful.
    Even if you DVR and FFwd, the commercials are an annoyance.

    I'm sure there's more... but that's what I can think of off the top of my head.
  • Commercials. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by mosb1000 ( 710161 ) <mosb1000@mac.com> on Monday December 05, 2011 @03:33PM (#38269962)

    Commercials, among other things. Because everything has to be dumbed down to gain mass market appeal and advertising dollars, there is a real lack of quality programming. But hopefully we may see the internet change all that, once all the DMCA type shenanigans come to an end, and people figure out that you can still charge for content even if people steal it.

  • Simple... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Jawnn ( 445279 ) on Monday December 05, 2011 @03:33PM (#38269968)
    Too many fake reality shows. Way too many. Less Jersey Shore, Lady Hoggers, and the like, and it will be just fine.
  • More control (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 05, 2011 @03:34PM (#38269978)

    Because it is passive, they cannot measure the degree of effectiveness of their mass control initiatives, resulting in more time and money spent to repeat the message enough to guarantee assimilation. They want ways of getting feedback.

  • by somersault ( 912633 ) on Monday December 05, 2011 @03:34PM (#38269984) Homepage Journal

    Apparently they don't care

    As long as there's something on â" anything â" that is reasonably engaging, we're cool. Most of us are even OK spending a few minutes just shuffling through channels at random

    That was acceptable when there was no other option, and when you were just wanting to relax for a while. There are much better alternatives now though. Even if those alternatives also involve just passively watching media, why should you settle just for something "reasonably engaging" - probably punctuated by ads every 10-15 minutes - when you have streaming options available? Even before I overcame my strange desire to build a collection of media, I much preferred simply buying everything outright than putting up with adverts. These days I'm happy with streaming and rentals.

  • by forgottenusername ( 1495209 ) on Monday December 05, 2011 @03:34PM (#38269990)

    Why should I pay for a bunch of channels and service I don't want?

    If they offered modular, on demand service I wouldn't have to monkey around with xbmc, encoding etc.

    Services like on-demand streaming of movies/tv where you pay exactly what you want are the future. The cable company can't let go of their monolithic 'screw you cuz we can & always have' thinking. Eventually they will go the way of the labels as far as monopoly via audio CD's - technology will evolve past them (already is/has) and they'll just be left waving their wizened fists angrily, struggling for relevance and trying to screw people over with control of cable internet.

  • by InsightIn140Bytes ( 2522112 ) on Monday December 05, 2011 @03:34PM (#38269992)
    If you haven't turned the TV on in five years, how can you know the shows aren't worth watching? Or are you just rambling the way old people always do "things were so much better before"...
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 05, 2011 @03:35PM (#38270006)

    What's broken about TV? This: the vast majority of the content is utter crap pandering to the lowest common denominator.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 05, 2011 @03:36PM (#38270040)

    That's a writing/funding problem, NOT a technical issue.

    From a technical standpoint, TV has been fine for decades....

  • by Jeremiah Cornelius ( 137 ) on Monday December 05, 2011 @03:36PM (#38270052) Homepage Journal

    My response to the question as well. The problem with TV is not technology.

    What is broken about TV is content. Direct TV is amazing! There are now 1000 channels, with nothing on. The technology improved this from 50, a mere decade ago.

    I don't wan' a "History" channel that gives a platform to observe crackers welding hotrods, or a chance to watch "Like Water for Elephants" at 7.99 USD.

    I am afraid to even ask about the listing: "Dave's Old Porn".

  • What's broken? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by AdamJS ( 2466928 ) on Monday December 05, 2011 @03:36PM (#38270056)

    Nothing.

    THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
    How's a TV manufacturer supposed to get more money if people aren't buying new TVs/their current doesn't have planned obsolescence?
    Then there's that pesky "internet" that's killing the cable cash cow.

  • It's just on. (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Animats ( 122034 ) on Monday December 05, 2011 @03:37PM (#38270068) Homepage

    About half of TV is not "watched". It's just "on". (Radio is almost entirely in the "just on" mode today.) A sizable, although shrinking, fraction of the population likes the rigid schedule of TV shows.

    3D TV was an awful idea. Everything, including the viewer, has to be positioned properly for it to work. If you lie down on the couch watching a 3D TV, you will have an eyestrain-inducing experience as your eyes try to converge on misaligned images.

