This person says that "jews were beaten (and avoided, ratted out) by their neighbours" and all of a sudden that's an anti-semitic statement? Just for the record - Jews were also hidden and saved by their neighbours. But the first statement is in no way anti-semitic, it rightly points out that it wasn't just the government who hated on Jews, it was the ordinary citizens who picked up on the hate, too. In fact ordinary citizens were instrumental in spreading the hate.
Really, it's not this post that's the issue - it's only bad within the context of her other posts, because she's comparing being a republican in 2021 with being a Jew in 1940s Germany, which is one hell of a stretch. But even so, reading this particular post as anti-semitic, even in the larger conspiracy-nutcase context, is one hell of a stretch as well. The post only works if she is saying anti-semitism is real and is a bad thing.
...because she's comparing being a republican in 2021 with being a Jew in 1940s Germany, which is one hell of a stretch.
Not just a stretch, it's incredibly insulting. I'm honestly floored by reading people here unable to understand why such a statement would have you fired - by Disney, of all companies.
Hey, I'm not saying the comparison isn't both misguided and borderline whataboutism when put in context. I'm just saying it's not actually anti-semitic, as it requires belief that the Holocaust happened, and that it was wrong.
I don't think it trivializes the holocaust. It doesn't at any point say that it wasn't an absolutely horrible event. What it does is it attempts to make a bad-faith argument about how "bad" Republicans have it right now. This is a false equivalency argument. False equivalency arguments can be used to either claim something isn't as bad as it seems, or that something is worse than it is - the use in this case is the latter, not the former.
It is not established that it is a bad faith argument. The parallels she draws are logically valid and therefore just as bad as the events they parallel. If I walk out my front door and turn to the west and start walking it is not incorrect to point out my path parallels one my neighbor took when traveling to California... nor is it a claim that my walk is comparable to a trip to California. In no way does it detract from my neighbors trip to do so. If I keep going and following much the same path it never
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This person says that "jews were beaten (and avoided, ratted out) by their neighbours" and all of a sudden that's an anti-semitic statement?
Just for the record - Jews were also hidden and saved by their neighbours. But the first statement is in no way anti-semitic, it rightly points out that it wasn't just the government who hated on Jews, it was the ordinary citizens who picked up on the hate, too. In fact ordinary citizens were instrumental in spreading the hate.
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Wait, is that all there is to this story? Do people not know how Anne Frank and her family were discovered?
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Really, it's not this post that's the issue - it's only bad within the context of her other posts, because she's comparing being a republican in 2021 with being a Jew in 1940s Germany, which is one hell of a stretch. But even so, reading this particular post as anti-semitic, even in the larger conspiracy-nutcase context, is one hell of a stretch as well. The post only works if she is saying anti-semitism is real and is a bad thing.
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...because she's comparing being a republican in 2021 with being a Jew in 1940s Germany, which is one hell of a stretch.
Not just a stretch, it's incredibly insulting. I'm honestly floored by reading people here unable to understand why such a statement would have you fired - by Disney, of all companies.
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Hey, I'm not saying the comparison isn't both misguided and borderline whataboutism when put in context. I'm just saying it's not actually anti-semitic, as it requires belief that the Holocaust happened, and that it was wrong.
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It's antisemitic because it trivializes the Holocaust.
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I don't think it trivializes the holocaust. It doesn't at any point say that it wasn't an absolutely horrible event. What it does is it attempts to make a bad-faith argument about how "bad" Republicans have it right now. This is a false equivalency argument. False equivalency arguments can be used to either claim something isn't as bad as it seems, or that something is worse than it is - the use in this case is the latter, not the former.
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It is not established that it is a bad faith argument. The parallels she draws are logically valid and therefore just as bad as the events they parallel. If I walk out my front door and turn to the west and start walking it is not incorrect to point out my path parallels one my neighbor took when traveling to California... nor is it a claim that my walk is comparable to a trip to California. In no way does it detract from my neighbors trip to do so. If I keep going and following much the same path it never