I'm glad this was modded informative as it's really important. It's not just violence either, the sexual assault of men is often played for laughs in movies and on TV: https://youtu.be/uc6QxD2_yQw [youtu.be]
Male on male prison rape has been the target of many many jokes over the years.
After a concerted campaign by many feminists about rape culture, people are slowly, slowly waking up to the idea that maybe rape is actually not funny and that includes male victims, and maybe by extension prisons shouldn't be like that. Feminism it turns out is good for men too. Thankfully I had karma you burn because this post is going straight to -1.
After a concerted campaign by many feminists about rape culture, people are slowly, slowly waking up to the idea that maybe rape is actually not funny and that includes male victims, and maybe by extension prisons shouldn't be like that. Feminism it turns out is good for men too.
Not one iota of the "rape culture" meme has addressed prison rape. It's all frat boys and Duke Lacrosse (oops). You have to hook up a one ton dually pickup truck to get a feminist to admit that far more American men are raped each
Miss Piggy is just one of many examples of female-on-male abuse being treated as comedy.
While I agree in principle with your point, the reality is that domestic violence / abuse between genders is reversed in the real world a good 10:1. So let's not pretend females abusing males is some major societal concern. What next, complain that women earn too much because Meg Whitman exists?
the reality is that domestic violence / abuse between genders is reversed in the real world a good 10:1
Totally false.
What is true is that most of the worst examples of violence between the sexes seem to be male-on-female, those which create death and/or dismemberment... some high-profile examples of more-literal-than-usual dismemberment aside.
Big words. Provide some proof. By your own admission the worst examples are male on female so by basic principles of escalation it also means the *most* are male on female.
the worst examples are male on female so by basic principles of escalation it also means the *most* are male on female
You've got to be trolling. Let's use a contrived example. Australian magpies are pretty mean birds. They'll swoop and attack you if they don't like the look of you. Each year, hundreds of people are attacked by magpies. However, a magpie can't actually kill a person, and most victims aren't seriously hurt. Despite laws protecting native birds, people occasionally kill magpies. Humans
Most incidents of magpie/human violence involve magpies attacking humans, however the worst cases, where the victim is seriously injured or killed, involve humans attacking magpies.
That has to be the most obtuse argument I've ever heard. You're describing a case of disparity of capability. A magpie isn't able to kill a human.
The average man is stronger than 80% of women.
The average man is as piss weak as the average woman. The average man does sleeps vulnerable. The average man gets met by police on behalf of women. And even if you include your power disparity what are you trying to say: a) The average man lets themselves get absurd and beaten because of how powerful he is? b) The average man turns around and abuses his abuser and
but even at 10:1 it would be a major societal concern.
No that's not how it works. When there's great disparity between cases the concern is addressing the disparity first. When there's no disparity then we can talk about addressing domestic abuse in general in which case are you going to join me in addressing the sexism of the OP for specifically calling out female on male violence?
Or is your view of the world as incredibly one sided as his?
It's not one sided to mention that male on female abuse is seen as terrible and is terrible, but female on male abuse is seen as funny when it also is terrible.
It may suggest a prioritization of resources when resources are relevant to resolving a societal issue, but there's no way that an abused man should be laughed at because he's a man simply because women are more commonly receive an abuse.
Realize that making fun of abusing men also validates abuse on women. If someone finds it funny, it's because they
This is pretty shitty logic. Sometimes the answer is something that benefits everyone, not just one group. Not being willing to look at broad answers is...well, what you seem to accuse others of.
what about the swedish chef? (Score:5, Funny)
Sexual Harassment (Score:1)
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Miss Piggy is just one of many examples of female-on-male abuse being treated as comedy.
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I hear when you go down on Miss Piggy, it tastes like bacon.
Re:Sexual Harassment (Score:5, Informative)
I'm glad this was modded informative as it's really important. It's not just violence either, the sexual assault of men is often played for laughs in movies and on TV: https://youtu.be/uc6QxD2_yQw [youtu.be]
Re:Sexual Harassment (Score:5, Insightful)
Male on male prison rape has been the target of many many jokes over the years.
