'I Got Death Threats For Writing a Bad Review of Aquaman' (huffingtonpost.com) 384
The Huffington Post recently published a post by one of the 300 members of the Broadcast Film Critics Association -- and a contributing writer to Variety:
I saw "Aquaman" on a brisk Monday morning in December. Though I appreciated that star Jason Momoa didn't take himself too seriously while playing an underwater superhero, the glut of CGI effects distracted me from the story. Which was hollow and nonsensical anyway. As with every movie I watch -- up to four a week, hundreds a year -- I expressed my opinion in print and online for Us Weekly, as well as my own site, MaraMovies.com. The review was also linked on Rotten Tomatoes, where I'm a Top Critic.
Since I had a lot of films on my busy holiday schedule, I quickly moved on. Hundreds of men who read my review did not.... [Example comment: "I will kill your mom, dad and friends Bcoz I want [you] to regret for what u did. I have your address and details about your family members."] I reported the messages to Instagram and was rebuffed because, per the automated response, the vitriol didn't "violate community guidelines." Didn't matter. They found me on Facebook and Twitter, too.... Nearly 2,000 people "liked" a post in which some guy made a collage of my face and a few negative reviews.... I wasn't scared by the threats as I much as I was disheartened. One guy summed it up when he messaged me: "How many of us are you going to block? There are thousands of us."
Ironically, the review wasn't all negative. It called Aquaman "the first live-action D.C. Comics movie in which a superhero actually appears to be having fun. Batman, Superman, the Suicide Squad, even our beloved Wonder Woman tend to behave as if they just lost their 401(k) savings during the apocalypse." Yet rifing on the critic's last name, one commenter still wrote "hope another Holocaust happens."
Instead of "thousands" of angry fans, it could just be hundreds who are using multiple accounts. But there's a larger issue. "I worry that reading volumes of hate mail is starting to get in my head and cause me to consider the potential angry male ramifications while I'm writing my reviews, thereby compromising my integrity."
Since I had a lot of films on my busy holiday schedule, I quickly moved on. Hundreds of men who read my review did not.... [Example comment: "I will kill your mom, dad and friends Bcoz I want [you] to regret for what u did. I have your address and details about your family members."] I reported the messages to Instagram and was rebuffed because, per the automated response, the vitriol didn't "violate community guidelines." Didn't matter. They found me on Facebook and Twitter, too.... Nearly 2,000 people "liked" a post in which some guy made a collage of my face and a few negative reviews.... I wasn't scared by the threats as I much as I was disheartened. One guy summed it up when he messaged me: "How many of us are you going to block? There are thousands of us."
Ironically, the review wasn't all negative. It called Aquaman "the first live-action D.C. Comics movie in which a superhero actually appears to be having fun. Batman, Superman, the Suicide Squad, even our beloved Wonder Woman tend to behave as if they just lost their 401(k) savings during the apocalypse." Yet rifing on the critic's last name, one commenter still wrote "hope another Holocaust happens."
Instead of "thousands" of angry fans, it could just be hundreds who are using multiple accounts. But there's a larger issue. "I worry that reading volumes of hate mail is starting to get in my head and cause me to consider the potential angry male ramifications while I'm writing my reviews, thereby compromising my integrity."
Welcome (Score:5, Funny)
to the internet. You seem to be new here...
Re:Welcome (Score:5, Insightful)
>"Welcome to the internet. You seem to be new here..."
Indeed. There is a component of Internet users who apparently have a huge lack of social skills, respect for others, or even basic moral values. Having watched this Internet grow from nothing to what it is today, I think it is showing just how detached some humans can be from reality when they are not actually in front of other people. They can spew hatred and stupidity without any regard to how it affects others, because perhaps those others are not real.
It seems to be the same thing that happens when some people drive- it is as if their brains fail to compute that those other cars around them are not just stupid machines in your way, but vehicles being driven by people. People who have thoughts, feelings, motivations, desires, hopes, goals, deadlines, frustrations, just like your own and yet with different viewpoints and realities.
