Build Your Own Model B-52 200
Assmasher writes "Who says the cold war is over? Wren
Turbines, a UK based manufacturer of scale modeling jet engines (usually for remote control aircraft), has provided the engines for a 300lbs+ scale replica of Boeing's B-52. This isn't normal Slashdot fare; however, it is nerdy enough, crazy enough, and if you watch the videos, cool enough to warrant serious geek attention. At roughly $3k per turbine, this is a serious piece of engineering. The sound alone is amazing!"
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B52_Test1.wmv [freecache.org]
B52%20008.wmv [freecache.org]
B52%20006.wmv [freecache.org]
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Sounds really cool.
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I had Windows Media Player installed a while back, then decided it was a little creepy. Not anti-MS-bigot creepy, but creepy like RealPlayer. Like those programs are trying to figure out how to get into your checking account while they're playing your file and are like "play it one more time, we're almost there!" so you have to keep quiting them in the middle of clips to make sure they don't take all your money or write letters to people you barely know signed with your name...
just another Friday night, sitting around slashdot in my tin foil hat...
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It looks pretty sweet.
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deb http://freevo.sourceforge.net/debian unstable main
(just add that line to
It should play those movies just fine.
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2. Takeoff 2.1Mb [akamaitech.net]
3. Flying 3.35Mb [akamaitech.net]
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Pure and simple laziness and disrespect on the part of Slashdot, this is. We frigging nuke people's websites with our numbers, blindsiding both site owners and their hosts with the hammering a Slashdotting gives out.
The very fucking least we, as a community -- and this really means Taco and company getting off their asses and coding it -- should do is be kind enough to make use of our superiour technical skills and knowhow, and automatically mirror humongous files to a BitTorrent feed.
It should not be difficult to do:
1. Parse new stories for URLs.
2. Spider said URL at least one level deep. And single files weighing in at, say, 1Mb and larger being Torrented.
3. On posting the story, replace large-file URLs with Torrent reference.
Result: A global community that doesn't live in mortal fear of being noticed by Slashdot, and a fantastic reduction in the number of Slashdotted sites, which means all of end-users will be happier. A win-win-win situation that's both courteous and beneficial.
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Yeah Right (Score:3, Insightful)
Not.
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so here's my question: why all the anger directed at slashdot? is the submitter unaware of the slashdot effect? we all know that the editors don't read every article in depth (heck, it seems they don't read some at all!) so i figure the submitter has a better idea of the page's request for consideration of their bandwidth than the editors. if someone's going to be
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Just $3k per turbine? (Score:5, Funny)
I wish some people would just remember Econ 201 (Score:2)
I.e. the overall priece is calculated and then devided by the different components needed to complete the project, so that a hammer in the end costs the same as a turbin or any other component.
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hammer and toilet seat: good deal (Score:2, Informative)
seat and wall assembly of an aircraft lavatory.
This was for the B1 bomber, so it was a custom
design for a cramped space. I think they got a
good deal, considering what they got.
The hammer was some sort of calibrated impact
device. There's a dial on it that you can set.
Then, when you give something a whack, you can
be sure to deliver the right amount of force.
This lets you avoid breaking parts which most
likely cost far more than the "hammer".
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Seriously, the sound might be different due to listening to the inside of the engine or the side of it. Or listening to the intake is low pitched, but the exhaust may be high pitched due to the smaller
B-52's (Score:2, Funny)
And today they are pretty much just models for the "before" picture.
Beats the hell.. (Score:5, Funny)
The B52 is just wierd (Score:5, Interesting)
This leads to some crazy descent angle where the arcraft seems to be flying directly AT THE GROUND until it flares at the last second to place the wheel sets parallel to the runway to touchdown.
It's perfectly safe but damn, that's a wierd feeling when you are riding in one.
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12 to 14 would be a dive, not a glideslope. Landing approach descent slope is typically around 2 or 3. A steep approach, eg Berlin Tempelhof, would be 5.
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12 o
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Except the B-52 doesn't have ailerons - it uses the spoilers on the tops of the wings to drop one wing or the other when needed (for coordinated turns, etc.) The original poster's comment concerning how they crab the B-52 into crosswinds during landing is right on though - it's weird as hell watching one land with the fuselage noticeably not parallel to the runway unt
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Cuz that's sure what it sounds like you're saying...
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Though, it's not 90 degree angle, but something more like 15 degrees.
It is _creepy_ to watch. Like bending fingers way over backwards creepy. It just looks like something is wrong.
The only real world comparison I can think of is the motocross or rally races where cars or bikes catch air a lot, the driver aligns the front wheels with the direction of the car on landing to avoid rolling over or losing control.
