Titanic Director to Make Battle Angel Movie 209
thelizman writes "Director James Cameron, who gave us the Terminator movies (I, II, III) , Aliens, The Abyss, and brought Dark Angel to the small screen will give us a new treat. According to AP, Cameron will direct a live action + cgi movie based on the Battle Angel Alita (GUNNM) book series. Slated for release in 2005-06, the movie will be available in 3D as well as 2D versions. Cameron will be using 3D technology developed for IMAX films to deliver the 3D versions (and on IMAX maybe?). Another twist is that the lead character will be CG, while other roles will be filled by live actors." Update: 11/25 22:42 GMT by T : Sunny Dubey writes "Terminator 3 was *not* directed by James Cameron. It was directed by Jonathan Mostow."
Worst Wikipedia Entry Ever! (Score:5, Informative)
Long story short... (Score:2, Interesting)
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I can't bear to watch... (Score:2)
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One more point: Don't just watch the Anime, the Manga goes in to so much more detail--we actually get to see what life is like in the flying city. The ending is bizarre and a half, but that's not uncommon for manga.
Wikipedia is user modifiable (Score:2)
Do you want to include this text in Wikipedia's entry, if the author allows you to do it ?
(And if so, try to do this, before the article gets write protected due to slashdot-related vandalism)
Abyss!; Battle Angel? (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Abyss!; Battle Angel? (Score:5, Interesting)
Personally, I would be surprised if Cameron can do justice to the series.
Re:Abyss!; Battle Angel? (Score:2)
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In any case, none of what you say up there refutes my points on Aliens, if anything you are simply re-inforcing what I said about the film. Your first point about a franchise is also stupid, because as soon as you make a second film you have a franchise - easy en
Re:Abyss!; Battle Angel? (Score:2)
uh// (Score:1, Informative)
James Cameron didn't do T3, it was only based on characters he and gail Anne Herd had created.
First impressions (Score:5, Interesting)
Also, speaking of CG -- I have nothing against CG in general, but the idea of a CG main character fills me with a vague boredom and distaste rather than excitement. As a gimmick, it already feels played out. Gosh, MORE distracting computer graphics in a movie, you say? More actors making wooden deliveries to green screens and teamsters waving flags for them to react to? Sign me up!
I would rather see CG used in the environment where it really thrives -- animated films. I don't mean that CG should try to emulate reality as closely as possible -- you just end up with The Uncanny Valley [arclight.net], and the animation will displease people without them ever being able to put a finger on why (it will just look "bad").
I think CG has tremendous potential to show us things that can't be emulated in real life -- and make it look better than it ever has before. I don't think re-hashing an anime title is really going to fit that particular bill. Instead, we see people attempting to make CG look as realistic as possible, which has the effect of making it both "unrealistic" (i.e. distinguishable from reality), and kind of banal. Why would I want to see an animated Jonny Quest jumping onto the back of a moving train, when I can see Jackie Chan do it for real?
A lot of animated shows have added CG to the traditional forms of animation, and seen some tremendous success. I'd rather see the technology go in that direction.
Re:First impressions (Score:2)
I suppose this can be an attempt to emphasize the main character even more... in addition, the Panzer Kunst technique that Gally (Alita) uses in the manga cannot possibly be rendered on screen without using CG IMHO.
On the other hand, one of the greatest assets of the manga was to underline the deeper feelings of the character and put them in c
Re:First impressions (Score:2, Informative)
Just a little bit of info on the movie: I think it's a remake of the orignal Appleseed OVA made in 1988, which was based off the manga. It was created by Masamune Shirow, so all you Ghost in the Shell fans better check it out.
AniDB entry here [anidb.ath.cx].
There are trailers here [a-seed.jp].
This is one movie I
Re:First impressions (Score:2)
Popular Science ran an article about an interesting guy that's working to beat the odds.
Re:First impressions (Score:2)
What makes Gunnm so strong is that it has outstanding combat without the combat being its strong point. That is, the emotions and the storyline are more important than the action, but the action is still excellent.
Cameron is a great director and he might be able to do j
Re:First impressions (Score:3, Insightful)
That's probably why James Cameron is choosing this project. So far noone has been able to create a convincing CG human character. The last sincere effort at trying this was Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within (2001) which was a flop at the box office. Many critics attribute the film's failure to the 'wooden' acting and 'doll-like' eyes of the
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Maybe it wasn't Affleck. Maybe that scene should have been shot in black and white.
After seeing Dark Angel.. (Score:1)
Cameron didn't do T3 (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:Cameron didn't do T3 (Score:5, Funny)
I can just see the trailer now... animated words flying out at the screen:
"This summer... continuity.... is... history!"