The other main problem with Internet communication it that it is primary written. And usually written rapidly and with little thought. As a social creature, humans rely surprisingly heavily on social cues when communicating. We already went through one dramatic change when phones came on the scene- we lost all visual cues and had to adapt to just vocal ones. But with text, we lose not only visual cues, but the audible ones as well. It is so very easy to completely misunderstand such text- especially when emotions are involved.
So my advice to those using the Internet/texting/whatever:
1) Remember that you should never write (or say) things you wouldn't do if your audience weren't right in front of you. There are actual people behind the scenes.
2) Remember the golden rule.
3) Remember that what you write/say/do is often public record. And even if it were meant to be public, it can easily be so when copied/forwarded.
4) Remember to give people the benefit of the doubt. Don't assume you know exactly what was meant.
5) Remember to place reason above emotion. I am not saying you shouldn't be emotional, or have emotion, or passion, or empathize; just don't let emotion drive all your interpretations and responses.... try to have balance and run things through your logical mind before acting.
Re:Welcome (Score:5, Interesting)
Thank you for adding some intelligence, I used to love reading comments in Slashdot but now it makes me wonder what happened to humanity.
The biggest impact social media seems to have had on humans is the idea that if someone disagrees with you, it's because they are obviously stupid and desire your ridicule and vitriol. There no longer seems to be intelligent debate or even discussions on the likes of FB or Twitter in the same way you had it in the old days of Usenet and other public internet forums.
I'm saddened that the average person is more like Donald Trump than any sort of intelligent, thinking being while on the internet and its taking its toll on the smart people who remember what it was like to have a discussion with other smart people.
Re:Welcome (Score:4, Insightful)
And the problem is worse thanks to how Facebook et-al work. People end up in bubbles of "friends" that all agree with them, so it makes a dissenting voice (like a movie review) seems abhorrent to them.
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"Thank you for adding some intelligence." ... stupid..."
"The biggest impact social media [has had] is the idea that if someone disagrees with you, it's because they are
did Mark Davis actually add intelligence, or do you just not disagree with him?
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"did Mark Davis actually add intelligence, or do you just not disagree with him?"
It's not very smart to use your real name on the web.
Not only for this reason.
If you want credit, you have to take the threats as well.
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There no longer seems to be intelligent debate or even discussions on the likes of FB or Twitter in the same way you had it in the old days of Usenet and other public internet forums.
I think you must be looking at the past with rose coloured glasses or just stuck with a subset of Usenet. There were lots of trolls and worse, but luckily we had killfiles so it was easy to ignore them.
Re: Welcome (Score:4, Insightful)
Ok, I'll bite. He installed a cabinet of people that want to dismantle everything we've accomplished thus far. Head of EPA: against the environment. Head of Education: against public education. Head of DOE: didn't know it meant nuclear. Head of FCC: against net neutrality. He filled the proverbial swamp rather than drain it. He essentially kidnapped thousands of children at the southern border. He's simply not a moral or ethical person, and often acts beneath the dignity of the office.
Re: Welcome (Score:3)
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I think it is showing just how detached some humans can be from reality
What you are seeing is a symptom, not the disease. The problem, one of the problems with the internet is that there is nothing anyone can do to stop relentless people. It's all a king of the hill battle and there are people who are winning through sheer persistence, just because they metaphorically can't die and everyone else eventually gives up or moves on. In the real world, people who are relentlessly wrong suffer consequences and become irrelevant. There is no corrective for spouting stupidity on the in
Re: Welcome (Score:2, Insightful)
As a counterpoint, I'll kill your family.
Until certain factions decided that we should take the internet into the real world, this was supposed to be the Internet, where nobody knows you're a dog.
Whereas our corporate overlords insist on me giving my every personal detail, I propose the alternative: don't tell me who you are. Don't tell me where you live. Only give personally identifiable information to people you trust, don't broadcast it to the universe.
That's why I post AC exclusively these days. I don't
Interesting, Insightful, and Informative (Score:2)
+3 if I could.
