I, Robot Trailer Available 1086
thehomeland writes "A new 'I, Robot' movie is coming out based on the Isaac Asimov book series, starring Will Smith. I saw a teaser at the theatre back at the LOTR:ROTK showing, but it looked so much like a commercial I didn't even realize it was a trailer until I saw a logo that said '3 Laws Safe'. Now there's a regular trailer as well as a nice featurette for better details."
War of the worlds, take 2 (Score:5, Interesting)
It's interesting that they've chosen to take the same sort of approach on the website for "I Robot" though - they've really tried to make it look as though a personal robot (NS-5) exists and will be used for the film... Perhaps it ought to drive a car around [slashdot.org] if so...
I'd really like to know what the search-count is on google for 'NS-5' or 'Android Mechanics' now that this has hit Slashdot
Simon
Re:War of the worlds, take 2 (Score:5, Insightful)
*cough*Blair Witch Project*cough*
Re:War of the worlds, take 2 (Score:5, Funny)
Re:War of the worlds, take 2 (Score:3, Insightful)
get a clue...
Re:War of the worlds, take 2 (Score:5, Funny)
Re:War of the worlds, take 2 (Score:3, Funny)
Re:War of the worlds, take 2 (Score:3, Informative)
If it's an especially popular film, it might show up on the weekly/monthly Google Zeitgeist [google.com]. An aggressive marketing campaign, even targetted at people who use Google, probably wouldn't stand much of a chance, though; archived data [google.com] shows that people's interests are rather pop-culturey (cf. Sex and the City near its final episode) or holiday-based ("love poems" in week ending Feb. 16).
Is that the answer you were looking for?
(And no, on a personal note, I don't think people will buy it at all. There's now a
Re:War of the worlds, take 2 (Score:3, Funny)
Orson Welles is old and busted.
Will Smith's the new hotness!
Re:War of the worlds, take 2 (Score:5, Funny)
Yeah, now they only trust anything they see on television!
You might wanna try the Google Zeitgeist [google.com] for that search count, though It's not very "live". Keep an eye on it!
=Smidge=
Re:War of the worlds, take 2 (Score:5, Informative)
Actually, most of the panic was just marketing spin [manions.com].
This brings back memories! (Score:5, Funny)
Soundtrack (Score:5, Interesting)
Wil Weaton (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Wil Weaton (Score:2, Informative)
doesn't look like it
Re:Wil Weaton (Score:2)
Re:Wil Weaton (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Wil Weaton (Score:3, Informative)
Judging by his page on imdb [imdb.com] I'd say no...
The bastards! (Score:5, Insightful)
Why do they even bother buying the rights to something they couldn't really care less about, artistically?
Re:The bastards! (Score:4, Insightful)
Possibly, the huge amounts of publicity, the fact that it gets people talking about the product and whether it is good or not a large portion of people will go see it based on the name and their connection to the book. Furthermore, the majority of the executives that are making the important decisions like this don't care about the film artistically, they are just their to ensure profits.
The movie is a bastardization. (Score:3, Interesting)
A step backwards (Score:5, Insightful)
Asimov's Laws effectively ended the 'Frankenstein' phase of robot stories in written SF. Good SF at least takes a shot at taking into account the sociopolitical aspects of technology. It's obvious that we will never be legally allowed to build AI that controls potentially lethal force without some protection against it being used against us. [Exceptions will of course be made for DoD robots, but they will no doubt have their own safeguards.] Once Asimov's Laws were in print, SF authors could never get away with selling books about robots going amok and turning on their human masters. Everyone knew that the government would demand the Three Laws or a close analogue be installed in every robot
Ah, well. Movies tend not to be as intellectually evolved as books, so we're treated to the Terminator series, and now the greatest spectacle of script syncretism since The Tower and The Glass Inferno movie adaptations were forged into The Towering Inferno. I'll probably contribute to the insanity by paying to watch this bastard, then look forward to seeing it parodied in a future Scary Movie release.