Re:Cameron didn't do T3 (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Cameron didn't do T3 (Score:2)
Believe me, if they made a movie that was essentially the first five minutes of T2 for an hour and a half, I'd be happy to eat my words.
Re:Cameron didn't do T3 (Score:2)
"instead we got Terminator With Tits."
Er, what's wrong with that?
I bet if skynet made all the Terminators hot women, the war would of been over in a week.
"Hey, it's a squad of hot chicks...with pizza and beer!"
Re:Cameron didn't do T3 (Score:3, Interesting)
From what I remember of T2 and T3 when the Governator talks about the future, wholesale human slaughter did not begin right away. It took a few years for Skynet to build enough Terminators to wage full scale war against humanity. I think T4 will cover the time between Judgment Day and the war. That would make the most sense. Of course, after T3, does it need to make sense? Apparently not, after Johnathan Mostow introduced a few paradoxes into the story line. Oh well. As long as it is violent it will sell.
Re:Cameron didn't do T3 (Score:2)
Don't send back the terminator, Kyle Reese doesn't get sent back, JC isn't fathered, no saviour!
And Dark Helmet said evil triumps because good is dumb
Re:Cameron didn't do T3 (Score:2)
The terminator technology doesn't come from anywhere. It was not designed by a human mind, but is entirely an artifact of a time-loop. The terminators are based on a chip from a terminator that was sent back in time. The development cycle has no beginning.
Re:Cameron didn't do T3 (Score:2)
Dude...that would rock!
What I want to know is how the machines build anything. All Skynet has at this point are the flying robots and the battle robots. Neither of them can do anything along the lines of picking up a screwdriver.
Cameron practically denounced T3. (Score:5, Interesting)
Indeed, you can see in the wildly different styles of direction in T1/T2 vs T3 that James Cameron had no part in T3's production.
Also of note is that Arnie was refusing to play the Terminator again in T3 unless Cameron was the director. Ultimately, Cameron told Arnie to do the film but make sure he got an extortionate ammount of money for doing so.
Umm, no he didn't... (Score:2, Insightful)
I'd like to think that nomatter what you think of Cameron at least he was smart enough to not touch T3 with a 50 foot pole.
Re:Umm, no he didn't... (Score:2)
I mean come on, the poster says Cameron had something to do with T3 and he didn't. It was factually incorrect. I must of offended some jackass that thinks T3 was written by god.
Re:Umm, no he didn't... (Score:2)
But you're right, with the way the moderators work here I may get a +5 funny.
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needs more clarification (Score:2)
As far as the character being CG, that has been a bit vague. It's not like the whole part will be CG through out but they use an actress and use CG to enhance her/ digital double when needed.
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The Machines Of Terminator 3 [popularmechanics.com]
It would probably be all CG for the more extreme shots like what Imageworks did on Spider-Man 2.
Re:needs more clarification (Score:3, Informative)
The quote I heard from him was along the lines of "at least they can't do to the Terminator franchise what Alien 3 did to the characters and story I created for Aliens." I guess that *might* be considered a blessing.
Oh gee, James Cameron (Score:1, Interesting)
I don't trust Hollywood anymore. Even if the director made some quality action movies in the 80s, I'm still expecting this butchered.
Who came up with this headline? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Who came up with this headline? (Score:2)
I think there's plenty of geek movies listed in the write-up. Terminator and Aliens are pretty dated as franchises, and Titanic is Cameron's last mainstream feature film. From a certain perspective, it makes sense to list it first. I guess they could have said "From the director of Expedition: Bismarck"...
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I find victorian era technology facinating - it would have been awesome to see and hear the ship's four story high reciprocating steam engine with their immense pistons chugging away at top speed.
At the risk of being modded offtopic, a set of Titan
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Re:Who came up with this headline? (Score:5, Interesting)
Someone like that is more likely to be a Microsoft girl - nice looking user interfaces, but not very dependable. Go get another.
Re:Who came up with this headline? (Score:3, Insightful)
OK. Will get modded down to oblivion for this but I got karma to spare and besides what I'm about to say is the truth. I'm not trolling. The Cameron movie that to me MOST closely resembles Terminator is in fact Titanic. The similarities are striking. If you bother to go deeper than the robots killin stuff part you'll see what I mean. OK here's my list
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Wasn't the water in Titanic rendered on a Linux cluster? If so, well there ya go.
Cheers
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Re:Who came up with this headline? (Score:2)
Cameron is now an institution, and like all hide-bound big-money institutions, now he couldn't make a decent product if he tried. He is the symbol of what is wrong with Hollywood. He's totally lost it since he split with the
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Live action + cgi (Score:2)
James Cameron guest-editor of current Wired issue (Score:5, Interesting)
Here's an excerpt from Cameron's intro piece [wired.com], which I found to be quite powerful:
Space is a vacuum. There is, by definition, nothing there. When we talk about exploring space, we really mean exploring the objects careening around in space - planets, moons, the occasional comet. So space is a hurdle, an ocean that must be crossed to reach a destination. Unfortunately, for three-quarters of the space age it has been treated as a destination in and of itself.
