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Arrest in Caridi FBI Investigation 482

skillio writes "The FBI arrested one Russell Sprague in Illinois on Thursday in connection with the previously reported Carmine Caridi dvd screener leak investigation. Given the FBI's figure of up to 60 screeners a year provided by Caridi, and Sprague's clearly sophisticated setup, one can't help but wonder if this will prove to be the main, if not sole, source of these dvd screener leaks. Caridi has yet to be charged, but after he's admitted to supplying Sprague with screeners for the last 3-5 years, I highly doubt his innocence will remain unchallenged for very long."
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Arrest in Caridi FBI Investigation

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  • by Fear the Clam ( 230933 ) on Friday January 23, 2004 @11:26AM (#8066481)
    The FBI arrested one Russell Sprague

    Why is it that cops always arrest one of somebody? It's not like raids on human clone factories are that common.
  • All screeners? (Score:4, Informative)

    by jasonflacid ( 642681 ) <jason DOT carr AT gmail DOT com> on Friday January 23, 2004 @11:26AM (#8066482)
    I doubt that he would be the only person doing screeners. There's probably about 2-5 people per movie, as you'll get different weirdnesses (such as blured out text) in the same movie, depending on the release group.
    • Re:All screeners? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by dtolman ( 688781 ) <dtolman@yahoo.com> on Friday January 23, 2004 @11:28AM (#8066504) Homepage
      There are only so many screeners sent out by studios - if this guy _was_ sending out as many as they say he did, he probably represented a large portion of all screeners posted to the internet.
      • Re:All screeners? (Score:4, Informative)

        by pantycrickets ( 694774 ) on Friday January 23, 2004 @12:00PM (#8066822)
        There are only so many screeners sent out by studios - if this guy _was_ sending out as many as they say he did, he probably represented a large portion of all screeners posted to the internet.

        They say this guy released 60 screeners a year. There are a lot more than that a year being uploaded to usenet. So, I'm sure this will only make it so that all distributors of pirated screeners in the future will just blur any identifying marks from the film.
        • Re:All screeners? (Score:5, Insightful)

          by drinkypoo ( 153816 ) <drink@hyperlogos.org> on Friday January 23, 2004 @12:37PM (#8067216) Homepage Journal

          I'm sure this will only make it so that all distributors of pirated screeners in the future will just blur any identifying marks from the film.

          It's not that simple. The identifying marks are red herrings. The real identifying marks will be obscured. This is easy to do with modern computing technology. Since they're already making multiple copies, and duplication is the hard part, they can stick assorted different symbols/logos into portions of the movie where they will not be noticed. Even easier; Chop specific scenes down here and there by a second or two. If you're writing the mastering software it should be easy to drop MPEG frames off the end of a clip, alter the header, and create your image for burning without screwing anything up. It would also be fairly trivial to add in assorted sounds which are not found in the movie normally, or time-shift them, by overlaying them onto the audio track later. Studios typically have not done this to date because it is harder than not doing anything, but they will start doing it, because they can't just stop sending out screeners (though screeners will typically be sent to less and less people, I think - maybe we'll start seeing more workprints, which must hurt their bottom line less) but they still want to discourage copying.

          • by swschrad ( 312009 ) on Friday January 23, 2004 @01:40PM (#8067958) Homepage Journal
            it is moderately well known that data above and beyond SMTPE timecode is frequently embedded in lines 18 through, I think it is 27, in your average NTSC video frame. if you have an older TV with horizontal hold controls, roll the picture down a little and watch the black line dance above the picture.

            this is, among other things, how Panasonic VCRs can automatically set their clocks when you switch them to the local PBS channel.

            all you have to do is put a dupe serial number in that retrace bar's timespace, between the horizontal sync pulses, and you've tagged the tape with a unique number.

            it's a little harder to blur these out, because you have to replace the information or you break picture sync, putting an ugly hook in the top of the picture.

            ain't worth my time to chase it further, but bet on the serials being there... and if MPAA is truly paranoid and in league with the shadows, the name of the intended recipient of the screener. if they use some sort of argument like, "it takes a month to cut these tape copies," bet big on it.
    • Re:All screeners? (Score:3, Interesting)

      by BHennessy ( 639799 )
      The different versions are probably different 'rips' of the cds provided by Sprague, or if he ripped + released them himself, different versions of this rip.
    • by FatalTourist ( 633757 ) on Friday January 23, 2004 @11:38AM (#8066612) Homepage
      Quiet you fool! You'll ruin everything!

