Star Trek: New Voyages, Downloadable Video 349
tm2b writes "What if you could make new episodes of the original Star Trek, with the same characters, worse acting (believe it or not), better special effects, and lower resolution? It seems that some fans secured the Roddenberry family's support for doing just that. They call it Star Trek: New Voyages and they've completed one full episode and and working on another to be released in August. They plan to pick up with the fourth year of the "five year mission," and the first episode can be downloaded in zipped WMV format. It's worth checking out if you can ignore acting that actually makes you yearn for the quality of the original cast. Personally, I love seeing what they can do rendering the old ST tech with modern CGI."
Torrent? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Torrent? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Torrent? (Score:4, Interesting)
A system like BitTorrent, but that could also be seeded with a list of URLs where the file is available online.
All copies of the software would work together, which each user automatically and optimally assigned different parts of the files to retrieve from the URLs. Using Content-Range: and those "seed" URLs, each user would download a different part to get things rolling. Then they would all work collectively to send those parts of the files back and forth between each other, until everyone has the whole file.
Re:Torrent? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Torrent? (Score:2)
Re:Torrent? (Score:5, Funny)
If you're still using that ancient unit, I really doubt you can get much better?
WMV (Score:4, Funny)
download, unzip, xine :) (Score:2)
timothy
*And they mean the one on my desk, a VIA Epia-M 900. Probably right, too, but the trailer played acceptably for me
*WORSE* acting??? (Score:4, Funny)
Oh.....come.....on.....I.....find that......hard....to.....believe!
Re:*WORSE* acting??? (Score:2, Funny)
Uhura calls out: No we're not...Thats Uranus!
Kirk: Ahhh come on! Surely....that joke is..... wearing a little thin!
Spock: I believe that is illogical captain, seeing as you are not wearing any pants
Yep, I miss the old Star Trek series.....
Re:*WORSE* acting??? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:*WORSE* acting??? (Score:4, Informative)
Starship Exeter: Done old-school style, and the actors are not that horrible to watch. I even feel nostolgic just watching it, pining for the good old days.
Hidden Frontier: Done with schnazzy new graphics, but the actors want to make you scream. I mean, apparently, Star Fleet's Weight-Loss Program just isn't as effective in TNG time or something. This show proves that very large people who can barely fit into obviously home-tailored uniforms still hs the ability to make me nauseous.
I'll have to check out the new episodes I haven't yet seen on Starship Exeter (last I checked before today they just had the first one completed and the next was still months away from production).
And for this new one, well, sheessh, it's just something else to kill yet more time with this evening.
Re:*WORSE* acting??? (Score:2, Informative)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084726/combined
What's next? (Score:5, Funny)
WARNING:Approaching Nerd Factor 9. . .
Seriously, though, I salute their courage and hard work. This can't have been simple to put together.
Re:What's next? (Score:5, Insightful)
They decided that going for the visual resemblence of TOS cast was more important than hiring (or recruiting, I'm sure tons of people would volunteer) people who actually can act to play the parts.
Personally, I'd rather see someone who looks nothing like shatner but is able to act play the part of kirk than watch a shatner-alike ham it up.
Re:What's next? (Score:2)
The problem with that is people that can do that have a talent they can make money with.
Re:What's next? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:What's next? (Score:2)
After visiting their site, and reading their FAQ (while slooowly downloading the trailer..) I read this direct quote...
Re:What's next? (Score:5, Funny)
Cap'n, I canna giv' ye Nerd Factor 9. The lassie weel only go 11 and up.
KFG
Hidden Frontier (Score:4, Interesting)
Are they trying to... (Score:5, Funny)
Star Trek DS9: "To boldly go... no where. We're on a freaking space station people. We stay stationary, people... that's our job - to be dull!"
Star Trek Voyager: "To boldly promote the worst captain ever! Yeah, Janeway - you go, girl. Magically know stuff that no one else does. Cool, baby!!!"
Star Trek Enterprise: "To boldly go and fuck up the entire timeline."
Give it up, already... this is just getting pathetic. Leave us with the good stuff and get rid of this marketing money-driven drivel.
