Warezed SoundForge Files In Windows Media Player

An anonymous reader writes "German PC-Welt magazine reports that Microsoft used an illegal copy of SoundForge 4.5 (Google translation) for editing Wave files shipped with Windows Media Player. You can check that yourself by opening any file in the [Windows location] \Help\Tours\WindowsMediaPlayer\Audio\Wav\ folder in notepad or other editors of your choice and looking at the last line. There you will find a reference to SoundForge 4.5 and also a user called 'Deepz0ne' who happens to be one of the founders of an audio software cracking group called Radium."

Lessons to learn

[Anonymous Coward]

"Do as we say, not as we do."

A few angles...

[Last_Available_Usern]

Optimist's response: Maybe they were waiting for their activation code. Pessimist's response: They knowingly stole it. Realist's response: Even Microsoft has no use for MS Sound Editor.

It's ok, MS has indemnified everybody

[wowbagger]

It's ok, though, because Microsoft has indemnified everybody (except embedded Windows users), so just be happy this didn't happen in some terrible operating system without a big, strong, virile company like Micorsoft backing it...

Best Friend!

[Phluxed]

I want to shake the hand of the guy who forgot to license it properly.

BSA?

[molo]

Where is the BSA when you need them? :)

-molo

That intern is getting fired!

[HDlife]

That what you get when some jr. programmers make the adjunct software in a company where it takes forever to purchase anything!

MiCRoSoFT

[Anonymous Coward]

MS is the leetest crew out there. They are just giving greetz to their friends at RAD

-GRAViTY pwns j00!

Re:Lessons to learn

[Squareball]

With all the BILLION$ of dollars M$ has they can't even pony up the money for Sound Forge? Good god. If I was still running a pirated copy of windows I'd feel very vindicated.. but now I run a mac so..

Yep

[Anonymous Coward]

Just confirmed it.. ahh that makes me feel much better since I use warezed versions of microsofts development tools myself

Engrish

[alphapartic1e]

First sentence in the translated article:

Already times on the idea come ...

Really want makes me the article to read.

They Buy/Steal Everything - Powerpoint, Word ...

[Anonymous Coward]

Media Player, CD Burning, Internet Explorer, Anti-virus, DOS, etc etc..

is this really news? we already know microsoft is full of lousy programmers, thieving exceutives and probably hot chicks.. WE NEED A GIRLS OF MICROSOFT CALANDER!

Heads are going to roll in Building 50!

[OldManCoyote]

Heads are going to roll in building 50 at Microsoft (the location of their media player devs) when this goes around. So, is this the true representation of Microsoft DRM in action? ;-)

Order in the Court

[Paraplex]

Might the witness bring forward Exhibit A: "LISTB INFOICRD 2000-04-06 IENG Deepz0ne ISFT Sound Forge 4.5 " Sonic Foundry... I hereby admit to the court that I am indeed guilty on charges of being an accessory to theft and those of receiving stolen goods. Might my remorse and honesty be taken into account at the time of sentencing. 'plex

No Meaning!

[mpoulton]

But moment once who or which is " Deepz0ne "? (no meaning)!

Tell me about it! I have that problem all the time, man.


Methinks machine translation is still in its infancy.

Seriously...

[xstonedogx]

Already times on the idea come, one with Windows XP installed WAV file with the editor to open? That makes nevertheless nobody - Microsoft will have imagined, nevertheless innumerable WAV files on the computer and those lie are to to listen to and to do not look at there.

Off-topic me all you want, but what's the point of providing a Google translation of these things. It's like posting an article and expecting no one to RTFA.

Oh, wait...

Re:winwarez.jpg

[Anonymous Coward]

wow, it's not goatse

i almost feel disappointed :(

Re:Not a big deal really

[RedK]

So... how is it working as a sound file editor at Microsoft ?

Microsoft = 1337

[Magickcat]

Maybe it's a public relations stunt to counter Linux. Microsoft are trying to appeal to the 1337 market.

I just confirmed it

[Anonymous Coward]

In my case, the headline should read:

Warezed SoundForge files in Warezed Windows Windows Media Player.

Big Deal.

[sirrube]

That was in response to the developers of SoundForge using a warzed copy of windows.

MS didn't read the nfo

[Anonymous Coward]

Eval purposes only. Shame shame shame. They still probably have the extension associacted with system info.

proof you have no sense of humor

[circletimessquare]

did you see the big monty python foot next to the headline there big fella?

hover over it with your pointer... go ahead, i'm waiting

see what the pop up text says?

it says "It's funny. laugh."

do you understand the fucking concept? do you really?

because i don't think you do

i assert to you that unfunny negative asocial "article appropriateness" trolls like yourself second guessing the editors can do, and are perhaps doing, more damage to slashdot than any editor with a trigger happy post button ever can

capisce asshole?

learn to laugh

no, really: learn to fucking laugh

HA HA HA

>:-/

What's with the (s)he?

