Wouldn't matter. Even if it stopped it you'd still be dead. It's an anti-aircraft round. In fact if you have a BMG you have to be careful what you shoot because they tend to keep on going.
After you stop jizzing yourself over the type of bullets you own, actually read the article and see he shot it with a bunch of stuff and the human inside would have survived. Then then jet cut open the helmet and retrieved a bunch of bullets from inside the protective layer.
Everyone knows bulletproof is not absolute and doesn't apply to a sufficiently large gun. YoUr VeSt IsNt BuLlEtPrOoF tO mY gUnS adds no new insight and does not demonstrate that owning slightly overpriced bullets makes you smart.
The insight is that someone is calling something bulletproof, which is untrue at best.
The correct term is ballistic resistant body armor, and the plates to stop a heavy calibre weigh a lot, and the impact trauma on armor can be fatal regardless despite no penetration.
The insight is that someone is calling something bulletproof, which is untrue at best.
Except that as I said no one actually thinks anything called bullet proof is proof against all bullets of arbitrarily large calibre and power. The common, colloquial term (which is the appropriate one for a general audience publication) is "bulletproof".
calling something bulletproof, which is untrue at best.
It is a useful term, and has more meaning than the language Nazis associate it with. "Bulletproof" is known to be qualified. Like "Silencer". Neither is 100%, but they are part measures, with the name of the goal, not the result. Both are "correct", in that in common usage, they are known to mean what they do mean. Nobody thinks "bulletproof" will stop all bullets. Even though way too many people think "silencers" work like they do in movies and video games.
If you're using PLA, sure. You might as well be making your suit out of cardboard. But if you're using polycarbonate, that's what most "bulletproof windows" have been made of for years.
Of course, because a material can be fashioned into something bulletproof doesn't mean everything made of that material is bulletproof. My confidence in anything made by a hobbyist wouldn't be very high.
Real body armor is built by a repeatable manufacturing process, and then repeatedly tested so that you understand how muc
PC needs to be 25+mm thick to even begin to be bullet resistant (there really is no "bullet proof" stuff, a 50 BMG or.338 Lapua will eat bullet proof glass for lunch) - and also requires lamination layers (mylar or equivalent) to hold the shattered pieces of PC together. And that will stop up to normal load ball 9mm. Want.357 or.44 magnum resistance, or light rifle armor? You're talking 4-5 laminations, total thickness around 80-90mm. That becomes extremely bulky and unwieldy unless it's in a fixed-position application. Like on a vehicle.
Yeah, I was going to make those points too. "Bulletproof" polycarbonate windows are inches thick and laminated to prevent crack propagation. And what'll stop a.22 handgun round won't necessarily stop a.22 rifle round, or the second handgun round for that matter.
But it's not out of the question for something that is 3D printed to stop some bullets, some of the time. You can print in steel, even. They use laser sintering. That might have some interesting properties.
But it's not out of the question for something that is 3D printed to stop some bullets, some of the time. You can print in steel, even. They use laser sintering.
There's also been 3D printing in some very durable nickel alloys, which would be capable of holding up to higher pressures and temperatures than steel.
(there really is no "bullet proof" stuff, a 50 BMG or.338 Lapua will eat bullet proof glass for lunch)
I've seen YouTube videos that show a 12 gauge slug will defeat most "bulletproof" glass as well. I've gained a new respect for shotguns since seeing that demonstrated. The range from a shotgun might be rather pathetic but up close they can do some real damage.
A.338 Lapua projectile will have a mass of about 1/2 ounce, but a 12 gauge slug will weigh in at twice that. The rifle round might have a bit more energy but the soft lead in a slug, as opposed to the more durable brass or copper needed for a rifle
The 338 Lapua has about twice the velocity of the 12 GA slug, and weighs in around 250 grains - so it'll have about 2.4 times the energy of the 12 GA slug. And it also has a MUCH smaller cross section, about 20% - so it'll have close to 11 times the PSI imparted on the glass. And PSI is what defeats materials. So the Lapua is MUCH more devastating when it comes to solid materials, as compared to a 12 GA slug.
As far as spread of a shotgun with 00 buck, you'd be surprised. Even at 10 yards [theboxotruth.com], you only have
The 338 Lapua has about twice the velocity of the 12 GA slug, and weighs in around 250 grains - so it'll have about 2.4 times the energy of the 12 GA slug. And it also has a MUCH smaller cross section, about 20% - so it'll have close to 11 times the PSI imparted on the glass. And PSI is what defeats materials. So the Lapua is MUCH more devastating when it comes to solid materials, as compared to a 12 GA slug.
