The Ultimate Star Trek Collection 414
roelbj writes "For those Star Trek fans wondering what to ask for this Christmas, you may wish to consider The Ultimate Star Trek Collection to be released on November 15. For just (cough) $2499.99, you'll get 212, count them, 212 DVDs with everything ever produced under the name, including all seasons of all five telvision series as well as the ten feature films. Before loading up your disc changer and hitting play, remember to get up once in a while."
The Animated Series!? (Score:5, Interesting)
What makes a movie worth watching over again? (Score:5, Interesting)
What makes owning this set of dvds and, presumably, rewatching the material worthwhile?
The only movies I've watched repeatedly are Casablanca, Apocalypse Now and to a lesser extent Alien and Blade Runner, but I've no idea why I can watch Casablanca and Apocalpse Now over and over. I know the material very nearly by heart, but have no idea what the mechanism is that hooks me in.
Re:The Animated Series!? (Score:2, Interesting)
referal fee (Score:5, Interesting)
Just over three weeks long (Score:5, Interesting)
Here's the tally, this doesn't include any special features, commentaries, or otherwise useless filler:
ST TOS:
47 mins, 79 eps, 22 discs, 3,713min = 2days 13hrs 53mins
ST TNG:
45 mins, 178 eps, 48 discs, 8,010min = 5days 13hrs 30mins
ST DS9:
45 mins, 176 eps, 48 discs, 7,920min = 5days 12hrs
ST Voyager:
45 mins, 172 eps, 47 discs, 7,740min = 5days 9hrs
ST Enterprise:
42 mins, 98 eps, 27 discs, 4,116min = 2days 20hrs 36mins
The Motion Picture (Directors Cut): 136mins 2 discs
The Wrath of Kahn (Directors Cut): 116mins 2 discs
III: The search for spock: 105mins 2 discs
IV: The Voyage Home: 119mins 2 discs
V: The Final Frontier: 107mins 2 discs
VI: The Undiscovered Contry: 113mins 2 discs
Generations: 118mins 2 discs
First Contact: 106mins 2 discs
Insurrection: 103mins 2 discs
Nemesis: 116mins 2 discs
Grand Total (Minus Commentaries, deleted scenes, additional features)
212 Discs
32,638 minutes
3wks 1day 15hrs 58mins
References:
Amazon.com product info [amazon.com]
IMDB Star Trek search [imdb.com]
Re:Was the link necessary? (Score:1, Interesting)
Unless the US is suddenly the only place where people have "metabolic disorders" or "catch obesity" or obestity is a "disease" then the culture of the fat people is to blame, not their bodies.
Laziness and lack of personal responsibility, and little more.
200+ dvds = a lot of space... screw that, use HD (Score:3, Interesting)
One 600giger will take care of it, though a lof of CPU time to convert though, but more portable
than 3 folders of 80 DVDs each.
Re:No way (Score:3, Interesting)
at ahem, NORMAL pricing...
28 total seasons @ 49.95
10 feature films @ 19.95
comes to a grand total of: 1598.10
so they've over priced it by 900 bucks. they must still be trying to recoup losses from enterprise or something. if it (upn) wasn't on a pissy little low-power uhf around here, i would probably have watched it (reception lousy even on digicable). (btw, the enterprise dvd sets must be selling well if startrek.com only had 10 copies to give away in a recent promotion http://www.startrek.com/custom/exclude/giveaways/
a more fan-friendly company might even discount the whole set a bit over separate prices to encourage sales of it, otherwise people would just purchase the individual items periodically as sort of a payment plan to getting the whole set. 20 percent off "my" total would be about half what amazon's charging.
the movies by themselves at amazon (se versions) is 122. which means at 2500 you're paying 85 for each and every season. a very generous discount from tptb, don't ya think? when mainstream tv series sell for 35-50 a season and have been spotted at 20 or less on sale lately.
