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Enterprise Finale Airing Tonight 571

Posted by Zonk from the that's-all-she-wrote dept.
Tycoon Guy writes "Be sure to tune in to UPN tonight, where they're going to show the 'true finale' of Enterprise with the episode Terra Prime, followed by the post-season coda, These Are The Voyages. The latter will feature appearances by Troi, Riker, and a completely CGI Enterprise-D."
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  • Fools, small chidren, and ships named Enterprise (Score:4, Insightful)

    by daveschroeder ( 516195 ) * on Friday May 13, 2005 @01:28PM (#12521569)
    I have been a long time devotee of ST:TNG. I, like many others, never got involved with Enterprise. And from what I hear, that's a shame, as by all accounts, the show has really become much better toward the end. I do admit I had very high hopes to begin with, but found it stilted and uninteresting during the first four episodes and gave up. But I know I won't be alone watching the finale just to get a glimpse of "new" ST:TNG cast action and the familiar Enterprise-D, no matter how brief.

    This will be the first time in almost two decades that a first-run Star Trek hasn't been on TV...the end of an era. Here's hoping that the Star Trek franchise can be revived at some point, even better.

    • Re:Fools, small chidren, and ships named Enterpris (Score:5, Funny)

      by Heliologue ( 883808 ) on Friday May 13, 2005 @01:32PM (#12521627)
      Sadly enough, I've gotten into loud arguments about whether Picard or Kirk was the better captain. It's a symptom of my horrible geekdom. For those of you wondering, by the way, it's Picard.

      • Re:Fools, small chidren, and ships named Enterpris (Score:4, Insightful)

        by stinerman ( 812158 ) on Friday May 13, 2005 @01:34PM (#12521653)
        You must be joking.

        It was Sisko by a long shot. He wasn't afraid to disipline people that needed it.
      • Without a doubt. I may be too young (35) to appreciate Kirk, but IMO he's almost too sad for words as an actor IMO. I can't hardly stomach even commercials with him in them. In fact, I think the only thing I've watched in recent years including him was Miss Congeniality, and that's because Sandra Bullock was looking hot in it. ;)

      • Re:Fools, small chidren, and ships named Enterpris (Score:5, Funny)

        by OglinTatas ( 710589 ) on Friday May 13, 2005 @01:50PM (#12521862)
        I agree that Picard was a better captain than Kirk, but there is a lot about star trek that bugged me, not the least of which was that Capt. Jelicho and Cmdr. Data were better captains than either of them. (Riker complained to Jelicho he was being too hard on the crew. HELLO! You were at war, Riker! It's not Jelicho's fault Picard never ran battle readiness drills.) Data was the victim of starfleet's basic pro-human bias. (Ever wonder why starfleet was topheavy with humans instead of the much longer lived vulcans?) It really galled me when Troi was promoted over Data. I wasn't even aware that she was an officer, I thought she was a civilian contractor (but she donned a uniform in later shows).

        And another thing, Troi sure was hot, but God, I hated the way she abused Worf. "A Klingon does NOT [do X]!" "Well, I'm not a Klingon, but I know I would feel [feeling Y] if I were confronted with [situation Z] [and I think you damn well better change your behavior and act more like me by doing X even though I'm not a Klingon, or I will make a recommendation to Capt. Picard to include this "deficiency" in your officer's fitness report]." Which invariably concludes with Worf changing his behaviour to be more like a human-betazoid hybrid than the Klingon he is.

        Sorry about that. Thanks for letting me vent my hyper-critical warp core.

        • Re:Fools, small chidren, and ships named Enterpris (Score:5, Funny)

          by mapmaker ( 140036 ) on Friday May 13, 2005 @02:00PM (#12521978)
          And another thing, Troi sure was hot, but God, I hated the way she abused Worf. "A Klingon does NOT [do X]!" "Well, I'm not a Klingon, but I know I would feel [feeling Y] if I were confronted with [situation Z] [and I think you damn well better change your behavior and act more like me by doing X even though I'm not a Klingon, or I will make a recommendation to Capt. Picard to include this "deficiency" in your officer's fitness report]." Which invariably concludes with Worf changing his behaviour to be more like a human-betazoid hybrid than the Klingon he is.

