The Bronies Get Their Own Charity 417
blackbearnh writes "There's a long history of media fandoms organizing fundraising campaigns, donating blood, and doing other charitable activities. However, even large and well-established groups such as Trekkies/ers and Star Wars fans usually work with established non-fannish charities like the Red Cross or Toys for Tots. Some may see them as a plague on the Internet, the Brony community has taken their charitable endeavors to the next level by going to the trouble of creating a 501(c)(3) tax-exempt public charity. The Brony Thank You Fund received word from the IRS last week that, after nearly a year of work, they had been granted tax-exempt status. The Fund is currently raising donations to endow a permanent animation scholarship at CalArts, and is the same group that made news last year when they became the first fan group to purchase commercial time on national TV, for a 30 second spot praising My Little Pony and encouraging donations to Toys for Tots."
Brohoof (Score:2, Insightful)
Brohoof to fellow bronies.
This is the sort of thing that makes our fandom so great.
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It's been a couple years since we last had something on Slashdot, so I'm glad to see this up here.
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WTG bronies.
Bring back the 1-April-2006 Slashdot theme to celebrate.
Re:Brohoof (Score:4)
(\ Brohoof back at ya.
Yes, it's a silly fandom for a kid's show. But it's an amazing community unlike any I've seen on the internet -- and I've seen a lot. The creativity and generosity of this fandom is off the charts, and that's the kind of crowd with whom I'm proud to associate.
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I hope you succeed in convincing the judge to void your visitation rights, because being obsessed with avoiding cooties from girly stuff is a pretty good sign of elementary-school-level emotional development.
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Yeah I know, heaven forbid that healthy men prefer to differentiate themselves from feminine attributes as a function of maturation.. When women or effeminate men behave according to their inclinations, it's 'empowerment', but when men are masculine, it's insecurity. Gotcha.
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There is a difference between someone doing what they like despite pressures not to, and someone trying to pressure others to not do what they like for arbitrary reasons. There is nothing wrong with a guy fitting the stereotype of having hobbies like sports, cars, and fishing. However, if said guy goes around and bitches about other people liking things he dislikes and insisting that they shouldn't like something for his own stupid reasons, that is a different story.
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Re:Brohoof (Score:5, Insightful)
To be fair, I think the show is well written to work on "dual levels": both the little girls watching it, and the parents who might be dragged in to endure spending some time with their children. From actually *watching* episodes, I can attest that the writing has enough to offer to keep an adult entertained, too (so long as you're still capable of appreciating storytelling without constant gory violence, profanity, and explicit sex). It is indeed a matter of taste --- but for folks who enjoy absurdist humor, genre spoofs (which would often be over the head of "target audience" girls), character acting, sight gags / slapstick comedy, running jokes, etc., it's an enjoyable show. Yes, there are plenty of other great hobbies besides watching a TV series --- but that is true of *every* TV series.
Re:Brohoof (Score:5, Insightful)
In fact, a bunch of adults forming a fan club for a cartoon and calling themselves "bronies" is creepy too.
How is it any more creepy than a bunch of adults forming a fan club over a TV show and calling themselves trekkies.
The "brohoof" stuff is kinda creepy though.
Live long and prosper, dude.
Re:Brohoof (Score:4, Insightful)
They are both equally disturbing.
Neither is preferable.
I'm in neither group, but I've seen my share of Star Trek and was at least curious enough to watch an episode of MLP to see what the fuss was about.
I think that many people find the Idealism of Star Trek appealing. It's not just about spacemen and phasers, and it's not just about exploring space. It carries a lot of idealism about what humans can overcome and become culturally (not just technologically). The idealism resonates with many of the fans.
Likewise, My Little Pony seems to convey a certain optimism and promotes compassion and empathy (and it was at least mildly amusing).
I wouldn't go to conventions or anything, but people who are fans of things that are pretty benign and encourage empathy, compassion, idealism, and the bettering of humanity aren't really a bad thing.
So, when people want to shit on them because the fans don't conform to societal norms of being aggressive, self-serving, materialistic, dominating people kind of come off seeming like assholes to me.
Maybe they are weird or eccentric, but it a lot more harmless than a lot of things we idolize in this culture.
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Because insulting people you haven't met and know nothing about is oh so mature. Way to be a role model mr. dad.