  • by SomePgmr ( 2021234 ) on Monday December 05, 2011 @03:37PM (#38270080) Homepage
    Oh, and the part that really gets me... to go from 1 show worth watching to 2 shows worth watching, you'll need to up your package with another 30 awful channels for an additional $20 in MRC.

    And want to watch on another TV? That'll be another $5-10 a month.

    Oh and don't pick a movie from the on demand, you'll have to mortgage the house and you'll only have access for the next 24-48 hours.
  • by Anrego ( 830717 ) * on Monday December 05, 2011 @03:38PM (#38270090)

    It's actually starting to improve..

    There are some honest to god sitcoms popping up. Still not worth getting my cable back yet, but it at least looks like the reality TV thing is starting to fade.

  • Re:advertising (Score:5, Insightful)

    by DaffyDuck101 ( 247015 ) on Monday December 05, 2011 @03:38PM (#38270114)

    The advertising IS the actual content. What's in between is just there to keep you watching between ads.

  • by Anrego ( 830717 ) * on Monday December 05, 2011 @03:41PM (#38270172)

    While I too tend to prefer buying a series and watching it straight through (I don't care about the advertisements, more the lack of waiting a week between each chunk), I also fondly remember the "sit back and casually watch whatever is on" thing.

    Discovery channel, comedy central, and TLC (back when it was about learning and not decorating houses..) were great for this style of consumption.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 05, 2011 @03:41PM (#38270178)

    The model itself.

    Originally it was said it'd be subsidized by ads. Try running a stopwatch during primetime...at least ten years ago you could get nearly 45% or more advertising in movies, and 30% plus in 30 minute specials.

    In theory--cable would cover this cost. Except instead you just get more channels with the same unsolicited bulk broadcast.

    To go away from that, you need...oh... pay per view. Costs as much as renting the fucking thing, plus delivery.

    Or you can get HBO or cinemax which at a minimum of about 15 a month is near worthless assuming you want to watch a movie once a week, but are only a 1 in 4 chance of enjoying any given movie.

    So you get to pay about $100 a month or more in order to have irrelevant ads slung at you. And then you have that nice awkward experience of sitting down to watch something with your parents when a 'little blue pill' commercial comes on. Or a public service announcement. Or somebody asking for my money to feed children so they can take their 80% administrative fee.

    Let's try to sum up the problems with TV:
        - too much advertisement
        - not enough relevant content
        - cable top boxes making it hard to space shift in my home
        - artificial difficulty in time and space shifting
        - viagra
        - inability to watch when I want
        - insufficient box office content
        - serials pushed all over the fucking place by sports
        - networks moving things to different times, days, or even other networks
        - reruns.
        - It's damned near impossible to get a tv guide in paper.
        - The digital tv guides don't work reliably unless you have a cable box (and those are hard to scan quickly since the boxes are slow)
        - Oh yeah, the boxes are slow
        - A thousand other things

    Please, can we just brutally fucking murder the entertainment industry for holding something that was a simple, easy, functional service utilizing public spectrum utterly hostage?

  • by 0100010001010011 ( 652467 ) on Monday December 05, 2011 @03:42PM (#38270204)

    The way TV currently works I'm asked to conform to a schedule set by an Exec that thinks will bring in the most eyeballs. When I was growing up (before we had a VCR) we would schedule our lives around what TV shows we wanted to watch. I remember that Monday was usually take out or quick meal night because that's when my mom wanted to watch her shows. New TV shows were introduced after the old ones we already liked. How many sitcoms were stuck in the spot after "Friends" in the hope that it would draw people too lazy to change the channel?

    My setup right now is SickBeard to Sabnzbd+ to XBMC. I paid $50 for a block of 1TB that I've been using since the middle of last year. I don't know and I don't care when most of the TV shows I watch are on. My TV time is usually midnight to 4 am. I'm in grad school, work and do a ton of other stuff on campus (Swing Club, international cooking classes, hang out with friends).

    Every TV show I currently watch has come from a suggestion from a friend, Slashdot, Reddit, or Fark. To avoid the disappointment that follows numerous shows I usually wait until the 3rd or 4th season to get into them. I just started Dexter this year. I watched all previous seasons in the span of 3-4 months. I literally just started Farscape. Breaking Bad, Community, Game of Thrones, It's Always Sunny, Chuck, etc. All came from suggestions.