Re:A step backwards (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:A step backwards (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:A step backwards (Score:3, Insightful)
It's fairly easy to conceive of something going wrong with the Three Laws. Look at software written today, and tell me that the code for an AI is gonna be bug free. I bet you can't do it with a straight face.
Add in things like nasty dictatorships adding code into, say, housekeeping robots, that makes them flip out on peacekeepers randomly. Or, perhaps, a compu
MiB3 (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:MiB3 (Score:4, Interesting)
It doesn't feel like I-Robot (Score:5, Informative)
There is no doubt that this is nothing more than Men In Black and Independence Day. Will smith is not a sci-fi actor and he shouldn't be. He turned sci-fi into a black commedy children's movie. I'm just glad that he declined the role of Neo in The Matrix, as he was originally casted to do.
Re:It doesn't feel like I-Robot (Score:3, Informative)
The movie seems to revolve around the 3 robotic laws that Asimov came up with. So, the title seems appropiate in at least acknowledging that. The 3 laws have been used many times in non Asimov stories.
Re:It doesn't feel like I-Robot (Score:3, Insightful)
Dungeons & Dragons [imdb.com] had elves, dwarves, and wizards in it. It is certainly inspired by JRR Tolkien's work. But you don't see it being called "Lord of the Rings", do you?
Dr. Calvin is in it (Score:3, Informative)
Will as Neo (Score:4, Interesting)
One of the intresting things is that Warner Bros retained casting control over the film. The W. Bros had no control over who played the leads...
Will smith (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Will smith (Score:4, Insightful)
[TMB]
Re:Rumors (Score:3, Insightful)
In its own right I think that was a rather entertaining and at times superbly funny flick. I suppose that it wasn't quite what fans of the book were expecting but what Verhoeven came up with worked quite well as a movie.
Actually, I'm less concerned about Will Smith than about the fact that they cast some hot chick straight out of the Coyote Ugly Bar to pose as Susan Calvin. But let's keep an open mind.
No mention of Isaac Asimov (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:No mention of Isaac Asimov (Score:2)
Re:No mention of Isaac Asimov (Score:3, Interesting)
Asimov wrote multiple books and stories based on the Three Laws. Hell, he even worked them into the Foundation series. But the fact that there's a Dr. Susan Calvin character implies that the movie follows Asimov's stories at least a little.
Re:No mention of Isaac Asimov (Score:3, Informative)
Re:No mention of Isaac Asimov (Score:4, Informative)
Re:No mention of Isaac Asimov (Score:5, Insightful)
It's been a while since I read Asimov, but after watching the preview, it seems obvious that this will be typical Hollywood "sci-fear" rather than "sci-fi". At the end of the trailer, there is a comment by the actor that essentially says the point of the movie is uncovering the "deep dark secret truth" or something like that at US Robotics (what might that be, people don't like modems?). My Guess, this will be yet another Hollywood flick about how scary technology can be. The irony is of course, that in Asimov's world, on Earth robots were rejected as a frightening technology (safety/economic fears). I expect this movie will be a dissapointing abuse of Asimov's legacy.
Re:No mention of Isaac Asimov (Score:5, Informative)
Will Smith stars in this action thriller suggested by the classic short story collection by Isaac Asimov, and brought to the big screen by dynamic and visionary director Alex Proyas ("Dark City," "The Crow"). In the year 2035, robots are an everyday household item, and everyone trusts them, except one, slightly paranoid detective (Smith) investigating what he alone believes is a crime perpetrated by a robot. The case leads him to discover a far more frightening threat to the human race. "I, ROBOT" uses a spectacular, state-of-the-art visual effects technique to bring a world of robots to life.