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I know you are but what am I?
Call me a neigh sayer (Score:4, Insightful)
I guess it's good they're doing charity, but it's just so creepy.
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In this media wasteland, you could do worse tha
Re:Call me a neigh sayer (Score:5, Insightful)
But if a guy likes a girl thing, it's clinical fixation disorder.
You are what is wrong with society.
Re:Call me a neigh sayer (Score:5, Interesting)
No, it's clinical fixation disorder when they fill their house with plushies, obcessively decorate their correspondence, make public displays of their obcesson, and insist that these are normal, and not obcessive.
In short, you can like my little pony all you want. But when you go so far as to modify your life such that it now revolves around that show, and you feel compelled to convert others to your obcesson, then there is a problem.
There is a difference between intolerance, and refusal to be converted.
Re:Call me a neigh sayer (Score:5, Insightful)
So then a guy who fills his house with sports memorabilia and always wears the team jersey has clinical fixation disorder?
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If doing so causes him trouble in his personal life, or causes him emotional harm, yes.
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Social acceptance is definately covered.
It's one of the 5 major needs in Maslow's heirarchy.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow's_hierarchy_of_needs [wikipedia.org]
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Let's just skip to the end: Anyone who likes anything I don't like has a mental disorder.
Re:Call me a neigh sayer (Score:5, Informative)
More like this AC.
"Anyone who's favored dive is so compulsive that it dominates their emotional lives, at the deficit of other interests and social interactions has a disorder."
In other words, when your devotion to an object of interest (sports, ponies, animated characters, Jesus, whatever) is so intensely overwelming that it overrides all other interests, and dominates your life, it is mentally unhealthy.
This is defined by the DSM.
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Wish I had mod points.
Re:Call me a neigh sayer (Score:5, Funny)
So, about all those *nix zealots in here...
I simply refuse to believe that anyone could become so obsessed with *nix, or with computers, or technology in general, that it could adversely affect other aspects of their life, be they social, romantic, personal hygiene etc... Just could not happen!
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And what relevance does this have to bronies?
It's a classic straw man. There's plenty of average, well adjusted, normal people who consider themselves bronies. A common interest, name, some in jokes, and a maybe few plastic figurines do not constitute a life dominating obsession, but for whatever reason, some people take that as a starting point.
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"If I do it, it is good; if you do it, it is creepy" seems to be a common theme of humanity.
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But he is secretly wishing he could murder all the fans of the other team, smash all the store windows when his team wins and punch somebody when his team loses.
Stereotypes all the way! After all, it is impossible to like watching a sport without being a hooligan, just like it is impossible to like a TV show that was made to be suitable for kids without wishing to be a kid.
Re:Call me a neigh sayer (Score:5, Insightful)
> In short, you can like my little pony all you want. But when you go so far as to modify your life such that it now revolves around that show, and you feel compelled to convert others to your obcesson, then there is a problem.
What about religious people whose lives revolve around the religion and they try to convert others to the religion?
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Let us be honest about ourselves: We are just as disturbed as the 4chan/reddit/something awful communities and don't have a higher ground to judge the bronies fandom.
Get one of us to talk to a psychologist and he/she will have enough material to keep writing papers for the rest of the career. :-)
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As an agnostic, why would I exclude religious dogmatism from the category? It fits all the criteria doesn't it?
From a long suffering Cardinals fan: (Score:5, Funny)
"modify your life such that it now revolves around that show, and you feel compelled to convert others to your obcesson"
So, what were you saying about Chicago Cubs fans here in central Illinois?
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The irony here is thick enough to apply to sliced bread, and make into a sandwich.
I said when people's lives revolve around the fixation (the spock ears, et al of your post), *THEN* there is a problem.
Since those people represent a vocal minority, (not all startrek fans are "trekies". Some just think its fun to watch.) The are not the subject of discussion.
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I did not think it needed clarification.
"Bronies", as a group, a people with this fixation. They are distinctly different from people who simply "like" MLP.
One is inclusive of the other, but not vise versa. Associating with the show to a level sufficient enough to ascribe a group identity implies membership in said minority.