    Then you have "Well if it's not in the #1 spot, it's failing" mentality of broadcast TV. Community is one of my favorite shows. Season 1 had me in stitches with some of the episodes. I lost it at the first Halloween episode when Abed was Batman. But NBC decided to bench it so "Whitney" and some other female comedian can get a boilerplated TV show. Cable TV is much better. HBO & Showtime seemingly don't care their global rankings but more about if they can get a core group of die hard fans. But those are "premium" channels and I'm sure as hell not going to pay $100+ a month to get them (because you need to add all the other channels I don't want). Chuck was brought back by a fan campaign and I'm glad taht it's going to get a proper final season but NBC seems intent to kill it anyway I heard they shifted it to something like Fridays. Because 18-30 year olds aren't doing anything else on Fridays? Seriously.

    Give me a legal torrent seconds after the TV show ends leave in the commercials and I'll watch it. But until then I can't imagine going back to "Oh, this airs Thursdays at 4"

  • by shaitand ( 626655 ) on Monday December 05, 2011 @03:43PM (#38270226) Journal

    TV is different from streaming in that content is pushed to you rather than pulled by you. Although I like the empowerment of pulling all my content pulling means that I mostly pull the content that is in my comfort zone and that I am already somewhat familiar with. Movies with actors I've enjoyed in the past or even that i've already seen and really enjoyed. The amount of exposure to new actors and new content is limited. For instance I will pull the latest season of dexter because I enjoy the show but I wouldn't be likely to pull the big bang theory because I've never seen it.

    However with broadcast TV I might stumble onto the big bang theory and leave it on a few minutes and find I enjoy it. Then I can go download the rest and watch it marathon style without commercials if I so choose.

  • by JSBiff ( 87824 ) on Monday December 05, 2011 @03:44PM (#38270238) Journal
    • Not easy to interface third party DVRs, computers, etc to cable boxes/cable systems. Cable card seems a broken and dead standard. Wouldn't be a problem except encryption means you can't just hook any potential HD TV equipment you might have to the cable and expect it to be able to receive all channels.
    • Still based around a temporal "broadcast" paradigm of "you watch it when we air it or you have to record it yourself for later viewing". Why not make all TV on-demand (except for, perhaps, special news coverage in an emergency, live speeches, etc (and even those could be made available on-demand afterwords). There has been some progress towards on-demand TV by cable operators, but still doesn't cover all programming.
    • I have to pay for channels I never watch and don't want. Please un-bundle tv channels. I'd like to take it a step further and have reasonable prices for individual shows/series. I mean, maybe I want to watch one series from HBO or Showtime or AMC or whoever, but don't care about the rest of their programming. Why can't I pay for access to just that series, and to be able to watch past seasons, etc?
    • High-Def-Copy-Protection (HDCP). Seriously, I hate DRM. I'm not trying to rip off the TV companies. I just want to be able to watch HD movies and TV shows which I've legally payed for and acquired access to, on my circa 2006 computer monitor, from my computer, without having to buy a *different* monitor, just because my "old" monitor doesn't support HDCP.
  • by kelemvor4 ( 1980226 ) on Monday December 05, 2011 @03:45PM (#38270272)
    A thing does not have to be "broken" in order for change/progress to be made. Telephones weren't "broken" when cellular phones were invented, and the horse drawn carriage wasn't "broken" when the automobile was invented. It isn't broken, companies are just trying to make money by making progress in a technology that people are interested in.
  • by kakris ( 126307 ) on Monday December 05, 2011 @03:46PM (#38270278)

    There is absolutely no reason in with today's technology that we can't have real video on demand. There is no reason I shouldn't be able to watch any show I want, whenever I want. If the providers want to include commercials, then so be it, but they're delaying the inevitable and forcing people into piracy with limited availability of programming online and by only allowing viewing within a limited window. The major television providers now offer "on demand" services, but these have serious limitations. All they're doing is giving people a taste for what could be. A cable company that offered true video on demand could absolutely clean up in the market, but the content providers are far to unwilling to shift their business models to match the desires of consumers. 50 years from now, children will express disbelief when told that you had to wait for a specific time to watch your favorite program, much like I had a hard time I had as a child grasping that television used to be only black and white.