I understand that. What we see with some real world testing is just how effective a 12 gauge slug is against bullet resistant glass. Testing done on the same web site you linked to. https://www.theboxotruth.com/t... [theboxotruth.com]
As far as spread of a shotgun with 00 buck, you'd be surprised. Even at 10 yards, you only have a 10 inch spread.
That's going to be more than enough of a spread for buckshot to no longer be able to defeat bullet resistant glass. For this to work the muzzle would likely have to be inches from the glass. As you point out it's the PSI that will defeat the glass, and if those pellets are spread out enough t
The slug in the "test" went into glass shot a few times before, so I wouldn't take that as "proof" of how it directly compares. Certainly the same is to be said for the.45-70 that was last. It is a hard hitter, but not a glass shatterer. They should have had two panes of the bulletproof glass and repeated the test in reverse order. I expect the glass would have held up in reverse order until a 7.62 or 5.56, depending on what hit where.
Another note is that most ratings are for a single hit, and repeate
If you read the article (god forbid) you would know that they chose three! "The helmet, one shin guard, and the back plate are bulletproof."
Then the money ran out.
So if you take an arrow to the correct shin you should be fine.
My thoughts center on the quote, The helmet, one shin guard, and the back plate are bulletproof. It would have been too expensive to bulletproof the whole suit. Ouch
Adam Savage, of 'Mythbusters' and 'Tested' fame, did something similar. 3D-printed an Iron Man suit from powdered titanium.
Well, a company helped him with the actual printing. In his show the suit was also tested to see if it was bullet proof.
Only a.45 was able to dent it a little bit. Smaller rounds left discoloration, nothing else. Different weapons, different distances...just a small dent in the end as the test went from smallest caliber to end up at.45.
Sure a company "helped", the high quality titanium printers are hella expensive, and require extensive machining after printing, most of which is hidden from the public to increase the "value" of the service. It's magical. The "cheap" $10k printers don't do exotic metals. Pay $250k for a printer, and $20k per suit made from materials cost and finishing. So a "I saw it on TV" doesn't mean it's accessible for the rest of us. A TV show with a $500k per episode can afford one suit per show, as a one-off, b
No, it should be blaster proof [fandom.com], which means it resists bolts of plasma. So the plastic he printed may resist the impact of a bullet, but would probably turn to molten goo (or a thick napalm-like substance) when hit with a blaster bolt.
Plasma bolts under atmosphere pressure in a magnetic field are close to impossible. And the energy a plasma bolt from a hand gun can carry, would only cause a sunburn and increase cancer risk if it would hit your bare skin. There is no way a plasma on earth can harm a piece of cloth.
Of course, it's probably illegal in a lot of places to buy or sell bulletproof anything for the obvious reasons, so...
Yes obviously, just like encryption, if it protects against non-government bad guys it'll protect against government bad guys and that cannot be allowed./s
Well anyone with a tenth of a second to spare could have seen he actually tested it with real bullets (not while wearing) and then did a cross section to see how it fared (pretty well).
Note the whole suit is not bulletproof. I leave it as a surprise for the reader as to what parts are.
I'm not gonna sit down and do a a comparo, but at first glance it already looks wrong for an original trilogy suit.
S'cool that he's doing it.
As for the bulletproofness, just test.. and lots, with all sorts of kit.
Wouldn't surprise me if an effect similar to chain-mail is at work. I imagine tha'ts also what silk was, and silk was the first "bulletproof" anything.
'til the.357 came out in the late 30s and in the words of Smith and Wesson's ad men, "takes the 'proof' out of 'bulletproof'."
No quotes from his supermodel girlfriend? No pictures of him partying at the Playboy club? A guy this cool has to be swimming in chicks.
Going full jock style "nerds suck" on slashdot it kind of ironic. And given your UID, you've been an officially registered nerd for about 15 years. Attacking others like yourself wont change anything about you.
He should be selling those to the new Space Force, defender of Freedom, Gods of the Heaven, able to walk faster than a speeding locomotive, jumps over toy building, and who, disguised as a geek with a printer, ready to fight for Truth, Justice and the American Way. Now where do we keep the contracts.