Re:Are they trying to... (Score:2)
DS9 was ok...the second season with the Dominion was probably the best, but they lost their way with the series.
Never got into Voyager and I haven't seen one episode of Enterprise.
Re:Are they trying to... (Score:2, Insightful)
DS9 also had a better lead off than TNG, he first 3 seasons were god where the first 3 seasons of TNG were cheap sets, bad music, and weird camera shots.
Voyager just took the PCness of TNG to an entirly new level and it pissed me off.
Enterprise lost its way in he first season, and no that the 3rd season is over, I actually like what I saw. there might actually be a movie to come out of it like th
Re:Are they trying to... (Score:2)
But I do agree, it got better after Rodenberry no longer had any control over it.
But the crowning episodes in my mind was "The Inner Light" and "The Defector".
Ok, I'm really showing my geek-ness now.
Re:Are they trying to... (Score:4, Interesting)
Yeah, that was good. The best episode of the second season, IMHO. Q is always fun, and there's always good chemistry between Patrick Stewart and John de Lancie.
> Then "Measure of a Man" about Data.
I'm sorry. This really could have been a great episode, done right. But the "legal regulations" for Data's arbitration board were so utterly contrived, so completely ludicrous, that they made no sense whatsoever. Legal proceedings are at least putatively designed to dispense justice, not to cause Cdr. William Riker and the rest of the Enterpise crew the maximum amount of angst possible. They totally destroyed my suspension of disbelief (and I can usually take a lot in the direction). It just didn't work.
> Also the one about Prof. Moriarty was pretty good as I'm also a Sherlock Holmes fan.
Meh. I'm a Holmes fan myself, but I didn't care for it much. Possibly because I'm allergic to holodeck episodes.
> But the crowning episodes in my mind was "The Inner Light" and "The Defector".
"The Defector" was pretty good, and "The Inner Light" was one of the finest pieces of SF ever produced for television. But neither is second season, so they can't be used to argue the quality of the second season.
Chris Mattern
Re:Are they trying to... (Score:2)
I hated DS9. I saw it as a blatent B5 ripoff, so I never bothered to watch more than the occasional episode when nothing else good was on TV.
Never watched much of Enterprise.
N.
Re:Are they trying to... (Score:3, Funny)
Let's give 'em all a big round of applause, folks!
And Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan was the best movie.
Agreed, w
Re:Are they trying to... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Are they trying to... (Score:4, Interesting)
DS9 was much more interesting to me. Because they stay in place, there is a chance for political tensions to develop. Makes things a lot more interesting being able to fully explore relationships between ST cultures. In many ways it was the best trek for my tastes.
Voyager sucked. Cheese factor over the top even for trek.
Enterprise: let me explain this to you since you seem to find it so hard to understand: with time travel involved which is THE BASIS OF THE SERIES, you can't really have a fucked up timeline. There will be changes to it, but in the end I'm sure the timeline will be pretty much as we'd expect at the end of the show. Some things may happen earlier/later, but in general it will all work out. You and the other 5 guys that spout this on Slashdot every day are simply wrong.
I'm tired of you folks saying they should pack it in. You're wrong, there are plenty of us that still enjoy trek. If you can find any way to produce sci fi that doesn't cost money and require marketing, lay it out there for us. With your limited imagination though, I doubt you could come up with much.
Re:Are they trying to... (Score:4, Insightful)
You're defending Enterprise, and then turn around and accuse somebody of "lack of imagination"?
Re:Are they trying to... (Score:2)
I wouldn't say it lacks imagination. In any event, whether Enterprise does or does not lack imagination or whether I am willing to defend it doesn't have much impact on whether the cretin I was accusing of no imagination has any.
Re:Are they trying to... (Score:2)
time travel involved which is THE BASIS OF THE SERIES
I admit that I stopped watching Enterprise in the middle of the first season, but since when was time travel the BASIS of it? The BASIS was how Earth got started toward becoming the Federation. That they chose to make a time-travel plot come up a lot doesn't make it the basis for the show.
Re:Are they trying to... (Score:3, Insightful)
Enterprise is progressing towards the birth of the Federation.
