Sony DVR Useless After Rovi Stops TV Guide OnScreen 321
New submitter speedlaw writes "Rovi has just announced that they are stopping the TV Guide OnScreen service as of April 13th, 2013. This was announced via the service itself. This is an on-air listing service that provides listings over the air, as part of an OTA TV signal. Many devices, notably the Sony HDD 250 and 500 Digital Video Recorders, will no longer function without the clock-set data this stream provides. When other companies decide to stop supporting something, they don't make older systems useless. Worse, Sony never came out with another DVR in the U.S. market. Why do we have to rent them? How do we get Sony or Rovi to provide at least a software patch to set the clock so the DVR can at least retain 1980s VCR functionality? Sony admits there is no fix. A thread on AVS forums has a bunch of information on TV Guide OnScreen. The TV stations who broadcast the data have been ordered by Rovi to disconnect the data inserters and ship them back. I have a TiVo, and yes, I know all about HTPC, but this data stream was 'lifetime listings' like TiVo has 'lifetime listings' — now that Rovi is looking to cut service, my two DVR units are about to become useless."
Re:What are the channels doing? (Score:5, Informative)
Thats what happens here in Australia too, the networks broadcast program data over-the-air through the DVB-T streams. How far into the future depends on the network but all of them do it.
Re:What do you expect? (Score:5, Informative)
Bashing onwards (Score:5, Informative)
Is this meant to be another bash SONY because they are "evil" "article"?
Before you head down that line, note that:
- Rovi (corporation) used to be called Macrovision.
- This is for a (free?) Over The Air service.
- No link to the Rovi announcement or their reasoning.
- Affects any device and service relying on Rovi and their data.
It seems to me this is just another move to get people onto cable where media companies can exert more control over content (and the people watching) and rake in more money.
Not this one. (Score:5, Informative)
From what I read, Sony decided to save pennies by not having a rtc, and relying on the ota signals. So no ota clock signals, no clock, no work.
Re:Normal End of Life cycle (Score:4, Informative)
Will you take it to the apothecary or the cobbler to get it fixed? Or perhaps you could take your autogyro to the haberdasherer instead.
"Ending is better than Mending."
Aldous Huxley, Brave New World
Re:What are the channels doing? (Score:4, Informative)
You don't state where you are but they also broadcast the data on DVB-T in the UK, and the Sony recorders are still next to useless. They used some proprietary data source that died a few years ago and now the best you can manage is 1980s VCR like functionality where you program the clock and then a recording time and channel. Not exactly the experience you expect with a high end high price DVR.
The data is broadcast, just not for this box (Score:5, Informative)
The data is available, and broadcast, alongside ATSC signals via the PSIP system. But this particular box chose to use the proprietary system instead; I believe it provided data much farther out than the PSIP data.
Re:What are the channels doing? (Score:5, Informative)
You do not need to wait a couple of years. I purchased a Samsung TV (LN-750B model - although not for the smart TV functions) and they promised all sorts of applets for the TV. Netflix being one of them.
9 months later, a new model comes out and Samsung releases a firmware update for my model. What does it do? Locks the set to the last available firmware and makes it unmodifiable. Then they drop all support.
Netflix never appeared for it either. Better to have an expensive "dumb" TV and a cheap smart box to attach to it.