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It's a technique known as "crabbing". You can do this with any aircraft to land in a stiff crosswind, but it really helps to have the wheels turned. Otherwise you've got to be johnny-on-the-spot with releasing the rudder when you make touchdown. I almost put a C-152 in the ditch by not releasing the rudder on time...
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Also, flaps are for increasing lift, to allow for a lower stall speed and hence allow for lower landing speeds, not for staying parallel to runway.
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This was a later model modification to help the B-52's stability with low level flight at its new role as a low-altitude bomber. Formerly, the B-52 was a high altitude bomber and had a much less steep attack angle.
You should see the B-52 crab control at work. You haven't lived until you've seen a B-52 land in a blizzard with its nose pointed well to the right of the runway, even though it's still going down the runway's path.
I saw one almost spin out of control on landing once, too. That is a freaky sight.
Any other former bomb/nav in the house?
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I grew up on bomber air force bases and became an aeronautical engineer. I've seen lots of cross wind B52 landings and it always looks odd. The takeoffs are strange too since you dont see the lift coming until the plane just gets pulled into the air as the low pressure sucks it upwards. That is hard to explain to most people.
Dad got me up one morning at 4:30 and we drove in the staff car onto the flightline to
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The B-52 may be a bit goofy, but very effective, and definitly not something you want to have above you if your not on good terms with the US.
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http://s92270093.onlinehome.us/crmdevel/resourc
"On the 24th of June 1994, Czar 52, a B-52H assigned to the 325th Bomb Squadron, 92d Bomb Wing, Fairchild Air Force Base, WA, launched at approximate 1358 hours Pacific Daylight Time (PDT), to practice maneuvers for an upcoming airshow. The aircrew had the planned and briefed a profile, through the Wing Commander level, that grossly exceeded aircraft and regulatory limitations. Upon preparing to land at the end of the practice airshow profile, the crew was required to execute a "go-around" or missed approach because of another aircraft on the runway. At mid-field, Czar 52 began a tight 360 degree left turn around the control tower at only 250 feet altitude above ground level (AGL). Approximately three quarters of the way through the turn, the aircraft banked past 90 degrees, stalled, clipped a power line with the left wing and crashed. Impact occurred at approximately 1416 hours PDT. There were no survivors out of a crew of four field grade officers.
Killed in the crash were Lt Col Arthur "Bud" Holland, the Chief of the 92d Bomb Wing Standardization and Evaluation branch. Lt Col Holland, an instructor pilot, was designated as the aircraft commander and was undoubtedly flying the aircraft at the time of the accident. 4 The copilot was Lt Col Mark McGeehan, also an instructor pilot and the 325th Bomb Squadron (BMS) Commander. There is a great deal of evidence that suggests considerable animosity existed between the two pilots who were at the controls of Czar 52..
This was a result of Lt Col McGeehan's unsuccessful efforts to have Bud Holland "grounded" for what he perceived as numerous and flagrant violations of air discipline while flying with 325th BMS aircrews. Colonel Robert Wolff was the Vice Wing Commander and was added to the flying schedule as a safety observer by Col Brooks, the Wing Commander, on the morning of the mishap. This was to be Col Wolff's "fini flight," an Air Force tradition where an aviator is hosed down following his last flight in an aircraft. Upon landing, Col Wolff was to be met on the flightline by his wife and friends for a champagne toast to a successful flying career. The radar navigator position was filled by Lt Col Ken Huston, the 325th BMS Operations Officer."
We'll meet again... (Score:5, Funny)
"How many times have I told you boys that I don't want no horsin' around on the airplane?"
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(Lameness filter encountered. Post aborted! Reason: Don't use so many caps. It's like
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Hell, at that size, maybe they'd only be ~1Megaton, but WTF?
five or six of these, with scaled weapons, would that give enough plausible deniability?
"It appears the nuclear attack on (insert favorite islamic target here) was the work of a rogue group of RC modelers....
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http://www.wren-turbines.com/B52003WEB.jpg [wren-turbines.com]
you can get a better (bigger) estimate of its size from this one.
Space Cowboys? (Score:2, Interesting)
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There's plenty of room on the other side, unless maybe it was really cold and they're standing close together to keep warm.
Or perhaps the photographer has a nasty habit of skinning people alive unless they're in groups of two or more!
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And nukes don't scale the same way. There is a minimum amount of fissile material needed.
With some tweaking, and maybe the next size up in engine, you could probably squeeze a 50-100lb payload in this. Which convientely encompasses the old W54 warhead.
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Actually you *can* scale explosives, you can't (as the grandparent pointed out) scale the fission materials. If you don't have at least the "critical mass" (which is created by firing to sub-critical mass lumps together using conventional explosives) then you get a phfut rather than a bang.
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Looking at the video of it taking off, it taxies near some folks. My guess is the wingspan is 12 feet or so.
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Here's [wren-turbines.com] a static pic with people. Wingspan is quite a bit longer than 2x human height (6').