Eg, "Bronies" is a subset of the completely harmless "fans of my little pony", in much the same way that "trekkie" is a subset of "people who like watching startrek"
The subject was about
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I see where the problem is now. No, the term "brony" is much more inclusive than you appear to think. As it was first used inside the group, it does not have the pejorative connotations of "trekkie." Most self-labelled bronies are merely avid fans. This survey [bronystudy.com] breaks it down. Only 16% agreed with the statement "[MLP] is my number one priority, all that I can think about."
For a lot of people in the MLP fandom, it is the only exposure they have had to New Sincerity [wikipedia.org]. It provides a much-needed respite from the
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I suppose it would have helped, if my limited experience with this fandom had been anything other than rabbid in nature I suppose.
It is also compounded by an admittedly unfair guilt by association with my rather negative experiences with the more purile of the furry community in its heyday. (I can only take being hounded to draw hyperschlongs for so long, you understand.)
I have no quibbles over people who like to watch cartoons. I myself liked Invader Zim's early episodes due to the cruelly sarcastic portra
Re:Call me a neigh sayer (Score:4, Interesting)
Your problem is that you like something more than I would like you to. You need to listen to what I say and spend exactly as much time on your hobbies as I tell you to. If you don't listen to whatever I say, then you're objectively wrong.
Re:Call me a neigh sayer (Score:4, Insightful)
Assuming fandom equals obsession is rather absurd, don't you think? No one is saying obsession is bad, but jumping from MLP fandom straight to obsession, as if trying to imply they are somehow more linked than other obsessions and baselines, is pretty silly. Sure, there are obsessive bronies. There are also sports nuts, crazed foodies, people who played video games to death, [bbc.co.uk] animal hoarders, and all sorts of other obsessions out there. The obsessive minority does not define the baseline.
You average brony is basically just another person, going about life just like everyone else. Everyone likes different things and has different hobbies, just like Trekkies, Whovians, ect. This just so happens to be something we like.
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Non obsessives don't call themselves Bronies, or Trekkies, or Whovians, they don't define themselves based on what they like, they say "I like Star Trek" or "I like Doctor Who" (I presume that's what a Whovian is) or "I like My Little Pony".
When any interest(and that includes more socially acceptable interests like sports, sex, and alcohol) starts to define you, you're at the very least verging on engaging in some seriously unhealthy behavior. This is even more true when you're dealing with what might be co
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Non obsessives don't call themselves Bronies, or Trekkies, or Whovians
I'd say I'm all four. Careful when determining who's a true Scotsman.
When any interest(and that includes more socially acceptable interests like sports, sex, and alcohol) starts to define you, you're at the very least verging on engaging in some seriously unhealthy behavior.
What do you mean by starts to define you? If you mean let it control you, than yes, that's certainty a problem. If you mean taking interests as a part of yourself, as one of the things that you enjoy and makes you unique, then no. Everyone is defined by the sum of themselves, their life experiences, their interests, their hopes, their hobbies, ect. That's the nature of individuality. And if a name and a gesture are all it takes to ha
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Are there only two levels of interest that you can see: "like" and "obsess"? Is the world so black and white to you that you don't see any middle levels where someone may like something a lot, or say above average, or acknowledge that they would like things enough to make it a hobby or pursue it beyond just the typical means, but not necessarily obsessing?
A lot of people like video games and play them from time to time, it shouldn't be surprising that there are people who want to identify beyond that, but
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It's not about how much you like it, it's about how you define yourself. You can love things, but when you start thinking and describing yourself in terms of that thing, you're not in healthy territories. I hobby should be something you do, not something you are. You can call yourself a "Brony" or "Trekkie" and not have any dramas, but by doing so you're moving awfully close to an edge. Life is about balance and no single part of it should define who you are.
Re:Call me a neigh sayer (Score:4, Insightful)
It is really quite simple, really.
When your thing of interest occupies more resources than your other interests, it is becoming unhealthy.
This is a spectrum, where "perfectly fine" is on the left, and "seriously, see a therapist" is on the far right.
People who like MLP have a socially questionable preference, but are on the left. People who aggregate to watch MLP, and make group associations with the show, are trending towards the right.
People who give each other "brohooves" or whatever, feel compelled to denounce people who honestly tell them that they are being excessive as "haters", rather than people who are concerned about them, and who enshrine aspects of MLP in their personal philosophies are well into the right hand side.