  • by apdyck ( 1010443 ) <aaron.p.dyckNO@SPAMgmail.com> on Monday December 05, 2011 @03:46PM (#38270282) Homepage Journal
    The very fundamental principle of using television as a revenue generator is broken. I would gladly pay for a service that allowed me to watch whatever shows I wanted, when I wanted, with no commercial interruption. I am not willing to pay for a service that forces me to watch three minutes out of ten of commercials, and I certainly don't like to adjust my viewing schedule to accomodate the shows I want to watch! It is much easier for me to download shows and watch them later than it is for me to be in front of my television while they are being broadcast. If I want to watch a live event, such as a sports game, I can always head to the local pub and watch it there. I currently have basic cable and I pay ten dollars a month for it. The only reason I have that is that I purchase my internet through the cable company and, even paying $120 for the whole year, I was able to save a bunch of money on my Internet services ($300 off over three months, plus a 5% discount on my total bill, that amounts to a savings of $240 over the course of a year). I rarely turn it on. Not even for sporting events. Fix the delivery system and make it more accessible. Charge based on what you watch, rather than what channels you watch. If I was charged $0.25-0.50 per show I watched I would be inclined to watch more. But paying a monthly fee for a bunch of stuff I will never watch? Not worth the money.
  • by s1d3track3D ( 1504503 ) on Monday December 05, 2011 @03:47PM (#38270296)
    Exactly. You know the saying there are 500+ channels and nothing is on.

    For me TV is broken because I should be able to watch anything I want when I want.

    I should be able to click on the TV and watch any episode of the original Star Trek (for example) at any time (it would also be nice to have a 'you may also enjoy', or 'related' to learn about things I may not be familiar with in the genre [or, perish the thought, new programs in development])

    TV should be at my control 'for my entertainment', not treat me as a passive audience for what ever is programmed at whatever time.

    (Yes, I realize this is probably not a realistic expectation. I am also aware of the wide array of recording devices, Tivo, etc as well as Movie streaming devices. (Roku, etc) I also realize that the blocker in my vision is more about licensing then technology, still, this is how I would like 'TV' to work)
  • by bazorg ( 911295 ) on Monday December 05, 2011 @03:47PM (#38270304)

    "So, what do you think is broken about TV right now? "

    I'm a spectator so maybe that question could be answered by a different type of stakeholder. The stakeholder who might be interested in using the Kinect to ensure that adverts stop while the spectators go to the toilet; or that stakeholder who wants internet streaming to be protected from skipping the commercials. That stakeholder will find plenty things broken in the current state of the TV technology.

  • by blueg3 ( 192743 ) on Monday December 05, 2011 @03:47PM (#38270314)

    Even Apple knows that you wouldn't spend $1500 for an Apple TV. That's probably why that product is $100.

  • by elrous0 ( 869638 ) * on Monday December 05, 2011 @03:48PM (#38270320)

    Yeah, 90% of everything is crap and always has been. That doesn't mean everything on TV sucks. There are a lot of great shows in that 10%. Unfortunately, they tend to get cancelled while shows like Keeping Up With the Kardashians get renewed. But 90% of people's tastes apparently suck too. Every time I get depressed about it, some great new show comes along to renew my faith.

  • by kwark ( 512736 ) on Monday December 05, 2011 @03:49PM (#38270356)

    So how is TV broken again? Did someone take away Tivo or slingbox?

  • by sunderland56 ( 621843 ) on Monday December 05, 2011 @03:51PM (#38270384)

    That's a writing/funding problem, NOT a technical issue.

    This.

    People will happily watch YouTube clips at 480 x 320 resolution, low frame rate, highly compressed, on their smartphones. Technology is not the answer.

  • by FictionPimp ( 712802 ) on Monday December 05, 2011 @04:00PM (#38270554) Homepage

    You should see the look of shock I get when I tell people I do not have TV service. I have netflix, I have video games, I have a few other online content resources, but TV....not much worth paying for.

    I'd much rather wait for it to get to netflix, watch without commercials and see it on my own time, at my own pace. You want to fix TV? Let me buy what I want, when I want and watch it how I want.

  • by jtara ( 133429 ) on Monday December 05, 2011 @04:00PM (#38270568)

    Just discovering what programs are available is a huge problem outside of the conventional broadcast TV paradigm.

    Set-top box program schedules stink. Nobody buys the TV Guide any more. Yea, there are third-party (and cable-company supplied) program schedule apps, but most of them stink too. (Anybody else try the useless Cox schedule guide on iPad?) If you're really into it, there are web sites that discuss shows ad-infinitum I'd imagine, but most people won't bother, and don't want to sift through the crap.