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The safest way to 'respond to pressure' is to further slow down. The person tailgating you is actually setting it up so the safe distance rule requires you to slow down even more.
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FTFY.
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Back when Andrew Breitbart was a co-founder of Huffington Post, it wasn't the fever swamp that it has become.
"the potential angry male ramifications" (Score:3, Insightful)
Oh, this is really just a female being hounded by nerdy incels. It likely has little to do with Aquaman, if anything.
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I hope their incel status becomes a lifelong badge of honor for these dipshirts.
Proof positive. (Score:4, Insightful)
Maybe just means it is fun (Score:3)
I'm not particularly tied to any brand of superhero - I've watched most of the Avengers stuff, and a lot of the DC stuff.
I've not yet watched Aquaman but from the previews, and from some reviews I've seen it seems like Aquaman at least took things a bit less seriously - so maybe Aquaman is a bit more like the Spiderman movies in that regard?
So I could easily see between that and some large showpiece effect pieces how it could gross a billion. Or maybe it's because underwater fights in movies are much more
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I'm not particularly tied to any brand of superhero - I've watched most of the Avengers stuff, and a lot of the DC stuff.
For some reason, I tend to enjoy the Marvel movies more than the DC movies - don't know why. Perhaps it's the tone of the movies or simply the stories and characters. In any case, I usually wait for the DC movies to come out on TV to watch them, and I don't tend to re-watch them.
In either case, the movies "Captain America: Civil War" and "Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice" annoyed me because (for one reason) the main conflict could have been avoided if the characters had simply talked and listened to ea
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I also in general enjoy the Marvel stuff more, I think the relationships between the characters are more interesting, or possibly have a bit more depth? Or as much depth as they can have in a. superhero movie anyway.
I did like Wonder Woman, but why not as much as some other Marvel movies, I really can't quite say...
I totally agree with you about both Captain America: Civil War and BvS. I had the same issue.
One thing I will say about the value of all the DC movies if they have accidentally led to the great
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Of recent superhero stuff, the ones I liked best (in no real order) were:
Incredibles (if animated stuff counts)
Iron Man
Wonder Woman
Spider Men (various)
Hellboy
X-Men future past
Original Bat Man movie and Dark Knight
It could well be, the reason I don't put Wonder Woman at the top is that I have seen so many superhero movies at this point...
The reason is because it has an actual theme that ties the scenes together.
I think some of the other ones manage that (Spider Men movies better than most). But it is rare a
Noddy: Toyland Detective is also failure to ask (Score:2)
the movies "Captain America: Civil War" and "Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice" annoyed me because (for one reason) the main conflict could have been avoided if the characters had simply talked and listened to each other.
Half the episodes of Noddy: Toyland Detective are the same way, incidentally.
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Oh, in this timeline the *live action* "Beauty and the Beast" movie is the 14th largest grossing film *ever*.
The words of Lord Dark Helmet of Spaceballs have proven prophetic: we are all, indeed, surrounded by A*holes.
Re:Proof positive. (Score:4, Informative)
Oh, in this timeline the *live action* "Beauty and the Beast" movie is the 14th largest grossing film *ever*.
Not the live action B&TB movie, but merely a live action B&TB movie. There are several, the most noteworthy being Jean Cocteau's 1946 version.
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Not the live action B&TB movie, but merely a live action B&TB movie. There are several, the most noteworthy being Jean Cocteau's 1946 version.
Are any of them based on an animated feature? The one we're discussing has the distinction of there being absolutely no reason for it to exist save to make money. I understand that films are commercial ventures, but honestly, just put the animated one back in the theaters. It was charming, and the Gaston number was hilarious.
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If sheer volume was an indication that the critics were wrong then you ought to be a fan of 50 shades of grey. It is after all one of the best selling books ever and I believe the fastest selling.
Never pay attention to internet hate (Score:5, Interesting)
"I worry that reading volumes of hate mail is starting to get in my head and cause me to consider the potential angry male ramifications while I'm writing my reviews, thereby compromising my integrity."
