Enterprise Finale Synopsis Released 392
exley writes "Trek Today is reporting that UPN has released a synopsis for the final two episodes of Enterprise, apparently confirming some of the rumors that have been circulating in recent weeks." From the article: "Enterprise will be the first Trek series since the original Star Trek not to end with a special two-hour finale. However, UPN has decided to air both 'Terra Prime' and 'These Are The Voyages...' on the same day, Friday the 13th of May, in an effort to still make a special event out of the show's end."
Final Voyage... (Score:5, Funny)
Then Lexus will appear on the main view screen, the science officer will analyze it to be an early 21st century craft which ran on fossil fuels and contains a crew of accountants. The captain will order phasers set to kill and fired with extreme predjudice, while engineering hails the bridge to indicate all power has suddenly failed. A crew of workmen will enter the bridge and start dismantling things and taking away props, phasers and rubber ears. (similar to the old SNL skit)
Re:Final Voyage... (Score:2)
Cameo by Chevy Chase? (Score:2)
Re:Final Voyage... (Score:5, Interesting)
Peter Weller - Lead from Manny's awesome and prematurely cancelly Odyssey5 series.
set six years later - Odyssey5 was about astronauts that went back five years in time to prevent the destruction of the Earth, since Odyssey5 was cancelled they never had a chance to even do a "wrap-up" episode - so jumping six years later sounds exactly like the kind of "wrap-up" Odyssey5 would have had if they had known they were being cancelled.
Re:Final Voyage... (Score:3, Insightful)
Its pretext was nice, but it should have been a mini series - after about the 3rd episode it had run out of ideas.
Re:Final Voyage... (Score:5, Informative)
You're supposed to get the crack when you get moderator points. So metamoderate. If you metamoderate you're more likely to get moderator points.
Re:Final Voyage... (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Final Voyage... (Score:5, Insightful)
I think it's more along the lines of them trying to do a knockoff of Babylon 5's "The Deconstruction of Falling Stars" than an attempt to irritate Trek fans.
It could actually be kind of cool. I am not a fan of Enterprise pre-season 3, but this may be a good opportunity for the writers to do some integration of the continuity with that of the other series.
Re:Holodeck (Score:5, Informative)
Brent Spiner wanted to kill him off. It took some arm twisting to get him to do the last movie or two. He felt that the character had run its course (I've never heard anything to suggest that he felt that the character had been painted into a corner development-wise).
They should have gotten the guy who played Lore or even Dr. Soong. Those guys could have passed as Data w/o pissing off the audience...
Heh (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Heh (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Heh (Score:5, Funny)
How fitting... (Score:5, Funny)
Yow! (Score:3, Funny)
Friday the 13th will come on a Friday that month! I'll have to watch the TV from underneath my bed.
So, what is most unluck about that day? Having to see the end of the series? Actually the idea of seeing the show wrapped up with a show set several years later is rather interesting,
Re:Yow! (Score:3, Informative)
It's actually a reference to Church La Femme's [pogopossum.com] famous fear of the Friday the 13th's. [batesline.com]
Circle of life? (Score:2)
Ah yes ... (Score:5, Interesting)
Now all we need is someone to step on a crack and break Braga and Berman's backs, and the circle of life will be complete.
Aye! Then after a good long break (several years) let's give Gene Roddenberry's real - as in worthy - successor, Michael Piller, a shot at the Star Trek franchise. At least Piller understood what Roddenberry was trying to do!
Perhaps with guidance from Majel Barrett, I'm sure they could turn things around for Star Trek. Something true to Gene's vision, that is.
zRe:Ah yes ... (Score:3, Informative)
Roddenberry pitched the Original Series as "Wagon Train to the Stars" which is why it had forst and foremost lots of action punctuated by an occasional fistfight or shootout. If someone would return to that formula instead of the "telenovela" style soap opera format of recent series then it would reurn to high ratings.
