Ten-disc 'Matrix' DVD Box Set Planned 530
squishey writes "The Matrix trilogy is to be released as part of a special ten-disc DVD boxset in time for Christmas, according to the DVD Times.
Out on December 12 and with an RRP of 44.99." Includes a lot of stuff you probably already own, and a few things you might want... like a version of Reloaded with the Enter the Matrix footage included.
44.99 != $ (Score:5, Informative)
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Yep (Score:4, Interesting)
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I listened to music during most of the movie though. That showed em.
Re:44.99 != $ (Score:5, Insightful)
Now I have switched my trust to Star Wars again and I am crossing my fingers and hoping that the name won't be something like: "Star Wars III - Jar Jar Binks Chronicles."
George, you are our only hope... (so basically where toast)
Re:44.99 != $ (Score:3, Interesting)
I have the first DVD as well, and only that thanks to the dreary and disgusting mess of the second two Matrix movies, in the same fashion that George Lucas succeeded in turning me off to Star Wars (I own zero Star Wars DVD's). The first Matrix was great, but never for the acting. It was a perfect fusion of sci-fi and kung fu, complete with the philosophical reflections on reality (think of the treatment of chi in kung fu here).
The secon
Re:Much cooler tag lines (Score:3, Interesting)
That line is actually a popular Chinese saying. Not sure it's a proverb or just a saying made popular by Kung-Fu flicks. In any case... nothing orginal here, move along.
Free your wallet, Neo (Score:5, Funny)
Re:44.99 != $ (Score:5, Funny)
6 disks too many. (Score:5, Insightful)
Ok, we have 3 disks there with plenty of room for commentary tracks. Then we can have an extra disk for the Animatrix shorts AND all the "Making Of" docs you want. There...saved ya 6 other disks. Something tells me that they're not filling up to full capacity the DVD's.
Re:6 disks too many. (Score:3, Insightful)
The new footage was filmed specially for the 'Enter the Matrix' video game, which takes place in parallel to the film, following the story of Niobe and Ghost. You see/help them do things such as playing catchup on the freeway chase, and going to the power plant to destroy it. The parallel ga
Re:6 disks too many. (Score:3, Informative)
Also, as the other poster said, it inserts the video game stuff.
Re:44.99 != $ (Score:5, Informative)
And I'm American. Sheesh.
Re:44.99 != $ (Score:4, Funny)
Yeah I learned that from Benny Hill, too.
Re:pound this (Score:5, Informative)
Since then it's all gone decimal. 100 pence to the pound.
Don't use google for your homework kids!
Re:pound this (Score:5, Funny)
Re:44.99 != $ (Score:3, Funny)
Dunno if I'd want to pay that much to get anything that includes Matrix Revolutions
Re:44.99 != $ (Score:5, Funny)
Ditto. I might even be tempted to pay to NOT get it
Daniel
For those wondering this isnt Region 1.... (Score:5, Insightful)
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10 DVDs? (Score:5, Funny)
There's a trilogy? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:There's a trilogy? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:There's a trilogy? (Score:3, Interesting)
Why even go that far? What was it about the first one that was underwear-tent-popping good?
I'm serious about this. What I saw was a flash in the pan that hardly survived a second viewing. What'd everybody else take out of it?
Re:There's a trilogy? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:There's a trilogy? (Score:5, Insightful)
I must have missed the part with the interesting philosophy. I saw Socrates repeated for the ten thousandth time. Socrates, Descartes, myself, and everyone else who has every though about what they know.
I like philosophy. I'm doubling in philosophy. But when someone says a film has a lot of good philosophy in it, I generally expect to see some ideas that haven't been mainstream for 2,000 years and haven't been rehashed in half the science fiction previously written.
The other two made decent action films. I actually prefered them. They weren't great, but at least they didn't waste all their time rehashing trite scifi storylined. Well, they didn't seem as trite.
