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P2P Music Downloads At All-Time Low 369 369

RedEaredSlider writes "According to research group NPD Group, the shuttering of Limewire's music file sharing service has led to a similar decline in the usage of such services throughout the US. The number has gone from a high of 16 percent in the fourth quarter of 2007 to just nine percent in the fourth quarter of 2010, right after Limewire shut down its file-sharing services due to a court order, when a federal judge sided with the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA)."
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P2P Music Downloads At All-Time Low

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  • Crappy Music (Score:5, Insightful)

    by denshao2 (1515775) on Thursday March 24, 2011 @10:59AM (#35598586) Homepage Journal
    There isn't much left to download.
  • And... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by redemtionboy (890616) on Thursday March 24, 2011 @11:00AM (#35598592)

    Music sales suddenly skyrocket right? Right?? Oh, they're still abysmal. Never mind then.

  • shitty statistics (Score:5, Insightful)

    by fwice (841569) on Thursday March 24, 2011 @11:03AM (#35598628)

    The number has gone from a high of 16 percent in the fourth quarter of 2007 to just nine percent in the fourth quarter of 2010

    16% of what? the article doesn't mention.

    16% of the population? 16% of what it used to be?

  • by Itesh (1901146) on Thursday March 24, 2011 @11:03AM (#35598634)
    Or are services like Pandora, Spotify, and even iTunes giving the consumers what they want at a price they want and thus helping to drive pirating down?
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 24, 2011 @11:03AM (#35598638)
    Ugh, both of you ACs, how can you listen to such terrible quality???
  • All time low? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by jolyonr (560227) on Thursday March 24, 2011 @11:04AM (#35598648) Homepage

    You mean lower than they were in, say, 1776?

  • by MickyTheIdiot (1032226) on Thursday March 24, 2011 @11:07AM (#35598676) Homepage Journal

    I wish I had mod points because this is so on target.

    This is how the music business survived for decades. First of all it was so very expensive to have vinyl pressers (you notice people still did bootlegs though) and then with cassettes the quality loss was so bad it was better to buy new. If you give people a product that is better and easier than using B.T. or Limewire or whatever they WILL pay for it.

    All the RIAA innovates on though is how to infuriate and sue people...

  • by Gabrosin (1688194) on Thursday March 24, 2011 @11:10AM (#35598724)

    This. Streaming services make it a lot easier to hear the music you want whenever you want without having to download OR pay for it. I'm partial to Grooveshark myself, but Pandora's pretty good too.

  • by MickyTheIdiot (1032226) on Thursday March 24, 2011 @11:10AM (#35598728) Homepage Journal

    This is also true... have you ever tried to properly license a song for a small product? They ask for thousands of dollars and treat you as if you're going to be making money on the project. They don't even like to call you back unless you're some super-huge corporation.

    Just put in a system that allows you to pay $20 to license a song for a personal-use video, youtube, whatever and people will pay that as well. In terms of licensing where someone is using a song for some creative work they generally want to stay within the law but when the only option that someone gives them to license a song is thousands of dollars they *can't* stay within the law without emptying their wallets completely.

  • by smelch (1988698) on Thursday March 24, 2011 @11:19AM (#35598836)
    Yeah I came in here to say the same thing. 16% was the high in 2007, now its down to 9% so it can't be "of what it used to be"... somehow I doubt thats total population in the United States either, I would have expected it to be lower than that with all the old people. Mostly though I feel like any of these statistics have to be bullshit numbers to begin with. They may reflect what they measured, but I don't think anybody could accurately measure all P2P traffic of illegal songs and not snare other kinds of P2P and miss a huge chunk of song sharing as well.
  • by Anthony Mouse (1927662) on Thursday March 24, 2011 @11:36AM (#35599030)

    There's no way this number is true. I bet it was paid for by the RIAA's lawyers so they can say, "See! The lawsuits are working!!!"

    That or they're just measuring it wrong because they're idiots. The article is highly unclear -- 16% of what? If people start using sneakernet and private trackers that they don't have access to measure, did the amount of sharing go down? Or did it go up because downloading 1TB of music from a private tracker once and then passing it around a school or an office on an external hard drive is way more efficient than sucking it through the straw of US broadband a thousand different times?

  • by drinkypoo (153816) <> on Thursday March 24, 2011 @11:37AM (#35599036) Homepage Journal

    You don't really want original music. You want music that sounds like something else you like.

    There is no reason why a mix of two songs that suck can't be fantastic. I don't like to eat cabbage or lactobacillus but I love sauerkraut. "Fusion cuisine" is usually an excuse for some stupid food concept that is being pushed on you but once in a while it results in nirvana, like the potato, pesto, and garlic pizza at Escape from NY. Potato on a pizza sounds stupid until you eat it. (Of course, the stuff is also a poster child for thisiswhyyourefat...)

    Anyway I'm not into Jay-Z and the number of Beatles songs I think are worth a crap can be counted on one hand but DJ Danger Mouse's Grey Album is one of the best things I've ever heard. So basically I think you are being ridiculous.

  • by tom229 (1640685) on Thursday March 24, 2011 @11:39AM (#35599060)
    I agree. Correlation doesnt equal causation. It seems more likely that the market finally giving people want they want through services like grooveshark and itunes is the cause. Encforcing draconian bullshit on the worst p2p service available is ancillary.
  • by dkleinsc (563838) on Thursday March 24, 2011 @12:49PM (#35600052) Homepage

    (If they were musicians, they would create their own original music)

    That's not really true though. For starters, the line between "original" and "unoriginal" music isn't very clear. Which of these groups is creating original music?
    - The Boston Symphony Orchestra playing Beethoven's Ninth Symphony with a fantastic new interpretation
    - A group playing Beethoven's Ninth Symphony on kazoos
    - A disco group who took Beethoven's Ninth Symphony and rewrote it with a dance beat
    - A DJ who took the BSO's recording of Beethoven's Ninth Symphony and made a great dance beat with it
    - An MC who took the DJ's great dance beat and busted some rhymes to it.
    - A folk singer who goes to some obscure area of Hungary, learns a popular folk song from that area, translates the lyrics, and records and popularizes it in the US
    - A second folk singer who adds 10 new verses to that same folk song

    All of them took a musical legacy, added some twists or nuances to it, and made something new. But in the RIAA's worldview, the DJ, MC, and second folk singer did something thoroughly horrible.

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