considering the cost to duplicate, package and distribute, they could sell for 499 and still be in the black. the star trek empire has already paid for itself many times over (and no wonder with the prices they charge).. so why not do something crazy like deep discounts on an "ultimate collection" for a holiday season.. star trek could even end up being more popular than elmo dolls instead of being something only a google shareholder can afford.
they could even do it on hd-dvd or bluray instead and bundle a player. all for 399. that'd be one way to really get the new players on the market real quick. if this could get rolling and out the door before new format players hit the general market, whatever format they pick could very easily wind up being the "winner". even if priced at a loss, the future revenue for the hardware makers (& studios themselves by folks buying 2nd, 3rd, or even 4th formats of other movies they already have) over the next 20 years is huge and more than enough to subsidize a promo like this.
Also (Score:4, Interesting)
Over two thousand dollars and they can't throw in a second copy of the best Trek film evar? What a swindle.
Man, I think the first Slashdot post I ever made was a complaint that the two-disc set didn't include the original release. What were they thinking? Extended is great. Replacing certain scenes - that I thought were great - with alternate takes, and then not including both versions a la the Terminator 2 DVD, that's lame.
Re:Just over three weeks long (Score:3, Interesting)
The sad thing, though, is:
TOS: 47 min
TNG, DS9, Voy: 45 min
Enterprise: 42 min
... those ad breaks just get longer and longer, huh?
Re:worth it? (Score:2, Interesting)
Consumers are smart. They know this data isn't going anywhere, it'll be around for as long as they are (and then some). They'll hold out for as long as it takes to get a decent price before forking out any cash. Personally I don't think I'd consider paying much more than about $500 for this.
Hollywood needs to provide better and cheapers ways of providing its content to consumers, if they don't they'll end up going the same way as the Music Industry. Whilst they don't immediately face the threat the music industry does (dvd quality video with 5.1 sound doesn't come down the wire that quick) eventually they will face it. Hopefully by that time (for their own sake) they'll think my offer is quite generous.
Re:Validity? (Score:3, Interesting)
Romulans were officially known to Starfleet during TOS "Balance of Terror", although the Vulcans and Romulans had been engaged in minor disputes and actions for a long time before that, some of which were known to other races and Starfleet... the Vulcans hid the existance of Romans by shrugging them off as radical Vulcan splinter factions, although at least some non-Vulcan individuals knew of them.
Klingons look like they do in TNG. During TOS they were Klingon-Human hybrids (well, technically Klingon-Engineered-human hybrids) due to an accident involving theft of military genetic enginering technology left over from the Terran Eugenics Wars. See Enterprise season 4.
Stardates are a way of creating a system of time that accounts for differences in relativity. As a result they vary (and they vary in speed) depending on where you are in the galactic plane. The system was revised between TOS and TNG, at the same time pulsed warp made it necessary to revise the warp factor (to a logarithmic scale with 10 being infinite speed).
There are some much nicer places of contradiction. Those are pretty well established.
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Evan
Re:No way (Score:1, Interesting)
Yes, that is the unfortunate result of the purely capitalist mindset. Instead of being "How much can I satisfy the needs of society in which I am a member while still making a comfortable wage?" it's "How much can I squeeze out of every sucker so I can buy a third boat?".
Re:Was the link necessary? (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Was the link necessary? (Score:3, Interesting)
Now, is that a serious matter? Yes! Do I feel bad for people who are in that shape? HELL YES! Is it ok to laugh about it? YES!
The reason why we joke about this is because it does several things...it helps us feel better about ourselves and all of the myriad of serious problems we all have going on in our lives...it encourages us to AVOID the kind of behavior that can potentially lead to being in this situation...and it stops us from getting depressed and angry about every single horrible problem in the world, because frankly if we did, we'd probably kill ourselves.
If people don't like what was posted, avoid it. Don't push your morals onto the rest of us though.
Re:No way (Score:3, Interesting)
That is where the sweet point is to be found.