[exp(pi*sqrt(163))]

We all know he's a he. Women have better things to do with their time than crack software.

Re:No Meaning!

[ScrewMaster]

He's Deep Throat's second cousin, thrice removed.

M$ 0wn3d

[Space_Soldier]

You are 0wn3d, you bloody hypocrites!

Re:Not a big deal really

[TiggertheMad]

But this isn't some vast MS conspiracy here, nor I'm sure does it represent the tip of a huge warez-using portion of MS iceberg.

YOU DENY IT! Why do you deny it? Who said that there was a huge warez-using portion of MS iceberg, hmmm? The article didn't mention it. You seem awful defensive!

What kind of name is fzammette? Is that some sort of 'cover' or 'alias'? Why do you post under an alias, fzammette? Who do you work for? WHO DO YOU WORK FOR!

Supreme Best Translation Number 1!

[colonslashslash]

Windows Systemverzeichnis we became fuendig

Yes, those damn systemverzeichnis! We all get very fuendig when dealing with them.

For listening to MP3s the Windows codec was correct, but it offered only limited Encodierungsfunktionen

Its a well known industry fact that lack of Encodierungsfunktionen causes loss of sound quality.

Then one sees first only letter salad

Mmmm ASCII salad. Goes great with chicken and a glass of red wine so I'm told.

That might only in talking moon for the Windows the Media Player responsible person

Ummm... moon wha?

The statement of Microsoft is still pending, times sees, what says Microsoft for this.

It's true! German Yoda does exist! And he's working for a PC magazine. I knew it!

Re:proof you have no sense of humor

[rackhamh]

I'm blind, you insensitive clod!

Jobs Says Windows Users are Thieves

[pyrros]

This just in:

According to Steve Jobs, CEO of Apple: "The most common format of audio files on an windows system is 'warezed'." He appears convinced Apple will lead the way in Digital Rights Management and also believes Apple will steal a march on Microsoft in making the digital home a reality because Microsoft "doesn't have the volumes". "There is no way that you can get there with Microsoft. The critical mass has to come from the iPod, or a next-generation video device"

Re:MiCRoSoFT

[jbarket]

M$ 4r3 t3H |{=R4D H4X0RS. B1G UPZ T0 R4D1U/\/\, FUG L4M3RZ!#@%@! 1337 4 L1F3!

inaccurate

[nomadic]

There you will find a reference to SoundForge 4.5 and also a user called "Deepz0ne" who happen to be one of the founders of an audio software cracking group called Radium.

No, that's just Bob Deepzone (pronounced Deep-ZONE-ay). He works in the MS audio department.

Re:wow

[isny]

>> just...wow...I thought big M would have been smart enough to remove that.. if they had they probably woulda gotten away with it too..

You forgot "if it wasn't for those nosy kids and their stupid dog."

Re:MiCRoSoFT

[Geoffreyerffoeg]

1337 4 L1F3!

You're going to regret that when you turn 65 and you can barely understand English, let alone l33t....

Why is this "funny"?

[mark-t]

Seriously... how is a company, _ANY_ company, doing something like this remotely funny?

Does anyone remember

[marktaw.com]

That senator who said physical damage should occur to anyone's computer that had illegal software/music/movies on it? And does anyone remember when they found some JavaScript on his site that was used without permission?

Good times.

Re:winwarez.jpg

[pjbgravely]

ummm, Where do I find it is SUSE?

Re:Naughty, naughty...

[cosmo7]

No, apparently they did have the source for Sound Forge, but Microsoft couldn't get it to compile because the dongle krack for their pirate copy of CodeWarrior doesn't work.

Re:winwarez.jpg

[halivar]

wow, it's not goatse...i almost feel disappointed

If you don't get help at Charter, please, get help somewhere.

Mettalica too !

[Murphy(c)]

On a hunch I converted my entire MP3 collection into waves and ran a search for 'deepz0ne'.

And guess what, all the Mettallica [slashdot.org] tracks were made with a pirated copy of Sound Forge. Bastards!

Murphy(c)

Re:The real lesson

[Anonymous Coward]

Nope, that's when you keep all email to management requesting the required software and their response. When the deadline is missed you show it to them.

Oh, you put it in e-mail? All POs must be in writing and put in the blue inbox bin.

Oh, you put it in the blue bin? We are putting all POs in the red inbox bin.

Oh, you put it in the red bin? All that goes in the shredder. All POs must be faxed.

Oh, I'm out of paper? Why didn't you send it by e-mail?

What the hell are you doing sending registered mail to my home address? You can't expect me to work during my off hours.

Re:MiCRoSoFT

[_Sprocket_]

Suddenly, a large number of Slashdot users suspect that they've turned 65 without knowing it.