It is hardly black and white.
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You mean, the sort of baseline of activity for "serious football fans"?
I mean, sure, there's excessive behavior around, but for the most part, the stuff I actually see people doing, as opposed to random people on the Internet saying they heard of someone doing, is pretty much normal for fandoms.
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Nope.. this is little different from some overweight guy in his 40s who still decorates his entire home with NFL paraphernalia, always dresses in a jersey of his favorite team, and couches every conversation with football analogies.
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Brilliant.
Sounds like your inner child died, misery loves company, and you want to drag everyone else down to your cynical hellhole.
Can someone explain bronies? (Score:2, Insightful)
is it a prank? rebranded furries? an ironic hipster meme collapsed under its own weight and is now self aware? inquiring minds want to know!
Re: Can someone explain bronies? (Score:4, Insightful)
How about people who are genuinely appreciative of an animated cartoon with all-ages appeal, quality animation, and great voice work.
Not everything needs to be some kind of snarky ironic entity. There's room in the world for sincerity, as much as the Internet tries to beat that sentiment into oblivion.
And for the record, less than 20% of bronies self-identify as furries, the vast majority are heterosexual, and the fandom has nothing to do with pedophilia.
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You're locking up the stable after the horse has already bolted, as it were.
The boring truth about most fandoms can hardly compete with the lurid imaginations of those desperately searching for someone they can consider more hopeless than they are.
Remember. These are Slashdot ACs, the most pathetic losers ever to inhabit their mom's basement. 'Nuff said.
Nothing as self righteous as a reformed... (Score:2)
The only reason I have a 6 digit ID is because I hung around as an AC for some time before bothering to register. :)
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quality animation? seriously ... the ponies would not have passed as a flash animation 10 years ago, and they say nothing relevant
Re: Can someone explain bronies? (Score:5, Funny)
Not all fettishisms are sexual.
All of the fun ones are.
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But it is a false assertion that I am an expert.
I have simply read the DSM. That *is* what it says about when something becomes a disorder.
You are welcome to look it up yourself.
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The one that is still the basic standard by which mental disorders are characterized.
It has had many revisions. The definition of when a subject becomes a disorder is pretty straight forward.
The issue at hand is the stigma associated with mental illness.
True to your character though, you have indeed derailed the conversation exactly as predicted wit a red herring. Congratulations.
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No, the irony of that situation is not lost on me.
But again, you are welcome, and even encouraged to examine the clinical definition of "mental disorder" yourself.
Considering your line of argument has been to assert the illogical statement "you misspelled "fetish", therefor, wrong.", and my reply was "check for yourself to be sure I misused it", which you have clearly failed to do, and now followed up with a "nobody has chimed in yet to support you, thus wrong" fallacy instead, I seriously wonder about you.
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Note the very long thread above this one.
Note how I indeed assert this as part of the requirement. (It's currently +4, you can't miss it.)
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is it a prank? rebranded furries? an ironic hipster meme collapsed under its own weight and is now self aware? inquiring minds want to know!
Yes, it's a form of Furry Fandom. Basically "Furries" as modern people know it were the same thing as bronies, except instead of being fans of My LIttle Pony they were fans of Robin Hood, Albedo, or Omaha the Cat Dancer.
These modern furries are just coming from the My LIttle Pony reboot, which apparently is a very good show (never bothered). They try to distance themselves from the "old" furry fandom, but there is an incredible amount of overlap in the two communities, both in members, culture, and themes
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" "Furries = Perverts" forced meme that SomethingAwful pushed out."
The real joke of this, is a number of the SA Goons who pushed the anti-furry meme hardest are furries themselves. (And at least a couple of those are regular posters here on Slashdot. They can out themselves if they wish. I'll just whistle innocently.;)
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All I can say with certainty about the furry fandom, and its predelections for depictions of sexual gratification, and other things commonly associated with being "perverted", is that during that particular era, I had numerous requests to illustrate such scenes, which I tacitly declined to do, and when I did make an anthropromorphised character, frequently had lurid demands of giving it a giant dick hurled my way.
My response to these tactics was to produce Guro images involving furries demanding giant penis
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"Guro images involving furries demanding giant penises,getting said penises in ways they clearly did not find favorable"
Somehow, I bet there would be a market for those. (It's sort of an extension of rule 34)
Welcome to fandom of all kinds. From fantasy chainmail bikinis with "modifications" to anime drawings that defy the laws of physics (let alone any form of taste).