My brother (not an action fan, but certainly a scifi fan) summed up The Matrix fairly well, I though: they discover that this is all a big illusion and nothing in the simulation is real. So they get a bunch of not-real guns and shoot all the not-real stuff. WTF?
(Probably is better on the big screen. Oh well. Too late now, I suppose.)
Re:There's a trilogy? (Score:3, Insightful)
Why would you expect that? Has there ever been a movie that met your philosophy quotas? Would even Waking Life make the cut? None of the ideas in that moving are something you wouldn't hear a philosophy 101 undergrad say. Pure ideas simply don't render well into visual medium.
The Matri
Re:There's a trilogy? (Score:4, Interesting)
Maybe its just me, but I can still tell very, very easily when they switch over from meatspace people to 3d models in most movies, and somehow my eyes gloss over at the 3d human substitutes. Spiderman 2 was the only movie where I had difficulty telling, and that was because his costume is so inhuman looking already. In Harry Potter, LoTR, Van Helsing, and Matrix 2,3, all the CG scenes somehow just don't grip me the way the real meatspace scenes do. Its different in older movies where the CG was only used for wholly inhuman things, or in all-CG movies where the CG version _is_ the character, but in new movies where CG is just used for impossible stunts - it just becomes ignorable.
New transfer (Score:4, Interesting)
Personally, the dark green and blue of the two sequels gave me headaches, but hey, hopefully the first one won't look bad, and it'll be a much cleaner transfer and probably include a new audio mix.
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But... (Score:5, Funny)
Wow (Score:2, Funny)
10 discs? (Score:3, Interesting)
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Re:10 discs? (Score:4, Funny)
Fo-Shizzle!
Re:10 discs? (Score:3, Funny)
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=95 0 20&cid= 8149141
But of course we must honor the best quotes from each of the three movies:
The Matrix:
Context: Morpheus jumps a massive gap between two skyscrapers
Neo: Whoa.
Reloaded:
Context: Neo throws a smith out of the battle, where he lands, hard.
Smith: More!
More context: (More smiths charge in)
Revolutions:
Context: Neo runs out of the train station, off to the left, and we see him come back into the train station on
Re:10 discs? (Score:5, Informative)
The ten discs seem to be:
And here is HMV's list of special features for the new discs:
THE MATRIX
MATRIX RELOADED
MATRIX REVOLUTIONS
THE ANIMATRIX
THE ROOTS OF THE MATRIX
THE BURLEY MAN CHRONICLES
Re:10 discs? (Score:5, Insightful)
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34 minutes of which will probably be an extension to the original "Dance Party Zion".
*long shudder*
If only... (Score:4, Insightful)
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After a while it became really painful to watch those CGI'd smith and neo fights that would just drag on forever and had action similar to what a 10 yr old might daydream during english class. It went beyond the "matrix" physics and just became absurd. Everyone was so powerful there was no suspense.
Re:If only... (Score:3, Insightful)
Obligatory DBZ joke (Score:4, Funny)
Only one, but it takes three episodes.
Re:If only... (Score:5, Interesting)
First, I will not apologize for any of the crappy Zion dialogue. The best I can say for that is that dialogue was in thankfully short supply down there. But the fight down there was breathtaking. It was expertly conceived and executed. I couldn't take my eyes off the screen if I wanted to.
And the interplay between Neo and Smith was great. The fight was classic unstoppable force impenetrable barrier in the style of a lot of anime and American comic books. The resolution was both classic and unexpected; the only way to win was to give up.
Speaking of giving up, I think a lot of the bad feelings over the third film were because people gave up after the underwhelming second film. Perhaps the third doesn't "make up" for the second, but how could it? Watch it again and you just may find you actually like it on it's own merits.
TW
Re:If only... (Score:5, Insightful)
Yes, it was good the way the squids all poured in through this one hole, and the humans all stood stock still and shot at them... and more squids came... and the humans kept shooting... and more squids came and the humans shifted position veeeery slightly, and kept on shooting, just shooting and shooting and shooting until you wonder whether the budget simply didn't stretch to any other sound effect, and then they shoot some more...
