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'Matrix 4' Officially a Go With Keanu Reeves, Carrie-Anne Moss (variety.com) 208

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Lana Wachowski is set to write and direct a fourth film set in the world of "The Matrix," with Keanu Reeves and Carrie-Anne Moss reprising their roles as Neo and Trinity, respectively. Variety reports: Warner Bros. Pictures and Village Roadshow Pictures will produce and globally distribute the film. In addition to Wachowski, the script was also written by Aleksandar Hemon and David Mitchell. Wachowski is also producing with Grant Hill. Sources say the film is eyed to begin production at the top of 2020. Warner Bros. has been trying for the last of couple years to find a way to get back into "The Matrix" universe, but a hold-up over producing rights slowed the project down. Over the past couple of months, the studio saw an opportunity to ramp up development, with Reeves boasting a strong summer that included box office hits "John Wick 3"; and "Toy Story 4" and a script from Wachowski that drummed up excitement. Plot details are currently unknown, as is how the role of Morpheus will be handled, originally played by Laurence Fishburne. Some sources say the role may be recast for a younger take. Further reading: Was 'The Matrix' Part of Cinema's Last Gear Year?
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  • Whoa (Score:5, Funny)

    by Quakeulf ( 2650167 ) on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @06:52PM (#59107428)
    Whoa

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by KiloByte ( 825081 )

      Yeah, that's my reaction as well. Celebrity gossip is a new low for Slashdot.

    • The real question, is it going to be good? The only one I liked was the first movie, have all three on DVD but 2 & 3 are unopened.

      • Parts 2 and 3 were utter, utter trash. I'd go for a remake of those two, honestly

      • The real question, is it going to be good?

        I don't know, I think the real question is 'Just how bad is it going to be?' I'd love it for my cynicism to prove unjustified, but I'm not holding my breath. The first is a masterpiece, the other two, ehh, I barely remember what happened.

      • The real question, is it going to be good? The only one I liked was the first movie, have all three on DVD but 2 & 3 are unopened.

        How do you know you don't like them?

        I mean they are aren't terrible. I think that can be a complement sometimes.

    • Yes, like Whoa girl! WHOOOOAAA!, as in the command to stop a horse before it jumps off a cliff.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by Cito ( 1725214 )

      I thought Neo sacrificed himself, sorta like symbolizing a "Christ figure" and he was dead at end of 3rd one. Hollywood favorite plot device I guess "retcon". Hehe

  • Please don't (Score:5, Insightful)

    by TimothyHollins ( 4720957 ) on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @06:54PM (#59107432)

    This seems like an unfortunate effect of the current "safe" cinema trend. I can't imagine anyone asking for a continuation of the Matrix story, it concluded decisively with Matrix 3. The last movie already opened up certain arcs (Keanu's superpowers in the real world) that should never have been considered, and are best left buried.

    I fear this will only bring tar on the original series.

    • Re:Please don't (Score:5, Interesting)

      by roc97007 ( 608802 ) on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @06:59PM (#59107454) Journal

      Personally, I'd like to see a sequel to The Matrix that ignored 2 and 3.

      • Re:Please don't (Score:5, Interesting)

        by Rick Schumann ( 4662797 ) on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @07:22PM (#59107516) Journal
        You know, you more or less could do that. It would be in effect an 'alternate timeline', because as you'll recall the 'cumulative error' in the equation that represents The Matrix itself meant it needed resetting from time to time, so it's entirely plausible that there would be multiple instances of Mister Anderson/Neo and at least analogues of all the other main characters (including Agent Smith). The major constants in this would be The Oracle and The Architect.

      • Considering both Keanu Reeves and Carrie Anne Moss' characters were both dead by the end of the third movie they're going to have to. Or occur sometime prior to 3.

        The second movie wasn't bad as an action movie, it just didn't have as good of a story as the first movie. The bullet time effect wasn't as big a deal either. Plus the concept of the first movie was pretty cerebral for a Hollywood movie at the time. Which made it shocking to the typical movie goer. From the advertising I figured it was going to b

        • it just didn't have as good of a story as the first movie.

          Note that the first movie didn't have a good story either.
          It was an introduction to a world, and that's what made it great.

          Once the world was introduced, it was harder to come up with things to fill it.

          • Once the world was introduced, it was harder to come up with things to fill it.

            I'm not sure I agree, the Animatrix stuff was pretty good.

            They had a great world that had a lot of amazing possibility they just chose a story path most people didn't enjoy.

