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London's Radio Pirates Changed Music. Then Came the Internet. (nytimes.com) 92

Earlier this month, The New York Times ran a story which looks at the ways a network of illegal radio stations changed British music, and wonders where young people are going to make culture now, now that the internet is killing off the pirate radio. An excerpt from the story: Ofcom, the British communications regulator, estimated there are now just 50 pirate stations in London, down from about 100 a decade ago, and hundreds in the 1990s, when stations were constantly starting up and shutting down. Ofcom considers this good news, because illegal broadcasters could interfere with radio frequencies used by emergency services and air traffic control, a spokesman said.

But pirate radio stations also offered public services, of a different sort: They gave immigrant communities programming in their native languages, ran charity drives and created the first radio specifically for black Britons. Pirate radio was also the site of some of Britain's most important musical innovations, introducing pop to the airwaves in the 1960s and incubating the major underground British music trends of recent decades, up to and including dubstep and grime: Dizzee Rascal, Wiley and Skepta all launched their careers on the pirates.

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London's Radio Pirates Changed Music. Then Came the Internet.

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  • seriously? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by cascadingstylesheet ( 140919 ) on Monday October 08, 2018 @04:05PM (#57447112) Journal

    and wonders where young people are going to make culture now, now that the internet is killing off the pirate radio.

    It has never been easier to promulgate "culture" (e.g. audio) that you make.

    It has to be a $%^&load easier for more people to make music with today's tech and put it out on the internet than it was to do it with older tech and try to get it onto "pirate radio".

    • Re:seriously? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 08, 2018 @04:07PM (#57447122)
      Fair point. But here's the perspective from the article: "Pirate radio was the last safe space you have as an artist to make mistakes" according to Jama Little, 27, a grime M.C. from Hackney who performs as Jammz. "With online," he said, "if you get it wrong, it's forever."
      • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

        Online it's much harder to get noticed too. There are people on Twitch to stream to no-one for weeks on end, just hoping that they will eventually get a viewer. Pirate radio had much higher listening figures.

  • For example, the sole reason of this word being in the title, because it evokes modern usage of "piracy" as incredibly stupid but accepted word for "copyright violation".

    Obviously, when you are using a radio frequency without paying for it, you are actually taking somebody's resource: nobody else can use this band in that area.

    Modern copyright infringement does nothing of that sort.

    Result: confusion, obfuscation, disinformation, propaganda.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      Many of the early "pirate" radio stations in the UK were in fact broadcasting from actual ships. Radio Caroline [wikipedia.org] comes to mind immediately.

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      by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Monday October 08, 2018 @04:18PM (#57447186)
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      • For anyone who likes a lighthearted movie based on this premise I can only recommend: The Boat That Rocked [wikipedia.org]

        That said I know British humour and American humour differ slightly so it may not be everyone's cup of te.... black watered down thing you call coffee.

        • Thanks for reminding me of this. Saw it a few years ago and had completely forgotten the name of it. Really good film, definitely worth re-watching.
      • >The term "Radio Pirate" was used in the 1960s, it had nothing to do with copyright violations

        I know. I wish you and at least 4 other people know how to read. That's exactly the point I am making.

      • > I suspect this is why it translated so easily over to other kinds of unlicensed activity, including copyright infringement.

        That might be true, but what is more important is the difference between two activities that I pointed.

    • Obviously, when you are using a radio frequency without paying for it, you are actually taking somebody's resource: nobody else can use this band in that area.

      And why would a non-corporate person care??? Its an unused radio frequency. If it was a radio frequency used by a commercial entity (the only "people" who can legally obtain a radio frequency to propagate their positions/culture), they would blot out the pirate station with the kilowatts of electrical power used to broadcast.

  • by scourfish ( 573542 ) <scourfish@@@yahoo...com> on Monday October 08, 2018 @04:07PM (#57447120)
    If this journalist wonders where "the young people will make culture" in the age of the internet, then this journalist is stupid and probably doesn't know how to internet very well.
    • by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 08, 2018 @05:28PM (#57447674)

      ...or maybe this is more complex?

      Rather than being the promised burgeoning of the "long tail", the web has become a giant (western)world-wide game of winner takes all.

      Go to a council estate in London/Manchester in the 1990s and you would find local culturally relevant microcosms of expression. Those expressions would hold and find resonances in thousands of people in the local area. Some of them take root in a wider sense and give rise to "stars", but it is that expression of a local identity that was the value.