Re:No mention of Isaac Asimov (Score:5, Informative)
The movie really doesn't have anything to do with "I, Robot," as far as I know -- the original script for it was called, IIRC, "Hardwired." To be fair, it was supposed to be a pretty damn good script, but when it was bought by the studio that also had done some development work with "I, Robot" and owned the film rights to the name, they decided to merge the two concepts, because to someone with a Hollywood marketing executive's deep insight they're close enough (detective trying to solve murders committed by a robot). Really, though, it's still "Hardwired," with some of the names from the Asimov stories.
I'll be curious to see if it's still a good movie, but I don't expect it to be a good adaptation of anything related to Asimov's works. The fact that it's pretending to be is unfortunate marketing spin.
In the mind of a marketing executive (Score:5, Funny)
Public: "That's what you said about merging Aliens and Beverly Hills Cop. Did Pluto Nash even have a script?"
Marketing Executive: "Everyone loves the Coz!"
Public: "You're thinking about Leonard Part 6."
Marketing Executive: "Exactly. How did it get to Part 6 if it wasn't great?"
Public: [sigh]
Re:No mention of Isaac Asimov (Score:5, Insightful)
I've read every Asimov SF book and as far as I can tell there are no white folks either. In case you missed my point, the humans in his books can be of any race you wish them to be. That's the beauty of the written word; so much can be said without expliticly stating it.
You seem to assume that no mention of race naturally means that all the protaganists are white. This highlights a very disturbing form of bigotry. I hope that the hood isn't so tight that you can't ever cease your hatred momentarily and begin to educate yourself about biology, genetics, ethics and, let's be honest, plain old common decency.
You should also be able to see it here... (Score:5, Informative)
some torrent (Score:5, Informative)
Re:some torrent (Score:2)
Shame on them (Score:2, Informative)
I'll wait for it on HBO.
Correction (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Correction (Score:3, Insightful)
I picked up "Robot Visions," a collection of Asimov robot stories and essays, last week because it had a couple stories I had never read and a number I just hadn't read in a while. Asimov's writing, which discuss the posibilities of hum
Outer Limits Episode, Ellison (Score:5, Interesting)
Sci-Fi (Score:4, Interesting)
I hope they make some of the really great ones while there is still time such as Ender's Game and Ringworld
Ender's Game (Score:2, Interesting)
Sadly, it may already be too late. Now that the Ender's Shadow books are out, Card seems to be insisting that any Ender's Game movie shoehorn elements from that book in as well. So the Ender's Game that we all know and love will probably never happen. :(
Re:Sci-Fi (Score:4, Funny)
A story about nerds who get picked on, are really good at videogames, and have a messiah complex? I think I read that daily on slashdot.
horrible (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:horrible (Score:2)
I don't think so. I found Westworld [imdb.com] pretty entertaining when I first saw it.
True, it may not have philosophical depth, but it's all about selling popcorn.
U.S Robotics Corporation ??? (Score:2, Funny)
I see another 20 minutes for my 100k download... I haven't had a USR since 300 baud
Matrix (Score:2, Interesting)
Man makes machine, machine works for man. Machine commits murder, man trys to shut machines down. Machines go to war.
I guess it sounds like 50% of sci-fi storys out there...
Title (Score:3, Funny)
I, Robot vs. I, Rapper
They've killed Asimov (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:They've killed Asimov (Score:3, Informative)
The problem is that "protecting humanity" will be used as way to trump the 3 laws and turn the robot into RoboCop, with the 3 laws conflict depicted as a variation of standard drama/action cop angst.
It might suck, it might not, but I'm 95% certain that it will have very little to do with anything Asimov ever wrote.
Re:They've killed Asimov (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:They've killed Asimov (Score:4, Informative)
The plot of the story was that one of these robots made it into a large population of robots with all three laws and Susan Calvin had to sort it out (while of course saying that these lesser roboticists were morons for creating robots without the first law).
Unfortunately I do not remember the title of the short story, nor the collection in which it appeared, it was over 10 years I read it. Perhaps someone else can help me with that? This would probably be a fairly early collection of short stories by Asimov.