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by _merlin ( 160982 )

          And the CGI was not up to the goofiness of the Neo Smith fight.

          That fight felt like a straight-out copy of the Goku/Buu fight from Dragon Ball Z. By that point, DBZ had been getting drawn-out and overly dramatic for years. It looked even more ridiculous seeing it done with "serious" CGI in Revolutions.

        • The fact that he could control the machines meant he was still in the Matrix. Just another level of the simulation. That's your story, right there.

          • When I first saw Reloaded in the theater I thought the next movie would reveal that what they thought was the real world was just another simulation, or a firewall to the real world. Which would have made the Matrix a simulation within a simulation. That would have also explained how Smith could possess someone in the "real" world. I was expecting Revolutions to be something like what Inception was years later. Since no one knew how well the Natrix was going to do, there was never any plan to make more. So

      • Personally, I would like a sequel for The Matrix that ignored the Wachowski's

      • Amen

      • Matrix 3 Defines the Tragedy (Score:5, Insightful)

        by bill_mcgonigle ( 4333 ) * on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @11:05PM (#59107966) Homepage Journal

        Personally, I'd like to see a sequel to The Matrix that ignored 2 and 3.

        2 and 3 were painful, granted. But the story arc was important.

        *** SPOILERS FOR 15 YEAR OLD MOVIE ***

        At the end of 3, Neo turns magical and gets powers in the outside world to integrate with the Machines. He's The One, right?

        Nope. The outside world was just another layer of simulation. Nobody has magic in the real world. It's cold and materialistic.

        The outside world was constructed by the machines as a means of control for those who could not accept the Matrix world living. It was a Matrix outside of the Matrix. The classic motif of waking up from a dream and then waking up again.

        But, why, why would this happen to Neo, our Hero? Because he made the mistake of accepting Morpheus's choice - red pill or blue pill. He chose red. He chose to leave the inner matrix. Morpheus didn't know any better either.

        Why was that a mistake? Because he let his future be determined by two choices that somebody else made for him. He didn't invent his own future, he chose from among the predefined choices. At that point, he was unable to escape from the Matrix.

        Make your future what you want it to be - don't go down a path that somebody else has laid out for you.

        Oh, and don't forget to vote - red or blue, it doesn't matter, just choose one.

        • Re: (Score:3)

          by Meneth ( 872868 )
          Vote green. ;)

        • If they integrated wireless into his body, it wouldn't be magical. Not saying there aren't more levels to the simulation but there are other viable possibilities.

        • Re:Matrix 3 Defines the Tragedy (Score:4, Interesting)

          by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) on Wednesday August 21, 2019 @09:12AM (#59108852) Homepage Journal

          I'd go in a different direction.

          After Matrix 3 it's not clear what happened to all the people still in the pods. Were they killed when Agent Smith replaced them? No, they are still there, asleep and waiting for the Matrix to reboot.

          But the people of Zion don't want to take them up necessarily. The world is a mess, the surface barely habitable. There just aren't the resources for millions, maybe billions of people to live in the real world. So they have to build a new Matrix, and have to decide if they are going to tell everyone in it that it's all fake but better than the real world, and try to deal with the consequences of that. If it's not real people will demand it be modified into a paradise for them, but we know that didn't work in the past.

          Neo is now the big bad, forcing everyone to live in that 90s era world while the real one is slowly rebuilt. He's been there, he's struggled with the concept of free will and choice, and he thinks this is the way it has to be. Trinity is the leader of the resistance, after Neo recreated her within the Matrix. That means she has no physical body, she is like the Agents, a computer program.

          Haven't quite figured out the twist ending yet.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by antdude ( 79039 )

        Tha Matrix Sequels Rebooted.

    • They both get on a bus which is rigged to detonate the matrix if they slow down and they must find a way to work together. Hilarity Ensues.

    • There is the fan theory that the real world is actually just a second layer of the Matrix for people who reject the primary layer, so Neo's powers working there would make sense if they want to pull a twist and say that no one ever really left the Matrix in the first place. That part could be salvaged.

      Either that or they go with the 'Neo has wifi' theory, which IIRC was the official explanation.

    • This seems like an unfortunate effect of the current "safe" cinema trend. I can't imagine anyone asking for a continuation of the Matrix story, it concluded decisively with Matrix 3. The last movie already opened up certain arcs (Keanu's superpowers in the real world) that should never have been considered, and are best left buried.

      I fear this will only bring tar on the original series.

      If you can't imagine an interesting continuation or side-story set in the Matrix universe, you have an underdeveloped imagination. Regardless of if you liked the second or third movies, it's a rich storytelling setting.