      Go to youtube now and you will find 40e6 videos with 10 views, and 10 videos with 40e6 views, posted per day. That isn't a long tail, that is a delta function.

      Winner takes all. Diversity wiped out, homogeneity rules. The web is the enabler of that, for better and (more likely) worse.

      • That really does sound lovely. My experiences with culture that isn't lame come from the vibrant and liberated 90s punk scenes in the states. Electronic music didn't catch on quite as strong here (thought that culture was absolutely present), and we certainly didn't have anything like the massive Reclaim the Streets parties, but it's something. It's incredible to go back to the fanzines of that era and see literally hundreds of ads and reviews for records, dozens of columns, dozens of interviews, reports on
    • At least short sighted. The progression of the pirate stations to the internet has been going on for over 20 years now. https://www.wired.com/1997/12/... [wired.com]
  • So, they used the phrase "could interfere" with regards to emergency broadcasts. That sounds like excuse wording. At the very least it's unclear wording. Why not 'did' or 'sometimes' interfered?

    We're at the tail end here. DID it interfere with critical infrastructure, or was that an excuse used to attack interference with purely commercial broadcasters?

    • We're at the tail end here. DID it interfere with critical infrastructure...?

      No. In interfered with culture by exposing good English people with ethnic American folk music, causing them to spontaneously start dancing. And not some English dance where you spin in a circle with your back as straight as your upper lip, but rock and blues dancing, a sensual experience involving the whole body, and laying bare emotional exuberance.

      But they couldn't stop it, because America, and WWII. So in the end they had to suffer not only the Rolling Stones, but even the Beatles.

      They should have been

    • So, they used the phrase "could interfere" with regards to emergency broadcasts. That sounds like excuse wording. At the very least it's unclear wording. Why not 'did' or 'sometimes' interfered?

      In the past, some did, sometimes. For the future, you use future tense words like "could".

      We're at the tail end here. DID it interfere with critical infrastructure,

      No, dear, it is an ongoing problem, not the tail end.

      or was that an excuse used to attack interference with purely commercial broadcasters?

      You don't believe that interfering with licensed broadcasters is a bad thing?

  • by ve3oat ( 884827 ) on Monday October 08, 2018 @04:29PM (#57447248) Homepage
    I was an SWL (short wave listener) from the 1950s until about 1990 and I can't recall any "pirate" radio station that could possibly interfere with emergency services or air traffic control. Most "pirate" broadcasters operated on frequencies in the domestic AM and FM broadcast bands (where ordinary people could hear them) or, if on short wave, near the international broadcast bands (naturally) or on *clear channels* in the so-called Fixed Public bands (point-to-point press and commercial services, etc) or in the Maritime Mobile bands. None of the "pirate" stations wanted to interfere with anyone else because then they would suffer interference too. (Radio interference is a two-way street, you see.) I think the Ofcom statement is simply a regurgitation of some self-serving bureaucratic mythology.
    • by Calydor ( 739835 )

      Most of them probably also knew that if a specific pirate station was KNOWN to interfere with emergency services and someone died as a result there would be nowhere to hide. None of their fans would protect them in that case.

    • by shippo ( 166521 )
      It was a problem here in the UK several decades ago, as the FM waveband was also used by the police and other emergency services. Once these services moved to other frequencies during the early 1990s, the number of UK FM radio stations expanded rapidly. As did the pirates!
    • I think the Ofcom statement is simply a regurgitation of some self-serving bureaucratic mythology.

      At this point it might just be a self-driving bureaucratic mythology, since the internet makes moot any continuing practical government interest.

      • At this point it might just be a self-driving bureaucratic mythology, since the internet makes moot any continuing practical government interest.

        The internet makes government interest in the radio spectrum moot? You've got to be kidding.

    • by Obfuscant ( 592200 ) on Monday October 08, 2018 @05:34PM (#57447706)

      I was an SWL (short wave listener) from the 1950s until about 1990 and I can't recall any "pirate" radio station that could possibly interfere with emergency services or air traffic control.

      You appear to have a ham callsign as your ID. Words like "harmonic" and "spurious emission" should be familiar to you.

      Most "pirate" broadcasters operated on frequencies in the domestic AM and FM broadcast bands

      They had their primary emissions there. The fifth harmonic of 92 MHz is 460MHz, which is a US public safety allocation.

      or in the Maritime Mobile bands.

      The Maritime Mobile bands are involved in safety of marine operations, and indeed, people use those frequencies for emergency traffic.

