Han Solo To Get His Own Star Wars Movie Prequel 227
New submitter alaskana writes: According to Starwars.com, Han Solo will be getting his own movie prequel. The film will purportedly tell the story of a young Han Solo and how he came to be the wily smuggler that shows up in Star Wars: Episode IV A New Hope. The film is set to be directed by Christopher Miller and Phil Lord (of The Lego Movie fame) and written by Lawrence and Jon Kasdan. Get your popcorn and tickets ready, as the movie is set to debut May 25, 2018.
Fuck That! (Score:5, Funny)
Fuck that! I want Jar Jar Binks' background story, and how he came to have the death sentence placed on him by Boss Rugor Nas.
Can you imagine a movie populated completely by Gungans! Meesah think it vewry vewry good!
Re:Fuck That! (Score:5, Insightful)
Can you imagine a movie populated completely by Gungans! Meesah think it vewry vewry good!
You forgot c3po and r2d2, who must be in every movie no matter how hard you have to strain.
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So, wait . . . does this new movie have a line where Han Solo says to Jar Jar, "I am your father" . . . ?
Or is it the other way around, and Jar Jar says to Han Solo, "I am your father" . . . ?
I guess there still are a lot of plot twists and storyline shifts that they can milk out of this franchise.
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Meesa thinking Han movie going to be mooie mooie good! Gonna have meesah and Han fighting all the bad guys!
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Not if you cared to read the canon books.
I, for one, would love to see an entire saga dedicated to the Yuuzhan Vong invasion and subsequent defeat. Now, THAT is an epic string of stories.
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Intresting plot twist: Do they use some "time-travel"-mechanic to explain how Disney can change the past when something was declared as "canon"?
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He who controls the franchise controls its universe!
So, yeah... generally the new owners get to retcon whatever they choose as they produce new canon content.
It's not without precedent. Heck, even the Catholics decided to retcon their religion on multiple occasions by declaring previously canon books as heretical.
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Most of the books were written before Disney bought Lucasfilm and they "were" canon at the time. Maybe shit has changed, I was never interested in the political footwork though so I couldn't care less.
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In the first Han is the father but in the reboot the writer has the tachyon field reversed so Jar Jar is the father.
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A good, a Star Trek-Star Wars mashup. I like the scene where Riker and Han get in a fight over a scantily clad Troi, as Jabba's band plays Born To Be Wild. Admiral Kirk finally wins the day by forcing Jabba's protocol droid into a logic loop that causes its head to explode, bringing down Jabba's palace.
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That may actually be the funniest thing I've read in several months! Bravo, sir, bravo.
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Along with a dozen jabba the hutts arguing about tariffs.
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Personally, I suspect this means we can expect to see Batman make an appearance.
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Well, if they make it a sequel and make the torture scene where he gets disassembled, burned, etc. 90% of the total length, I am all for it...
Re:Fuck That! (Score:5, Funny)
Great, so we end up with Darth Binks.
NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
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"Meesa fin' yoosa lacka fait disturbin!" "Da Emperor he not as forgiving as meesa." "Meesa da masta now!"
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There was already an Ewoks movie, so there's strong precedent and your idea will probably happen at some point.
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Re:Kessel Run (Score:4, Interesting)
The Kessel Run was covered in one of the novels. I am guessing that the novels are no longer canon.
Actually, what IS the story? Supposedly the new movie covers the Solo kids based on what happened in the novels, but the prequals (1-3) totally crapped on the back story of Boba Fett.
I also saw Chewy, but he died in one of the novels too.
What is canon and what isn't?
Re:Kessel Run (Score:5, Interesting)
I suspect that they'll toss out everything and write a new story. That way you don't have to compensate the authors of the books for their ideas. But that's just the cynic in me speaking.
I would be surprised, however, if they didn't at least cover Han meeting Chewie and them doing the Kessel Run (completely rewritten, of course). I wonder if, in his new story, he will have been an officer in the Imperial fleet when he rescued Chewie or if they're going to rewrite that too.
I hope it will be interesting to watch, regardless of what direction they go in.