    • The end of the first movie, where Neo got Superman-level powers, trivialized most of the potential for in-Matrix drama in the sequels.

      The Animatrix was a good successor to the first movie, though not a sequel, and the third movie did well by moving out of the Matrix and looking at everything else. Albeit, the third movie was pretty different and not everyone liked it for that reason... and probably for other reasons... the climax was a little odd. The second movie was the black sheep.

      There's always ro

    • This seems like an unfortunate effect of the current "safe" cinema trend.

      Yeah maybe they'll go all SJW and make a film about how identity isn't how you look but comes from within and put in weird androgynous characters to mess with the concepts of gender.

  • Finally, a sequal (Score:5, Insightful)

    by crgrace ( 220738 ) on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @06:54PM (#59107434)

    It's a shame they never made a sequel. The first film in 2000 was so good.

    All jokes aside, The Matrix 2 was so awful I haven't seen the Matrix 3 yet. May never.

    At this point I would almost prefer a reboot to another sequel. The ending of the first movie seemed to preclude a sequel (he could dodge bullets and fly) but they did it anyway...

    • The Revolutions was passable... It just got trapped in the build-ups from the previous movies with seemingly nowhere to go but all out.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by Ranbot ( 2648297 )

      ...The first film in 2000 was so good...The Matrix 2 was so awful I haven't seen the Matrix 3 yet. May never....

      Agreed. I also stopped after Matrix 2 and I'm in no mood to get caught up in a trainwreck series for another installment. Unless a new Matrix has absolutely glowing reviews I'll probably pass.

    • > It's a shame they never made a sequel.

      Yup, damn shame. /Oblg. xkcd 566 [xkcd.com]

      > The ending of the first movie seemed to preclude a sequel (he could dodge bullets and fly) but they did it anyway...

      Yeah that was a real squandered opportunity. Especially with what Neo says:

      Neo: I came here to tell how it's going to begin. I'm going to hang up this phone, and then show these people what you don't want them to see. I'm going to show them a world without you. A world without rules or controls, borders or boundari

    • Matrix Reloaded was ok. Maybe a 5 out of 10.

      Revolutions was really dumb. The Matrix isn't even really in it until the very end.

    • Re:Finally, a sequal (Score:4, Funny)

      by novakyu ( 636495 ) <novakyu@novakyu.net> on Wednesday August 21, 2019 @12:39AM (#59108146) Homepage

      Matrix 3 was O.K. I thought the Ewoks were a little overdone, but hey, everyone loves a good party and closure.

    • The ending of the first movie ruined the possibility for drama within the matrix, but they still had a lot of potential outside of the matrix. That's why the third movie worked better than the second: very little of it happened in the matrix.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by antdude ( 79039 )

      You mean 1999, not Y2K. :P Sequel should be titled Matrix's Sequels: Rebooted.

  • Whut??? (Score:3)

    by mark-t ( 151149 ) <markt.nerdflat@com> on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @06:59PM (#59107456) Journal

    While yeah, I agree that Reeves and Moss are must haves, so is Fishburne, IMO. You need all of those three, for sure. Anything else and it just isn't the Matrix in my view... or certainly not one I'll be interested in seeing in the theater.

    Was there some sort of dispute involving Fishburne with the last film or something that I never heard about that they are even *considering* recasting the role?

  • The Plot (Score:5, Funny)

    by SuperKendall ( 25149 ) on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @07:00PM (#59107462)

    Calling it now, plot is that Earth is invaded by aliens and the humans and the Matrix machines have to work together to fight them off, Reeves and Moss get to ride those machine squid things like the flying dog from Never Ending Story.

    Final battle takes place in an alien supercomputer after Agent Smith is injected via an Independence Day style infiltration of the mothership.

    • Jeez! That sounds worse than Matrix: Revolutions.

    • Re:The Plot (Score:5, Funny)

      by isj ( 453011 ) on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @07:35PM (#59107552) Homepage

      And Agent Smith escapes to safety riding Smaug. Fly time: approximately 3 movies.

    • Wasn't that the plot of Saints Row 4?

    • Calling it now, plot is that Earth is invaded by aliens and the humans and the Matrix machines have to work together to fight them off, Reeves and Moss get to ride those machine squid things like the flying dog from Never Ending Story.

      Final battle takes place in an alien supercomputer after Agent Smith is injected via an Independence Day style infiltration of the mothership.