Most nations do not have the money and "fit" "healthy" "smart" and mil educated special forces to try and use by the "by the thousands."
Nations invest in all methods they can to keep their best police and troops safe every mission.
Police with skills and the most well educated special forces take years to work with and cant be replaced when lost per year "by the thousands.".
No advanced nation has that many smart, fit, mil ready troops per generation. Too many are not very smart, too many are not fit... s
Most nations do not have the money and "fit" "healthy" "smart" and mil educated special forces to try and use by the "by the thousands."
Yeah but the Empire / First Order isn't really a nation clearly don't have a problem with finding an endless supply of cannon fodder. Not to mention it has the most outstanding logistics and manufacturing capacity.
Police with skills and the most well educated special forces take years to work with and cant be replaced when lost per year "by the thousands.". No advanced natio
The Rise of Skywalker is the Star Wars equivalent of the last season of Game of Thrones. I only watched it because I wanted some level of closure. Fortunately I went in with very low expectations, but even then I felt like walking out during the first 15 minutes.
Got the guy's name from the short article, and it even mentions he has a DIY channel. Why not watch the f'ing video of it [youtube.com] before commenting? It's actually pretty cool.
This brings up a good point about Storm Troopers in the movie. Not only can they not hit anything (except Jawas), the armor they wear seems to be easily beat by hand held blasters. Makes me wonder what the point of the armor was other than looking cool.
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0.5 BMG would disagree as well.
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0.5 BMG would disagree as well.
Just to be certain, I would recommend using a Raufoss Mk 211 (Red Waterfall) [wikipedia.org] armor piercing incendiary round.
Maybe Raufoss would even be willing to demonstrate it against a hardened Storm Trooper suit . . . just for shits and giggles.
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0.5 BMG would disagree as well.
Wouldn't matter. Even if it stopped it you'd still be dead. It's an anti-aircraft round. In fact if you have a BMG you have to be careful what you shoot because they tend to keep on going.
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After you stop jizzing yourself over the type of bullets you own, actually read the article and see he shot it with a bunch of stuff and the human inside would have survived. Then then jet cut open the helmet and retrieved a bunch of bullets from inside the protective layer.
Everyone knows bulletproof is not absolute and doesn't apply to a sufficiently large gun. YoUr VeSt IsNt BuLlEtPrOoF tO mY gUnS adds no new insight and does not demonstrate that owning slightly overpriced bullets makes you smart.
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The insight is that someone is calling something bulletproof, which is untrue at best.
The correct term is ballistic resistant body armor, and the plates to stop a heavy calibre weigh a lot, and the impact trauma on armor can be fatal regardless despite no penetration.
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The insight is that someone is calling something bulletproof, which is untrue at best.
Except that as I said no one actually thinks anything called bullet proof is proof against all bullets of arbitrarily large calibre and power. The common, colloquial term (which is the appropriate one for a general audience publication) is "bulletproof".
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Pedantic OCDs with guns may not be the best mix.
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calling something bulletproof, which is untrue at best.
It is a useful term, and has more meaning than the language Nazis associate it with. "Bulletproof" is known to be qualified. Like "Silencer". Neither is 100%, but they are part measures, with the name of the goal, not the result. Both are "correct", in that in common usage, they are known to mean what they do mean. Nobody thinks "bulletproof" will stop all bullets. Even though way too many people think "silencers" work like they do in movies and video games.
The real goal of a silencer is to allow a f
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Yeah! Exactly what that guy says! Don't be a moran!
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If you're using PLA, sure. You might as well be making your suit out of cardboard. But if you're using polycarbonate, that's what most "bulletproof windows" have been made of for years.
Of course, because a material can be fashioned into something bulletproof doesn't mean everything made of that material is bulletproof. My confidence in anything made by a hobbyist wouldn't be very high.
Real body armor is built by a repeatable manufacturing process, and then repeatedly tested so that you understand how muc
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Yeah, I was going to make those points too. "Bulletproof" polycarbonate windows are inches thick and laminated to prevent crack propagation. And what'll stop a .22 handgun round won't necessarily stop a .22 rifle round, or the second handgun round for that matter.
But it's not out of the question for something that is 3D printed to stop some bullets, some of the time. You can print in steel, even. They use laser sintering. That might have some interesting properties.
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But it's not out of the question for something that is 3D printed to stop some bullets, some of the time. You can print in steel, even. They use laser sintering.