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The thing I'd worry about is that they'll make him 'nice'. He's supposed to be the kind of guy that shoots first and the kind of guy that only an ex-jedi could sufficiently second-guess to trust. I'll bet they'll make him into someone who's basically a good guy that occasionally slips up with the odd victimless crime (but only because he's desperate).
If he doesn't have to hose out the blood of the previous owners of the millennium falcon at least once in the film, it ain't worth watching ;-)
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In the original back story, Han was an imperial officer who couldn't stand to see a wookie (Chewie) being abused so he freed Chewie and deserted. So there is a core "good guy" in him from earlier in his life. In order to survive as a smuggler, he had to suppress all that.
I do agree that a "nice" Han Solo wouldn't play well in his prequel story, you can't completely cover up the core of who he is either. If they do it right, they can show him with a look of regret as he is driven to do the ruthless things
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I want to believe that the prequels never happened.
Belief... (Score:2)
I'm just happy they never made sequels to The Matrix; I mean, how weird would that have been, right? :)
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it's a shame they never made a sequel to Highlander.
Yes! That too.
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Han shoots first (Score:5, Funny)
[knock, knock, knock on bathroom door]
Young Han: Mom! I'm busy! Go away!
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[Han's mom walks in]
Mom: That's no moon!
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it's a trap!
Re:Han shoots first (Score:5, Funny)
And now you know why his childhood nickname was "Hand Solo".
Question (Score:2)
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Though for some it will feel as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced, I think the Extended Universe is dead in the water. No way Abrams is going to be constrained by what amounts to maybe a small handful of passable SF novels and an overwhelming amount of utter crap.
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Kinda like the movies.
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Will he? Something I liked about Jurassic World is how it ignored the second and third sequels. Something I liked about the most recent Terminator film is that it completely ignored the third and fourth sequels.
The way I'd work it is, anything that happened before "Did you hear that? They shut down the main reactor. We'll be destroyed for sure." may or may not have happened, but we don't talk about it. At all. Ever. Except for maybe an easter egg of JarJar's bones bleaching in the sun.
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Except for maybe an easter egg of JarJar's bones bleaching in the sun.
Or Jar Jar's corpse being served up to Jabba the Hut like a roast pig.
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When Lucas was in charge, he just made up crap on the fly. I don't think with Disney in charge that they're going to be more protective of the lore and story lines than Lucas was.
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The only question is where they'll fit the singing animals in.
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I'm really hoping Disney will put out a series of Star Wars movies that tie together the way the Marvel movies do - that is, they stand on their own (for the most part) but also weave together into a vast universe that builds upon itself. If they do it right, we could enter a golden age for Star Wars fans. Maybe it will finally scrub THE FILMS THAT MUST NOT BE NAMED from our memories.
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Han Solo and the Lost Legacy
Is that relly the title of a Han Solo book? When I read it, it's not the Star Wars theme I hear, but a certain other John Williams soundtrack, to a certain other Lucas/Ford film franchise. This makes me very dubious of the writer.
Too bad they already axed the extended universe... (Score:2)
Because if I recall (though I haven't read it in forever), the previously-official-but-not-anymore Han Solo prequel story was actually a pretty fun story. It wasn't the Thrawn trilogy, but it was still pretty decent, and I would totally support there being a movie adaptation of it: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki... [wikia.com]
But again, not as much as I wanted to see Thrawn on the big screen. Star Wars the no-longer-extended-universe-that-has-no-Timothy-Zahn-in-it-anywhere is dead to me.
Another one not to watch... (Score:3)
A likely sanitized version of Han Solo? No thanks.
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A likely sanitized version of Han Solo? No thanks.
I'd rather kiss a wookie.... Wait a min, maybe THAT's the story?
Re:Another one not to watch... (Score:5, Funny)
If they were smart, they'd have the character just blowing ten or fifteen creatures away before they had a chance to draw.
"Han. You're still alive!"
"I shot first."
Agreed; Chewie was Male... (Score:2)
Nuff said. :)
Uh-oh (Score:5, Funny)
I have a bad feeling about this...