    Finding on-demand programming is a hassle. You have to navigate with a horrible on-screen interface, and most people don't know what network a show they've heard about is on. So, they have to do a search, which is horribly painful. Click, click, click, click, there's ONE LETTER.

    Program discovery is so bad that most people revert to "what's on?" and flip through the channels. Even if a show is marketed heavily, and you see a banner drug by an airplane and wonder what's up with the guy that thinks he sees a dog, how many people are going to bother to painfully type-in "W _ I _ L _ F _ R _ E _ D when they get home, and then go through the rigmarole to set the VCR?

    The big problem is, there are so many choices that it takes major time to sift through them. You have to know what you are looking for, but how do you know what you are looking for in the first place? Sure, I can go to NetFlix and decide I want to see a Fellini film easily enough. (Though I'd be best served by going to the website and putting it in my Instant Queue than by navigating the horrible on-screen interface.) And, oh, BTW, they're going to have to mail me that Fellini film 90% of the time, so we're Not There Yet.

    Now, if the marketing says or even implies it's a prime-time show on a major network - you might remember the time-slot and go surfing for it if it's around that time. Otherwise, it's pretty hit-and-miss.

    Clearly, though, ultimately, scheduled programming (other than live events and breaking news) are inevitably going to go away. I think I think that's necessary to prepare the public is to change terminology. No more show times. They're release times.

    Every show should be available on-demand in some form. Some people will still eagerly anticipate "release times", and gather in front of the set to be the first to watch a show, just as some go out to a theater to see a movie when it's first released.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 05, 2011 @04:01PM (#38270578)

    > The Simpsons

    You lost your credibility right there, unless you're talking reruns that predate the second Bush administration.

  • by Attila Dimedici ( 1036002 ) on Monday December 05, 2011 @04:03PM (#38270618)
    From the way the summary frames the discussion (which I am assuming it gets from the article), both telephones and horse drawn carriages were "broken" at the times you specified. With horse drawn carriages there were two problems that automobiles solved. First, you had to fuel/feed your horse, even if you weren't going anywhere, an automobile you only have to fuel if you want to use it. Second, horse drawn carriages had a maximum sustainable speed that made travel of any significant distance (more than a few miles) a serious undertaking. As for telephones, people had to know specifically where you were and the number of the nearest telephone in order to get a hold of you. If you were someone who spent a good deal of time going from one place to another that made reaching you problematic.
  • by michrech ( 468134 ) on Monday December 05, 2011 @04:07PM (#38270670)

    I used to watch TLC pretty frequently. Now it's all programming about decorating things (houses, people, etc), pimping out your toddlers, and irresponsible child birth (both in having absurdly large families, and those that *somehow* "don't know" they're pregnant, etc)... Used to watch Planet Green until it started running reruns from other Discovery channels. I do watch a lot of Discovery Science, though I don't hold out much hope that Discovery Networks won't fuck that one up also. :(

  • by jedidiah ( 1196 ) on Monday December 05, 2011 @04:08PM (#38270686) Homepage

    Advertising is one of the big things that is currently broken about TV. There's too much of "ads as content" as well as changing rules regarding how much of normal content can be mired in ads. This has led to a dichotomy between "prime time" content and reruns and the butchery of older works.

    The creation of my own media stockpile began in earnest when I noticed the escalation of this butchery. They effect has become more pronounced and has negatively impacted the overall experience.

    Beyond that, the PVR already liberated us from the centralized planning of network schedules and the problems of trying to chase shows around the schedule. The PVR also helps you find the stuff that's not total dreck.

    TV without a PVR is most certainly broken and only getting worse.

  • by NatasRevol ( 731260 ) on Monday December 05, 2011 @04:13PM (#38270776) Journal

    This is fundamentally what's wrong with TV. The subscription model.

    I dont want 1000 channels of random cram, repeated every 4 hours. You're going to get repeat crap when there's 1000 channels to fill.

    I want about 25 channels of stuff that *I* want to watch. And I want to be able to actually chose those channels. And add or subtract channels I'm (not) interested in. I don't ever want to see a hunting/cooking/househunting show. But I do want to to watch hockey games/history/movies. You can't, the subscription model says you have to have both.