      Yes, this Caridi guy was the sole source. Guess you can stop looking! Right, everyone?

  • Thank you.... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by musikit ( 716987 ) on Friday January 23, 2004 @11:27AM (#8066486)
    Carmine Caridi for saving me thousands of dollars on rental fees, movie tickets, popcorn, late fees, dinner with friends/family and candy for providing the worthless crap that the MPAA puts out to the common man on the internet.

    • Re:Thank you.... (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward
      If it's worthless crap, why are you watching it?
    • Re:Thank you.... (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward
      If its crap than the easy solution would be dont go to the movies and rent the crap. these guys commited a crime as you do by downloading it. I dont agree with all the over the top pattent and copyright stuff weve seen lately but studios should be able to profit on making a movie. if the studios arent making any money then how do the make new movies?
      • by WhodoVoodoo ( 319477 ) on Friday January 23, 2004 @12:11PM (#8066951)
        Yeah! I for one am sick and tired of seeing major Hollywod studios go out of business! Oh, if only people had watched 'Cheaper by the Dozen' In theaters instead of pirating it to realize it was terrible! Why! If only they were able to profit in some way from these movies somehow!
    • by hoggoth ( 414195 ) on Friday January 23, 2004 @11:41AM (#8066640) Journal
      > Thank you ... for saving me ... for providing the worthless crap that the MPAA puts out

      Thank you to all the people I've mugged in alleys over the years for saving me thousands of dollars on cars, motorcycles, clothes, drugs, jewelry, and dinner with friends/family for providing the worthless crap that our materialistic society demands we consume.

      I am a victim of a society gone rotten!
    • I figure you're being facetious, but hell, I didn't need Carmine to help me out here, as I just stopped watching movies and (most) TV years ago.

      In the case of movies, I learned early on that very few movies were worth my (then) $10 in ticket and concession stand charges. Lack of decent content has kept me from renting. My DVD collection is mostly cartoons and anime.

  • Call me crazy... (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Txiasaeia ( 581598 ) on Friday January 23, 2004 @11:27AM (#8066488)
    ...but I can't find any mention of DVDs in the article. Wasn't this guy being charged with ripping VHS tapes?
    • ...but I can't find any mention of DVDs in the article. Wasn't this guy being charged with ripping VHS tapes?
      MSNBC is carrying a copy of the AP story [msn.com], which says,
      "The FBI said Sprague used a software program to convert the VHS tape into DVD format and then sent the original tapes back to Caridi."
      It's probably a terminology mixup.
    • Re:Call me crazy... (Score:4, Informative)

      by FattMattP ( 86246 ) on Friday January 23, 2004 @11:35AM (#8066574) Homepage
      ...but I can't find any mention of DVDs in the article.

      From the article: "The search of Sprague's residence Thursday turned up DVD copies of 11 films...

      According to the FBI, Sprague admitted receiving screeners from Caridi and said that he used the software program Copy Guard Breaker to copy the VHS tapes to DVD and then returned the original VHS tapes and two VHS copies of each to Caridi.

      Sprague said that he'd made as many as six duplicate copies of each DVD and distributed them to family and friends. He supplied copies to another friend in exchange for using a FedEx shipping account, the FBI said."

    • Re:Call me crazy... (Score:2, Informative)

      by saderax ( 718814 )
      From the article:

      An FBI search of Caridi's home resulted in the seizure of 36 original Academy VHS screener tapes and two DVD screeners. Caridi also told the FBI of eight other screeners he had received which were at another location, where agents subsequently picked them up.

      The search of Sprague's residence Thursday turned up DVD copies of 11 films -- ranging from "Samurai," "Calendar" and "Mystic" to "X2: X-Men United" and "Cold Mountain"

      emphasis mine.
  • by stealthyburrito ( 454298 ) <stealthyb@gmail. ... minus herbivore> on Friday January 23, 2004 @11:29AM (#8066513)
    So, uh, where might these screeners be released on the internet?

    We have a right to examine the evidence, right?
    • Re:Where are they? (Score:2, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward
      download bittorrent then go to www.suprnova.com (yes its spelt like that) enjoy!
  • sole source? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by gl4ss ( 559668 ) on Friday January 23, 2004 @11:29AM (#8066514) Homepage Journal
    UNLIKELY.