It comes from having human beings that don't necessarily have a whole lot of social skills and do have a whole lot of androgens.
Imagine what t
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Welcome to the internet; I see you're new here. There's a useful reference section right around the corner called "Wikipedia" where you can often get introductory answers to questions like yours: what is a furry? [wikipedia.org]. From this, you should be able to learn that being a "furry" does not equate to being "pervy" (assuming by that you mean "interested in sexual activity besides missionary-position procreative copulation within marriage"), and has nothing whatsoever to do with screwing animals.
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No; but I do try to learn enough about other "strange seeming" people that I don't reflexively assume everyone with different interests from my own must be a child-molesting goat-fucker pervert by default.
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My experiences with "the fandom" are mostly negative.
That said, a furry is basically a person who *really* likes images and media dealing with anthropromorphic animal characters.
It can be harmless appreciation for that kind of depiction, but can also be quite lurid in its manifestation.
There are several subgenres within the fandom that enjoy things like, "hyperschlongs", "enormous breasts", "spooge shots", and yes, sadly, "Guro" imagery. (Save yourself from the nightmare fuel. Guro is japanese for "gruesome
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(Angering english nazis, a personal past time of mine. Always enjoyable. It amuses me that the most important things they have to say is that a word was misspelled, and that this has made them crazy. Such fun times.)
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I am much more surprised at your lack of apoplexy at the carefully planted subject-verb agreement faux pax I made above. ;)
Clearly you are not a "grammar" nazi, just a word nazi.
(/joke)
In all seriousess, I don't bother proofreading when posting from this POS android phone, because my thumbs input text faster than the IME reports, and the keybord drivers for this unit are notoriously shitty. This results in misspelled words, incorrectly injected apostrophes in words like "its", and combined with slashdot's a
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wtf is a furry?
Gil Grissom to the rescue [youtube.com]!
Re: Can someone explain bronies? (Score:5, Insightful)
Real sincerity is the new ironic fake sincerity.
Actually, the show writing isn't the horrible syrup you might expect --- it's actually made to be tolerable for a parent to watch alongside their kids. There are frequent joke references that would go *completely over* the head of the "target" demographic age, but are thrown in for 20 to 30-year-olds. The voice/character acting is high quality. There is surprisingly little blatant "buy all our playsets and toys!" pushy in-show merchandizing (especially for a kids' TV show produced by a *toy company*). And the main character is a "nerd" portrayed in very positive light --- the show has a refreshing air of anti-anti-intellectualism, and is the opposite of "math is hard! let's go shopping!" Barbie.
Re: Can someone explain bronies? (Score:5, Interesting)
I've watched every episode and can say without a doubt that the production quality of the show is extremely good. The story arcs are well crafted, the character building is great and even the side plots have a purpose beyond mere entertainment. The only thing I wasn't thrilled about was the Miss America tie in for last season's finale. It fell flat IMHO. The finale itself was good though.
Gotta say I'm a Pinkie Pie fan, her slapstick comedy routines are timed perfectly. She did a spit take in one episode that had me ROFL.
If I were to place MLP with a peer set of TV series it would be Breaking Bad, The Wire, DragonBallZ, FireFly, Cowboy BeeBop and maybe GOT (it still hasn't proven itself, we'll see how this season wraps up).
Re: Can someone explain bronies? (Score:5, Interesting)
And the main character is a "nerd" portrayed in very positive light
The creator if the show did state that she wanted the main characters to have a wide variety of traits (the hard working one, the nurturing one, ect) as a kind of 'you can be who you want no matter what it is' message to the target audience of young girls. The nerdy one being the lead was a nice touch.
Also, a fun bit of trivia /. readers will probably appreciate, an episode once had a that character [imgur.com] working with time dilation equations [wikipedia.org] here.
mc chris FTW (Score:2)
Kor Memorial Scholarship (Score:5, Interesting)
The Fund is currently raising donations to endow a permanent animation scholarship at CalArts
The Klingon Language Institute also has a scholarship [kli.org] so fandom born scholarships are not unheard off.