So then, why are you reading it?
It's usually apparent in the first few words what is going on. Just stop reading and move on. It's not even worth the effort of writing up a rebuttal, unless maybe you use the effort for a writing exercise or just for the lols.
But if you do read it, just remember that death threats on the internet are absurdly hollow. No-one wants to actually get up from a chair and do anything about anything (in that regard, possibly people with standing desks should be taken slightly more seriously - they will definitely let you know if they have a standing desk).
If you have more of your public info known maybe take steps to give the local police a heads-up about possible swatting attempts, but that's as far as you need to think about it.
The internet has seen people issuing all manner of death threats or creepy vibes since the dawn of time. Taking any of it even a tiny bit seriously makes zero sense. Just think of them as a write-only form of fan and happily keep doing what you do. There a special irony these days in people that hate follow you, in that they are inherently increasing your internet "attention metric" which makes you numerically more important than you would be otherwise!
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But if you do read it, just remember that death threats on the internet are absurdly hollow. No-one wants to actually get up from a chair and do anything about anything ...
I’m sure the guys who are making internet death threats aren’t deterred by getting up from a chair. It’s the long climb up the stairs from their mom’s basement which really gives them pause.
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I'm sure the guys who are making internet death threats aren't deterred by getting up from a chair. It's the long climb up the stairs
Yes, that is directly related to the computer security concept of...
Defense in Depth
Um... because she's a journalist? (Score:2, Insightful)
I've been trying to figure out why folks are so obsessed with SJWism lately. It's treated as a major crisis online on par with our economy, education, global warming and the US Healthcare system. A few angry feminists with little or no political power doesn't seem to be a good focal point for a movement w
I'm responding to her concern (Score:2)
and sifting through crap you and I would find abhorrent for the sake of reporting and chronicling things is what she does for a living?
That might be what she was doing for this article, but why continue after - when I'm saying saying it's better not to read, I am mostly responding to her expressed concern that it would affect what she chose to write going forward. If that's a concern, stop reading the content that might affect you in that way.
Just like some people won't drink coffee at night, if you know s
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A wise man once wrote "Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Cyber Bullying Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Walk Away From The Screen Like Nigga Close Your Eyes Haha"
Let us ponder the depths of his wisdom and open our eyes to his truths.
Not at all... (Score:5, Interesting)
(1) It's her fault for feeling bad.>
No - I'm saying it's in her ability to not feel bad about it. Big distinction, which I'm sure will elude you but I think the smarter among us will grok it.
(2) She should be thankful for the attention.
The term "thankful" is incorrect. However as long as anyone is able to shrug off negative comments, in fact there is a net positive - especially for someone writing for publication, what the "corporate machine" as it were sees is a LOT of comments on something you wrote. Score!
See what a lot of people don't seem to understand here is that the saddest thing on the internet is to write something, which no-one pays any attention to. Hate or Love are signs that you have moved someone, which is valuable either way - because you have changed the universe in same way, at least a little bit.
(3) Her level of fame is undeserved.
I'm not sure how you get there from where I was, her level of fame simply IS. How anyone could state a particular level of fame is "undeserved" makes zero sense to me, as it is what they have and "deserved" does not enter in the equation.
Going back to specifics, I think her review was probably about right (not having seen the movie yet it's hard to be sure, but it sounds right from what I've heard).
Generically, I'm just giving everyone advice on how to live, so as to lead a happy and productive life that elevates humanity as a whole instead of being lowered by a small fragment of it. Going back to that Love/Hate thing, both are energy and all energy can provide fuel for your own creative efforts. Nuclear material is powerfully destructive, but energy from a nuclear plant can power a million greenhouses of the finest flowers...
I seem to aggree with the review (Score:2)
Aquaman was probably one of the better DC movies. (Haven't seen WonderWoman yet). The acting was alright. The plot wasn't without holes, but which super hero movie has an ironclad plot. The CGI was sometimes terrible: DC really need to stop the "fight while flying" scenes that look straight out of a bad live action dragon ball z. They were terrible in Justice League and the under water duel in Aquaman had similar problems.