    If it were I'd kinda except all releases to have comen from the same group as well.

    well, it's hardly likely that it will change anything. they might scapegoat him for all the huge losses of entertainment industry that they've invented with a random number generator though.

    and you know what? sometimes the retail dvd is out in usa before the movie hits the big screen here in Finland. with phasing like that who needs screeners?
    • Re:sole source? (Score:3, Informative)

      by Otter ( 3800 )
      If it were I'd kinda except all releases to have comen from the same group as well.

      When I lived in Los Angeles, I was about as unconnected from the entertainment industry as you can get, being a molecular biologist for a living. (OK, I had an agent. And worked as an extra a couple of times. But everyone in LA has an agent from the mayor to the guy selling oranges on the freeway ramp.)

      Anyway, even I routinely had access to Academy screening videos. Those things were everywhere. I can't imagine there's any s

    • Re:sole source? (Score:3, Informative)

      by Shalda ( 560388 )
      they might scapegoat him for all the huge losses of entertainment industry

      At the very least, I expect they'll make an example of him which should have a very strong deterrent effect. Lend your screeners to the wrong person, and bam, you're out of the academy and on a lot of informal blacklists.
    • by nate1138 ( 325593 ) on Friday January 23, 2004 @11:38AM (#8066613)
      Isn't it great that a FUCKING US ATTORNEY can't even get the infringement/theft thing straight? She should be disbarred for incompetence.

      There's also this choice bit:

      Among the movies being illegally sold off the Internet: "Master and Commander," "Last Samurai," "Matrix Revolutions," "Mystic River," "Gods and Generals," "Mighty Wind," "Matchstick Men," "Something's Gotta Give," "Love Actually," "Thirteen" and "Calendar Girls."

      There is no evidencd he "sold" anything to anybody. Fuck CNN, they have no respectability anymore.
      • Fuck CNN, they have no respectability anymore.

        I lost all respect for CNN when they actually proposed it may be possible to clone Elvis [cnn.com] from a lock of his hair. That would be impossible because there is nothing but mitochondrial DNA in hair. The slightest bit of fact checking would have told them this much. Yet they ran it as a story and in the text gutter along the bottom of their newscast as a genuine possibility.

        In regard to the current topic, perhaps it was someone's personal pipe dream to clone

    • by BitchAss ( 146906 ) on Friday January 23, 2004 @11:39AM (#8066615) Homepage
      one can't help but wonder if this will prove to be the main, if not sole, source of these dvd screener leaks

      ...and does it mean they'll stop playing those damn anti-piracy commercials before movies?

      "David makes movies"

      "Alls I wants ta do is the bests jobs I cans"
      • by BitchAss ( 146906 ) on Friday January 23, 2004 @12:02PM (#8066849) Homepage
        David GOLDSTEIN! I feel better now. I've been racking my brain for the last 1/2 hour to remember his name.

        "David Goldstein makes movies" Like that makes me care more. Does anyone have a copy of that so I can download it and put it in front of the DivXs I download. I do want the full theatre experience.

        Better yet, anyone wanna make a new one with me? I have a few ideas for some...

        "John Smith pirates movies"
        "Yeah - I uh, met my wife on IRC while downloading 'Lord of the Rings'. She was dressed up as Arwin when we met. I knew it was love then."

        Y'know - it could be like those Apple switch ads.
  • Don't burn him (Score:5, Insightful)

    by blackmonday ( 607916 ) * on Friday January 23, 2004 @11:30AM (#8066520) Homepage
    If he was just sending the guy movies because he'd watched them and was done with them, the only laws he broke were of the Academy, not criminal laws. As it says in the first article, if he didn't know the movies were being copied, he's criminally innocent.

    I can't really believe that Caridi really knew that his screeners were being uploaded to the Internet. He's an older guy, I wonder if he's even familiar with the Internet, much less file-sharing. Anyways, if they were guilty wouldn't he let this other guy know, so he could get rid of the evidence before the feds showed up?

    It's pretty safe to say he won't be voting for the Academy Awards anymore.

    • Read the article. Caridi knew they were being copied -- indeed, he was having the guy mail back VHS copies.
    • As it says in the first article, if he didn't know the movies were being copied, he's criminally innocent.

      While not a term usually employed by the legal community, I think "criminally stupid" might be a better description.

  • the national nightmare is over. Finally, the screeners can roam the wilderness, free and unripped.
  • I herby give him the name 'VHS Carmine'.