(sorry...)
Where's the Stainless Steel Rat movie? (Score:2)
Come on, somebody make a good movie about a space smuggler. Licensed Star Wars is ruined. Does Disney own all space smugglers yet?
Everything is awesome! (Score:2)
already been done (Score:3, Insightful)
The movie was called "Serenity"
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It was sweet when Leia tore up those reavers with the force, but man, that part where Chewie took a harpoon to the chest...
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (Score:2)
Except rather than make a whole movie about the younger backstory they just made it the beginning of the movie...
Junior!
Oversaturation (Score:2)
None of the Disney Star Wars movies have come out yet, and I already feel sick of them. Why don't they try just one movie first and see how it does?
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Because they paid Lucas the equivalent of the GDP of some small countries. They're going to milk this baby for every penny, and they know those of us of that special generation from about 43 to 55 will pay to see whatever crap they stick a Star Wars logo on. Yes, I admit it, I'm that pathetic.
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As you read their spiels try to remember that the alternative they offer — whether they know it or not — is dreary, inoffensive, publicly funded dreck, with the occasional critically acclaimed outlier involving some grievance or debauchery. The sort of world they would inflict has never produced anything half as great as Star Wars. It can't, by nature.
I offer you BBC as a counter example.
They already did it! (Score:2)
Please don't tell me... (Score:2)
...that Shia LeBeouf is going to play young Han Solo!
Yes! (Score:2)
Old fan (Score:2)
From someone who saw what is now known as "A New Hope" in theaters 4 times in the 70's (not really a brag, that just means I was alive then. The lines were literally around the theaters every showing), this is a frigging great idea. I don't know why it took so long to come up with it, but I'm grateful it didn't happen until after Lucas.
On a side note, whoever's idea it was to make the "department" on this post a quote from Kosh on Babylon-5, 50 points to your house. (Hufflepuff I'm guessing). And may the
Re:Gov-a-mint (Score:5, Funny)
So you're thinking this would be a thinly-veiled allegorical retelling of Ron Paul's life? Maybe it can include a "staffer" writing anti-Wookie rants in Han's newsletter.
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I thought Lucas was now basically just a consultant, and didn't have much involvement in actual story development; sort of a Gene Roddenberry, except he ended the Great Bird of a Galaxy Far Far Away ended up being many times richer than the mere Great Bird of our humble galaxy.
Re:More non-George content? (Score:5, Funny)
Put in more little robots! And I want cutesy creatures here, and here, and here and here and here and here and here. The main character has to grab a fruit with his tongue! Kids love that!
The main character is human, George.
Well, make him something else then. With a funny accent. Kids love that.
Shut up, George.
Re:More non-George content? (Score:5, Funny)
Make more theme worlds, because apparently the universe is populated by jungle worlds, metal worlds, forest worlds, magma worlds, ice worlds and desert worlds.
Re:More non-George content? (Score:5, Insightful)
Point. If Lucas properly understood scale, the entire series could have taken place on one planet.
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If Lucas had been interested in realism, the entire series would've been boring. You want the asteroid chase in a realistic asteroid field where you never see an asteroid the whole time? Several years passing while they try to make it from Hoth to Bespin on sublight engines? Star Wars isn't speculative fiction, it's space opera.
And the Death Star would be what, exactly? (Score:4, Insightful)
The SW universe being too big is not a problem. In fact, its sense of size is one of the biggest things it had going for it, and it is precisely Lucas's unhealthy devotion to self-referential character-recycling smallness that drags things down--the main characters are all laboriously and ridiculously connected/related/cloned so that they are present or connected to all critical characters and all critical plot points. Boba Fett was a neat little background character that developed a strong cult following, so Lucas... decides to make him *the* clone of the mysterious 'clone wars', which is ridiculous from pretty much every single angle except the angle that he gets to prominently include a fan favorite in the prequels.
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> Are you suggesting that, because our particular planet has a lot of diversity (and do I need to point out that pretty much all of the other planets we've discovered are NOT diverse at all?) that all space operas should take place on a single planet?