          Replace "Klingon" with "man", and "human-betazoid hybrid" with "woman" in the above statement, and you've got a stereotypical heterosexual relationship.

      • ...arguments about whether Picard or Kirk was the better captain.

        More important is who was the hottest eye candy female (of whatever species) crewmember?

      • That argument is universal (Score:5, Interesting)

        by Infonaut ( 96956 ) <infonaut@gmail.com> on Friday May 13, 2005 @01:55PM (#12521913) Homepage Journal
        Sadly enough, I've gotten into loud arguments about whether Picard or Kirk was the better captain.

        I'm with you on that one. Back when I was a young infantry officer in the Army, the three other lieutenants in my company and I used to get together at our CO's house to watch the latest Next Generation episode.

        We would get into blistering arguments about the leadership styles of Picard and Kirk. Two of the guys came down in favor of Kirk, and three of us (including our boss, the CO), though Picard was a better leader. We actually had extensive discussions about it, comparing their actions on various episodes to examples from the Army's leadership manuals, books we'd read about leadership, and our own real-world examples.

        A few months after these regular Trek sessions started, we were deployed to a rather remote part of Somalia. The CO asked his wife to record and send episodes, even though being a light infantry company we deployed with no real luxury items. Sure enough, several weeks after arriving in Somalia, we received a tape with two episodes. By then a heavy engineer unit had colocated with us, and we were able to phinagle a couple of hours on their TV late one night between patrols.

        Strange though it may sound, that night spent watching Trek with a generator humming loudly outside in the hot Somali air was one of the best cinematic experiences of my life.

        • I think the truth is in between. Kirk was the better tactician, but Picard was the better overall leader. I got the impression Picard really did know what was happening, or should have been happening, on his ship and he could make executive decision based on that. Kirk was the kind of guy that was good in a crisis and could quickly figure his way out of individual problems, but set himself up for another crisis down the road.

      • You're all wrong.

        The best captain, hands down, was Captain Pike .
      • "Sadly enough, I've gotten into loud arguments about whether Picard or Kirk was the better captain."

        *sigh*

        There'll never be a Slashdot: The Next Generation.
      • Picard is a wimp. Kirk is a man's man.

        Picard trys to go by the Prime Directive, even if it means misery for people on the planet. Kirk always violated it, because he put the good fortune of others ahead of a buerocratic/pollitical idea.

        Picard always tries to get out of fighting, if possible, tries to reason with Klingons, etc. Kirk knows that he has an edge in fighting, and that Klingons, etc won't listen to reason anyway.

        Picard always is concerned for the safety of his crew, and never has the engineer exceed safety regulations. Kirk knows that his engineer is smart enough to exceed safety regulations without endangering the crew.

        Picard is a prude, doesn't have many girlfriends. Kirk has a woman on every planet, and apparently spread his seed across the galaxy.

        Picard does not know how to fight, someone stronger than him can easily take him out. When faced with a genetically engineered madman with ten times his strength, Kirk evened the odds with a pipe.

        Picard is bald, even in the future there is no cure for baldness. Kirk lost some hair, but was smart enough to join the hair club for men or wear a toupee.

        Picard crashed his ship due to his mismanagement. Kirk set his ship to self destruct so the Klingons wouldn't get it, and it would take some Klingons out when it blew up.

        Kirk gave his own life to save Picard and the universe. Picard couldn't even save himself from his own clone, without having one of his crew (Data) sacrifice his life, because Picard is too much of a wimp.

        • Kirk gave his own life to save Picard and the universe. Picard couldn't even save himself from his own clone, without having one of his crew (Data) sacrifice his life, because Picard is too much of a wimp.