    You heard it here first.
  • seinfeld (Score:2, Funny)

    by hashmap ( 613482 )
    Reminds me of the Seinfled episode when Jerry (and then George) became bootleggers.

    George: I'm a bootlegger.
    Anna: You're a what?
    George: I'm bootleggin' a movie, baby!
    Anna: Isn't that illegal?
    George: I can do hard time for this one. And community service!

    Jerry: I don't care about Brody. I was up on 96th Street today, there was a kid couldn't have been more than ten years old. He was asking a street vendor if he had any other bootlegs as good as Death Blow. That's who I care about. The little ki

  • by funpaul ( 198404 ) on Friday January 23, 2004 @11:32AM (#8066544)
    Caridi has yet to be charged, but after he's admitted to supplying Sprague with screeners for the last 3-5 years, I highly doubt his innocence will remain unchallenged for very long."

    I don't know, seems to me that Caridi flipped and gave the cops the man they really wanted. I'll bet you they'll be some fines, community service, etc., but I doubt he's going to prison. Sprague is going to be sent up for a long time though.

    What did Caridi get out of the arrangement? He denies receiving money, and says he just thought Sprague was a film buff. I wonder if all Caridi ever got from Sprague was praise and adoration: "I've always *loved* your work."
  • by Zed2K ( 313037 ) on Friday January 23, 2004 @11:33AM (#8066556)
    Since many people have been telling the movie industry for years that it is mainly its own people who distribute good copies of movies on the internet and they have constantly denied it. Are they now going to apologize?
  • by MrBlackBand ( 715820 ) on Friday January 23, 2004 @11:35AM (#8066579)
    Thank God they arrested this guy. Now I can finally sleep at night.

    FBI Agent 1: Hey, I've got some evidence here that a massive terrorist attack is going to take place at...

    FBI Agent 2: Not now! We've got to stop those damn dirty stinkin' hippie copyright infringers! To the FBImobile!

  • by geomon ( 78680 ) on Friday January 23, 2004 @11:36AM (#8066587) Homepage Journal
    if convicted of the charges that they suggest are involved.

    Sprague (charged):
    1) criminal copyright infringement, and
    2) illegal interception of a satellite signal

    Caridi (may be charged):
    1) contributory copyright infringement

    While I'm no fan of breaking copyright law (or any law for that matter), what pisses me off is that these two will be sentenced to terms longer than Bill Janklow (R,SD) [excite.com]. That fucker will get 100 days for killing someone AND his record will be expunged.

    No wonder people have no faith in the judicial system.

  • According to an FBI affidavit, six such "loopers" and six DirecTV access boxes were in plain view at Sprague's home when agents conducted their search. One box was connected to a television and had a reconfigured card in it.

    Wonder how they knew it was reconfigured for pirating satellite reception without seizing it or at least turning on the tv. Last time I checked warrant is only for the crime that it was issued to, pulling out the card or turning on the tv don't fall in scope with a warrant to search

    • Even If you were not tech savy and you saw a AVR board or other electronic device in a sat reciever, you'd know it was not a regular card. I believe they can expand their search if evidence of another crime is obvious. Most satellite hacks are pretty obvious, besides this was a previous investigation and they probably ran him the FBI DB and his ass was flagged and they looked.
  • Hey! FBI! (Score:5, Funny)

    by Bob Cat - NYMPHS ( 313647 ) on Friday January 23, 2004 @11:37AM (#8066599) Homepage
    Can you drop the fucking make-believe-land movie crap and go after those real-life terrorists instead?

    And see if you can get back my VCR and tape collection from the guy who burglarized my house.
  • by emtboy9 ( 99534 ) <jeff.jefflane@org> on Friday January 23, 2004 @11:38AM (#8066608) Homepage
    I thought it was 14 year old girls, 60 year old grandmothers, and college students who were responsible for all teh piracy... It cant possibly be one of the Acadamy members!!

    Makes ya wonder tho, after all the commercials geared to make the American public feel guilt for pirating movies, how will the MPAA and such be taken seriously now that its been pretty much proven that one of their own is responsible for HUNDREDS of movie screeners getting out into the wild?

    That would be like one of the RIAA people being found trading CDs on P2P networks in his off hours...
    • Their approaches to internet copyright infringement and illegal copying have been quite different from the get go (largely, I suspect due to the volume of piracy each industry is experiencing).
    • by Contact ( 109819 ) on Friday January 23, 2004 @12:25PM (#8067078)
      That would be like one of the RIAA people being found trading CDs on P2P networks in his off hours...