Overall, it entertained me for a couple of hours and I'll probably rewatch it at some
Re:I seem to aggree with the review (Score:4, Funny)
Aquaman was probably one of the better DC movies.
Perhaps, I haven't seen it yet, but after hearing Pitbull's cover of "Africa" for the film, and then very desperately wishing I could un-hear it, I'll probably wait to see Aquaman after I'm dead, if I end up in Hell -- or if I become deaf between now and then.
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The acting was alright.
When a big budget movie has "alright" acting, that is a face-first acting flop. They have a whole team of people, before, during, and after, spending millions of dollars conspiring to make that acting look awesome.
Re:I seem to aggree with the review (Score:5, Funny)
...but which super hero movie has an ironclad plot.
Iron Man, obviously.
I guess some people cared about Aquaman (Score:2)
I wanted to see Disney release their own ground breaking Marvel superclassic new idea:
Sub-Mariner
at the exaxt same time as Aquaman.
All I am saying, is give fish a chance. /s
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Sub-Mariner
Given how well Aquaman did financially, I can almost assure you we will see that. They will leave no corner of the Marvel universe undisturbed, it will just take time to turn over every rock.
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Pity that Namor will be seen as a ripoff, even though its comics came out first.
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No, Deadpool is actually a ripoff of Deathstroke. Or he started as one, before they made him a parody.
I wouldn't worry too much (Score:2)
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These people are basement dwelling losers. It is right and proper that they are offended by mere criticism of a comic book adaptation.
No that can't be, all the basement dwellers are far to busy posting angry and.paranoid rants about Apple and Microsoft on Slashdot.
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One is compelled to wonder... (Score:5, Insightful)
Honestly, if it isn't, I would have stopped using the service... and if my job depended on it, I would explain to my employer why I did so, or at the very least, require a raise on account of needing danger pay.
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I would have stopped using the service...
That's their goal - suppress any voice that isn't their own. You see it over and over: Maxine Waters, antifa, white supremacists - anyone who disagrees with their agenda must be silenced. If threats of violence don't work then they'll escalate...
Problem is scale though (Score:2)
Sure, it's against terms of service.
But the problem is how do you find that balance of, letting as many people as possible provide feedback and thus feel more engaged - vs. locking down the system so much no-one wants to contribute, and they feel unwelcome.
If you really want to control things via "terms of service" you need to have a system locked down enough you can actually manage to control it. But then you are s
Re:Problem is scale though (Score:5, Insightful)
Problem is still scale though (Score:2)
You can stop right there: no excuse needed. The most trivial form of moderation is all that's needed.
That's trivial to say, but the reality is even the most trivial form of moderation is very hard to do - even simply getting rid of death threats which are super obviously useless. For any site with a lot of separate articles, that is WAY too much work for humans to do, and for some reason automation to date seems to not do a very good job catching anything that really should be blocked... it's true of any s
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Srsly? (Score:2, Insightful)
What does the word "male" do in that sentence except adding sexism? Does it matter what gender the hate mailers have?
Re:Srsly? (Score:4, Interesting)
It's not well explained but in this case there is more to the story.
After Wonder Woman was the only decent DC movie and held up as proof that a female lead and director can make a good action/comic book movie, there was a bit of a backlash from the Men's Rights crowd. They decided that they would manufacture the same kind of buzz about Aquaman, holding him up as an example of the ideal hyper-masculine dude after Wonder Woman kinda humiliated him in Justice League.
What you have to understand is that they really don't care about men's rights, they just hate feminism and blame it for all their problems. So they wanted to make sure that Aquaman did well and send a message to the studios that manly man men movies were more profitable and popular.
Thus anyone criticising Aquaman is a target of these guys.
Re:Srsly? (Score:4, Informative)
Thus anyone criticising Aquaman is a target of these guys.