To help the memory, the reason they were created was to serve as help on a science station (in space, I think), where humans were submitted to low levels of radiation which killed the positronic brains instantly.
The scientists accepted the low risk of harm for the sake of observing whatever it was, but the the three laws of robotics didn't allow the robots to idly stand by and let even that low level of harm happen. And when they rushed in, they were instantly killed by radiation.
Re:They've killed Asimov (Score:5, Informative)
Re:They've killed Asimov (Score:3, Informative)
Yes, I got that detail on removal/modification wrong. And the rest of the info fits with my memory. Now I know what to look for when I try to find it for reading it again.
Re:They've killed Asimov (Score:3, Informative)
The three laws were to be so deeply ingrained in the positronic brain of the robot that to disobey any of them would cause "roblock", the robot would freeze up.
As mentioned above, there were a group of robots working in a radiation laboratory. The robots would rush in to save
the humans, only to destroy themselves (the radiation frys positronic brains and is relatively harmless to humans)
so a new batch of robots was purchased with part of the first law "or
The Earth has developed a slight orbital problem. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:The Earth has developed a slight orbital proble (Score:2)
Maybe they could hook him up to a generator so he could supply electricity.
I think he would approve.
Re:The Earth has developed a slight orbital proble (Score:3, Funny)
How would we notice? All the inertia generated by rotational corpses nowadays is canceling out.
I daresay that it's possible we could use the gravitational vortex being generated by Jefferson's corpse as a time travel device
SB
I did think it was gonna be good.. (Score:2)
This might sound trollish (and it isn't), but Will Smith isn't exactly a prestigious actor and not exactly a name that you attribute *GOOD* movies with.
Then again, Keanu Reeves was in the same boat (still is) and look at how good the Matrix was, so who knows. It could be a good casting move, but I'm certainly not counting on it.
Re:I did think it was gonna be good.. (Score:4, Informative)
There's a lot of talent there, but he's mostly using it to make cheap^H^H^H^H^Hexpensive action movies and some not-very-good dramas (Ali, Bagger Vance).
He's got a lot of on-screen charisma, which is actually one of the most important skills an actor can have. People respond well to him, and that's a hard thing to teach. (I'm a director, and I've tried.) He's got some range, though he's at his best when it's light-hearted (his rap career, his sitcom, Men in Black).
But I keep looking for him to follow up his very good (not brilliant, but very very good) performance in Six Degrees. I haven't seen that yet.
Keanu... well, Keanu tries. I was actually the only one on the world who liked him in Much Ado About Nothing. He was interesting in My Own Private Idaho. He was actually rather good in that awful Something's Gotta Give. He really, really wants to be a Good Actor, but he'll have to settle for being charismatic.
Reality.. (Score:2)
Obligatory,
Frink: No, the robot is programmed to serve humans, following Asimov's 3 Laws of Robots, Asimov, with the so many books, not so many good....
U.S. Robotics--Who knew? (Score:2, Funny)
Reminds me of my early days online [usr.com].
USR? (Score:2)
will smith movies (Score:2)
What will the next pair of "super-cool" sunglasses look like, and what will the requisite rap song sound like?
Apple has trailers posted too. (Score:2, Redundant)
Not Like Any Asimov Story (Score:2)
Pissing on Asimov's grave (Score:4, Insightful)
'I, Robot' was the first *adult* (ie, no pictures in it) book I ever read as a kid, at the age of maybe 4 or 5. I still have the exact copy of the book even now. I remember being very disappointed when I found out that robots didn't really exist.
And now it looks as though Asimov is going to be fucked over by Hollywood. For Christ's sake, they had Akiva fucking Goldsman writing the script! The man who wrote 'Batman & Robin', 'Lost In Space' and a whole pile of other shit. Asimov can still write better than Goldsman, and he's *dead*. This fucktard shouldn't be writing v1agra spam, never mind major motion pictures.