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Thanks for the info!
Now I *really* want one of the planes!
Mine doesn't look right (Score:5, Funny)
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Now all they need is a couple of model H bombs... (Score:3, Funny)
The airforce fact sheet (Score:5, Informative)
Intresting... (Score:3, Interesting)
I can even see "jetbelt" type devices being made out of such a thing, which would be sweet.
Well... (Score:5, Interesting)
I'll stick with my PA32R-300, thanks.
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Hi Paul! (Score:2)
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that is amazing
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Because "a couple more" would only provide 24 lbs of additional thrust.
KFG
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Looked into this... (Score:3, Informative)
The problem with them is that while the power-to-weight ratio (and thus max speed and altitude) is great, the fuel consumption is terrible, and to get reasonable fuel consumption and range you need to fly such high altitudes you need a pressurised cabin, further adding to the cost and complexity.
Expensive Hobbies (Score:4, Interesting)
I wish they had a video of the landing, I'd like to see that.
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I'd say "It was worth it! Just look at the fire ball!"
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(please, don't reply if you think I'm serious with this comment, because someone will point out that they are completely different scales and will start worrying that that won't work)
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I would guess that a model like that would be easier to fly than most smaller ones, precisely because its heft lends it stability (especially in windy conditions). Plus you wouldn't be hotdogging the B-52 the way you would with acrobatic models. So while the consequences of a crash are much greater, the likelihood of it occurring is lower.
And with eight turbines (wh
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Nice video, but .... (Score:5, Funny)
in-flight refueling? (Score:4, Funny)
They'd need to... (Score:5, Interesting)
This is why small GA aircraft use propellers, by the way.
Scaled Nuke for my B-52 (Score:4, Informative)
the W54 warhead should fit nicely in the bomb bay, although at 51lbs might be a little heavy.
The W54 warhead used on the Davy Crockett bazooka weighed just 51 pounds and was the smallest and lightest fission bomb (implosion type) ever deployed by the United States, with a variable explosive yield of 0.01 kilotons (equivalent to 10 tons of TNT, or two to four times as powerful as the ammonium nitrate bomb which destroyed the Alfred P. Murrah federal building in Oklahoma City on April 19, 1995), or 0.02 kilotons-1 kiloton. A 58.6 pound variant?the B54?was used in the Special Atomic Demolition Munition (SADM), a nuclear land mine deployed in Europe, South Korea, Guam, and the United States from 1964-1989.
Mirror (Score:4, Informative)
http://www.readingfordummies.com/Permanent/mirror
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looks like fun (Score:2, Funny)
B-52s are a cinch to make! (Score:5, Informative)
Amateurs... B-52s are simple to make; and cheap!
Layer the Kahlua, Amaretto, and Irish Cream into a shot glass in that order. After drinking, notice the Vapor Trails.
I mean, really, aren't they teaching ANYTHING in schools nowadays?
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1/3 shot Kahlua
1/3 shot Amaretto
1/3 shot Bailey's irish cream
Layer the Kahlua, Amaretto, and Irish Cream into a shot glass in that order. After drinking, notice the Vapor Trails.
Don't forget, you have to set fire to it before you drink it! (That's why its called a B52 - its go to down in flames! Yum and very warming!
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Kahlua
Baileys
Grand Marnier
in that order.
http://cocktails.about.com/library/recipes/blb5
Landing? (Score:5, Funny)
BUFF: B-52 Nickname (Score:2)
Long may she fly into the next two decades!
Yawn... (Score:3, Funny)
Double bonus points if the bomb it drops is being ridden by a scale-model Slim Pickens that emits a digitized rebel yell on the way down.
Seriously though, that is really friggin' cool.
~Philly
D'oh! (Score:2)
~Philly
Keep that schtuff on the downlow... (Score:2)
Keep that stuff quiet. Bush might get Blair to send in the Real Bombers.... [foxnews.com]
It's slashdot material? (Score:4, Interesting)
ALCM models would be cool (Score:2)
The weight of 2.6Oz (73g) wouldn't be a big drain on the plane. A small amount of fireproofing to the blast area would help as well.
Another nice variation would be to modify this to look like the EB52 in the Dale Brown novels
This looks oddly familiar... (Score:3, Interesting)
Unfortunately I can't remember the designers name (and it was just one guy doing this as a hobby) and I haven't been in contact since 1997.
Those were fun days though. I remember one day the guy brought in a turbine from a full size helicopter that he had got from somewhere (I never asked!) and we fired it up in a warehouse with four of use holding it down, just for fun! The miniture turbine was cool stuff though, we had to start it by firing propane through the front to spin it, and watch it flame when it was lit. Then the normal fuel was pumped in to make it go. I used to raise the temperature of the place by several degrees in about 2 minutes.
Happy days...
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