Why do you always default to SJW bullshit rather than realising that there actually a lot of angry comic fans out there. Death threats to reviewers aren't even new, and certainly predate Aquaman and Wonder Woman. Some people are just pissed that Warner Brothers are shitting on their childhood memories by releasing flops that get hammered in the reviews.
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there was a bit of a backlash from the Men's Rights crowd.
And only you noticed.
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You are not just a disgusting racist sexist sick in the head fuck. You are also a tool for a big corporation
Stop holding back and tell us how you really feel.
Psychopaths and sadists (Score:5, Insightful)
2% of the population are psychopaths; also 2% are sadists.
In a world of nearly 8 billion people - with 4% psychopaths or sadists that is 320 million people who have a natural tendency to do such behavior. So when you are on a platform like twitter or instagram and can be contacted by anyone - chances are you are going to encounter a large number of them. Since the platforms allows some anonymity - they can engage in their behavior with little risk of repercussions.
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My mother was terribly afraid of those statistics and urged me to stay in a small town where there were fewer people. I don't think she understood that percent means "per hundred".
On the other hand, I pretty much knew all the madmen in Chatham by sight (;-)) less so in Tranna.
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2% of the population are psychopaths; also 2% are sadists.
In a world of nearly 8 billion people - with 4% psychopaths or sadists
The numbers don't add like that. It's possible to be a member of both groups.
Just saying.
No you fucking didn't. (Score:2)
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No, in Hawaii you have to pretend to like it just to stay alive
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Well, Aquaman sucks!
Wow (Score:4, Insightful)
You people posting these hateful replies and death threats (!!) in response to a movie review need to get a life.
If you have a life, then you need to get a better one.
I can't imagine being so incensed over a movie review as to actually start making death threats.
For example, casting that pint-sized douchebag Tom Cruise as the character "Jack Reacher" really, really, really pissed me off, but it never occurred to me to send a death threat to anyone over it. Sheesh.
(For those of you who aren't familiar with the original, actual Jack Reacher character, one of his main distinguishing features is that he's a big guy- really big. Like, way way way bigger than Tom Cruise. That's part of his whole schtick- he's a great big dude. It's central to his entire character.
Picking Tom Cruise to play Jack Reacher was the single most fucked-up character casting choice I've ever seen in my life, period. It would be like picking one of the Oompa Loompas to play Arnold Schwarzenegger, or having Liberace play "Dog The Bounty Hunter.")
A negative review, not a bad review (Score:5, Funny)
You mean to say that you wrote a negative review of the movie. Not that writing a bad review is ever justification to receive death threats, but now you're at risk of getting hate mail from the grammar Nazis too.
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English doesn't have grammatical rules; it is an open language. All you could do is catalog known grammatical constructions, or write a style guide with your suggestions.
Grammar nazis are idiots who don't comprehend the basics of the language; they don't even know where they think rules come from!
Those idiots are gonna write some hate mail. There is no way to prevent it. They're not willing enough to read to ever find out that their teachers overstated the "rules."
Would rather drink in a bar with bouncers (Score:4, Interesting)
I recently caught an article by Max Read about how much of the Internet is "fake" in the sense that the readership is actually bots defrauding those paying for the ads:
http://nymag.com/intelligencer... [nymag.com]
I bring up this topic because it strikes me that the people paying for all these sites may soon demand to know how many verifiable human beings are actually in the audience.
5 years ago, much less 20, you wouldn't have caught me saying that a lot of the web should be not locked behind paywalls exactly, but require proof-of-individual-humanity at least. And that would in practice lead to "proof" via credit card. Now I'm ready to cave on that anyway.
I'd rather live in a society that has cops; rather drink in a bar that has bouncers. I'd rather talk in a space where threats of violence result in not only permanent expulsion, but the same legal consequences as saying the same thing to my face. (An assault charge. Mere threats are an assault. Hence the term "assault and battery" if actual contact occurs.) Right now, assault is a crime IRL but not on the Internet, in any practical sense.
And I think that 99% of this crap would stop if the commentators all knew that the threatened person could find out where they live and send over cops with an assault charge.
