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T-Mobile Cuts Its Own TV Cord, Moves to Partner With YouTube TV (bloomberg.com) 28

T-Mobile will shut down its TVision live-TV service and offer Google's YouTube TV at a promotional discount, ending a three-year effort to create a disruptive alternative to cable. From a report: Customers 'don't want more streaming services -- they want help buying and navigating the services that already exist," T-Mobile Chief Executive Officer Mike Sievert wrote in a blog post Monday. The decision to back out of the crowded streaming market comes just weeks after Sievert said TVision was going to play a big role in the company's plan to enter the broadband market as soon as this month. "We don't actually even think of TVision as a business," Sievert said in an interview on March 11. "You know, we think of it as an initiative, an initiative to help us sell home broadband and serve customers." As part of the revised plan, T-Mobile will sell YouTube TV to its mobile subscribers for $54.99 a month, which is $10 less than Alphabet's Google charges.
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T-Mobile Cuts Its Own TV Cord, Moves to Partner With YouTube TV

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  • God damn paywall (Score:5, Insightful)

    by DarkRookie2 ( 5551422 ) on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @04:09PM (#61218308)
    Bloomberg and the NYT need to be stop being sources since they are stuck behind pay walls.
    • Bloomberg and the NYT need to be stop being sources since they are stuck behind pay walls.

      Half serious, is reading the source material an actual requirement here? Has it ever been? You know Slashdot provides an editorialized summary and its own headlines for a reason right? That's the setup for the conversation that follows.

      Rush Limbaugh, bless his heart, would spend just about every day of his program trashing the New York Times, in the later years at least, and no less than five times a week reading its headlines and content to his audience. You are not expected to flip it open and follow alon

      • Half serious, is reading the source material an actual requirement here?

        Yes, as the articles usually have more info than the snippet. I pretty much read each of them that pop up on this site.

  • Nope (Score:5, Insightful)

    by OneHundredAndTen ( 1523865 ) on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @04:13PM (#61218318)
    I don't want hundreds of channels. I just want to be able to select what I want to watch, at a reasonable price. I don't want to pay for a lot of stuff I am not interested in, and that I will never watch. I told that much the Comcast guys over 15 years ago, when I terminated my service with them. Since they have no changed, I have not given them my money since. And T-Mobile won't be getting my money either.
    • Re:Nope (Score:5, Interesting)

      by SirSpanksALot ( 7630868 ) on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @04:21PM (#61218346)
      It could easily be fixed if the content compensation model were changed. With streaming - they can track *exactly* what you are watching. The only content receiving income from your subscription fee should be the content you *actually* watch. Take that subscription fee, take out the infrastructure cost to stream it, and a little bit of profit on top for the company providing the service - The 80%+ that's left over - divide it evenly by watch time per show. If the only thing I watch is Rick and Morty on repeat - only Rick and Morty should get the content fee from my sub.
      • to get ABC O&O you must get ESPN and diseny.
        And ABC must be part of any package with locals.

        Also ESPN 1/2 and diseny must be in the basic cable package.

        • Again - The compensation model need to change... With streaming you know *exactly* how much espn/disney your customer is watching - if they watch zero% disney/espn should receive 0% of the subscription fee. Offer *all* the content - split the fee you pay based on content watched, not content you *could* watch.
    • On a grandfather plan, with 3 phones. Service sucks, but it's cheap at $80 for everything, so maybe they will include YouTube premium or something. Idk.
    • by e3m4n ( 947977 )
      You can thank Viacom, the souless pieces of shit that they are, for that model. Just cut the cord and pirate till they either fix their model or go bankrupt. The world could do without viacom.
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    • by tlhIngan ( 30335 )

      I don't want hundreds of channels. I just want to be able to select what I want to watch, at a reasonable price. I don't want to pay for a lot of stuff I am not interested in, and that I will never watch. I told that much the Comcast guys over 15 years ago, when I terminated my service with them. Since they have no changed, I have not given them my money since. And T-Mobile won't be getting my money either.