The last time humans crossed space to a destination was the Apollo 17 mission in 1972. In the 32 years since, no man has seen, with his own eyes, Earth as that beautiful, solitary blue sphere, and - reality check - no woman has ever seen it at all. We've been only to low Earth orbit since 1972, and from that altitude of 220 miles, looking at the 7,900-mile-diameter Earth is like peering at a basketball with your cheek pressed against it. Yes, you'll see curvature, but you're not seeing the whole thing. We've spent 32 years "exploring space" in low Earth orbit. Exploring nothing. To stay in orbit you have to go 17,000 mph, or Mach 25. So we've spent three decades going nowhere fast.
It's taken people a long time to wake up to this fact, but we finally have. Now Exploration with a capital E is in the air again, in what will hopefully become some kind of renaissance. Eleven billion hits to NASA's Web site during the Spirit and Opportunity rovers' exploration of Mars is an astounding groundswell of support. NASA is still blinking in surprise, trying to figure out why people love the rovers yet care less about the construction of the International Space Station than a new interchange outside Cleveland. It is only now sinking in that one is exploration and the other is, well construction.
If the next step is to send humans to Mars, then we must reexamine our culture of averting risk and assigning blame. We don't need any miracle breakthroughs in technology. The techniques are well understood. Sure, it takes money, but distributed over time it doesn't require any more than we're spending now. What is lacking is the will, the mandate, and the sense of purpose.
Something interesting is happening right now as you're reading this. NASA is scrambling, under presidential orders, to prepare for a renewed vision of human exploration beyond Earth. They've generated a plan, and it's a good one. I've sat on the NASA Advisory Council for the past 18 months, which is surely the most interesting period since the Apollo days. NASA administrator Sean O'Keefe has fundamentally reorganized the agency. NASA is figuring out post-shuttle solutions to get people into orbit, how to do the heavy lifting to get big payloads (like interplanetary vehicles) up there, and all the other critical tasks to create human exploration space-systems architecture.
The public understandably asks how this will be paid for. The answer comes with some good news and some bad. The bad news is that space shuttle operations and space station construction and operations (in other words, current human spaceflight) is sucking up about $8 billion of NASA's $15 billion annual budget. The good news is that when the shuttle is retired (2010) and the space station completes its mission (2014), $8 billion a year will be freed up without adding a dime to the NASA budget. Over time, one funding wedge tapers, and the other widens. From 2014 to 2024, you've got a cool $80 bil to send folks to Mars.
The problem is that government projects are subject
Dupe (Score:2)
Slashdot had an article [slashdot.org] on this last week.
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The huzzah and the oh noes! (Score:2)
It appears to me that the usual length of a movie won't be enough to do more than simply i
Aside from a small bit of new info... (Score:2)
...this is a dupe [slashdot.org].
I'll wait and see. (Score:3, Insightful)
As far as making a movie of it, I'd hope they were planning more than one, as there's no way you can tell the whole story arc in two hours.
It deserves to be made into a movie, but it also deserves to be done right.
They need to find a better director! (Score:3, Funny)
Cameron, T3 (Score:2)
I'll be glad to see the rest of the story (Score:2)
Based on the MANGA (Score:2)
At least, I _hope_ they use the manga as a basis. Although, it's going to be fairly hard to make a movie on something like 7 graphic novels and a rich storyline.
Not "Warrior Nun Areala", unfortunately (Score:2)
Re:Not "Warrior Nun Areala", unfortunately (Score:2)
Luckily, however, the concept will live on in part in the pornographic version, "Warrior Nun Aureole".
James Cameron is the perfect director (Score:4, Insightful)
Let's recap the movies he's done, shall we. So far he has directed:
Piranha II (hey, everyone's gotta eat)
Terminator
Aliens
The Abyss
Terminator 2
True Lies
Titanic
He also wrote the script for the movie "Strange Days"
There are over-riding themes throughout all his films:
-Strong Female Character
-Use and misuse of technology
-The strength of human spirit in adversity
-Self sacrafice for the greater good
-The struggle of technology subsuming humanity
-The hubris of man who think (and usually a he) they have nature and technology under control
For anyone who has read the manga and watch all the James Cameron movies (especially the director's cut), it would be immediately obvious why James Cameron picked this project. As a matter of fact when I was reading Battle Angel I was saying to people that it felt like a James Cameron movie done by a japanese manga writer.