In Asimov's stories, the whole point of the Three Laws was that they were never actually broken! Human error led to situations where robots were caught in conflict between their explicit orders and the Laws, or they *seemed* to be breaking one Law - but only to obey another. However, in the trailer we see crazed robots chasing and attacking humans left, right and centre. Somehow I don't think we're going to get Powell and Donovan puzzling out what's gone wrong, step by step.
Even the trailer is selling it as Bad Boys 3: Cybercops, what with Smith doing all his Fresh Prince schtick. I actually *like* Will Smith, but I don't want him doing wacky bullshit in an Isaac Asimov adaptation!
And we even get an emotional robot right there in the trailer. Again, Asimov's robots may have *seemed* to have emotional responses in the stories, but it was invariably due to orders-vs-Laws conflicts that made them act oddly, or projection on the part of the humans interacting with them. Some of the robots in his stories (especially Daneel Olivaw) may have had personalities, but they were still *machines*, and behaved as such.
Shit, and I had some hopes for this film - before I saw the trailer - too. It might even make money - "Will Smith vs killer robots? Keeeewl!" - but it's probably going to be even more insulting to Asimov than 'Paycheck' was to PKD.
Re:Pissing on Asimov's grave (Score:3, Interesting)
It sounds like these robots had the same problem as HAL in 2001...
Re:Pissing on Asimov's grave (Score:5, Insightful)
Jesus. Seriously, who owns the rights to Asimov's stuff? Surely a child or newphew or somebody can sue to get this title changed or something?
I'm with you. That 3 Laws Safe trailer attached to ROTK had enough cool-factor in it that I had high hopes as well. But this is total and utter crap. I'm sure it'll make $60 million, I'm sure the Burger King Kids Meal Toys will be quite wonderful and entertaining, and I'm sure all the old Will Smith "Wild Wild West" action figures still in storage will melt down quite nicely and save Hasbro nearly $5 million in materials cost. But this movie is pissing on Asimov's grave. I seriously wonder if I even want to see this.
Chris Cunningham ripoff? (Score:4, Informative)
More info on the movie (Score:4, Funny)
For instance they tweaked Asimov's three laws a bit to make them more accessible and relevant to modern moviegoers, they are now:
Law 1: A robot must not talk about injuring human beings in Fight Club.
Law 2: A robot must not talk about injuring Robots in Fight Club.
Law 3: A robot must protect itself from injury using a minigun and rocket launchers.
The 3 laws (Score:5, Informative)
1: A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
2: A robot must obey orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3: A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
Re:The 3 laws (Score:3, Interesting)
0: A robot may not injure humanity or, through inaction, allow humanity to come to harm.
Re:The 3 laws (Score:3, Funny)
1: An film may not injure a book or, through inaction, allow a book to come to harm.
2: A film must obey orders given it by fans except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3: A film must protect its profits as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
4: Fuck laws 1..3 and make as much profit as possible.
Odd balance (Score:5, Interesting)
On the other hand, we've got Alex Proyas as the director, who did both Dark City [imdb.com] and The Crow [imdb.com]. Both were very good films, and I think we should give this film a chance to turn out just as well.
Trailer often don't reflect the film . . . (Score:5, Insightful)
Of course, I knew lots of people who said, "You know the scene where Neo shoots everything? That was the best part!" Apparently the parts of the movie I enjoyed went right by them. Maybe I, Robot will be the same way. Those looking for an action movie will get that, and those of us wanting action and something thought-provoking to talk about afterwards will get our way, too.
Here's hoping. :-)
Re:Trailer often don't reflect the film . . . (Score:3, Insightful)
To me, Asimov's Robot stories were about exploring the concept of unbreakable laws, and how humans who depend upon the reliability of apparently such infallible laws react and adapt to situations when they fail. They're a wonderful blend of "what
Top 10 of the things you thought you'd never see (Score:5, Funny)
Imagine hearing this prediction back in the days of the Fresh Prince of Bel Air.