      Actually, some record industry guys were merrily quoting from an independent report a few months back, and when the author of the report asked where they'd read it (as not many copies had been purchased), they went a bit red and admitted they'd been emailing copies of it to each other.

      If they don't respect copyrights themselves, they really ought to realise why the general public don't seem to do so either.

  • by way2trivial ( 601132 ) on Friday January 23, 2004 @11:38AM (#8066611) Homepage Journal
    now the only d/l available will be screenED..
    I often wonder, the commodization of computers made the pricepoint go down.. who pays 3k for a computer any more? no one..
    ever watch the original 'blob'? one great scene, where the kids are pulled out of the movie house by the local law enforcement.. they complain "ok sherrif, you've got out eighty cents"-- movies were a dime.. and until my adulthood, so were phone calls.. think about it.. movies and payphone calls were the same price at one point in time. and payphones held level for DECADES

    could not the widespread of free movies have forced the studios to re-normalize (read, de-gouge) to a point where the value was obvious?
    instead of selling popcorn/candy/soda/food at a huge markup, and forbidding bringing it in from outside.. charge enough of a price that precludes anyone from wanting to bring it in from outside.
    instead of selling 10-20 bags at 1$ profit, sell 100-200 bags at 20 cents profit

  • The accused. (Score:5, Informative)

    by codework ( 252361 ) on Friday January 23, 2004 @11:39AM (#8066618) Homepage
    The accused biog here [imdb.com]
  • by Saeed al-Sahaf ( 665390 ) on Friday January 23, 2004 @11:40AM (#8066625) Homepage
    I highly doubt his innocence will remain unchallenged for very long.

    But average /.ers still think its hunky dory to go out to the net and download it. Everybody wants something for free, doesn't matter what it is.

    We can all go on and on about the evils of big business, how all they want to do is rip us off. But most people also think that the rules that apply to us "little people" such as honesty and integrity should apply to Big Biz as well, no double standards. So why do most here still think it's OK to steal music and movies?

    • by real_smiff ( 611054 ) on Friday January 23, 2004 @12:07PM (#8066912)
      We don't [think it's OK to steal music and movies]. We think it's ok to copy them not for profit and then, if it's good, buy a ticket or dvd & recommend others do the same.

      Things you shouldn't do (again i'm speaking under some geek "we" umbrella):

      1. Sell copies
      2. Steal media
      3. Have to pay for entertainment without knowing if it's going to be entertaining, when you don't have the chance of a refund - ? Otherwise the studios could, you know, produce bad movies and still make money from them...

      oh, wait...

      I'm very much of the belief that good movies are worth watching more than once, BTW.

    • I love responding to these! For example: The RIAA was sued for price fixing [musiccdsettlement.com].

      The settlement dictates that if you bought one CD, cassete, or album from a member of the RIAA between January 1, 1995, through December 22, 2000, you are entitled to 20 bucks. Max.

      If you bought 300 CDs, you would get 20 bucks. Max.

      If you bought a CD every day for those five years - 20 dollars. Max.

      Please note, the RIAA admits to no wrongdoing. If the total to each claimant is less than 5 dollars, it all goes to charity. (And becomes a tax write off?)

      You're right! I don't want 'double standards'. If I do something wrong, like infringe copyright - I want to settle for a fraction of the money a make each year, and admit no wrongdoing.

      Just like the 'Big Biz'.

      Why do you think it's so hard to justify? With the number of entities trying to screw me over on a daily basis, then 'admitting no wrongdoing' (catchphrase of the 21 century), I have a hard time caring about anything that 'hurts' big business.

  • by TheDawgLives ( 546565 ) <http://www.suckitdown.org> on Friday January 23, 2004 @11:41AM (#8066643) Homepage Journal
    It's nice to see the FBI arresting the person actually breaking the law, unlike the RIAA which suied napster and other P2P services for "providing a conduit to break the law." If the FBI thought like the RIAA, they would destroy all roads in the US, because they facilitate people breaking the speed limit.
  • by nurb432 ( 527695 ) on Friday January 23, 2004 @11:43AM (#8066658) Homepage Journal
    This should be a civil manner, not something that has been escalated to a federal criminal issue. ( including their funding via taxes )

    Yes I realize that recent laws have allowed this, but that doest make it right.