          In the interests of fairness, I must interject that Picard's characterization in Nemesis is extremely spotty. There's no real reason for him to behave as he does, nearly destroying the ship and killing his entire crew. The "action-hero" machismo gives way to resignation, with no attempt to stop the dea

    • Mentally, I never made it past the first episode. The Klingon in the cornfield was a touch much to stomache, and then when the electronics in Enterprise looked more sophisticated than in the Original Series, I just couldn't do it. I think trying to make a prequel to the Original Series, but having it tie into the later series whilst bypassing the Original, was a fundamental flaw. I really hope they don't try another Trek series until they have someone at the helm who truly understands what makes Trek great (hint: it ain't the technobabble).

      • Re:Fools, small chidren, and ships named Enterpris (Score:5, Funny)

        by kannibal_klown ( 531544 ) on Friday May 13, 2005 @01:38PM (#12521706)
        and then when the electronics in Enterprise looked more sophisticated than in the Original Series


        I see where you're coming from. But still, to make the set of Enterprise look less sophisticated than the Original Series would require them drawing on the walls with crayons or perhaps using vacuum tubes.
      • I really hope they don't try another Trek series until they have someone at the helm who truly understands what makes Trek great

        This last season has been very good. Manny Coto has been running it, not the Killer-B's. He has shown that he cares about original Trek. We've dealt with the nasty attitude of the Vulcans, the Klingon ridges, the initial steps of starting the Federation, dealing with Tellarite/Andorian/Vulcan hostility. Plus, of course, the killer "entire episode, including opening credits, i
      • Kind of like seeing the "progress" between Asimov's original Foundation Trilogy and the 500-years-later new Foundation novels mirror the 40-50 years progress in our world between the writing.

      • Re:Fools, small chidren, and ships named Enterpris (Score:4, Insightful)

        by OglinTatas ( 710589 ) on Friday May 13, 2005 @02:04PM (#12522028)
        As groundbreaking as the original series was, it was still based on '60s concepts of how the future would look. Even the later series, which did a great job trying to keep continuity with the original, had a few huge problems to overcome. One of the best episodes ever, DS9's reprise of "Trouble With Tribbles" had to contend with the fact that the original Klingons looked more like Ming the Merciless than they looked like "modern Klingons" with the riged forehead and larger muscles. There was no way to reconcile that, so they just had Warf say "We Klingons do not talk about it." How could Enterprise possibly make technology that looked more advanced than ours, but less advanced than the original? (Maybe they could have it look like current military technology, which already looks pretty high tech--HUD's and virtual controls on a multifunction touch screen--you know, like they used in later star treks, but more "today looking" so it naturally looks less advanced.)

        btw, I never watched Enterprise, I was already tired of the Star Trek universe by then (a few episodes of STV did that for me) but I hear that some of the actresses were pretty hot.
    • We'll probably have to wait a while. Personally, I don't want to see more Star Trek until they get Tweedledee and Tweedledum out of the producers' chairs. They stood on the shoulders of a giant and made a mess of his vision. Perhaps bring in some of the authors of Star Trek novels? Several of those books are pretty good reads... As for a time period, I'm thinking maybe post-Voyager (but not too long after).
    • I'm like you, but I gave up Star Trek after TNG. They all pretty much sucked after that, and even TNG had it's aweful moments. I had high hopes for Enterprise, especially with Scott Bakula who was great in Quantum Leap. But it degraded very quickly into the same old story lines as before.

      For real action, my choice of Sci-Fi is Stargate SG-1. With the exception of Season 7, it doesn't suffer from that "let's sit in a room and push buttons" syndrome that Star Trek has had problems with since the origina

      • I like trying to draw parallels between Star Trek and Doctor Who. With Doctor Who, there was one producer running the show for a long time, John Nathan Turner. I'm sure he's a fine producer, but anyone who runs a show that long is going to get into a rut. That staleness also carries into the creative team (writers, effects, costumes, ... yada) In the Star Trek franchise, you've got Brandon Braga, who's been running the Trek universe for a long time.

        I'm of the opinion that one team can't sustain the lev

    • [Mind plays tricks, coffee hits keyboard]

      The parents post looked like an attempt to put his own words to the Enterprise theme song...

      I've been a long time
      devotee of ST:TNG.
      I, like many others,
      ne'er got involved with Enterprise.
      And from what I hear, that's a shame,
      as by all accounts
      I've got faith!
      ...