I have an appalling habit, of comments on news columns. It's pointless, I know, it's identical to shouting at the TV, but there you go. (It started with /. in the 90s) I notice that the NYT and WaPo, which require a sign-up to comment, almost never have harsh language, much less threats. I used to comment at The Atlantic, which did not...and now The Atlantic has shut down the whole comment system, since they were just providing a chat room that was mostly used by angry people, the thoughtful ones having been chased out of the bar with no bouncers.
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I guess maybe internet sock-puppets spend even less money than real-life sock-puppets!
Real sock-puppets at least need laundry detergent.
But not really a premium demographic.
Gimme a break (Score:3)
I got death threats way back when for pointing out that Nickelback sucked.
How did she know they were men? (Score:4, Interesting)
The specific use of a gender over the generic "people" suggests the author has a chip on her shoulder; how does she know it was men, or all men?
Call the police (Score:2)
That's it? (Score:2)
If that derails you, I guess I better not repeat the replies I got to a review I did on Ghostbusters 2016. Could I get some hollow death threats instead?
While I'm certain some people threatened him... (Score:4, Insightful)
Two issues.
1, "Huffington Post"
2, "Hundreds of *men* who read my review did not" (which is exactly why, Huffington Post gives a shit)
Jason Momoa is a handsome man, currently in the "omg yes please!" Club for girls (and some men) across the world. I find it hard to believe this guy was threatened only by men. Furthermore, I suspect this was exaggerated, due again to #1, who have an act to grind.
They may as well be called "extreme left, hate white men post" at this point.
http://i.4pcdn.org/tv/14639966... [4pcdn.org]
Re:While I'm certain some people threatened him... (Score:4, Insightful)
Oh one more thing!
How is this news for nerds, stuff that matters? I'm surprised BeauHD didn't post it, to be honest.
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Someone else pointed it out, about a year back and I haven't stopped noticing it since.
Want a social justice post? Look for BeauHD on slashdot, yay let's politicise the site, thanks.
(I googled his twitter too, same stuff there)
Stick to news for nerds, stuff that matters, that's all we want.
Superhero movies (Score:3)
... the story. Which was hollow and nonsensical anyway
That is every single superhero movie ever (almost).
He must have known that going in.
It wasn't that bad really.. (Score:2)
A lot of men... (Score:2)
...well boys really, seem to too depended on the rest of the world liking exactly what they like. They need some sort of validation that they aren't getting in their real lives. Or they're just anarchist trolls.....or both.
SJWs or alt-right dingus (Score:2)
Hit generation anyone? (Score:2)
WTF? (Score:4, Informative)
I mean, the first Thor movie was pretty crap and there were't any death threats there. And don't you tell me it's anti male because there's a strong female lead in it. Go read the bloody comics. Aquaman's wife is a fucking bad ass and has been since the late 70s (not sure before then, didn't follow that era). You wanna piss off Aquaman fans (both of us)? Go make a male power fantasy where his wife needs a savin'.
Mod up please (Score:2)
Mod up please
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LOL you'd wet yourself for sure if it happened to you
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"Being that Aquaman was aggressively marketed towards women"
It was supposed to make them wet?
Idiot doesn't read review and just assumes... (Score:5, Informative)
Her review is hardly a feminist critique of the movie. The negative points it details are bad CGI, wooden acting, cheese ball lines, and poor romance sub plot chemistry while acknowledging that the character of Aquaman himself was much more fun than the rest of the DC universe heroes.
Now I haven't seen the movie so I have no idea how accurate her claims are but what is glaringly obvious is that there's no radical feminist agenda preset in it.
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Re:Feminist hates on male Superhero. Gets hate mai (Score:4, Insightful)
Huffpost is not long for this world. They are owned by AOL/Verizon. Verizon gives companies 2-3 years to 'prove themselves'. Then they come in and tear shit up if it is not 'performing'. There is no way huffingtonpost is performing. Dialup is performing better from what I remember.