    At this point the feds can go after anything they want, for any reason. regardless of how severe it isnt.
    • This should be a civil manner, not something that has been escalated to a federal criminal issue. ( including their funding via taxes )

      You can check out the FBI's updated priorities here [fbi.gov]. I too don't see how the FBI got mixed up with movies. Maybe its just advertising, because the most I hear/see from the FBI on a regular basis is at the beginning of DVDs where the FBI warns me to be good with the content of the disc.

      But hey, if the FBI is this aggressive for movie copyright violators, then terrorists,
  • by hugzz ( 712021 ) on Friday January 23, 2004 @11:44AM (#8066670)
    Just to be noted from the article:
    However, because this year the screeners carried invisible markings for the first time, the studios were able to identify the Academy member for whom they had been intended.

    If everyone who gets a copy of movies knows that they're traceable, wont this seriously cut back the amount of people willing to get screeners onto the internet? I know if I was given screeners and occaisionally leaked them, i'd stop right now (at least until I found out what these "invsible markings" were, and how to remove them)

    • Any decent group distributing these movies, have known about, and removed these marks for years now, This is just a slightly new idea in that manner of copy protection, It'll be broken. They just missed it this first time (oops),

      As I recall, Normally, they get two seperate copy's of a movie, and compare them, to find out whats different, then remove it from both copys.

      or something, Y'know.
      • What if the protection is something that is in every copy but one?
  • Why wouldn't this guy have disposed of, or at least hidden away in some storage facility (pay with cash), all of his equipment?
    If I'm doing something like he was and my "supplier" gets busted, everything I have is going bye bye. You still might get busted, but they're going to have a hell of a lot harder time prosecuting you if they don't have that stuff as evidence.
  • by gkuz ( 706134 ) on Friday January 23, 2004 @11:48AM (#8066710)
    So I actually RTFA, and I'm wondering about the legal basis for the "illegal interception of satellite signals" part. I can see where copyright infringement is illegal, and I can see where duplicating the SatTV smart cards is illegal, but what, exactly, is "illegal interception"? If they beam RF into my home, can't I receive it and -- purely for experimental purposes, say -- try to do something with it? The RF spectrum is licensed for transmitting on, but I thought I had a legal right to receive whatever I wanted. Now whether I can decrypt the data I receive is another question entirely.
    • If they beam RF into my home, can't I receive it and -- purely for experimental purposes, say -- try to do something with it?

      No. And if your neighbors might be wondering the same thing, I suggest you don't buy a cordless phone. Or a cell phone.

  • by barryfandango ( 627554 ) on Friday January 23, 2004 @11:51AM (#8066735)

    "The FBI affidavit does not explain how the films were uploaded to the Internet."

    The FBI understands how the screeners were distributed and then illegally copied using elaborate equipment. As for how that digital information made it on to the interweb, they are still researching the possibilities. Their suspicions include the use of some kind of Computing Machine.

  • Double Standards (Score:5, Insightful)

    by thenextpresident ( 559469 ) on Friday January 23, 2004 @12:03PM (#8066866) Homepage Journal
    I am probably going to be mod'ed as flamer, but still. I see a lot of double standards here (yeah, it's /., I know). These people broke the law. They should be punished.

    People are complaining about wording in the article or from quotes (people suggesting they "stole" something). Does it really matter? Does the description of the act to a news reporter change the crime? If I describe a murderer's act as "He hurt the victims...", does that change the fact that the murderer committed the crime?

    And for everyone complaining about how the big bad MPAA is going after people for these "littie" crimes. Remember, they are using the same laws that protect the Linux Kernel. When the community goes after a company that doesn't provide the source code they use, and don't follow the GPL, it's basically the same damn thing. We have rights they agreed to, and we expect them to act accordingly.

    I mean, seriously, by suggesting that the MPAA shouldn't be going after these guys is tantamount to suggesting that the laws should be different for big companies and small companies.

    Regardless of the current state of the laws in the country, that's just wrong. If these guys did commit crimes, nuff said. They should be punished.

    Saying that they shouldn't be punished for committing a crime is just wrong.
    • Re:Double Standards (Score:3, Interesting)

      by forand ( 530402 )
      I think that there is an undertone that you might be missing: many here are worried about the "current state of the laws in the country." As a poster aboved mentioned this type of "crime" was a civil matter and used to be handled by civil courts. Now, however, federal, state, and local governments are doing the grunt work and paying to enforce these new laws.