Gripping stuff!
Re:If only...Amen! (Score:5, Insightful)
Agreed. Here is a tip - don't stand in line for these things at the theater. I saw the first one and frickin loved it. Saw the second one, and left kind of scratching my head. I had to hope that the third one would tie it all up. But I waited, and didn't go see it in the theater. I read all the bad reviews. Then I rented it - and thought it was better than the 2nd one. It wasn't THAT bad. Not great, but better than a lot of the reviews I read.
Everyone talks about the "movie theater experience", but I just don't get it. Other than bigger and louder, the theater experience just is not as good to me. No, I am not one of those people with the 5.1 surround and a 60" TV. I have basic surround and a 27" TV, and I still enjoy movies more at home than at the theater. Cheaper food, more comfortable, I can go pee without missing any of the movie, etc. I don't need to share the experience with a hundred other people.
Re:If only... (Score:3, Interesting)
Of course, the funny thing is that the fights in the first movie were already absurd, at least from the perspective of someone not already exposed to lots of kung-fu movies.
Come to think of it, the fight scenes in almost all movies are absurd; we just take
Re:If only... (Score:3, Funny)
It worked on me anyway, at first I believed I had watched two totally shit movies, after much deliberation I decided it was actually the exact same shit twice!
Enter the Matrix footage... (Score:3, Insightful)
Disc Four: Matrix Reloaded Revisited? (Score:3, Funny)
That price seems awfully cheap for a ten disc set though.
Finally... (Score:5, Funny)
great (Score:5, Funny)
Will this sell? (Score:5, Interesting)
As far as all the geeks I know here say, the last movie SUCKED (or WAS TEH SUCK).
Are there enough remaining fan boys who loved the series the justify a purchase like this?
I know that for Lord of The Rings a 40 disc box set (including a full disk of Viggo Mortensen clearing his throat in the morning) would be snapped up in a jiffy by everyone here (*well, everyone but the Tolkein die hards).
Like the acting.. (Score:5, Funny)
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Suitable for burial. Unmarked gravestone not included.
-Adam
Enter the matrix (Score:4, Interesting)
Trinity (Score:5, Funny)
"Neo"
"Yes"
"Lets act out MacBeth before I die.....one last time!"
"Hark!"
Rooting for Death (Score:3, Funny)
Revisionist history (Score:4, Funny)
Milking the franchise (Score:3, Interesting)
A few things we might want, such as: (Score:5, Funny)
- A version of Revolutions that doesn't suck horribly
- An ending not designed to make one violently ill
- A box set that comes with two free movie tickets to any other movie, as a means of apologizing for the money wasted on Reloaded
- Rather then taking up all this space, a box set that only features stuff worth watching.
Oh wait, we already have that last one. Its called the first movie!
10 discs sounds a lot (Score:5, Funny)
Torture Regiment (Score:4, Funny)
20 Hours of Matrix footage + 4 hours of sleep a day would work out to a pretty nice punishment for murderers.
Of course, the Trinity death scene would be removed due to 8th amendment considerations.
Basic ROM Features? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Basic ROM Features? (Score:4, Insightful)
Enter the Matrix footage (Score:4, Interesting)
Does it bother anyone else... (Score:5, Interesting)
A colleague of mine said "Well, you're paying the extra money for the extra DVD content." Hmmmm. Shouldn't movies now be marketed as "Movie Theater Edition" or something?
Re:Does it bother anyone else... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Does it bother anyone else... (Score:4, Interesting)
I wonder if we'll ever see a long commercial film released again in the US that actually contains an intermission. You'd think that with the money made at concession stands, this wouldn't be a bad idea...
Re:Does it bother anyone else... (Score:5, Informative)
The difference these days is that where the studios used to take all that extra film and throw it in the trash (or stuff it in poorly-maintaned warehouses where a lot of old footage has rotted away or -- I'm not joking -- been eaten by rats) now it's preserved and put on DVD for interested viewers.