Nope. I'm suggesting that the trope that you have to go to one human-habitable planet to find ice, and another to find forest, and another to find desert, and another to find lava, is a tired one and doesn't show a lot of imagination.
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But Lucas put multiple theme worlds in each film. Episde IV had two, Episode V had 3, Episode VI had two. I'm trying to remember the prequels, I think Episode I had three, Episode II had three, and I can't even remember how how many Episode III had.
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Lethal Lava Land was the best bit of Ep3
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"I am a protocol droid versed in six million forms of..."
"Fuck that Golden Rod, tell that garbage motivator that I want twelve tons of sewage dropped on Lando's head."
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I was thinking the same thing, those three books by Brian Daly were pretty good although they take place after Han escapes from the mines with Chewie but before episode 4.
My main concern is who are they going to get to play Han, and frankly the idea that Chris Pratt could play either Indiana Jones or Han Solo; that guy is just like Will Ferrell, a dope no matter how you slice it and he doesn't have the chops to play either character convincingly.
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Isn't a parsec a unit of distance and not of time?
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Isn't Jurassic actually the period BEFORE dinosaurs ruled the earth, and therefore the movie should've been called "Cretaceous Park"?
Never underestimate the ability of entertainment people to change facts around if they think it sounds better.
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Yes it is. Which is why everyone makes fun of it. The out of universe explanation is that the guy who wrote that didn't know what he was talking about, and nobody else did either until it was too late to fix it. The (total retcon) in-universe explanation, which is legit in that it is way super cool, even though it was also very obviously a retroactive ass-pull fix, is: the Kessel Run requires you to weave through a giant pile of black holes and other nasties you wouldn't want to hit. Therefore, in order to
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I think "ass-pull fix" is my new favorite term.
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I don't really get it. In the same cantina scene, our fearless retconner George "I Don't A Flying Fuck What Fans Think" Lucas got Greedo to shoot first, but he didn't bother altering a small awkward bit of dialogue. But then again Lucas never met a piece of dialog so horrible that it didn't end up in the final cut.
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For once he was cleverer than we give him credit for:
http://www.imsdb.com/scripts/S... [imsdb.com]
HAN
Fast ship? You've never heard of the
Millennium Falcon?
BEN
Should I have?
HAN
It's the ship that made the Kessel
run in less than twelve parsecs!
Ben reacts to Solo's stupid attempt to impress them with
obvious misinformation.
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Oh god. The whole romance angle in the second prequel was a masterstroke of hackneyed, butchered, gawdawful and outright flat dialog. The first time around I was just too overawed by the awfulness to know what was hitting me, but the second watching was where the full extent of Lucas's incapability of writing decent dialogue.
Even better was Padme's death scene in the final prequel:
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That last scene was horrible on many levels. Here you have Padme - a strong female character - who suddenly decides that she's going to die if she can't have her man. And does. Completely disregarding that she has two babies on the way that need her. Nope. Her man's gone to the Dark Side so it's time for her to die. Every time I think of that scene, I want to rip Jar-Jar's tongue from his mouth and use it to whip Lucas. (Bonus: Without his tongue, perhaps Jar-Jar won't be able to speak.)
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Except he credits the ship for getting it done and not himself.
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What about strong and fast to stand the black holes both gravitational pull and forces on the hull?
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I tend to agree. The Star Wars (And Star Trek) Universe needs to be put to an end.
Star Trek was a reflections of the 1960's and 1970's
Star Wars is a Reflection of the 1970's and 1980's
Star Trek TNG, Was a reflection of the 1980 and 1990's
Star Trek vs TNG, did a decent job modernizing they did it by in essence mostly ignoring the original series (especially after the first season, where it was a bit too much like the original)
But as time went on they kept on building new and new additions and created a unive
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> When they made Star Wars Episodes 1-3 they sucked, because we had to try to implement a modern style to an old film.
Hm. And why did we have to do that?