Heh. (Score:5, Interesting)
Watched the show at the behest of a friend. Liked it, it was very enjoyable. Told a different friend about it.
She got about ten times more into it than I did. She started a meetup group in New York, then created a brony *convention*. She invited me to come up and help.
So I did. And I met a bunch of new, fun people in the process.
I always liked the show, but never took it as far as some of the other fans. The whole thing ended up causing me to meet a large group of fun, quirky people, so overall it was very positive.
I haven't been too involved in the past year, since a ton of drama started up and I got tired of hearing about it. I'll probably still watch the show, but my days of flying up to NYC for cons is over.
Though I'll likely be up there to visit friends in the summer. Oh, and Rarity is best pony. Sorry folks. :)
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I am similar - I like the show, like some of the fanfics, have a few figures but that's it. I'd rather buy a good tape deck than some expensive (custom) figure etc. Don't know of any meetups within ~30km of where I live, but I would probably go to one if there was one and I had time.
Oh, and Twilight is best pony. And now she is best princess too (Luna is a really close second though).
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And now she is best princess too
RAGE.
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Pinkie Pie forever!
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if they had called themselves the "Brony Patriot Thank You Fund", we'd have a different story.
hate to admit it, but... (Score:5, Interesting)
Daughter (who just graduated high school) watches My Little Pony (the current incarnation, not that horrible 1980's crap), and I've seen a couple episodes, and ... you know ... kids could be watching worse things. The writers don't talk down to the viewer, the dialog is fast and witty and sometimes genuinely funny, and they don't beat you senseless with the moral.
She was part of a brony group in high school, but about half of them quit when the other half got.... wayyyyy too into it. But that's not necessarily a reflection on the show. Geeks can take anything and make too much of it. (Ahem...)
Re:Just shoot me now (Score:5, Insightful)
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Pablo Escobar was known to provide to charities and give aid to the poor. Perhaps he was also trying to make the world (or at least his part of it) a better place. Does mean he was particularly nice though.
Not trying to say the Bronies are as bad as Colombian drug lords, just shooting down your argument.
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Re:Just shoot me now (Score:4, Funny)
You just made zombie Baby Hitler cry.
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Would you say the same if it was NAMBLA instead of Bronies?
Well, no. If there's anyone I wouldn't accept help from, or contribute to, it'd be them. I'm not sure if I'm understanding your point.
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1) Unless you think that pretty much every piece of quality animation produced in the last 30 years (Iron Giant, Dexter's Laboratory, everything from Pixar, etc.) is "soul-crushingly-commercial toy-selling animation", you might want to do a little research on CalArts and their animation program.
2) In addition to the scholarship, the Brony Thank You Fund also donated nearly $20,000 to Toys for Tots, over $10,000 to the College View School, and over $1,600 each to GLSEN and Engineers without Borders in the la
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How many episodes of the show have you watched? I was surprised by the *lack* of soul-crushingly-commercial toy-selling actually in the episodes. And I'm generally an extremely cynical, anti-corporate, anti-capitalist type. There may be plenty of slimy child brainwashing manipulation going on in separate toy ads, but the show material itself seems a lot less marketing-driven than the majority of kid's TV shows.
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Interesting... Did you know that 85% of female bronies dislike or are at best neutral to the term "pegasister"? Bro is gender neutral in this day and age.
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Is there any search keyword for which sufficient indiscriminate googling would not result in traumatic horrors? By a simple corollary of "rule 34", any subject googled in ignorance will appear disturbingly perverted.
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Article summaries shouldn't force the reader to use Google to understand them.
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Discord is that you? Creating more chaos in the crystal kingdom eh? Don't make me call Fluttershy. She'll give you the eye. You know what I'm talking about.
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Haven't you heard? Fag has been redefined.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fag [urbandictionary.com]
1. An extremely annoying, inconsiderate person most commonly associated with Harley riders.
2. A person who owns or frequently rides a Harley.
" Look at that fag riding that Harley."
"Why are these fags always so loud."
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I know the original comment was a troll, but I'll state for the record that the Fund will have no say in the administration of the scholarship, CalArts will run it just as they do all their other scholarships. In fact, the IRS was pretty adamant about that point.
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(Well, we kinda still are in many ways, but we shouldn't and we're working on that, so your point stands.)