Yeah, there are a few movies like the LotR trilogy where the director shoots a scene knowing full well that it's intended for the DVD. And I suppose given its financial success, we may see additional "shoot some extra scenes for the video game" cases like Matrix Reloaded. But the vast majority of deleted scenes on DVDs are simply the result of the absolutely ordinary process of editing a movie into shape.
When it comes on again, try watching "Project Greenlight" if you want an illuminating view of what a director goes through and how much of the intended film actually ends up on screen. I believe I heard they're doing a low-budget horror movie for the next project, which ought to be fun.
Re:Does it bother anyone else... (Score:3, Interesting)
It's not always the case that directors have to be "forced" to cut their films. Many are good judges of pacing and story who enjoy and embrace the trimming process, and can be quite ruthless on their own. For instance, Ridley Scott [imdb.com] considers his original 1979 theatrical cut of Alien [imdb.com] the best version, and was not forced into it by any stretch of the imagination. (See his intervi
Re:Does it bother anyone else... (Score:5, Insightful)
The movies theaters are for showing the "film as it was meant to be shown to the masses" not the "film as intended by the director".
Movie theaters exist because home theaters are very expensive and it's more cost effective to see the movie in the theater than to invest in a good home setup.
Just as the movie industry had to change with the introduction of videotapes, they will again have to change when home theaters are less costly and more common.
But the upshot is that a movie theater is set up to have a fixed ticket price per movie. Some movies will never go longer than 1.5 hours, and others will require 3 hours or more. Theaters are not set up for graduated pricing, and they make significantly less money showing a longer film than showing a shorter one unless it also runs for several weeks longer and attracts a steady audience.
Theaters will not show long films that are not guranteed to draw huge audiences. Producers know this and force directors to cut films to a reasonable length. Directors, knowing that they will "always have the DVD", do so reluctantly and then polish the film for the extended DVD release. Did you notice how LoTR 1 played in theaters for weeks longer than LoTR 3? There's a cost/benefit ratio here. If you want to see the movie as the director intended (given the budget they had) then you buy the extended edition. Consumers are happy, fans are happy, studios make millions, and the smurfs escape from gargomel once again.
So don't feel cheated. You're paying $9 for a $9 experience. This is the edition the director expected you to spend $9 for. Remember that the directors and the theaters are at the mercy of the movie studios/producers. If you don't like it, then spend time writing letters and faxes to the studios - both when they do good and when they do bad. But don't blame the theater owners when they start raising prices across the board to accomodate the one or two movies a year that are 4 hours long.
Remember that we American Consumers like our flat rates.
-Adam
Re:Does it bother anyone else... (Score:5, Insightful)
Take, for example, "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" which I saw the week it was released back in the late 70's. As many know, the "theater edition" was very different from the "special edition" now available on DVD. OK, I'll concede that my liking the theater edition MAY be due to seeing it first, but the tone and mood of the "theater edition" is very different from the "special edition"--I personally prefer the "theater edition".
Additionally, the "theater edition" is/was the edition that the critics and viewers reviewed and talked about. It was the edition that made the press. It was the edition that won the awards. It was the edition that made the studio its money. Do we now have to have Oscars for after-market releases? (Maybe they do--I rarely watch awards shows anyway.)
And the kicker is that the theater edition (and not just of "Close Encounters") of movies is often not available on DVD, only the "director's cut". These "special" or "director's" editions continue to be available, but the editions that launched it all disappears. While I certainly embrace the ability to see what the director "really wanted" and the extra content is typically worth the price of the DVD, I feel like it's a form of re-writing history.
useless matrix (Score:4, Insightful)
It's much better value and probably will last you a lifetime copared to this inept excuse for a movie.
Re:useless matrix (Score:5, Interesting)
PS Side note... While writing this post I just realised that Dick and Gibson are/were essentially emmigre Americans who live(d) in Vancouver, BC. I wonder if its the rain that alters their perceptions of reality in such creative ways?...
party footage? (Score:4, Funny)
Does this mean that we'll finally be able to see the end of the "Cavern Dance" party??? I've been wondering how that turned out...