Re:Lessons to learn

[nebaz]

No, but three lefts do.

In other news...

[LaminatorX]

News.com.com has reported today that Sonic Foundry auditors have decended on Redmond Washington like an army of cossaks searching for pirated copies of Sound Forge and checking that each computer has a valid liscence for any Sonic Foundry software present on the Microsoft campus.

Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer was quoted as saying, "Well, we consider this a valid liscencse enforcement practice, so I guess we have to put up with it. We're just glad noone ran 'strings' on our TCP/IP stack for 'Regents of the University of California.'"

Re:A few angles...

[aled]

These is outrageous. We should force all employees to use typewritters.

Re:A few angles...

[Jugalator]

Optimist's response: Maybe they were waiting for their activation code.

Yeah, and MS employees have recently started adopting "cool" nick names like "Deepz0ne". :-)

Re:The real lesson

[operagost]

So how is that TPS report coming?

Re:The real lesson

[operagost]

"You know, if worked a little smarter by developing a simple GUI library, we could eliminate half the team ..."

I got laid off after 5 months

Looks like the GUI library did the trick.

Re:A few angles...

[Artifakt]

Try taking a hex editor that can examine your hard drive surface directly, and searching for common english 'four letter' words. Usually, you run across a few comment blocks that read "I forget what the **** this does, I was drunk when I coded it", and so on, and several screeds from crackers about how information wants to be free, except for their real address. For some reason, most of the Phrozen Krew types out there can't resist a little profanity in their comments.

Re:BSA Audit? Plus, the redistribution of the outp

[BrynM]

Oh, I just got a warm fuzzy at imagining Microsoft having to submit to a BSA audit. After all, if they think it's good for us, isn't it good for them?

I hope you enjoyed that fuzzy moment. I bet the audit would go something like this:

(office phone rings)
Microsoft Legal Wank: Microsoft Legal.
BSA Wank: Hi I'm Mr. Wank of the BSA and I'm conducting an audit of your software licensing. Do you have any known violations?
MLW: Hold on a sec (hold music)
BSAW: ...
MLW: Bill says no.
BSAW: Fine. I'll write it all up in a report. Thanks for your compliance.

Re:Lessons to learn

[Anonymous Coward]

A whole foreign what based on that line of thought? I'm sure people will be flocking to hear more of your wisdom Einstein.

Re:Lessons to learn

[rob13572468]

no but two wrights made an airplane...

Bill's view on this issue.

[Chas]

"SHIT! Now we have to go and buy SonicFoundry!"

Re:Lessons to learn

[Gentlewhisper]

In addition, what you fail to realize is that Microsoft still has every right to tell you what you are and are not allowed to do with their software. This right is not magically forfeited because of any illicit behavior on their part. Though specific rights in specific circumstances may warrant legal removal of certain rights to certain things they own - such as the application in question in this example - there is certainly no sweeping removal that would justify your illicit behavior. That's why remedies exist for this sort of behavior - to punish people. Part of that punishment does not involve removing the rights they retain on their property.

I beg to defer! It's Radium's software, not theirs!

Re:Lessons to learn

[Gentlewhisper]

They never could "tell" me not to do it--they do not have actual law enforcement policy. They could sue me, etc. and have a real legal authority punish me for doing it however.

You could always argue that you did not pirate Microsoft's software, but intended to get a copy of Radium's (originally FREELY available) file, and got Windows XP wrapped around it :D

Re:A few angles...

[iONiUM]

Yea i found quite a few drunken comments. Unfortunately it was all in code i've written. Nice tip.

Re:Lessons to learn

[the MaD HuNGaRIaN]

Ah, Karel the Robot [mtsu.edu].

Now, that brings back memories:

function TurnRight(){
TurnLeft();
TurnLeft();
TurnLeft();
}

Anyway...what's with all the political replies?

Search Microsoft!!

[originalhack]

There is only one way to tell how rampant Microsoft's piracy practices are....

Search Microsoft's offices and sieze all computers as evidence. After they are inspected, they can be returned unharmed with no damage done.

We must protect the intellectual property that drives our economy. Any minor inconvenience this causes Microsoft is certainly well justified.

Re:Lessons to learn

[mav[LAG]]

You buy a hotel, and you pocket $50 per room per night.

That's only if the other players land on your hotel often enough...

Re:Yeah right

[Zorilla]

You mean "pseudo-code", right?

Re:A few angles...

[Coulson]

From the codebase I work on:

"// FUCK: this is here for you to grep for"

Re:Not a big deal really

[Tim C]

Because they're idiots and you're not?

Re:Lessons to learn

[djlowe]

How many times does it have to be pointed out to you morons that COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT IS STILL ILLEGAL... it just won't sink in!

Re:Lessons to learn

[bryantee]

Pirating? Just using Windows is wrong...and should be illegal, too.