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Netflix Discussing Keeping Streaming Rights To Disney's Marvel, Star Wars Films (reuters.com) 52

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Reuters: Netflix is in "active discussions" with Disney about keeping Marvel and "Star Wars" films after 2019, when new Disney and Pixar movies will stop appearing on the streaming service, a senior executive said late on Thursday. Disney announced on Tuesday that it was pulling new Disney and Pixar films from Netflix, starting with new releases in 2019. It will start putting the movies on a new Disney-branded online service that year. Disney Chief Executive Officer Bob Iger told analysts the company had not yet decided where it would distribute superhero films from Marvel Studios and movies from "Star Wars" producer Lucasfilm, which the company owns, at that time. Netflix is still in discussions with Disney about retaining rights to stream Marvel and Lucasfilm releases after 2019, Chief Content Officer Ted Sarandos told Reuters.

Netflix Discussing Keeping Streaming Rights To Disney's Marvel, Star Wars Films

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  • by Anonymous Coward

    From now on, I'm going to pirate everything.

  • No thanks Disney (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 11, 2017 @09:02PM (#54995951)

    Disney makes great movies but there's no way I'm going to buy another subscription and install another app just to watch a couple Disney movies. I guess that means I'll just have to pirate Disney movies again.

    • by mjwx ( 966435 ) on Friday August 11, 2017 @09:43PM (#54996161)

      Disney makes great movies but there's no way I'm going to buy another subscription and install another app just to watch a couple Disney movies. I guess that means I'll just have to pirate Disney movies again.

      The sad thing is, I think we may be heading back into the same situation that Amazon and Netflix are trying to free us from... Cable/Pay TV companies.

      There are now so many different streaming services that its starting to make sense to combine them and sell them as a package. The problem is that this will bring back the old rot of trying to force people to buy packages they dont want just to get one damn show.

      • The difference is it's easy to be fluid and switch back and forth.Right now, I can pay $15/mo for a couple of months and watch everything new (shows, movies) in the HBO catalog on HBO Now. Then, I can discontinue my subscription and get a subscription to Netflix for a few months and do the same for new programming that I haven't seen there. Then repeat for Hulu, CBS, etc, until there are new items on HBO and start the process all over.
        • by mjwx ( 966435 )

          The difference is it's easy to be fluid and switch back and forth.Right now, I can pay $15/mo for a couple of months and watch everything new (shows, movies) in the HBO catalog on HBO Now. Then, I can discontinue my subscription and get a subscription to Netflix for a few months and do the same for new programming that I haven't seen there. Then repeat for Hulu, CBS, etc, until there are new items on HBO and start the process all over.

          That is until they negotiate exclusivity deals. When the re-seller generates 60%+ of their business, they can simply say to HBO, go through us or we'll make your package too expensive.

          You've got to think about how lazy the average person is and remember that half of them are lazier than that. They aren't going to maintain 28 different subscriptions, they aren't even going to think about looking to see if they can purchase an axed channel separately. This laziness gives the package re-seller power.

          • You've got to think about how lazy the average person is and remember that half of them are lazier than that. They aren't going to maintain 28 different subscriptions, they aren't even going to think about looking to see if they can purchase an axed channel separately. This laziness gives the package re-seller power.

            Well, except you're ignoring one important detail - that was Cable TV's modus operandi, and people eventually got fed up and started leaving in droves. That situation is still fresh in everybody's minds. They're not going to be easily drawn back into paying large amounts of money again just for convenience's sake.

          • by nnull ( 1148259 )
            I'm certainly not. I'm not going to maintain multiple subscriptions just to watch a show. There is a reason piracy exists and it's because of this nonsense.
      • Re:No thanks Disney (Score:4, Interesting)

        by swb ( 14022 ) on Friday August 11, 2017 @10:52PM (#54996523)

        What the fuck ever happened to "universal rental", where the entire back catalogs of the studios were available for digital rental?

        I mean, you still can't do that now and many of the movies have been available on DVD, so it's not like they haven't had them telecined to a digital format.

        Is the black hole of back catalogs just to keep crotchety old men like me from watching old movies and force me to buy into newer content?

        Is it *really* "licensing disputes" on 40-some year old movies because the soundtrack or some actor didn't have a clause for digital distribution? I mean, a movie made in 1970, many of the principals are probably *dead* by now. They're not cruising iTunes or Amazon and calling up Sidney Bloomenberg on the phone and bitching they're not getting a cut. Their ancestors are merely happy that a check still shows up once in a while.

        • by Kjella ( 173770 )

          Is it *really* "licensing disputes" on 40-some year old movies because the soundtrack or some actor didn't have a clause for digital distribution? I mean, a movie made in 1970, many of the principals are probably *dead* by now. They're not cruising iTunes or Amazon and calling up Sidney Bloomenberg on the phone and bitching they're not getting a cut. Their ancestors are merely happy that a check still shows up once in a while.

          1. I think you mean descendants not ancestors.
          2. You think dealing with heirs is easier. I think it's harder because there can be many heirs, they got no relation to the movie business, no career or portfolio to think of and very often they don't have the same interest in the art - it's an inheritance and they want cold hard cash. And they know their little piece of it is blocking a big release so they try charging a lot for it. And if there's many such little pieces, the project might not be worth doing.

          I

          • by tlhIngan ( 30335 )

            1. I think you mean descendants not ancestors.
            2. You think dealing with heirs is easier. I think it's harder because there can be many heirs, they got no relation to the movie business, no career or portfolio to think of and very often they don't have the same interest in the art - it's an inheritance and they want cold hard cash. And they know their little piece of it is blocking a big release so they try charging a lot for it. And if there's many such little pieces, the project might not be worth doing.