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The open source disk set (Score:3, Funny)
Self-replicating comments (Score:3, Funny)
Look... an endless stream of near-identical
The only way to defeat them is to stand still and wave a rubber pole at them for something like twenty minutes.
I only hope I can manage that before they morph into a more powerful strain of
To those mouthing off (Score:3, Interesting)
Granted, it could be said subjectively that the first Matrix movie was the best of the trilogy, but quite frankly, it makes me very annoyed that people would have the gall to badmouth the series the way they do. Is the Matrix Trilogy a cinematic classic that will be taught and lauded for decades to come? Short answer, no. But the way most of you geeks blab on and on about the piss-poor quality of the movies, you'd think that given the helm, and a word-processor that whatever "film," you produced would rise above the level of tripe.
Before I am flamed, I undertsand that everyone does have their own opinion, and is entitled to that opinion, but because a movies didn't follow the path you thought they would, doesn't make it utter shit. They (the Wachoski *siblings*) were able to make something very philosophical, even if it wasn't Pantheon worthy, while at the same tiem incorporating enough so that the mundanes would actually enjoy it. Add to that decent characterization, and a sustained theme throughout all three movies.
Personally, I found the second movie, sans dance sequence, to be the best of the bunch. Even though the computer graphics were a bit over the top, it did give much to think about. Did everyone forget the discussion with the Architect was in there? And that he essentially gave the whole philosophical underpinnings to the movies in the tirade? I could understand how many people would not understand the philosophy, but to you computer nerds, its rooted in math!!!
To those who say the ending sucked at the end of the third, I have no comment. Yes, it was something of a flaccid penis instead of the money shot, but look at it in relation the rest of it. Neo is the 1. Not the ONE, or One, but the 1. The Matrix is an equation, or rather supposed to be a balanced equation. The Architect spells out that because of a flaw, a 1 results in the equation, and manifests itself in the Matrix. Neo. I know everyone may already know this, but keep with me. When Neo talks with the Oracle, she says that Smith is his opposite, due to the Matrix trying to balance itself. Hmmm, Neo, is one...Smith is...? -1. Period. Therefore, neither of them can really *win* they can only beat themselves into battered pulps. Neo realizes this, and stops fighting. Yea, even dumbass Neo realizes it. Now, to all you advanced theoretical math types that prowl these forums, 1+(-1)=?
Ahh, the balancing of the Matrix.
Weak? Maybe. Deus ex Machina? Certainly not. They cement reasons that everything happened, even though it may not have happened as you would have fantasized. So I reiterate what I said again, this time as a challenge. To those mouthing off, make something, or even just conceptualize something that you think is better than the Matrix concept. Add to that, how you would execute it. Until then, just shut your mouths and read a book.
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So what're they gonna call the box set? (Score:3, Insightful)
Seems more like a ploy to recoup costs on the third movie. Anybody else notice when the third movie came out on DVD they weren't pushing the movie for movie sake, but trying to capitalize on the "own the trilogy" angle?
Some people will collect anything.
Personally, I like to collect bad habits.
Brits were shortchanged on the original DVD (Score:3, Informative)
For the DVD, we lost the 'music only, no dialogue' bonus soundtrack that was present on the other region 2 DVDs entirely, because they couldn''t be bothered syncing up that version of the audio or finding 1 one-second bits to splice into the fights.
Not getting it (Score:3, Interesting)
I got my copies of The Matrix and The Animatrix used at Blockbuster; two for twenty dollars. Why would I want the other two films, both of which were abyssmal?
Re:Last Flight of the Osiris? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:That's sweet... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:That's sweet... (Score:3, Insightful)
The Wachowskis/Peter Jackson will release the version "they really wanted to make", after the royalties start drying up(though Jackson will be able to beat this horse for a while with the release of The Hobbit). I could see a redo of the battle of Pelennor Fields, or maybe the attack of the Ents at Isengard(that sequence bothered me).