      OK, so it wasn't that funny.

  • A shame (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Heliologue ( 883808 ) on Friday May 13, 2005 @01:29PM (#12521581)
    Poor Scott Bakula. He was so brilliant on Quantum Leap, but Enterprise just sort of floundered in the shadow of its predecessors.

  • Sounds like a real winner (Score:3, Funny)

    by ninja_assault_kitten ( 883141 ) on Friday May 13, 2005 @01:29PM (#12521582)
    "Meanwhile, far in the future, Troi suggests that Riker use a Holodeck recreation of this moment in 'Star Trek' history to search for some command insights."

    Who's the creative genium behind that one?
    • If Troi wanted command insights from me, she needn't turn on the Holodeck, laddie.

    • Re:Sounds like a real winner (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Tackhead ( 54550 ) on Friday May 13, 2005 @01:37PM (#12521690)
      > "Meanwhile, far in the future, Troi suggests that Riker use a Holodeck recreation of this moment in 'Star Trek' history to search for some command insights."
      >
      > Who's the creative genium behind that one?

      Data: The creative "genium", as you put it, appears to be the source of the problem.
      Troi: Yes, Data. And I'm getting a senation of bad scriptwriting and an utter lack of focus, Captain.
      Picard: Worf, target all weapons on the temporal rift and fire!
      Riker: Berman and Braga will finally get thier just desserts.
      Worf: I couldn't agree more. Firing.
      Wesley: I'm not touching this thread with a ten-foot warp nacelle. If our weapons can hit them the 20th century, Paramount's lawyers can damn well hit us.

  • and watch Enterprise for the first time.

  • Well I'm glad for one thing (Score:4, Insightful)

    by ravenspear ( 756059 ) on Friday May 13, 2005 @01:30PM (#12521609)
    At least this show will get a proper ending and avoid the Farscape treatment.

  • Ah...that explains it. (Score:5, Funny)

    by KipCas ( 872321 ) <{moc.oohay} {ta} {pik2y}> on Friday May 13, 2005 @01:31PM (#12521616) Homepage
    I was wondering why all of our evening shift IT guys called in sick.

  • Torrent already available! (Score:3, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 13, 2005 @01:32PM (#12521622)
    Yay, public TV sharing! It's hosted over at-

    +++
    NO CARRIER
    • It may be a bit of a coincidence, but the timing of those BitTorrent sites being sued seems to have been judged to perfection by the RIAA, just in time to piss off the tech-savvy Enterprise fans by deprieving them of the finale...

  • Now slashdotters can turn their attention to.... (Score:2, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward
    ...finding a date for Friday nights...buhahahahahaha, like that'll ever happen...

  • It isn't fair (Score:5, Funny)

    by Bronz ( 429622 ) on Friday May 13, 2005 @01:34PM (#12521652)

    Why do they have to cancel a fantastic show like this when there is so much drivel on television. This show was refreshing in its character depth and unique take on human colonization of space. I really enjoyed the sneak preview of the upcoming movie.

    Huh? Enterprise? Meh. I thought we were talking about Firefly. HEY! Maybe the last episode will be a daring holodeck thriller featuring 19th century villians! I hope Whoopie has a guest appearance.

  • Please people, let the show die... (Score:3, Funny)

    by Gopal.V ( 532678 ) on Friday May 13, 2005 @01:34PM (#12521655) Homepage Journal
    I really don't want to watch a repeated space fight with some soft porn ..

    Truthfully, they killed the show - almost. Let it die in peace

    The show sucked [userfriendly.org]

  • Let me guess.... (Score:5, Funny)

    by espergreen ( 849246 ) on Friday May 13, 2005 @01:34PM (#12521657) Homepage
    Sam leaps into the Enterprise D as Commander Riker and must save the relationship between him and Troi

    Oh wait..that was the good show with Scott Bakula :)
    • No, Riker will wake up, turn to Troi and say, "You won't believe it, but I just had the most amazing dream...". It will then pan out to the Enterprise-D and they'll roll the credits.