There's also been 3D printing in some very durable nickel alloys, which would be capable of holding up to higher pressures and temperatures than steel.
That might have some interesting properties.
Indeed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
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(there really is no "bullet proof" stuff, a 50 BMG or .338 Lapua will eat bullet proof glass for lunch)
I've seen YouTube videos that show a 12 gauge slug will defeat most "bulletproof" glass as well. I've gained a new respect for shotguns since seeing that demonstrated. The range from a shotgun might be rather pathetic but up close they can do some real damage.
A .338 Lapua projectile will have a mass of about 1/2 ounce, but a 12 gauge slug will weigh in at twice that. The rifle round might have a bit more energy but the soft lead in a slug, as opposed to the more durable brass or copper needed for a rifle
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The 338 Lapua has about twice the velocity of the 12 GA slug, and weighs in around 250 grains - so it'll have about 2.4 times the energy of the 12 GA slug. And it also has a MUCH smaller cross section, about 20% - so it'll have close to 11 times the PSI imparted on the glass. And PSI is what defeats materials. So the Lapua is MUCH more devastating when it comes to solid materials, as compared to a 12 GA slug.
As far as spread of a shotgun with 00 buck, you'd be surprised. Even at 10 yards [theboxotruth.com], you only have
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The 338 Lapua has about twice the velocity of the 12 GA slug, and weighs in around 250 grains - so it'll have about 2.4 times the energy of the 12 GA slug. And it also has a MUCH smaller cross section, about 20% - so it'll have close to 11 times the PSI imparted on the glass. And PSI is what defeats materials. So the Lapua is MUCH more devastating when it comes to solid materials, as compared to a 12 GA slug.
I understand that. What we see with some real world testing is just how effective a 12 gauge slug is against bullet resistant glass. Testing done on the same web site you linked to.
https://www.theboxotruth.com/t... [theboxotruth.com]
As far as spread of a shotgun with 00 buck, you'd be surprised. Even at 10 yards, you only have a 10 inch spread.
That's going to be more than enough of a spread for buckshot to no longer be able to defeat bullet resistant glass. For this to work the muzzle would likely have to be inches from the glass. As you point out it's the PSI that will defeat the glass, and if those pellets are spread out enough t
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Another note is that most ratings are for a single hit, and repeate
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Re: Either it came from a 3D printer... (Score:2)
You might get lucky with a demo of your one-off printed armor
Maybe if you test it with a 3D-printed "gun."
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when the bullet tears through the bible like it's not there nobody tells *that* tale.
Finally a decent application for the Bible (thank you, James, you miserable, unwashed fuck!).
Still, watermelons are more satisfying...
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"Either it came from a 3D printer or it's bulletproof.
Choose one, morons."
It's bulletproof like the "bulletproof monk", or Sir Ben Kingsley in "What Planet Are You From?" so not really bulletproof.
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its 3d printed then lined with a bullet proof material.
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"The helmet, one shin guard, and the back plate are bulletproof."
Then the money ran out.
So if you take an arrow to the correct shin you should be fine.
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it was 3d printed, then lined with a bullet proof material afterwards.
Can't be blaster proof though (Score:2)
And I suppose a light sabre would cut through it like it was made of butter.
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Needs more cortosis.
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Adam Savage, of 'Mythbusters' and 'Tested' fame, did something similar. 3D-printed an Iron Man suit from powdered titanium.
Well, a company helped him with the actual printing. In his show the suit was also tested to see if it was bullet proof.
Only a .45 was able to dent it a little bit. Smaller rounds left discoloration, nothing else. Different weapons, different distances...just a small dent in the end as the test went from smallest caliber to end up at .45.
3D-prints with powdered titanium can be considere
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Has anyone seen star wars? (Score:2)
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What if the bullets are made of lasers?
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Why use expensive diode junctions when a lump of relatively impure metal will work? ;)
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Plasma bolts under atmosphere pressure in a magnetic field are close to impossible.
And the energy a plasma bolt from a hand gun can carry, would only cause a sunburn and increase cancer risk if it would hit your bare skin.
There is no way a plasma on earth can harm a piece of cloth.
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Re: Has anyone seen star wars? (Score:2)
The rifle carried by Luke on Tatooine in ANH shoots solid projectiles.
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Of course, it's probably illegal in a lot of places to buy or sell bulletproof anything for the obvious reasons, so...