      Sounds about right.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by Cito ( 1725214 )

      Saints Row 4 rocked!

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by indytx ( 825419 )

      Calling it now, plot is that Earth is invaded by aliens and the humans and the Matrix machines have to work together to fight them off, Reeves and Moss get to ride those machine squid things like the flying dog from Never Ending Story.

      Final battle takes place in an alien supercomputer after Agent Smith is injected via an Independence Day style infiltration of the mothership.

      You, sir, must have hacked the producers' computers! Expect cease and desist letter in 3 . . . 2 . . . 1 . . .

  • The first Matrix was pretty decent, especially if you've never studied any basic Western Philosophy, so the question of "What is reality?" was a brand new idea to you. Otherwise, it was just a Gap commercial with guns and really bad clothes. Two and three, though...

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by crgrace ( 220738 )

      I thought it was super derivative, sure, but a hell of a lot of fun. The gun fight in the office building lobby (I need guns. Lots of guns) was epic and ranks right up there with The Crow and Heat for the best gun fights of that era (mid 90s - millennium).

      The bank robbery gunfight in Heat was so amazing it actually inspired a real life bank robbery in LA a couple years later (which didn't go well for the robbers).

      • (which didn't go well for the robbers).

        Statistically speaking , it usually doesn't.

      • I loved watching the gun fight scene in the lobby until I got a surround sound system. The audio was terrible on the version I had. There were sounds that should have been coming from the back speakers but were coming from the front and it made watching that scene very disorienting. For example, it would show Neo running behind the columns so from that perspective the guards are behind you shooting at Neo. But the sound of gunfire is coming from the front.

        It was the only movie that I noticed it on so I didn

    • Re:Oh, God, no. (Score:4, Interesting)

      by Ranbot ( 2648297 ) on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @07:40PM (#59107574)

      ...especially if you've never studied any basic Western Philosophy, so the question of "What is reality?" was a brand new idea to you....

      To be fair, that would describe most people.

    • Re:Oh, God, no. (Score:4, Informative)

      by mlyle ( 148697 ) on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @08:22PM (#59107656)

      It was visually beautiful.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by tsqr ( 808554 )

        It was visually beautiful.

        So was Aquaman. Still not worth watching.

        • So was Aquaman. Still not worth watching.

          And why was Aquaman not worth watching? Interesting story, compelling characters with proper motivations, nice directing, good art style, good acting. All around a well rounded movie in all departments including the story as well.

    • if you've never studied any basic Western Philosophy, so the question of "What is reality?"

      Worth mentioning this is basic eastern philosophy, too. "I dreamed I was a butterfly....when I awoke, I didn't know if I was a butterfly dreaming I was a human, or a human that had dreamt I was a butterfly." -Chuangzi

    • The first Matrix was pretty decent, especially if you've never studied any basic Western Philosophy, so the question of "What is reality?" was a brand new idea to you. Otherwise, it was just a Gap commercial with guns and really bad clothes. Two and three, though...

      Nah it was pretty good anyway. And it was more than "what is reality". It also had a lot of "what is identity", something clearly close to the directors hearts. And it pushed the bar on special effects and had some iconic action sequences. And ha

  • I disagree with all Matrix haters - the trilogy is epicly deep; you just don't want to get it. Here's a hint; transition...

    Wow now Matrix 4 - can't freaking wait!

    • Wish we could pay the bills with your enthusiasm. A movie budget us serious business and without mainstream appeal a big film like this is going to be a financial disaster.

      • Wish we could pay the bills with your enthusiasm. A movie budget us serious business and without mainstream appeal a big film like this is going to be a financial disaster.

        Who is "we"? Why do you give a shit? Are you heavy in WB stock?

        • Who is "we"? Why do you give a shit? Are you heavy in WB stock?

          I pay a lot of bills, in principle I'd like to pay some of them with some positive thinking.

  • There is "some" story before the Matrix it seems like. Although it would be intellectually sloppy to cast Keanu Reeves without destroying "Mr. Anderson's" cluelessness in the first episode.

  • Matrix 4? (Score:3, Funny)

    by enriquevagu ( 1026480 ) on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @07:15PM (#59107502)

    Matrix 4? I don't understand. There was only Matrix 1. Matrix 2 & 3 NEVER existed.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by taustin ( 171655 )

      Yeah, they were going to make two more, but they were too busy making a couple of crap movies instead. Sorta like Indian Jones skipped 2 and went straight to 3, because they were making some piece of crap called "The Temple of Dumb."