      Nielsen agents will be present in all major cities to measure the collective volume level of the ensuing screams for ratings purposes.
  • Finally it's done!

    I've had this on my wall at work for 4 years!

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12163&cid=2295 18 [slashdot.org]

  • Not quite (Score:3, Interesting)

    by davmoo ( 63521 ) on Friday May 13, 2005 @01:40PM (#12521749)
    In the blurb about "These Are The Voyages" on Trek Nation, Brannon Braga says:

    "Some of the Enterprise cast members were very hurt that we would put Next Generation cast members on Enterprise."

    They should have been more hurt that Braga and Company gave them such drek to perform in.

    Maybe the next series or movie will be something actually *good*, instead of what ever rejected story line Paramount happened to have laying around the day someone said "Let's make a new Trek series!!!"

  • Saturday also... (Score:3, Informative)

    by canolecaptain ( 410657 ) * on Friday May 13, 2005 @01:41PM (#12521751)
    For those in New England, it will actually be airing in Saturday at 8pm instead of Friday since it's been replaced by baseball. What iritates me the most is that no mention of this is made on the UPN site - I simply stumbled upon it a couple of weeks ago.

    While I'll agree that the writing could have been better for most episodes, the shifting program times of this and other shows without mention is what drives me to stop watching the shows I like. The fastest way to kill viewership (besides bad content) is unannounced show shedule changes. And, "we told TV Guide" excuses don't cut it.

    I'm looking forward to these final episodes. While Enterprise has been a far cry from the quality of Battlestar Galactica, this last season has been better.
    • New England Geek: Man, the finale of Enterprise sucked. The Federation gave up so many runs, not even Captain Archer's line drive on bases loaded bottom of the 9th could have saved them.

    • Re:Saturday also... (Score:3, Informative)

      by MagicDude ( 727944 )
      For those in New England, it will actually be airing in Saturday at 8pm instead of Friday since it's been replaced by baseball.

      The Red Sox are in Seattle tonight, and the Yankees are in Oakland. Both games will air at 10PM tonight, so Enterprise should be on schedule tonight. That's what TVguide online is showing anyways.

  • Enterprise eventually learned (Score:5, Insightful)

    by ravenspear ( 756059 ) on Friday May 13, 2005 @01:41PM (#12521758)
    what most Sci-Fi still hasn't. That is that writing and telling a good story is still the most important element. They've gotten it right this season, but it was too late to save it.

    Given the setting of this series, the logical place to start in the story was getting Earth established in the space of the era, meeting other species, forging alliances, making enemies, forming the beginnings of the Federation, etc. This is exactly what they've done this season and it's been brilliant. Had they started this way, the show would still be on the air.

    But no, for the first two seasons we had Andy Griffith in space (yes it really was THAT boring), and then they had to trot out such over the top monstrosities as a war through time and huge insect aliens that wanted to annihilate earth. It didn't help that they broke continuity a lot with the other series (introducing the Borg, etc.). This is not the Trek that the fans came for and many of them left, never to return. Unfortunate but it reinforces one of the basic requirements of any fictional narrative that many people still don't grasp. If the story isn't compelling it won't be a success. Given the past success of Trek, you can't just slap the name on any piece of work and expect that alone to carry you.

    • Andy Griffith, boring? People still love the thing (Score:5, Interesting)

      by ianscot ( 591483 ) on Friday May 13, 2005 @02:47PM (#12522546)
      writing and telling a good story is still the most important element... ...But no, for the first two seasons we had Andy Griffith in space (yes it really was THAT boring),

      Brzt. Does Not Compute.

      Andy Griffith's like a lot of other classic TV -- if you watch it now next to the latest crop of new sitcoms, you realize how well-written the thing was. Each episode's basically a little one-act play, and it's pretty tight writing. It's basically superior to Enterprise in the traits you're talking about, despite no story arc from episode to episode. That would explain why people still remember favorite episodes of Andy Griffith decades after its run ended, whereas Enterprise is dying of neglect despite a colossal built-in audience.