    If the price is $1.99/channel/month, I'd get what I want for about the same price without having to surf the channel guide regularly.

  • by Marc_Hawke ( 130338 ) on Monday December 05, 2011 @04:15PM (#38270820)

    Speed:
                Channel switching speed: It keeps getting worse. Analog TV's were instant channel switchers. Even analog TV's with digital readouts were instant switchers. "Digital" TV can't do that. Cable boxes and their insane 'menuing' system. It's supposed to help you see what's on, but it makes 'flipping through the channels' more like 'trudging' through the channels. Even with OTA HDTV, there's a pause while it gets enough signal to show you a picture. They need to be working on eliminating that pause.
                BOOT up speed: I'm lucky. I have an HD CRT. There aren't many of those. You push power, the screen makes a funny noise. The CRT warms up in a second or two. You're in business. The experiences I've had with LCD screens aren't good. When you turn it on, you get a POST screen, a manufacturer logo, some other 'boot-up' processes. It takes a LONG TIME. If I had one of those I'd be tempted to never turn it off because I wouldn't want to wait through the boot-up. That definitely needs to be fixed. If there was ever a place for 'instant on' technology, it's in the TV.

    Cost:
                    It's hard for me to complain here because I don't pay for it, but I think the fact that I refuse to pay for it should say something. I've never caved to the 'Pay TV' bandwagon. No cable, no satellite. Over the Air all the way. I actually do pay for TV now. It's called Netflix. It's $8 instead of $50, and I get to pick what's on. (And no commercials.) Pay TV is way too expensive and doesn't make any sense. That needs to be fixed.
                    Now to be hypocritical. My wife won't watch commercials. She rather skip the program than watch a commercial. Not only is she always annoyed by them, she's often offended by them. I'm pretty sure commercials are the most heavily studied aspect of Television, so I don't really have any suggestions that the 'experts' haven't already beaten to death.

    As for Content. I don't think that's part of the discussion. (We'll at least the FA. which I didn't read.) The shows are not the technology. I don't think you can 'fix' the shows. That's like dictating what music will be popular with teenagers. Good luck with that.

  • by couchslug ( 175151 ) on Monday December 05, 2011 @04:17PM (#38270852)

    "how can you know the shows aren't worth watching?"

    Because TV has always been designed for the lowest common denominator. IMO it should stay that way as a walled garden of shit.

    I've had it on because the wife uses it for background noise due to severe tinnitus.

    TV was shit and is shit with only a microscopic percentage of worthwhile content easily surpassed by the Internet.

  • by vlm ( 69642 ) on Monday December 05, 2011 @04:19PM (#38270888)

    Advertising is one of the big things that is currently broken about TV. There's too much of "ads as content" as well as changing rules regarding how much of normal content can be mired in ads. This has led to a dichotomy between "prime time" content and reruns and the butchery of older works.

    Want to vomit? Try watching old "twilight zone" reruns. The original 1/2 hour episodes were about 25 minutes in the old days. Recent hack jobs have that scarcely over 15 minutes now. With automatic hands free Mythtv commercial skipping, I can watch 4 "half hour" episodes in a bit more than an hour.

    So much is edited out that some episodes don't make sense anymore. Entire scenes gone. Sometimes they chop out to an ad in the middle of dialog.

    The original 25 minute episodes are still available via DVD and of course torrents. I'm pretty close to switching to that instead of watching the sad "broadcasts".

  • by Arrogant-Bastard ( 141720 ) on Monday December 05, 2011 @04:26PM (#38271044)
    1. Dump all "reality" shows.
    2. Get rid of the incredibly annoying pop-ups during programs. Seriously, I stopped watching "Rubicon", which had at least some promise, because these are horribly disruptive and offensive.
    3. Convince the History Channel, the Learning Channel, the Discovery Channel, to focus on actual history and actual science...and not myth, superstition, and nonsense.
    4. Please note that #3 does not cover Mythbusters, which, while occasionally a bit self-indulgent, at least features actual experiments.
    5. Try showing movies without censoring, interrupting or editing them.
    6. Stop remaking things. Hawaii 5-0 (among many, MANY others) did not need to be remade, and you're embarrassing yourselves, as well as putting crap on the air.
    7. Lose the talking heads on news. Lose the theme music, lose the captions, lose the scroll, lose the catchy titles for every major news event. Try something different: sober, reasoned, analysis. Don't tell me that "you only 20 seconds left to discuss this"; you're a fricking network, all you HAVE is time. And stop pretending that there are two sides to every story: when one side is obviously insane, lying, or stupid, there aren't. Instead: call them on it.
    8. There are occasional treasures in the archives. Not only should you air them, you should back them up to the world by posting them for free, unlimited download.
    9. Run all commercials by a panel of 15-year-olds. If even they mock it, then what reaction do you think intelligent adults will have?
    10. Teach everyone on your staff that "/" is a slash, not a backslash. Make it a policy that you will instantly fire anyone who calls it a backslash. If they do so on-air, then armed security should tackle them, handcuff them, and drag them off the set while the cameras are running. (Okay, so this one is selfish. But I would it find it immensely satisfying to watch.)
  • by fyngyrz ( 762201 ) on Monday December 05, 2011 @04:29PM (#38271100) Homepage Journal