      None of the "pirate" stations wanted to interfere with anyone else

      Maybe. Maybe not. But "want" is not "didn't". If wishes were horses then beggars would ride. The guy who thought it was a great idea to have a mobile cell jammer in his car to try to prevent other people from legal use of their phones in their cars "wished" he hadn't interfered with police and fire communications, I bet -- but didn't consider it until after he was caught.

      because then they would suffer interference too. (Radio interference is a two-way street, you see.)

      No, I don't see. If I am operating on 3.900MHz and getting splatter from the third harmonic of a pirate AM station on 1.300MHz, how is my operation interfering with him?

      I think the Ofcom statement is simply a regurgitation of some self-serving bureaucratic mythology.

      The fact that you don't understand the technology doesn't mean the regulators of that technology are ignorant. The fact that you understand so little about radio and yet appear to have a license to use it unsupervised does say something about Canada's licensing system.

      • by ve3oat ( 884827 )
        I am very familiar with the generation, emission and suppression of harmonics and other spurious responses. But none of the "pirate" stations that I could hear on this side of the Atlantic operated on frequencies that interfered with other stations of any service. And none of them had harmonics detectable here. I am saddened that, being closer to them, your experience was different. I do hope that you joined the RSGB's intruder watch to assist in the regulatory enforcement effort. Your ad hominem work
        • But none of the "pirate" stations that I could hear

          You didn't claim you couldn't hear the interference they could be generating, you claimed:

          ... I can't recall any "pirate" radio station that could possibly interfere with emergency services or air traffic control.

          "Could possibly" is a very strong statement. It implies you know something about the issue. You claim to be "very familiar" with spurious emissions and harmonics, and yet you cannot imagine any way that a pirate "could possibly" cause interference.

          Whether you can detect harmonics of a station on the other side of the planet or not doesn't prove jack shit about whether they were interfering, and now you show a lack of

  • Years ago I happened to stumble upon stories about how some of these "pirate" stations took up residence in offshore military installations left over from World War II. I spent the better part of a day reading about ingenuity and innovation of those stations in particular. To my knowledge we never had anything comparable in the USA, which is a big shame; apparently after the Revolutionary War we ceded our revolutionary mindsets back to British citizens?

    • Years ago I happened to stumble upon stories about how some of these "pirate" stations took up residence in offshore military installations left over from World War II. I spent the better part of a day reading about ingenuity and innovation of those stations in particular. To my knowledge we never had anything comparable in the USA, which is a big shame; apparently after the Revolutionary War we ceded our revolutionary mindsets back to British citizens?

      Actually, we did and still do, but they are mostly low power stations that broadcast over a very narrow area.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]

    • I guess you didn't spend enough time reading.

      Radio "piracy" began with the advent of regulations of the public airwaves in the United States at the dawn of the age of radio. Initially, radio, or wireless as it was more commonly called, was an open field of hobbyists and early inventors and experimenters. ...
      When the "Act to Regulate Radio Communication" was passed on August 13, 1912, amateurs and experimenters were not banned from broadcasting; rather, amateurs were assigned their own frequency spectrum, an

    • by shippo ( 166521 )
      Admittedly there were some restrictions on UK radio at the time. Firstly only the BBC was allowed to operate radio stations, having just the three national services, one of which was essentially part time. Secondly the BBC was encumbered by 'needletime', the Musician's Union imposed limit on how much commercially available music could be played on the airwaves. It was a ridiculously low limit, forcing the BBC to use session recordings, or more likely cover versions of current hits by non-entities. Only one
  • As a kid I have many fond memories of sneaking a pocket radio with a cheap earphone out after bedtimes, just lying in bed listening to Radio Luxembourg fading in and out with the atmospheric changes. I would have loved to have been nearer to London so I could have gotten the legendary radio Caroline too, but Luxmebourg was it where I lived, take it or leave it. If you Americans want to know what I'm talking about, watch the movie "Pirate Radio/The Boat That Rocked".

    It seems to me that the internet enables r

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  • I'm surprised the neither the article nor this discussion mentions the connection between pirate radio and drugs.

    By the time I personally encountered pirate radio, in the 1990s, it was essentially run by drug gangs. The radio played music, to get listeners, and "advertised" to those listeners by promoting (also illegal, unlicensed) raves, which were a major distribution venue for the then-popular synthetic drugs, Acid and Ecstasy, and some less common synthetics. (Not pot).

    At the turn of the millennium I wa

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