We're getting to see first meetings... tellarians, andorians, klingons, romulans (though not shown). That is exactly what I expected from the series, and it's been a lot of fun seeing that aspect of it. The whole "expanse" arc I wasn't hot on to begin with since it really diverged from that, but they worked it out if you watched last season.
I don't know why you think they shouldn't have phasers.
As far as distances
The nerd test (Score:2)
I was about to write a 3 paragraph rant about how you're wrong about DS9. But I stopped for a moment and thought "why take it seriously?"
Well this is a bit of a dilemma. Am I a nerd for initially wanting to write that pointless rebuttal, or did I escape being a nerd by thinking "eh it's just a show, so what?"
Re:Are they trying to... (Score:5, Insightful)
Most of all, I liked DS9 because it didn't try to paint Starfleeters as such perfect, moral people, and didn't try to paint an idea that all problems can be solved in a week (or two). And I was tired of all the moral pontificating that TNG had, it was a better show when they were OFF the Enterprise, like on the homeworlds of other races.
Being on a station didn't seem to stop them from going places, they still had runabouts, went to numerous Gamma quadrant planets, and later, they did eventually get the Defiant.
DS9 is first rate! (Score:2, Insightful)
DS9 had the most human stories of all, and is in many ways the most original of all the shows following TOS. The scripts were terrific: well written and thought provoking; and the acting was most of the time really quite good.
I'm with you -- it's the best of all.
Re:Are they trying to... (Score:3, Funny)
I enjoyed Terry Farell and late Nichole Deboer as well.
I assume you mean " later Nicole deBoer". IMDB [imdb.com] certainly seems to think she's still alive.
Re:Are they trying to... (Score:2)
Re:Are they trying to... (Score:3, Insightful)
ST:TOS: To boldly go where no man has gone before ...
ST:TNG To boldly go where no one has gone before (PC version)
ST:DS9: To boldly stay in one place
ST:VOY To boldly go and get completely lost
And that's from before Enterprise, so I don't know where Enterprise would fit in. Perhaps `To bodly go and mess up the time-space continum?' :)
Re:Are they trying to... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Are they trying to... (Score:3, Interesting)
"They" are not doing anything. Its a private, not for profit group that is doing this, not the Copyright holders. The copyright holders (Eugene Roddenberry, son of Gene) have come in toward the last, and given alot of leeway because he feels the project is exactly what his father would want. Additionally, many talented people from the movie industry have donated (or near donated) their time for the project. The producers are paying for the entire project out of the
Re:Are they trying to... (Score:2)
Ironically, I thought DS9 actually did more exploring than later TNG. On DS9, they were always taking the runabouts through the wormhole and actually going where no one had gone before, whereas the typical plotline for a TNG episode was "We're on a routine mission delivering toilet paper to the outpost on Squeblakron 12" followed by either an omnipotent alien playing games with them, some systems malfunction which almost
Re:Are they trying to... (Score:3, Informative)
Haven't you been paying attention? According to Enterprise, history NEEDS a dumbass.
Re:Are they trying to... (Score:3, Interesting)
WMV (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:WMV (Score:5, Funny)
Really? Why? Or rather, why moreso than Quicktime?
Because... XVID (Score:2)
I'll just cower in the corner know while I get flamed for even suggesting a FOSS codec 'cuts the mustard'
How about a CC Theora+Vorbis for comparison? (Score:2)
I was thinking a Theora+Vorbis encoding would be interesting to compare with (now that Theora I is finalized, it's safe to encode movies in it [theora.org]). But I don't have the video file from which the WMV was made, and transcoding won't show off Theora or Vorbis. Perhaps someone who made the movie will read this and make a Theora+Vorbis encoding (it would be even nicer if it were licensed under a Creative Commons [creativecommons.org] license and packaged with a copy of the applicable license so we know we can legally share it with our
Re:WMV (Score:2)
Wget'ing veerryyy slowwwly in the background...
Re:WMV (Score:2)
Granted, it would be nice if both companies embraced open standards, but for now it's picking the lesser of two evils.
Re:WMV (Score:2)
+4 Insightful?! WMV == Bad no matter what? Eh?