      Also I don't think you are correct in your assertion that the same laws are protecting the linux kernel, the laws being used here are criminal law
  • by panic911 ( 224370 ) * on Friday January 23, 2004 @12:27PM (#8067118) Homepage
    I recall hearing about a congressman who is spending 100 days in jail for killing a biker when he hit him wrecklessly with his car. What a wonderful justice system we have in the US, you can kill a man and go to jail for 100 days or you can make copies of a digital video and distribute them and spend the next 15 years in jail. It's a movie, it's not worth ruining peoples lives over.

    I also like how the MPAA (and RIAA, for that matter) determines their statistics for stolen movies/songs. If you have a movie on your computer, thats money that the MPAA lost. But in reality, most likely you would never spend a penny on that movie anyway.

    Stupid MPAA
  • summary of charges (Score:5, Interesting)

    by LookSharp ( 3864 ) on Friday January 23, 2004 @12:30PM (#8067138)
    According to the FBI, Sprague admitted receiving screeners from Caridi and said that he used the software program Copy Guard Breaker to copy the VHS tapes to DVD and then returned the original VHS tapes and two VHS copies of each to Caridi.

    Sprague said that he'd made as many as six duplicate copies of each DVD and distributed them to family and friends. He supplied copies to another friend in exchange for using a FedEx shipping account, the FBI said.

    The FBI affidavit does not explain how the films were uploaded to the Internet.


    So they found the "source," and it was really Caridi, not Sprague. Caridi was getting "keeper" copies of all of the movies, so who cares that Sprague was making the dupes? Sprague was just the guy that had the equipment and expertise to do it, with a few buddies on the side. He didn't seem to have financial motive. One of his "friends" was kind enough to rip and upload his backroom work for him. Sprague's a hacker but now he faces three years for someone else uploading his hack.

    Sprague's a pirate, no question. What he did was wrong. But three years of Federal-Pound-Me-In-The-Ass-Prison for copying movies? (It's probably be low security, but still...) Caridi is the violator and should be held liable for the movie piracy, especially after the agreement he signed.

    Separately, DirecTV filed a civil lawsuit against Sprague in May over his alleged theft of its satellite signal. In 2002, Sprague had been named, along with hundreds of other suspects, in a massive crackdown on equipment that can be used to reprogram satellite television access cards, a method by which pirates illegally get programming for free. Paying customers are issued personally encoded cards with their subscription.

    Sprague stole satellite TV and made cards for others to do it also... yes the whole debate about "you can't steal signals that reach everyone" will rage on, but there's no question they were defrauding DirecTV. On the other hand, that carries a potential five year prison term, is that appropriate for a first offense?
    • from what my brother tells me (he is a cop), federal prison is fairly cushy (unless its a ultra max), where as state lockup can be hellish, espcially if your in one of the rather poor southern states like Louisana (sp?) or Texas.
  • by Rufus211 ( 221883 ) <rufus-slashdot@@@hackish...org> on Friday January 23, 2004 @01:05PM (#8067534) Homepage
    I highly doubt that he is the "sole source" for all DVD screeners. It simply wouldn't make sense considering how many groups there are out there releasing them in competition with each other and with different versions. If there was one source there would be one group always getting the first release for every movie, which just isn't the case. My best guess was that he was OBUS's [vcdquality.com] source. They're the only group that released all of the movies listed in the article and while they are a major group, they're far from the largest or most well known.
  • by mkro ( 644055 ) on Friday January 23, 2004 @01:31PM (#8067853)
    A quick search on nforce.nl at least reveals what release group ended up with the movies:

    Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World *SCREENER* - OBUS
    The Last Samurai (2003) *SCREENER* - OBUS
    Mystic River (2003) *SCREENER* - OBUS
    Calendar Girls (2003) *LIMITED* *SCREENER* - OBUS
    Thirteen (2003) *LIMITED* *SCREENER* - OBUS

    Check the nfo of Thirteen [nforce.nl] for a nice description of how they recruit people.

    "Do you have connections within the academy network and can you obtain academy screeners/dvd screeners during oscar season. then contact us asap."

    Oh, and if any feds are reading this: Even though Cokine is the only "name" of an actual person in the nfo, it does not mean he is affiliated with the group. He is just another starving ascii artist, taking requests over IRC.

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