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Ender's Game Trailer Released 470

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The first trailer has been released for the movie adaptation of Orson Scott Card's sci-fi classic Ender's Game. It gives us a good look at Harrison Ford as Colonel Graff, Ben Kingsley as Mazer Rackham, and Hugo's Asa Butterfield as Ender. It also demonstrates just how much money they put into the special effects for this movie.

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Ender's Game Trailer Released

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  • by Animats (122034) on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @04:00PM (#43658345) Homepage

    FX spaceships are cheap. The effects are no better than Iron Sky. Since this has Big Name Actors, they probably spent too much.

    In the book, the adults barely appear. But if they paid for Harrison Ford, they probably let him talk too much.

    • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @04:09PM (#43658441)

      FX spaceships are cheap. The effects are no better than Iron Sky. Since this has Big Name Actors, they probably spent too much.

      In the book, the adults barely appear. But if they paid for Harrison Ford, they probably let him talk too much.

      Just wait til the narrated cut comes out.

    • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward

      In the book, the adults barely appear. But if they paid for Harrison Ford, they probably let him talk too much.

      Why do you assume they'd need Ford to play an adult? With good makeup artists, you can do pretty much anything. They could have Ford playing Ender's desk chair.

    • I felt like it looked like Star Trek. I think I even saw Nero. I hope they actually tell the story and don't trim away the complex parts to appeal to a broader audience.
  • I can't see it. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by darkonc (47285) <stephen_samuel.bcgreen@com> on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @04:09PM (#43658427) Homepage Journal
    This is one book that I couldn't see Hollywood doing justice to. The trailer doesn't really leave me feeling any better about it. Lots of nice effects, but I think it's going to come out all bubble-gum.
    • Re:I can't see it. (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Attila Dimedici (1036002) on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @04:18PM (#43658553)
      Yeah, I wonder if they ruin it by missing the point the way the did with with David Brin's "Postman" (which would have won the Hugo and Nebula had it come out any other year).
    • by ArsonSmith (13997)

      10 years ago I would have said for sure they were just going to screw it up. Things have changed a lot in Hollywood. Where as before I would have given it a 10% chance of being any good, these days I give it closer to 50-50%

    • by fermion (181285) on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @05:57PM (#43659543) Homepage Journal
      Ender is, in a way, an update of Starship Trooppers, with much less military actions. This is a good time to make it because the drone warfare that will characterize any hypothetical interplanetary conflict is finally believable to the general public. Most scifi still has the 60's nostalgia of in person human fighter pilots. Otherwise it is not fair. They did ok with troopers

      OTOH making this movie should be like making lord of the flies. The intensity of violence is one of the drivers of the drama in the book. Which is why they may have a Ender that I too old. He should be 10 but how do you make such a film. It does not work I with teen angst, unlike troopers.

      So we will get some teen flick. With space battles of sophisticated cgi when icons moving around would do. And a wasted Harrison ford. This is not Harry f'ing potter. It is children being brainwashed so they will kill. At least it was that simple until the sequels.

  • by addie (470476)

    Just in case anyone didn't know how it all ends, they were kind enough to put the climax directly in the trailer. I'll withhold judgement on the film itself, but that trailer didn't do it for me.

    • Re:Climax (Score:5, Insightful)

      by runeghost (2509522) on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @04:29PM (#43658689)
      That's not the climax. The climax is when Ender realizes what he's actually done. Since it's a morally complex point, I have little doubt that part will be cut from the film.
      • Re:Climax (Score:5, Insightful)

        by Areyoukiddingme (1289470) on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @05:33PM (#43659279)

        Since it's a morally complex point, I have little doubt that part will be cut from the film.

        Hell they are flat out telling him what they are doing. When did they ever admit to their goals in the novel?

        Quite. What a miserable mess. They rewrote it basically from scratch. Kept the names and the We Win part and redid everything else. Half of the point of the book was Ender didn't know. That he fought every single battle thinking it was just particularly grueling training. That the military lied to him and almost everyone else throughout the entire book. Little doubt? How about no doubt whatsoever? How can he "come to a realization" when that entire element has been completely removed from the plot? 5 seconds of footage is enough to know they completely rewrote the destruction of the alien planet. Where is Ender's despair? Where is his giving up on the "training"? The only part that's left is his decision to just blow it all up with the Little Doctor, and they turned that into a triumph, rather than the training failure Ender believed it to be.