Unlike Lucas and the original triogy, the Wachowskis can't make the new versions any worse than the original release.
Re:That's sweet... (Score:3, Interesting)
You mean like they did with Revolutions and Reloaded? Oh wait, they didn't. There are no collector's editions.
And of course, this is exactly like LOTR where the producers told everyone straight up that there would be a standard edition and an extended edition for each movie.
Not to mention that it wasn't exactly difficult to predict that box sets would become available for The Matrix trilogy
Re:Admit it - the sequels are actually really cool (Score:3, Interesting)
Trinity getting to see the sun and cloud tops drove home the idea of having always lived underground and never seeing daylight.
Re:Admit it - the sequels are actually really cool (Score:4, Interesting)
Hell, she wore sunglasses almost the entire time. What were they for?
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Re:Admit it - the sequels are actually really cool (Score:4, Insightful)
The Merovingian, the French guy, says it while he's analyzing what is cause and effect in the restaurant. My friend did see the movie, it's just that at that time everyone was checking out Monica's big and large "assets", and failed to listen to this, may I say, quite interesting and beautiful comparison.
Now when one says "the philosophy" of the movies, I guess most people just hear that, "the philosophy", which they'll probably think it's the whole "humans vs machines", and should we create or not create machines, because one day they may turn against us.
But that's not all "the philosophy", specially since the sequels introduced many more themes, themes which for the majority of the viewers seem to be pretty much inexistent, themes like cause and effect, what makes us tick, why we do the things we do, also choice, explored in the first movie, is grandly expanded in the sequels.
There's also exploration on the themes of ressurection, the whole science aspect of the Matrix, how it works, the reaching of the Nirvana state, the choice to sacrifice oneself as so many did in the movies, like Trinity, the Oracle, Neo, the parents of the girl Sati, Captain Mifune (the captain of the mechs).
Now most of these themes make sense to think about in the world today, we see in the movies people who are capable of giving themselves up for others, something badly needed in our world, a sense of sacrifice for another. I can't see how that is meaningless.
I mean, the whole point of view on love by the program Rama Kandra, father of the little girl, isnt that just great, how these AI's that have been living amongst a human community seem to better understand concepts that we thought belong only to us!
Also I fail to grasp how the majority of the geek community doesn't appreciate the many nods to programming and to guys like us, for instance with the introduction of the grand white hallway in the matrix, like a backdoor way, a programmer's maintenance corridor, or the Architect, who sees himself as the master programmer, or the usage of an appropriate hacking tool when Trinity hacks the powerplant power rerouting, or even the whole deification of Neo, who started out this journey as a simple cubicle worker, maybe even checking out slashdot.org now and then!
Then there's the whole symbolism bit, which I do believe many of you wouldn't like exploring, because it's based on free association, there aren't rules, basically you just see something in the movie that could be similar to something else, and you make a connection, it becomes a symbolism, it means something, there's a point to be made there.
The symbolism may mean zip to you, but for me and my essay on the movies, it was a very important way of making and stating my points, basing myself on metaphors introduced in the movies.
And also another thing, the music, these movies have some of the best musical scores ever, specially Revolutions, with Neodammerung topping everything, I mean it's like a Wagnerian Opera with hindu lyrical chorus, that were taken straight from the Upanishads, sort of the Bible for Hinduism, and each and every line makes a point, it means something, like the first three who speak about each of the movies, and then the lyrics evolve into describing the One, the unification of all, and this exploration, this dissertation in hindu helps the viewer who is interested make sense on the choices and the why of Neo letting himself go in the final battle, accepting his destiny like a regular program would.
Basically, while Thomas Anderson took the red pill, to get out, Neo took the blue pill in the end, he sees the good in the virtual world, sees how they can change it and change the
Now I know why I thought it sucked. (Score:3, Funny)
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