Back then I'd have sooner believed that the LOTR movies would someday made, and made very well by the same guy who made the campy horror comedy Bad Taste.
Oh wait....
nevermind.
Asimov dated. (Score:3)
Re:Asimov dated. (Score:5, Insightful)
Very rarely is technology itself the focus of the the story - even in the robot stories where a specific robot often seems to be in focus, as one of the main characters in the story, they tend to be only props used to make some point.
This is a common thread with most of the sci-fi that survives long term. HG Wells, the Time Machine stands the test of time because the technology of the time machine isn't relevant to the story line. For that matter, the story could more or less have been told without time travel - just like in for instance Gullivers Travels, the whole journey is just an excuse to set the scene the way the authors wants.
Gibson survives because he's detached enough from technology to write about it in very broad strokes - there are very few details to get hung up about as "dated".
Philip K. Dick survives because most of his stories are about his characters, not about the technology they surround themselves with.
And so on...
The sci-fi that dates badly is the techno-fetishist stuff that is about the technology, as opposed to the consequences of the technology.
From modems to killer robots? (Score:3, Funny)
Seriously, did they get permision to use this name in the movie?
Asimov spinning? (Score:3, Interesting)
Unless these people have worked on the movie and read the screenplay I do not understand how they can make that judgement right now. Sure, there are a few bits in the trailer that show some kind of fight going on involving robots, but that's not entirely inconsistent with the three laws. Many of Asimov's robot stories were concerned with situations where the actions of a robot seemed to break the laws of robotics and sometimes people did get hurt.
All we really have right now is a trailer and a brief interview-type bit with Will Smith and the director. From that we can see in a few very brief clips that some robots run amok, and we hear from Will Smith that some robots malfunction. From what I remember reading Asimov this is all still fairly consistent.
What all the naysayers need to bear in mind right now is that all of the footage we've been shown has been put together by marketing people. Most if not all of them will have no idea about the original material and will not have read Asimov. All they have to go on is the footage they've got of the movie. The writer and director rarely have much imput into what goes into this stuff.
I'm not saying that this movie is going to be consistent with Asimov. What I'm saying is that right now it's too early to tell for sure. We'll see in July.
3 Hollywood Laws (Score:5, Funny)
1: A Hollywood Exec may not crate a good adaptation of book to film, or, through inaction, allow such a movie to be made.
2: A Hollywood Exec must obey orders given it by the Marketing Polls except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3: A Hollywood Exec must protect its own profit margins as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
Re:Which story? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Which story? (Score:4, Informative)
Re:What about Foundation?? (Score:4, Interesting)
Even so, you're not going to have 2 hour in-cabin discussions on the basics of relativity, hyperspace, or robot theory (as Asimov would often do). It made for interesting reading, but not good movie material.
Now, 'Robots of Dawn' would make an INCREDIBLE movie because it has everything a MOVIE would need to make it a hit (sex, violence, dramatic tension, good special fx with a point, etc.) If the original series are ever done as movies - prepare for major rewrites aka, LOTR.
Re:Trailer, IRobot (Score:2)
http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/i_robot/ [apple.com]
It actually works, too.
Speaking of Matrix parallel... (Score:3, Interesting)
I just got out my Matrix Revolutions soundtrack CD, and though I only viewed the I, Robot trailer once...track 16, Juno Reactor vs. Don Davis - Navras sure sounds like the music heard in the trailer...
Ok, I'll check again in the trailer...the relevant part in the trailer starts right at the city shot after Will Smith says "when people were killed by other people." Relevant part in song on soundtrack star
Re:Speaking of Matrix parallel... (Score:5, Informative)
Personally, I think cutting in recognizable sequences from other movies is an extremely risky thing to do, as anyone who can recognize the music cannot help but make a connection (either good or bad) between the film that the music was originally scored from, and the new film...