Yes obviously, just like encryption, if it protects against non-government bad guys it'll protect against government bad guys and that cannot be allowed. /s
Strat
Could you read the story? (Score:2)
Literally bulletproof or only metaphorically?
Well anyone with a tenth of a second to spare could have seen he actually tested it with real bullets (not while wearing) and then did a cross section to see how it fared (pretty well).
Note the whole suit is not bulletproof. I leave it as a surprise for the reader as to what parts are.
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Can't be any worse than the real props. (Score:3)
The real deal was pretty rough.
I'm not gonna sit down and do a a comparo, but at first glance it already looks wrong for an original trilogy suit.
S'cool that he's doing it.
As for the bulletproofness, just test.. and lots, with all sorts of kit.
Wouldn't surprise me if an effect similar to chain-mail is at work. I imagine tha'ts also what silk was, and silk was the first "bulletproof" anything.
'til the .357 came out in the late 30s and in the words of Smith and Wesson's ad men, "takes the 'proof' out of 'bulletproof'."
Wait a minute? (Score:1, Troll)
No quotes from his supermodel girlfriend? No pictures of him partying at the Playboy club? A guy this cool has to be swimming in chicks.
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A guy this cool has to be swimming in chicks.
You're thinking of that guy who killed all those women, puréed their bodies, and dumped the purée into his swimming pool.
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No, that guy was different.
Had he created a text-based computer game where that was the goal, that would be right up his alley.
On what planet ....? (Score:1)
... are girls ever attracted to the pathetic wannabe tough nerd with the fantasy movie fetish?
Where I'm from, they want a strong man, not a tough guy who stopped developing at puberty.
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Outstanding!
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His next project will be to 3d print a girlfriend.
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No quotes from his supermodel girlfriend? No pictures of him partying at the Playboy club? A guy this cool has to be swimming in chicks.
Going full jock style "nerds suck" on slashdot it kind of ironic. And given your UID, you've been an officially registered nerd for about 15 years. Attacking others like yourself wont change anything about you.
Nerdiness is fun. Enjoy it.
sign him up (Score:2)
He should be selling those to the new Space Force, defender of Freedom, Gods of the Heaven, able to walk faster than a speeding locomotive, jumps over toy building, and who, disguised as a geek with a printer, ready to fight for Truth, Justice and the American Way. Now where do we keep the contracts.
Why bulletproof? (Score:2)
Stormtroopers get shot by the thousands.
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Nations invest in all methods they can to keep their best police and troops safe every mission.
Police with skills and the most well educated special forces take years to work with and cant be replaced when lost per year "by the thousands.".
No advanced nation has that many smart, fit, mil ready troops per generation.
Too many are not very smart, too many are not fit... s
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Most nations do not have the money and "fit" "healthy" "smart" and mil educated special forces to try and use by the "by the thousands."
Yeah but the Empire / First Order isn't really a nation clearly don't have a problem with finding an endless supply of cannon fodder. Not to mention it has the most outstanding logistics and manufacturing capacity.
Police with skills and the most well educated special forces take years to work with and cant be replaced when lost per year "by the thousands.".
No advanced natio
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LOL "must-see movie" (Score:1)
The Rise of Skywalker is the Star Wars equivalent of the last season of Game of Thrones. I only watched it because I wanted some level of closure. Fortunately I went in with very low expectations, but even then I felt like walking out during the first 15 minutes.
And he needs it too... with those aiming skills (Score:2)
If shoots south a Stormtrooper, dead people in the north you'll find.
Wait (Score:2)
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Chick magnet? (Score:2)
Don't rely on this article...WTFV (Score:4, Informative)
Got the guy's name from the short article, and it even mentions he has a DIY channel.
Why not watch the f'ing video of it [youtube.com] before commenting? It's actually pretty cool.
In Star Wars, the Storm Trooper armor sucks (Score:2)
This brings up a good point about Storm Troopers in the movie. Not only can they not hit anything (except Jawas), the armor they wear seems to be easily beat by hand held blasters. Makes me wonder what the point of the armor was other than looking cool.
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Makes me wonder what the point of the armor was other than looking cool.
The armor is proof against a higher MPAA rating.
Bah. (Score:1)
Who cares about bulletproof, stormtroopers need to be blaster-proof.
Why do stormtroopers wear armor? (Score:2)