    You're over-complicating the content.

    Seriously, there is about zero content that isn't badly drawn cartoons, sitcoms/dramas written so as to be palatable to 90-IQ types, straight-up propaganda, or infomercials.

    Almost the only things worth watching come from sources other than the networks. And if something DOES come along worth watching, they cancel it right around episode 14.

    If it weren't for some of the productions you can buy on DVD and Bluray... and some streaming... I don't think I'd even own a TV today. But some of the movies make it all worth it for me.

    My dad used to say something along these lines: "Of all the technologies that he was aware of, television both had the greatest potential, and was the furthest from even approaching its potential." It took me some exploring, but I've decided he was spot-on.

  • by Marrow ( 195242 ) on Monday December 05, 2011 @04:34PM (#38271190)

    Maybe you don't remember the programming in the old days. It was horrible. It seemed like there was one or two shows a decade that were worth watching. The movies were bad too. We see old movies and old tv shows now that are chosen because they were the watchable ones.
    Today we are spoiled for choice. There are lots of shows worth watching. Sometimes two a day on the same channel. And there are more than 3 channels now. There used to be very few channels.

  • by Jeremiah Cornelius ( 137 ) on Monday December 05, 2011 @04:35PM (#38271216) Homepage Journal

    Satellite and cable are Dodos. The only reason the "market" hasn't kicked them to the curb is regulatory capture/incumbency.

    My kids watch whatever they want, when they want - legal or pirate stream - on laptops. They started this at 8 years. Noone told 'em if it were legal. They'd just google "watch futurama".

     

  • Re:Set-top boxes (Score:5, Insightful)

    by nine-times ( 778537 ) <nine.times@gmail.com> on Monday December 05, 2011 @04:40PM (#38271280) Homepage

    THAT's what's broken about TV - and I don't see Apple TV or any of these other gizmos fixing that, unless they accept CableCard.

    I think you're so close on this one, but what's broken about TVs will not be fixed when the AppleTV supports CableCard, but when the AppleTV has no reason to support CableCard. In my view, the problem is the cable companies themselves, or rather the whole setup of having a "cable company".

    With digital video and the Internet working the way it does, why on earth should I be locked into a specific provider by my geographic location? Why should I need to buy/rent specific hardware for that provider? Why should that provider be broadcasting video on channels, where I'm locked into watching shows on specific channels in a specific order at a specific time of day?

    Now I won't be shocked if some people disagree with me here, but in my view, this is one of those things where things were developed at some point based on the restrictions at the time, but if you were building things today, you wouldn't design it this way. Like someone comes in and says:

    I have a great idea for a Netflix competitor. It's just like Netflix, but without a good recommendation engine, you have to watch things on our schedule, we force you to watch ads, and we force you into renting hardware instead of watching it on your regular set-top box. Oh, and the set-top boxes we provide are absolute crap, which makes browsing frustrating. And it's great that browsing is terrible, because you have to browse through a million terrible 'channels' of time-locked content looking for something to watch. And best of all, we'll charge 10 times as much as Netflix!

    Now image that. Who listens to that and says, "Oh, that's a great idea!"

  • by jedidiah ( 1196 ) on Monday December 05, 2011 @04:42PM (#38271302) Homepage

    Cable Card is the last dying breath of the dinosaur. It's primarily a means to enforce an outdated status quo. It exists becuase there are too many monopoly vendors in the industry including those that provide particular bits of content and those that can deliver it to the consumer. All of them want to fight the future.