        No better than I expected. There was no way in hell they were going to do the book justice. Odds went up after Hunger Games, I guess. I could have sworn audiences would rebel against kids killing kids, but I constantly underestimate the bloodthirstiness of contemporary audiences. Still, looks like they failed, as expected, despite being able to keep the violence.

        • Re:Climax (Score:5, Informative)

          by gmhowell (26755) <gmhowell@gmail.com> on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @06:46PM (#43660005) Homepage Journal

          Hell they are flat out telling him what they are doing. When did they ever admit to their goals in the novel?

          Quite. What a miserable mess. They rewrote it basically from scratch. Kept the names and the We Win part and redid everything else.

          You can tell all of this from the trailer? Or you're just choosing to interpret things this way to give you an excuse to vent your nerd rage?

    • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

      by Fallen Kell (165468)
      Actually that wasn't the climax... The climax was later /







      The climax was Ender realizing that it wasn't a video game simulation, but that it was actually real and he just destroyed the homeworld of another species, killing billions, and more importantly, killing the only ones that had brains.
  • by MozeeToby (1163751) on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @04:16PM (#43658519)

    On the one hand, I really did enjoy Ender's Game and Ender's Shadow as a kid (and to a lesser extent the other books in the series). On the other hand, art does not exist in a vacuum and I really do have a hard time separating Card's homophobic views from his works; especially since, in retrospect they do creep into his books at least occasionally.

    On the gripping hand, this will almost certainly be a dud. It won't live up to the expectations and hopes of those who wanted the movie made 20 years ago and it won't have much appeal to the others.

    • On the other hand, art does not exist in a vacuum and I really do have a hard time separating Card's homophobic views from his works; especially since, in retrospect they do creep into his books at least occasionally.

      Just out of curiosity, where do you see this? For full disclose, I enjoy the works of plenty of artists, actors, and musicians whose personal views I find abhorrent. I enjoy Card's books (Enchantment is one of my favorite novels), and I'll leave it at that.

      It's been quite some time since I've read many of Card's books, but if I recall the extended Ender universe has non-evil and non-stereotypical gay characters. The Earthfall books had at least one gay character who was good. One of the characters in that s

      • by sessamoid (165542)

        On the other hand, art does not exist in a vacuum and I really do have a hard time separating Card's homophobic views from his works; especially since, in retrospect they do creep into his books at least occasionally.

        Just out of curiosity, where do you see this? For full disclose, I enjoy the works of plenty of artists, actors, and musicians whose personal views I find abhorrent. I enjoy Card's books (Enchantment is one of my favorite novels), and I'll leave it at that.

        It's been quite some time since I've read many of Card's books, but if I recall the extended Ender universe has non-evil and non-stereotypical gay characters. The Earthfall books had at least one gay character who was good. One of the characters in that series (a scientist) even explained that homosexuality had to do with conditions in the womb and wasn't a choice (it's been a long time since I've read this, so I could be slightly off).

        I've never read it, but Card's book Songmaster [wikipedia.org] apparently deals with homosexuality to a large extent. I remember a friend of mine called it the "gayest" book he had ever read (she meant that in a positive way).

        Where do you see Card's negativity towards homosexuality?

        I'm not the GP poster, but I recall several times in the Bean stories where Card talks about how marriage is supposed to be between a man and a woman.

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by MozeeToby (1163751)

        It's not about Gays being evil, it's about Gays being pitiful. The most obvious example is Anton from the Shadow series (I can't remember which novel the events take place in, perhaps spread between the second and third books). The first time you meet Anton, he's a depressed, suicidal, utterly devoid of purpose or direction and just so happens to be gay. His homosexuality isn't really the cause of his depression or other problems, that stems from things in his past both that he did and that were done to

  • It's the perfect length....

    Just have to lay the music over it.

  • Looks to me (based on this trailer alone) that the book got hammered and bashed to fit into the current Hollywood "sci-fi" form factor, lots of shiny graphics/scenery and some fractions of elements from the book (similar to I robot).

    Children trained as soldiers? The film Soldier already did that very well, and I got a feeling it is closer to the book than the Ender's Game film will ever be.

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