      TV used to do so much better with character actors than it does now. The Mary Tyler Moore show wasn't episode after episode of "Mary goes on another date," you know? (Ted, Murray, Lou Grant, Sue Ellen, Rhoda, Phyllis, Georgette.)Heck, "Leave It to Beaver" looks like a friggin' Pulitzer Prize-winning play next to Voyager or Enterprise, and the cast of regulars was more interesting, despite them all being whitebread suburbanites.

  • Except in Phoenix (Score:3, Interesting)

    by BattyMan ( 21874 ) on Friday May 13, 2005 @01:42PM (#12521768) Journal
    Where it'll be preempted for basketball.

    DOH! I spoke too soon - it'll be delayed two hours and aired at 9PM.
    Wow, the season finale must be _important_ - usually they just go with Malcolm
    at its usual 9PM and delay Enterprise until 2AM Saturday!

    You never can tell when or if Enterprise will be on. No wonder it got poor ratings - we can't find it even if we try.

  • de rigueur (Score:5, Funny)

    by Black Parrot ( 19622 ) on Friday May 13, 2005 @01:46PM (#12521815)


    "It's dead, Jim."

  • Enterprise reached its stride too late (Score:3, Insightful)

    by stlhawkeye ( 868951 ) on Friday May 13, 2005 @01:51PM (#12521874) Homepage Journal
    I never saw seasons 1-2. But from reading show synopses from TV Tome [tvtome.com] it sounded awful to me.

    I did see a few episodes involving a terrorist attack on Vulcan, and I liked what I saw. However, it wasn't compelling enough to pick it up and try to get into it. I liked the scene where they were playing basketball on the ship, it really connected "us" with "them".

    I might check out the coda.

  • Nooo....

    BTefnet appears to have broken. Now how am I going to watch it tomorrow morning?

  • I guess I'll chime in... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by NardofDoom ( 821951 ) on Friday May 13, 2005 @02:44PM (#12522506)
    I didn't like Enterprise. Suprise, suprise, right?

    Here's what I didn't like about it: There's all this really amazing stuff going on at Earth. Humans have just learned they're not alone. They've just received technology that basically makes economics impotent, as well as technology that allows them to spread throughout the galaxy.

    What do they do? Go far, far away from Earth! Nobody cares about politics or other stuff. There's a species with three genders we've never heard of! There's a temporal cold war! How about making contact with the Romulans? Nobody wants to watch things about how people deal with life-changing events.

    The last season has really picked up. The idea of Terra Prime is excellent. If they had run with this idea from the beginning, maybe they'd have a seven year run like TNG.

    Obligatory: Berman and Braga killed it.

  • Ughhhh preempted by something (Score:3, Funny)

    by iLeader ( 680112 ) on Friday May 13, 2005 @02:53PM (#12522603)
    For the past I dunno, 4 weeks it's been replaced with some sort of game in which players hit a ball will a stick. I have to download it in order to see it

  • CGI? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by fm6 ( 162816 ) on Friday May 13, 2005 @03:27PM (#12522976) Homepage Journal
    ... a completely CGI Enterprise-D
    Really? Tvtome is reporting that they rebuilt 10-Forward for this ep. Also the Constellation-class bridge in the mirror universe eps was very obviously not CGI. Perhaps they borrowed the original set back from the Smithsonian, though that would probably be as expensive as building it from scratch. Interesting that they would spend so much money on sets only meant to be used once. Last-ditch effort to boost production values?

  • At least with fan films.... (Score:3, Informative)

    by Anonym1ty ( 534715 ) on Friday May 13, 2005 @04:33PM (#12523790) Homepage Journal

    At least with fan films I can still get Star Trek:

    New Voyages [newvoyages.com]
    Star Trek Hidden Frontier [hiddenfrontier.org]
    Starship Exeter [starshipexeter.com]
    Tales of the Seventh Fleet [ussjustice.org]
    Star Trek: Intrepid [ussintrepid.net]
    USS Hathaway [usshathaway.com]

    Audio:

    Star Trek: Pioneers [pioneeraudio.tk]
    Star Trek: The Section 31 Files [darkerprojects.com]

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