            I

      • by Kjella ( 173770 )

        There are now so many different streaming services that its starting to make sense to combine them and sell them as a package. The problem is that this will bring back the old rot of trying to force people to buy packages they dont want just to get one damn show.

        Well with cable you have their set top box and their selection of packages. While there's certainly a few "anchor" series like Game of Thrones, I doubt they'll be able to pull off the "our way or the highway" strategy as well as in the past.

    • by mellon ( 7048 )

      The irony of this is that I am desperate for Netflix to stop with the damned Marvel shows, because they suck. (No offense if you like them—that's just how I feel about them, and I know reasonable people can feel otherwise). So for me it is unmitigated good news if they can't renew.

      • Jessica Jones was good, but the rest are middling at best.

      • by bjwest ( 14070 )

        The irony of this is that I am desperate for Netflix to stop with the damned Marvel shows, because they suck.

        Perhaps you should be upset with the person tyeing you to a chair forcing you to watch them rather than Netflix for producing them.

    • The other thing is that the media companies' players all suck. They are utter shit. They are a pain to use. I gave up on CBS/Fox/etc and now wait it out for Amazon or Netflix.

      It's very clear that whatever organization designed those players either used high school programmers and/or had a requirements alteration every week. The end product provides a horrible experience. And all these guys constantly keep updating the website for slower, flashy designs. The whole experience is crap.

      Hulu had it right in the

  • People are getting sick of superheroes, and that whole "invincible asskicker" wish fulfillment fluff. That also goes for Star Wars, which is approaching Star Trek-like levels of tiredness. Netflix should pass on all of this instead of doubling down on a genre about to implode.
  • Disney or no Disney (Score:3, Interesting)

    by rtb61 ( 674572 ) on Friday August 11, 2017 @09:22PM (#54996039) Homepage

    You know what is skulking in the back of this, net neutrality. Disney will continue to supply content to Netflix if net neutrality remains in place and Disney will stop supplying Netflix if net neutrality goes. Disney and the other 5 corporations, will collude with the telecoms to use cabal powers to cut off Netflix, raise it's internet costs to bankruptcy rates and divide the business amongst themselves using anti-competitive collusion to inflate prices and reduce access. This same model to be used to target and eliminate self publishers, either pay corporations a 30% content tax or be finnacially excluded from the internet. Hmm, look at who owns the the 6 US mains stream media corporations and who owns the incumbent telecoms. They know exactly what they are doing in order to force a 30% corporate tax on anyone who tries to distribute content. Corporate taxes are from God and government taxes are from the Devil (just ask any Republican or Corporate Democrat).

    • Great observation. It'll take something like that for the general public to "get" Net Neutrality

      • That is not what net neutrality is. None of these are service providers. Net neutrality WOULD be when Comcast starts to throttle (again) traffic for services like Netflix and the upcoming Disney streaming service, or implementing data caps and charging for their bandwidth while bypassing throttles for their own stream service.
    • Disney and the other 5 corporations, will collude with the telecoms to use cabal powers to cut off Netflix, raise it's internet costs to bankruptcy rates and divide the business amongst themselves using anti-competitive collusion to inflate prices and reduce access. This same model to be used to target and eliminate self publishers, either pay corporations a 30% content tax or be finnacially excluded from the internet.

      Dude, it's like the apocalypse with the four horsemen and the mark of the beast. Just with an extra horseman. Or something.

      • by rtb61 ( 674572 )

        Dude are you nuts or what, it's like typical run of the mill corporate monopolistic tactics and nothing more than that, sometimes greed is the conspiracy that serves itself, nothing more than that ie inflate the value of the companies gaining a monopoly they can exploit to raise the bonuses of the corporate psychopaths who scheme and conspire to put it in place, regardless of the harm to the companies in the long run or society as a hole. Sometimes greed driven stupidity is just greed driven stupidity, no g

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      This is what I don't get about the whole 'save net neutrality' debate.

      Everyone keeps arguing for rules/laws to keep the net neutral, but I think that's the wrong discussion to have. It's trying to treat a symptom instead of the disease.

      What we should be pushing for is a separation of content companies and internet services.

      Because as soon as none of the content companies control the internet, they'll demand net neutrality by default so that their content gets 'fair access' right alongside everyone else.

      Any

    • You know what is skulking in the back of this, net neutrality.

      You have gotten some REALLY bad LSD man. You seriously think Net Neutrality has ANYTHING to do with content licensing? You are insane.

      With or without the NN rules as they were, all of the companies you mention would be under severe anti-trust trouble for doing what you say - assuming the other cable companies even WOULD go along with Disney, and utterly screw themselves over with customers even worse than they already were.

      Your post is the nig

  • The fact that Disney stock dropped about as much as Netflix when the first round was announced, was notice investors weren't happy
    Disney wants to lock up the family movies. It's their old niche.
    Their other content will wither and die without broader access. Netflix can get what it wants. The content that appeals to over 12 yr olds. And Disney can try to run it's own family channel. A small loss of Netflix. Only time will tell if Disney successes.
    Frankly, I doubt Disney will succeed, though it may t
  • Disney is FAMOUS for their shitty media delivery decisions.

    They are always late to a new tech, after castigating it for years as a new way for pirates to steal their crap.

    Then they come out with a particularly crappy version of whatever the new tech is, crippled from an iteration about 4 years previous, in order to 'prevent piracy' but which is really a naked grab for more revenue.

    Anyone remember the original DivX?

  • Netflix Canada just raised their prices... something that's going to happen elsewhere too if they have to pay more and more of "premium" content. So I say to Netflix: walk away when things start getting Starz-like. Australia, now Canada.. who's next? Oh, and while in the last round of prices increases its current Canadian subscribers had a year or so until the price increase started to affect them, now it's suddenly just a "matter of weeks". That first tidbit wasn't on the press release and that's why you d

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