It can reach an audience in the 10's of millions without needing to install new software. It has a decent compression rate. It's free to author it. Etc etc etc. Tool of the devil? Grow up.
The mirrors, they're all dead, Jim. (Score:2, Funny)
Re:The mirrors, they're all dead, Jim. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:The mirrors, they're all dead, Jim. (Score:3, Funny)
"Six Hours, sir."
"You have three. Make them count."
"Maybe I can reverse the polarity on the apache config file!"
"You do that."
Re:The mirrors, they're all dead, Jim. (Score:2)
New, horrible acting? (Score:4, Funny)
Ok, I admit it, I'm a troll.. I just can't help it. I like negative karma
Re:New, horrible acting? (Score:2)
Whew... (Score:3, Funny)
Seriously, all mirrors were slower than death already while the post was in the Mysterious Future...
Re:Whew... (Score:2)
If we just reconfigure the main subtransroute matrix, we can increase output 10x on our main destabilizer conduit and get everybody connected.....
Of course that will burn out our main deflector dish!
zip ? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:zip ? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:zip ? (Score:5, Informative)
If you don't zip then people can stream it off your server, if they end up watching it multiple time then that's additional bandwidth off your server, if you zip it they have to DL it and are more likely to just remember they have it localy and rewatch it from there.
zipping seemed stupid to me till I found this out.
Server Configuration (was Re:zip ?) (Score:3, Informative)
The need to tell their webserver to send
Re:zip ? (Score:4, Informative)
Probably to fix some stupidness with Microsoft's Media Player. Let's say you link to a
I thought I didn't understand slashdotting... (Score:5, Funny)
*phew*
The world hadn't gone crazy after all.
Erzatz Star Trek (Score:2, Funny)
Ob. quotes (Score:5, Funny)
Scotty, beam me down a zipped WMV file!
Sir, I just doanna 'ave the power!
Bones, what the hell happend to those mirrors? .torrent!
They're dead, Jim.
Can't you bring them back up?
Dammit, Jim, I'm a doctor not a
Not the first maybe not the worst acting :-) (Score:2)
Overnet/Edonkey links (Score:4, Informative)
Star Trek New Voyages Teaser.zip [ed2k]
Star Trek New Voyages act_1.zip [ed2k]
Star Trek New Voyages act_2.zip [ed2k]
Star Trek New Voyages act_3.zip [ed2k]
Star Trek New Voyages act_4.zip [ed2k]
Star Trek New Voyages Episode_Trailer.zip [ed2k]
Star Trek New Voyages Series_Trailer.zip [ed2k]
Someone post the Torrents pls!
Re:Overnet/Edonkey links (Score:3, Informative)
Here are the links (copy paste to your browser and they will trigger the d/l if you have the app installed and configured properly).
ed2k://|file|Star Trek New Voyages Teaser.zip|16636412|5efe45b60842aaa3f4f7538ed5b1e 0 90|
ed2k://|file|Star Trek New Voyages act_1.zip|21745192|c6d53b71f5a2af3a4b13af8d2dee534 6|
ed2k://|file|Star Trek New Voyages act_2.zip|20632051|03eaa80b912ed09dd08931ba9923c4a 1|
ed2k://|file|Star Trek New Voyages act_3
Re:Overnet/Edonkey links (Score:3, Informative)
After removing the spaces Slash inserted into them of course.
The crowd is wrong, as usual (Score:5, Insightful)
Trashing Shatner's and Nimoy's acting shows you're really sophisticated, one of the in-crowd. Like EVERYbody agrees they can't act, right?
Stop being a mindless sheep. There is nothing wrong with Nimoy's acting, and little to complain about in Shatner's. They're not Alec Guinness, but their performances in the original Startrek were perfectly adequate.
Thank you... (Score:2)
Re:Thank you... (Score:3, Interesting)
I think the only problem with Shatner's acting was that he couldn't seem to turn down his "stage presence". On TV he always looked like he was doing live theater and exaggerrating every word and movement "so the people in the back of the theater could [see|hear] it". Either he never realize
Re:Thank you... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:The crowd is wrong, as usual (Score:2)
Re:The crowd is wrong, as usual (Score:2)
Re:The crowd is wrong, as usual (Score:5, Interesting)
I saw an interview with him once where he said that whenever the camera stopped rolling, he would spontaneously burst into laughter or start crying. Maintaining Spock's emotionless facade took a lot of effort for him, he couldn't keep it up for long. Hell they had to write a "Data goes crazy" episode every now and again, I reckon that was just to keep Brent Spiner sane.
