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YouTube Ordered To Remove "Illegal" Copyright Blocking Notices 427

Posted by Unknown Lamer
from the some-organizations-deserve-scorn dept.
An anonymous reader writes in with new developments in a two-year-old spat between YouTube and GEMA (a German music royalty collection foundation). After the courts ordered YouTube to implement tools to block videos that contained music GEMA licenses, it seems that telling users why content was blocked isn't making GEMA happy. From the article: "GEMA applied for an injunction to force YouTube to change the messages, claiming that they misrepresent the situation and damage GEMA’s reputation. YouTube alone is responsible for blocking the videos, claiming otherwise is simply false, GEMA argued. ... Yesterday the District Court of Munich agreed with the music group and issued an injunction to force YouTube to comply, stating that the notices 'denigrate' GEMA with a 'totally distorted representation of the legal dispute between the parties.' Changing the message to state that videos are not available due to a lack of a licensing agreement between YouTube and GEMA would be more appropriate, the Court said." The messages currently reads, "Unfortunately, this video is not available in Germany because it may contain music for which GEMA has not granted the respective music rights." Seems pretty neutral. Non-compliance with the order could result in fines of €250,000 per infraction.
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YouTube Ordered To Remove "Illegal" Copyright Blocking Notices

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  • by king neckbeard (1801738) on Wednesday February 26, 2014 @10:52AM (#46345485)
    GEMA's stance is batshit crazy. The RIAA and ASCAP go overboard, but GEMA cranks it up to 11.
  • by swillden (191260) <shawn-ds@willden.org> on Wednesday February 26, 2014 @11:04AM (#46345617) Homepage Journal

    With the current wording GEMA looks like the bad guy.

    So... the current wording is correct.

    I actually believe copyright law is valuable and has a place, when appropriately balanced, but it's tilted so far in favor of content owners right now, and the record labels and their associations are so abusive, that my starting position is always to assume they're in the wrong.

    (Disclaimer: I happen to be a Google engineer, but I don't speak for Google and Google doesn't speak for me. In addition, my opinions on this matter long pre-dated my employment at Google -- in fact they're derived primarily from the year I spent working for Universal Music Group. Based on what I learned there, if you assume in any dispute that the labels are being slimy and abusive, you're basically always right.)

  • by UnknowingFool (672806) on Wednesday February 26, 2014 @11:15AM (#46345761)

    How about "This video is available in other countries besides Germany because the copyright holders in those countries are more reasonable than GEMA has been"? Does it say something that other music companies are calling out GEMA [wikipedia.org]:

    Edgar Berger, CEO of Sony Music Entertainment in Munich, told Billboard:

    “I suspect that some members of GEMA’s supervisory board have not yet arrived in the digital era. We want to see streaming services like VEVO and Spotify in the German market. Spotify must not be blocked by GEMA any longer. Artists and music companies are losing sales in the millions”.

  • Re:Bullshit (Score:5, Informative)

    by Dishevel (1105119) on Wednesday February 26, 2014 @12:19PM (#46346613)

    GEMA is, however, entirely responsible for claiming they own the music. In many cases, I bet they don't

    If I were a betting man, I'd take that bet without hesitation.

    Here you go. You Lose. [techdirt.com]

  • Re:Sour grapes (Score:5, Informative)

    by khellendros1984 (792761) on Wednesday February 26, 2014 @02:46PM (#46348579) Journal

    Dieses Video ist in Deutschland leider nicht verfügbar, da es mÃglicherweise Musik enthÃlt, für die die erforderlichen Musikrechte von der GEMA nicht eingerÃumt wurden.

    Unfortunately, this video is not available in Germany, because it possibly contains music for which the necessary music rights weren't granted by GEMA. (My own translation, although a native German speaker would be better).

    It seems like the English that was previously posted matches the meaning very closely (IMO).

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