    Cable Card and all of it's associated nonsense is the manifestation of that.

    It's great. Assuming it actually works and your local cable operator doesn't knarfle it with the wrong DRM codes.

    Plus you have to be willing to use your local cable operator since it doesn't work with satellite competitors.

    Like I said... It's all about keeping the dinosaur alive.

  • by Sebastopol ( 189276 ) on Monday December 05, 2011 @04:45PM (#38271348) Homepage

    "Please, can we just brutally fucking murder the entertainment industry for holding something that was a simple, easy, functional service utilizing public spectrum utterly hostage?"

    The solution is infinitely easier:

    Turn off your TV. Cancel your cable.

    Problem solved.

  • by Joce640k ( 829181 ) on Monday December 05, 2011 @04:46PM (#38271370) Homepage

    I don't watch much TV because I just don't have the time

    This neatly answers the question of what's wrong with TV: It doesn't fit into people's schedules. If you're not available when the TV company is broadcasting then you're out of luck.

    Then there's all the timewasting adverts. You might think a show starts at 10:30 but the broadcasters see the schedule time as a way to get you sitting down to watch a few adverts, nothing more. You might waste 20 minutes before it actually starts (at least, that's what they do around here).

    Yes there's TIVO to timeshift things but it's only a half measure. You still have to be sitting in the right room in front of the right screen and you have to remember to program it to record the shows you want.

    So far the only answer to these problems has been BitTorrent. But if the MAFIAA gets their way then pretty soon you'll have the outside world disconnected and/or be sent to prison for doing that.

  • by bryan1945 ( 301828 ) on Monday December 05, 2011 @05:08PM (#38271692) Journal

    How about name something that was so profound and moving that it was absolutely critical that you see it. Ever.

  • by jedidiah ( 1196 ) on Monday December 05, 2011 @06:23PM (#38272870) Homepage

    It also has pretty crappy resolution and rather limited selection.

    All of the streaming services suffer from this same problem.

    They actually manage to make the visual quality of cable look good.

    Plus there's that whole potential problem of bandwidth caps.

    Capturing bits off of a "broadcast stream" makes more sense for a number of reasons.

  • by icebike ( 68054 ) on Monday December 05, 2011 @06:55PM (#38273322)

    The best thing about the Simpsons is that it's the best way to tell if someone's funny or not. If they quote it, they're not.

    For the word "funny", substitute "intelligent" and you are just as correct as your original statement.

    Discounting content, the problem with TV is Scheduled Delivery.

    People want to watch when they have time, not when the networks want them to watch. Some, like comcast have some shows that you can watch whenever you want, and lots of people use DVRs. But these are all crude means to get around the fact that the programs only appear on a schedule.

  • by Mista2 ( 1093071 ) on Monday December 05, 2011 @07:48PM (#38274082)

    Stop the stupid new format on discovery shows:
    Credits, 10 minutes telling you what's combing up in the show.
    Ad break
    Quick recap, some content, then a few more clips of things to come
    Ad break
    Recap of the previous segment, a little new content, and again the same 10 second teaser clip
    Adbreak
    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz oh shit, I go so bored I switched it off, so I don't know what comes next.

  • by CrimsonAvenger ( 580665 ) on Monday December 05, 2011 @07:56PM (#38274176)

    Early days of television introduced viewers to drama playhouse productions, singing by people who actually had crafted their talent for decades rather than learned to moan into a microphone at the age of sixteen, presented thoughtful roundtable discussions etc. In short, all the sort of stuff that catered to what was believed to be a cultured public with high expectations.

    I take it you weren't actually around for the early days of television?

    It is wishful thinking to believe that TV has changed much over the years - bad sitcoms are as old as TV (though I must admit to a fondness for Lucille Ball over much of what's on right now), one-sided roundtable discussions were all the rage, Bob Denver was playing idiots all the way back into the 50's, etc, etc, etc.

    If we'd wanted "culture", we'd have it on TV. But we don't, so it isn't.

    What we want is mostly light entertainment (which we generally get). Expecting TV to be more is a fantasy, since putting on hundreds of channels of culture will just get hundreds of channels ignored in favour of NCIS (go Abby!) or the Simpsons (which I, alas, have never watched, never having seen the appeal of a badly drawn primetime cartoon - Bugs Bunny I'll take, Bart Simpson I have no used for).....

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