Media outlets owned by corporations or other special interest groups operate by different rules than other companies. The way they perform is measured by how many people they reach because that translates directly into the ability to shape public opionin which has all kinds of benefits for the owner of the outlet other that what nickels and dimes they earn off of it. If a media outlet turns a profit that is only gravy.
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Looks like this place is fucked either way.
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Looks like this place is fucked either way.
No, it looks like they are only fucked if their hit rate goes down or if they start questioning the wisdom of the 'suggestions' their corporate overlords have on what topics they should concentrate their writing on and what slant their writing should have. It's pretty much the same as various parts of the Murdoch media like, say .... Fox News for example. Except I expect entities like the Huffington Post to be much more subtle about it. Fox News is, in the best of gutter press news reporting tradition, a bi
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HuffPo is subtle with their sexism like Donald Trump is subtle with his trolling.
How are online threats "masculine" (Score:2)
he recent Gillette commercial where the company said men should tone down their toxic masculinity.
Online threats are the very opposite of "masculine". Raging hormones in men say "let's take it outside then", not "let's step into my basement with the wall full of Hentai statues and DVD rips".
Online threats are the very domain of beings that are neither masculine or feminine; indeed they have chosen to strip themselves even even the most basic levels of humanity or physical attributes.
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Ugga wugga wugga? Ugga ugga! Wugga ugga ugga, ugga wugga, ugga. UGGA GROG! GROG WUGGA UGGA!!!
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he recent Gillette commercial where the company said men should tone down their toxic masculinity.
Online threats are the very opposite of "masculine". Raging hormones in men say "let's take it outside then", not "let's step into my basement with the wall full of Hentai statues and DVD rips".
Online threats are the very domain of beings that are neither masculine or feminine; indeed they have chosen to strip themselves even even the most basic levels of humanity or physical attributes.
True enough. The issue I have is the bigoted and prejudicial way that all men are tarred and feathered with the toxic masculinity BS. If Modern women are't trying to make enemies of all men, commercials like the Gillette one would seem to be aimed at doing just that.
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the recent Gillette commercial where the company said men should tone down their toxic masculinity.
or, gillette opened a new marketing campaign with an attack on men. Very soon the SJW's are going to be saying that the "MRAs started it" and other such crap. You can see about that a self proclaimed SJW is saying how men started the attack on wonder woman when it was wonder womans marketing department opening with an attack on men.
Social Justice Fools are Corporate tools
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If you think it's an attack on men then you must have a really fucking low opinion of men. Why do you hate us so much?
We're not actually all raging arseholes you know.
The ad explicitly implied most men harass (Score:4, Interesting)
The ad said directly that "some" men were OK. That implies the rest, or majority, are not... how is that not an attack on men generally?
The whole ad had a condescending tone of an educational film you were forced to watch in school. Even ignoring that aspect though, clearly the ad is claiming most men harass women, which is simply not the case.
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the recent Gillette commercial where the company said men should tone down their toxic masculinity. Here is a great example. Because the reviewer wrote something which didn't effusively glow about a how ripped Momoa was, about how manly he looked, about how his character portrayed all that is manly (based on the above blurb it seemed the character did not do that), the "men" came out in droves to criticize, belittle and of course, threaten the person who gave their honest opinion.
It's almost as if Gillette was sending out a not so subtle message about reality.
Here's a little video based on the Gillete video for your perusal - I hope you'll comment on it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
We live in a funny world, where women are pure, honest and upstanding, and it is just, right, and fair to stereotype males - a level of prejudice that would make the Grand Dragon of the KuKlux Klan blush.
We're probably never going to eliminate these toxic males any more than we are going to eliminate toxic females. Especially since it is social suicide to even admit that th
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As with most good satire, there's a strong kernel of truth at the heart of it. Have a read (It's called "Protocol" by M.M Holt).
There are some definite laughs in there, but I really, heartily wouldn't recommend it if you take your identity politics seriously.
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"Toxic male plays whattabout toxic females as a distraction from fixing their INCEL status, news at 11"
Whataboutism is when you try to cast the other side as hypocritical. This video merely shows that toxicity is not limited to men.