It really doesn't. The QAnon crowd are a very small, rather embarrassing, but very noisy and attention-hungry minority. From https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/07... [cnn.com]:
[In January], the NBC News poll asked voters whether they had positive, negative, neutral or no views of QAnon. A mere 2% held positive views. The rest were either negative (42%), neutral (11%), or weren't sure or didn't know (45%).
Sorry... but a fascist supporter IS a fascist. Claiming that they are "neutral (11%), or weren't sure or didn't know (45%)" doesn't work in this case.
Once you elect and/or support fascists - you are a fascist. It's an ideology. And unlike, say, animal-rights activism, due to its core vileness - there is no neutral option with fascism. You are either against it - or you're a fascist. There is no middle ground.
Republican voters elected Qanon loons like Taylor Greene and Boebert - without a peep from anyone on that side. And they kept supporting them, openly and tacitly, despite [wikipedia.org] their actions. [wikipedia.org]
The comment I replied to claimed that QAnon "shapes the political opinions of an almost majority of people in the US". That's not even close to true, as I showed with my link. Why do you think your rant has anything to do with that? Your attitude reminds me of the horseshoe theory and an infamous saying: "Tutto nello Stato, niente al di fuori dello Stato, nulla contro lo Stato."
So funny because MTG was a carpet bagger in the first place. You'd think Georgia would hate carpet baggers, but she moves to the district just to get elected because she knew she would lose badly in her home district. It's not that the new district really cared about MTG, they were just rabidly anti-Democrat and would have voted for any ventriloquist dummy with an R label.
That's not quite how it works. As you've noted, fascism is an ideology. Therefore, people who are fascist are those who share the ideology. History is full of examples of people who weren't ideologically fascist, but who supported fascists because they thought they had something to gain from it; indeed, most of German right in the Nazi era (before they fully took over the government) was like that.
One particularly stark example is the 1931 Prussian Landtag referendum, in which NSDAP was backed by the KPD.
You've got me on the numbers. I suppose I let the enormity of the situation influence my perception of scale. As one might do when describing the 40 square foot fire in a 1070 sq/ft house.
To some extent Q anon is getting used as shorthand for the various delusions that animate America's right wing: Trump established his GOP bonafides claiming that there was a giant conspiracy to make Barak Obama look like a natural born citizen when he was actually born in Kenya (he allegedly sent investigators in Hawaii w
The snag was that Trump did not want to disavow Q, because he saw that any supporter, no matter how clinically insane, was a great supporter and should be embraced. So he would toss out tidbits to keep the rabid fans frothing at the mouth and then later deny that he even knew what QAnon was (the most well informed person on the entire planet, if he paid attention that is). Maybe he figured out by that point that his popularity was so low that he needed every last voter if he was going to win.
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Why the fuck should I care about this bullshit?
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It really doesn't. The QAnon crowd are a very small, rather embarrassing, but very noisy and attention-hungry minority. From https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/07... [cnn.com]:
Sorry, that's not how it works with ideology... (Score:4, Informative)
Sorry... but a fascist supporter IS a fascist.
Claiming that they are "neutral (11%), or weren't sure or didn't know (45%)" doesn't work in this case.
Once you elect and/or support fascists - you are a fascist. It's an ideology.
And unlike, say, animal-rights activism, due to its core vileness - there is no neutral option with fascism. You are either against it - or you're a fascist. There is no middle ground.
Republican voters elected Qanon loons like Taylor Greene and Boebert - without a peep from anyone on that side.
And they kept supporting them, openly and tacitly, despite [wikipedia.org] their actions. [wikipedia.org]
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The comment I replied to claimed that QAnon "shapes the political opinions of an almost majority of people in the US". That's not even close to true, as I showed with my link. Why do you think your rant has anything to do with that? Your attitude reminds me of the horseshoe theory and an infamous saying: "Tutto nello Stato, niente al di fuori dello Stato, nulla contro lo Stato."
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So funny because MTG was a carpet bagger in the first place. You'd think Georgia would hate carpet baggers, but she moves to the district just to get elected because she knew she would lose badly in her home district. It's not that the new district really cared about MTG, they were just rabidly anti-Democrat and would have voted for any ventriloquist dummy with an R label.
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That's not quite how it works. As you've noted, fascism is an ideology. Therefore, people who are fascist are those who share the ideology. History is full of examples of people who weren't ideologically fascist, but who supported fascists because they thought they had something to gain from it; indeed, most of German right in the Nazi era (before they fully took over the government) was like that.
One particularly stark example is the 1931 Prussian Landtag referendum, in which NSDAP was backed by the KPD.
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The last time I checked, Congress had 535 members, and 2% of 535 is considerably more than two.
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You've got me on the numbers. I suppose I let the enormity of the situation influence my perception of scale. As one might do when describing the 40 square foot fire in a 1070 sq/ft house.
To some extent Q anon is getting used as shorthand for the various delusions that animate America's right wing: Trump established his GOP bonafides claiming that there was a giant conspiracy to make Barak Obama look like a natural born citizen when he was actually born in Kenya (he allegedly sent investigators in Hawaii w
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The snag was that Trump did not want to disavow Q, because he saw that any supporter, no matter how clinically insane, was a great supporter and should be embraced. So he would toss out tidbits to keep the rabid fans frothing at the mouth and then later deny that he even knew what QAnon was (the most well informed person on the entire planet, if he paid attention that is). Maybe he figured out by that point that his popularity was so low that he needed every last voter if he was going to win.