After a concerted campaign by many feminists about rape culture, people are slowly, slowly waking up to the idea that maybe rape is actually not funny and that includes male victims, and maybe by extension prisons shouldn't be like that. Feminism it turns out is good for men too. Thankfully I had karma you burn because this post is going straight to -1.
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Modern feminists would interpret "We need to close the male/female suicide gap" as "Women should kill themselves more".
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Not one iota of the "rape culture" meme has addressed prison rape. It's all frat boys and Duke Lacrosse (oops). You have to hook up a one ton dually pickup truck to get a feminist to admit that far more American men are raped each
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Miss Piggy is just one of many examples of female-on-male abuse being treated as comedy.
While I agree in principle with your point, the reality is that domestic violence / abuse between genders is reversed in the real world a good 10:1. So let's not pretend females abusing males is some major societal concern. What next, complain that women earn too much because Meg Whitman exists?
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https://fullfact.org/crime/are... [fullfact.org]
Re:Sexual Harassment (Score:5, Informative)
the reality is that domestic violence / abuse between genders is reversed in the real world a good 10:1
Totally false.
What is true is that most of the worst examples of violence between the sexes seem to be male-on-female, those which create death and/or dismemberment... some high-profile examples of more-literal-than-usual dismemberment aside.
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Totally false.
Big words. Provide some proof. By your own admission the worst examples are male on female so by basic principles of escalation it also means the *most* are male on female.
Sorry but you're not some oppressed minority.
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You've got to be trolling. Let's use a contrived example. Australian magpies are pretty mean birds. They'll swoop and attack you if they don't like the look of you. Each year, hundreds of people are attacked by magpies. However, a magpie can't actually kill a person, and most victims aren't seriously hurt. Despite laws protecting native birds, people occasionally kill magpies. Humans
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Most incidents of magpie/human violence involve magpies attacking humans, however the worst cases, where the victim is seriously injured or killed, involve humans attacking magpies.
That has to be the most obtuse argument I've ever heard. You're describing a case of disparity of capability. A magpie isn't able to kill a human.
The average man is stronger than 80% of women.
The average man is as piss weak as the average woman. The average man does sleeps vulnerable. The average man gets met by police on behalf of women. And even if you include your power disparity what are you trying to say:
a) The average man lets themselves get absurd and beaten because of how powerful he is?
b) The average man turns around and abuses his abuser and
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No, men are less likely to report domestic violence against them, so the 30% number is too low. Youâ(TM)ve got to be trolling.
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Funny you respond to him but ignore my post that shows you're a liar.
Re:Sexual Harassment (Score:5, Informative)
Others have pointed out that it's not 10:1, but even at 10:1 it would be a major societal concern.
Giving a select portion of the population the monopoly on sympathy for issues that may effect other people is a very bad idea.
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but even at 10:1 it would be a major societal concern.
No that's not how it works. When there's great disparity between cases the concern is addressing the disparity first. When there's no disparity then we can talk about addressing domestic abuse in general in which case are you going to join me in addressing the sexism of the OP for specifically calling out female on male violence?
Or is your view of the world as incredibly one sided as his?
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It's not one sided to mention that male on female abuse is seen as terrible and is terrible, but female on male abuse is seen as funny when it also is terrible.
It may suggest a prioritization of resources when resources are relevant to resolving a societal issue, but there's no way that an abused man should be laughed at because he's a man simply because women are more commonly receive an abuse.
Realize that making fun of abusing men also validates abuse on women. If someone finds it funny, it's because they
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This is pretty shitty logic. Sometimes the answer is something that benefits everyone, not just one group. Not being willing to look at broad answers is...well, what you seem to accuse others of.
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You're going to have a fucking heart attack if ever see a 3 Stooges movie.
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No they won't as there's no hypocrisy involved....
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eg. Any female counterpart to Kevin James. Maybe that's why he keeps getting roles.