Battle Angel is not just another manga. Like Akira before it the books introduced many philosophical questions about humanity, and always asks many existensial questions. Those are the type of questions that were probed in James Cameron movies, even in Titanic. Rose was not just questioning her status as a woman in high society of early 20th century, she was questioning how she should live her life.
I have full faith in James Cameron. He is no fly-by-night fanboy. He is meticulous in the planning of his movies. I am sure he will focus on just one of the story arcs of Battle Angel. He is known to produce sequels, and he has already mentioned that he wants to "break up" the whole arc of Battle Angel if the box office would let him. I think that he's doing the main character in CG so he can really spend time on this project. There's no other way to keep a 200 year old cyborg girl that looks like 20 looking like 20 for 3 movies if it takes him 3-4 years for each movie. The 3 movie part is just my speculation.
For me, my vote goes to the Hugo story as the first arc because it's when the tone of the whole series begin to change and she starts to grow. But knowing what James Cameron has done he will probably do the Bounty Hunter story who was given the Imaginos Body by Dr. Nova that was wreaking havoc on the Scrap Yard. That story got all the elements of a good James Cameron movie.
Re:James Cameron is the perfect director (Score:2)
So basically Every Sci-Fi Movie Ever. Sounds more like a template than a resume. You could say the same thing about Lucas or Spielberg.
Battle Angel DVD (Score:2)
Attention to detail makes anime worth it (Score:2)
I wonder what stupid mistakes will get though on this one, despit
2003 Cameron interview about Battle Angel (Score:4, Interesting)
"Battle Angel is a very real possibility and that's the film that I fully intend to direct, that I will direct - the issue is will it be the next film, or will it be the one after the next film? That's really all there is to it at this point. We've done a tremendous amount of design for the film, we're fine-tuning the script, it's just a matter of time."
Guess the question about when he's going to make it has now been answered. Anyway...
"What I like about it is that when we first meet Alita she's very young, she's sort of pre-pubescent in a way, and she actually matures throughout the story. I like that, that the development of her mind actually affects her physicality. There's a lot of really great things about it, and there's a lot of things - whether the artist really intended it or not - that I read into it, and so I think it'll be a good fusion of what Kashiro created and how I would do things."
Will it be faithful to the original manga?
"No, I don't really think that's possible. Not only is it not possible, it's not desirable. I think it's not possible because the manga is very discordant - it's not internally consistent, meaning sometimes she looks like one thing and has one set of abilities, and at the whim of Kashiro he'll go off on a different tangent. It needs to be fused and focused and given a centralised storyline. But the character will be very, very true to Alita as she is in the manga."
Motorball?
"Motorball might find its way into the second film - I definitely want to do more than one film. I want to create a world and a character that can go through at least one more film, possibly more. And that's not just for the usual financial reasons, it's just that I think there's a possibility for a real mythology here, so I feel that this is a good canvas to do something big that's got more scope."
Oh joy another book/manga raped (Score:2)
The opening isn't that original. Old man finds young girl who lost her memory but was once an ultimate weapon. Oh it adds the twist that she mostly has a robot body (I think it is closer to cyborg is I remember correctly) and is rather damaged when found.
So he repairs her and the first "story" is her suspecting the old man of killing humans to supply some of her organi
Soundtrack Options (Score:2)
Muse makes some excellent music and would be exceedingly perfect for the soundtrack. Between Origin of Symmetry and Absolution, you pretty much have the entire soundtrack wrapped up right.
Most likely (Score:2, Insightful)
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I can see it turning out alot like the Battle Angel anime, where it just goes up to Yugo's death, without alot of meat in the middle. I doubt they will go into much with Desty Nova and his creations, or anything where Alita is doing Motorball.
I forsee a very thinly sliced movie.
Re:I thought the anime was pretty good. (Score:2)
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Re:CG Actors (Score:2)
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Princess Mononoke rocks my socks. (Score:2)
Mmmm, the smell of ignorance frying is spicy.
Re:First big Cameron flop? (Score:2)
That would be The Abyss, which is still a cult favorite.
I would expect that Cameron will be able to strip out the Japanese specific aspects and concentrate on the action and plot. Much the way that Sergio Leone adapted Yojimbo into A Fistful of Dollars.
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Re:I'm the king of the world! (Score:2)
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Re:Battle Angel Jar-Jar (Score:2)
Anyway, James Cameron has his own special effects company - Digital Domain [wikipedia.org].
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Re:Hmmm... (Score:2)
In most movies that meld live action and CGI characters, there is a live actor that plays the part during the filming, giving the actors someone to play off against. Andy Serkis as Gollum was especially notable- he wasn't just providing the voice, if you saw some of the behind the scenes videos, you'd see how he actually played Gollum- they could have made do with a rubber suit if they didn't
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