Captain's Log, Stardate 2004.48 (Score:5, Funny)
Recommend commendation for Ensign Sleesh Doot for identification and communication of this phenomena. Let us all hope we are all able to make it out to be able to see he actually gets it.
what would happen? (Score:4, Funny)
You would never, ever breed.
You might forget for a while having been beaten up for your lunch money as a kid.
You get to wear for a little while, clothes more fashionable than anything else you ever wear. (Them ST uniforms is sharp!)
Or THIS [somethingawful.com] could happen
Next time let's act smart! (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Next time let's act smart! (Score:3, Funny)
Congratulations! (Score:4, Insightful)
I think that only teams like them can offer something new and innovative...big companies are locked onto money chase. These guys can do anything, as long as they are doing it for hobby.
Whoopsie! (Score:2)
Or maybe it's just Kirk pulling a Kobayashi Maru. [c2.com]
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The tech geek connection (Score:4, Insightful)
What's really cool about this is that, as promised, the low price of quality digital video equipment and computer editing is really letting people chase their passions in this way, and the low cost distribution of the Internet is letting
That's really cool. All the snide comments about Trek creativity that some readers would undoubtable make aside, perhaps the promise of a creative renaissance in video fiction can actually be fulfilled. It doesn't matter if 99% is crap, a higher volume means more great stuff being created and it just becomes a matter of finding the great stuff.
May a thousand flowers bloom. Times a thousand.
Petition for Star Trek Topic on Slashdot (Score:5, Interesting)
I thought it was really cool. (Score:4, Interesting)
It felt authentic, in a way that everything after ST:TNG does not.
It's true, it's rusty. But they seem really comitted, and I think they're going to master this system that they've created.
I just have one major wish:
I really wish the audio were redubbed. Do the shots just using the microphones on the set, and then perform a seperate dubbing session, so that the sounds are clear.
Regardless of whether the audio is improved or not, I'm a dedicated fan now.
I haven't watched a Sci-Fi TV show in about 7 years. But I'm excited about these shows!
Working Torrent... (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Thanks for the warning! (Score:2)
Have some fun, it may be so bad it's good. Or has all the humor and fun been beaten out of our cynical society today?
Does anyone remember laughter?
Re:Thanks for the warning! (Score:3, Insightful)
In fact, why make anything anymore? I mean, everything has been done already. If I want action movie just watch Die Hard, if I want fantasy just watch LOTR, if I want comedy just watch Young Frankenstein.
If I want music just listen to Chuck Berry, everything else has been done before. I've listened to enough music to last a lifetime, pr
Re:Thanks for the warning! (Score:2)
Touche! I concede to defeat.
Re:Thanks for the warning! (Score:2, Funny)
To boldy where no one has gone before?
Re:BitTorrent link? (Score:5, Funny)
Kirk: "We've got to set up a torrent! The mirrors will die!"
Scotty: "They're dead already!"
New episodes of Star Trek (in any form) + Slashdot = server death. No way around it.
Re:BitTorrent link? (Score:2)
You would think that a bunch of nerds would have realized that BT exists, and that it would be the best way to distribute something like this.
Re:BitTorrent link? (Score:2)
And now that the servers are presumably being hammered into oblivion, there's no-doubt a server admin who's crying into his wafflecone as he frantically searches google to figure out how to get it installed/running.
That's one reason I really like the Azureus client - besides being a great downloading client, it can host it's own torrent server and is extremely easy to set-up & operate.
N.
Re:BitTorrent link? (Score:2)
Re:WMV sucks (Score:2)
Re:WMV sucks (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Aren't we all looking forward to (Score:2)
That movie is in perpetual development. If Duke Nukem Forever ever comes out, Star Wreck will be the joke that takes its place.
Re:Obligatory (Score:2)
You're talking about Dax and Worf, right?