    • Re:Matrix 4? (Score:5, Funny)

      by turp182 ( 1020263 ) on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @07:52PM (#59107604) Journal

      The Matrix 2 and 3 existed in a prior version of the Matrix, but they had to reboot everything because it didn't work out and ruined everyone's prior memories.

      This is actually a third installment of Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure with Mr. Reeves and Mrs. Moss as the main characters; who the hell is Alex Winter (he was removed in a prior version of the Matrix)?

      Anyway, the simulation is stable, for now.

      • Some people are still not mentally stable (Score:5, Insightful)

        by Malays Bowman ( 5436572 ) on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @08:41PM (#59107686)

        Yes, I know people think it's fun to speculate "we are living in a computer program", and that it's glitching out or whatever.

          However, I had to deal with people who have severe mental disabilities and illnesses, and when they get these ideas in their head, they obsess over it to the point of madness. One person I personally knew snapped and ended up pulling a knife on somebody just a few months ago. She was obsessing over the content of The Matrix right before she flaked out.

          This is how religion gets started, with people coming up with fairy tales and then shifting through "what if it really is..." before landing at "That explains everything! Now I know it's the TRUTH!", and we all know how well that turned out for the world. :\

        • No joke at all here.

          I have a friend (of 20+ years) whose son is in jail (no bail) on first degree murder charges. It has ruined her life, it's a rural area, everyone knows and judges. He probably fired the gun (no one can talk prior to the trial), and the body was in his basement for two days before a third party found it. At around 30 years old he will probably never step out of a prison for anything other than transfer.

          And the last 2 Matrix movies sucked.

          I know a lot about mental illness, from experien

        • I think it is a little more basic than that. The human brain looks for patterns in everything. This simplifies the massive amount of incoming data into simpler mental constructs. In a similar manner, the human mind wants to find patterns to explain the complex interactions in the universe and the coincidences the mind thinks it sees. I think this is what leads to many beliefs (religious or otherwise, ie anti-vaxxers).

          I don't know if it is made worse by my dyslexia, or I'm just like anyone else, but if I

  • The Animatrix is the best Matrix (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Koen Lefever ( 2543028 ) on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @07:33PM (#59107544)
    The Animatrix [wikipedia.org] is the best Matrix
    • The rarely hear/see anyone discuss the Animatrix. I really enjoyed it, personally. All very different and interesting.
      My favorite at the time of viewing was the haunted house, but the whole thing was really good.

      • Very simply - Action movies sell. Science Fiction and Fantasy movies do not. Take a look at Star Trek, Avengers, and Star Wars. The modern incarnations are action movies. Space battles, sword fights, etc.

        The Animatrix was a Science Fiction movie. And, in the theme of many great science fiction movies, it pretty much bombed. It joins the ranks of great Sci-Fi like Primer, Timecrimes, Contact, Ex Machina, and eXistenZ.

  • It's the height of the War against the secret agents within the matrix, and famous archaeologist^W programmer Neo (Keanu Reeves), returning from his latest adventure, finds out his job at Marshall College is in jeopardy. He meets Mutt (Shia La Beouf), a young man who wants Neo to help him find the legendary Crystal Skull of Akator, and the pair set out for Peru. However, deadly agent Irina Spalko (Cate Blanchett) is searching for the powerful artifact, too, because the AI believes it can help them conquer t

  • Shouldn't they make parts 2 and 3 before moving onto part 4? What kind of Star Wars bullshit is this?

  • Do they learn nothing? Who knows, they may be able to be the first to make "Movie IV" or what ever it is worthy... but I'm not holding my breath.
    RottenTomatoes will guide my wallet when the time comes...

  • Designed by committee at the behest of accountants (Score:3)

    by guacamole ( 24270 ) on Wednesday August 21, 2019 @01:29AM (#59108214)

    This is going to be a great movie. What could possibly go wrong?

  • If it'll be as good as was Jason Bourne 4, no thanks, and there was no Back to the Future 4 for a reason! My ultimate question is: do they want to do this because 1) Money? 2) Younger people might not have seen the 1st, do they need some publicity (i.e. Money)? 3) The 2nd and 3rd matrices were so crappy that they feel the need to end the series with something amazing. Hint: not 3)

  • My Reality (Score:3)

    by jwhyche ( 6192 ) on Wednesday August 21, 2019 @10:25AM (#59109032) Homepage

    No it isn't. I'm denying this will exist in my reality and the Matrix films will end at 3. Just like there is a Star Trek 1, 2, 3, 4, and 6 in my reality.

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