      And yet, people are complaining about that too - they have to subscribe to dozens of streaming service

  • There has to be antitrust concerns here somewhere considering how heavily Youtube is in the censorship business. [youtu.be]

    I particular don't care for some of the people that are being censored, but I want to determine that for myself. Tmobile is making themselves complicit and I can't help but wonder if they'll let Google et al censor my phone calls at some point.

    • What YouTube takes down because it doesn't like it is not their worse problem. 5th by my count.
      Them being pretty much the only name in general online video is one. Another is their hostile relations with the creators. Poorly designed site is a third. A copyright system that benefits corps over the law would be a 4th.
  • 1) Start a competing product.
    2) Use it as leverage during negotiations.
    3) Say "we tried" when announcing the other product's new releationship.
    4) Scrap it.

    • by e3m4n ( 947977 )

      1) Start a competing product. 2) Use it as leverage during negotiations. 3) Say "we tried" when announcing the other product's new releationship. 4) Scrap it.

      You can thank Viacom and a few others for this bundling bullshit. In order to watch that one channel you want, you have to pay the salary of some shitbag moms on Toddlers and Tieras while they pimp their little whores out and get lipo for their fatass moms. These fatasses need real jobs, they dont need fucked up senses of reality by being paid $10k an epsidode for what amounts to needing an ass whipping.

  • I looked into T-Mobile TV shortly after it was first debuted. For a company that is otherwise fantastic at competing with entrenched competitors, it was the most ridiculous thing.

    $95/month for the base tier, which had less than half the channels of my cable company. It didn't include home internet, so I'd still need my cable company for that...and the TV part of my bill is less than TMobile TV.

    It didn't include any bundled streaming services, so I'd be paying for Netflix/Hulu/Whoever on top of all of that.

  • The real story here for me is that T-Mobile is offering wireless home internet at 50 Mbps at $60 a month,
    • Why would slower, more expensive internet be a story? All the major players beat that with wired connections.

      I think you meant to say "that was the real advertisement".

      • by jetkust ( 596906 )

        Why would slower, more expensive internet be a story? All the major players beat that with wired connections.

        Several reasons, as far as I see it.
        1. Competition. In the past, several people had one or maybe two choices. And if that service was bad, or flat out didn't work, they had no other option. This is another option.
        2. Reliability. In many ways, wireless is more reliable than wired. There was a point when I had AT&T uverse when every other weekend I had to stay home waiting for a tech to show up during his window. A tech who had no capability to fix anything. They'd reset something and the service

        • Wireless broadband is not competition to wired broadband. Wires are better.
          I lose cell service more often during a storm more often than internet. Not that that happens much. I would lose power long before those 2.
          "Unlimited" I technically have unlimited data, but the speeds slow to a crawl past 3GB since ISPs are greedy fuckwads.
    • no hardcaps? but slowdown? video cap unless you pay more for uncapped video?

      What is the slow down point 50GB 100GB 500GB 1TB?

    • by madbrain ( 11432 )

      Their network is very oversubscribed, though. In my area of San Jose in the hills, a 5G signal gets just 200 kbps (not a typo).

  • Old strategy (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Crass Spektakel ( 4597 ) on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @05:57PM (#61218648) Homepage

    This is exactly the strategy T-Mobile/T-Online/Telekom has been successfully using for decades in germany. Not because they wanted it that way but they were forced by cartel law to seperate their former cable TV business. Instead they started to resell packages of TV channels, streaming services and media channels. And became very successful that way.

    For example you can get Netflix, Sky, 150 other 2k/4k-TV channels and a bazillion of smaller streaming services for €10 per month.

    They are even offering their own streaming boxes which basically nullifies the seperation of plattforms.

    So if you search for "Magnum P.I." you will get results from Netflix, Sky, TVNow, ZDF without seperating between plattforms. By searching for "Doctor Who" you get results from BBC, ARD, Joyn, also without seperating between plattforms. When I wanted to bing watch Doctor Who the Box offered me the first seven seasons from ARD (best quality, subbed), season 8-10 from Sky (subbed) and season 11 onwards from BBC (original language).

    Very Handy indeed. I just wonder why noone has thought of a similiar service before.

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