They sucked for a variety of reasons -- casting, plot, dialog, but they also sucked because there seemed to be a rule that every square inch of screen needed to be squirming with cutesy protoplasm or cutesy robotics. Agreed, the original Star Wars was a 1970's take on 1930's SF serials, but the prequels were... I dunno what. Really expensive self parody, I guess. And not the good kind.
Ignoring all the other things for a minute, a "style" like the original film -- sparse, concise, with callbacks to older serials but without overdoing it, might have been less unpleasant to watch.
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I'm sorry but the talent that came up with 4-6? Just wasn't there anymore.
The talent that made 4-6 was Kasdan, even though he wasn't there for 4. What was the best Indy film? The only one Kasdan was involved in. Kasdan is back, and that might just save the franchise.
Lucas's defence for Crystal Skull was that viewers didn't understand his source material, and that's true, but in a way irrelevant. Lucas grew up reading adventure comics that mixed magic and aliens and mysticism and everything else on a whim -- the legacy of that lives on in Marvel's current cinematic line-up where the god of thunder works alongside a man in a homemade robotic exoskeleton, a WWII hero on steroids and a bloody archer to fight off a menace from another world who have interbred with humans to create an ancient bloodlne of superpowered beings. Head to the comic world and you could even add in a sorcerer and a genetic mutant, then send them all through time to face off against the grandfather of the devil. I like to think of Crystal Skull as the sequel to Temple of Doom. You remember Temple of Doom, right? Using a life-raft as a parachute/sledge combo, a ridiculously twisty mine shaft booby-trapped with an ugly great boulder etc. That wasn't Kasdan -- that was Lucas. What we all rmmber as Indy is Raiders of the lost Ark, where Kasdan really paid homage to the source material while constructing a genuinely good film. Over-the-top Nazis, wisecracks and character interplay, even the scene with the creepy gestapo guy reaching towards the camera after burning his hand -- all pulled straight from pulp comics, and deftly done. Crucially, it kept all the magic and mysticism to the very end, and Jones cynical to the last, so there was some kind of reveal and change. The Last Crusade was a sequel to Raiders, but somewhat formulaic and slightly overplayed. But again, Nazis, and no magic until the end, after facing all sorts of mechanical pseudo-magic.
So I have some hope for the Star Wars sequels. However, I'm not sure about a Han origin story. Han shot first. Han was rehabilitated by Luke and Leia. So Han should be a bastard, but current Hollywood narratives don't work that way. Now there are goodies and baddies.
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The deranged presentation is genius. It takes what would otherwise be a very dry, academic, and accurate dissection of the complete turds that are the three prequel movies and manages to make it entertaining.
Re:GRR (Score:5, Insightful)
Wait
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Every time I watch them, I come up with another reason to loathe them. Mind you, it's been about five years since the last viewing of any Star Wars film, so I'll probably have forgotten half the reasons the prequels stunk so very very badly.
I remember clearly watching The Phantom Menace and realizing the extent of the suckage when C3PO turns out to be Darth Vader's droid. I was still reeling from the midichlorians nonsense, and then that. Of course, by the time pod-racer video game advertisement had taken up most of the second act, I realized that George Lucas wasn't just a greedy bastard, but well and truly had no fucking idea how to make an at least enjoyable film anymore. Two more prequels and the last Indiana Jones movie convinced me that Lucas was done even as an action-adventure director (the latter demonstrated that he had lost even the basic concept of pacing).
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Then why did you keep watching them? I've seen each of the original three once and have no desire to watch them again. I don't find them that good. I last at most 10 minutes into Episode 1 when it was on TV.
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> Bark less. Wag more.
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I disagree. At least for Star Trek. That setting is wide (not to say bland...) enough to allow for any type of story. Heck, they managed to mash a Picard-Die-Hard-Action-flick and a Back-To-The-Future-comedy into a single movie and it worked!
Each ST series had a unique style and tone. TOS with their "monster of the week" 60's-Sci-Fi, TNG ("we have the moral duty to...") and Ds9 with the longer, almost soap-like story arcs. Add to this the regular oddball-episode dabbling into absolutely non-Science Fiction
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The Han Solo prequel could have been good, if only they'd hired Vince Gilligan to write it.