Both Roddenberry and George Lucas understood this. Roddenberry based Star Trek on old Westerns, while Lucas based Star Wars on o
Dupe alert! (Score:3, Funny)
(For the moderators who can't be bothered to click on the link before modding me down, the link is to the story about "ripples" explaining the universe and obviating the need for dark energy. It's a joke. Laugh.)
Rule of Slashdot humor #587 (Score:5, Funny)
Any immediate explanation of the humor behind a joke cancels out whatever humor the joke initially had.
Also:
Rule of Slashdot humor #741:
Randomly mention Microsoft Bob or Clippy for automatic +5 Funny!
Re:Rule of Slashdot humor #587 (Score:5, Funny)
Would you like to see some punch line templates?
Well (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Well (Score:2, Interesting)
Enterprise is Dead !!! (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Enterprise is Dead !!! (Score:3, Informative)
I'm not sure about that. The original Trek series has been in syndication practially since it went off the air.
Please oh please push the reset button (Score:5, Funny)
So "Enterprise" was just one big holodeck fantasy novel? Hooray!
Re:Please oh please push the reset button (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Please oh please push the reset button (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Please oh please push the reset button (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Please oh please push the reset button (Score:3, Informative)
The best parody of the Dallas one was from Family Guy, at the end of the Y2K episode, where Victoria Principal (the real her, not an animated one) wakes up, finds Patrick Duffy (not sure if he was animated or not
Re:Please oh please push the reset button (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Please oh please push the reset button (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Please oh please push the reset button (Score:2)
Re:Please oh please push the reset button (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Please oh please push the reset button (Score:5, Insightful)
The images flicker and disappear as the program ends. Riker and Troy exit the holodeck into the bustle of the Titan. Fade to black as the Titan continues its mission. Roll credits.
Cheesy, huh? That's what's gonna happen.Betcha.
Where are my Babylon 5 reruns?
Re:Please oh please push the reset button (Score:5, Funny)
I'm sure the makeup people were begging for time travel when Berman told them to make Riker and Troi look 11 years younger...
Re:Please oh please push the reset button (Score:3, Informative)
MAKE IT END (Score:3, Insightful)
Perhaps not... (Score:2)
That would be my assumption anyways.
Another interesting thing is that by having a four year time gap between the last two episodes, you open up the possiblity for someone to "fill in the blank". Like Cartoon Network's mini Star Wars saga.
The $64k question (Score:5, Funny)
The $64k answer (Score:2)
The signing of the Federation charter... (Score:5, Funny)
What a bunch of geeks.... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:What a bunch of geeks.... (Score:2, Funny)
On a related note... (Score:2)
I'll be sorry to see Enterprise go. It was getting alright. Yes, Battlestar Galactica is better but I've seen them all now and the next series won't be here anytime soon.
OT: it pisses me off that the Battlestar Galactica 'mini series' and 'series 1' need to be bought separetly on DVD - 45 quid for 15 episodes is a bit steep. Any word on whether the DVD versions keep the ridiculous 15 minute introduction sequences?
Re:On a related note... (Score:3, Funny)
Wormholes? Maybe they had some untelevised adventures. The characters do have a life outside the show, you know.
Re:On a related note... (Score:2)
b) BG new season starts this summer.
c) there are no 15 minute intro seqs. stop saying there is.
Heh (Score:5, Funny)
The fact that the this bastardization of Trek is ending should make it a special event in an of itself. ;)
Re:Heh (Score:2)
"Watchoo talkin' about, T'Pol?"
Save Enterprise (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Save Enterprise (Score:3, Informative)
This campaign won't make a jot of difference.
Re:Save Enterprise (Score:5, Funny)
It's dead, Jim. Time to move on and get a life.
I'm not a trek nut.. (Score:5, Interesting)
Isn't this what the fans complain about? That B&B completly disregard trek history. If I remember correctly, wasn't the federation formed in reponse to the end of the war between us and the romulans? Further didn't that happen like 50+ years after Enterprise? Correct me if i'm wrong...
Re:I'm not a trek nut.. (Score:5, Funny)
Denial is often a key indicator of a serious problem.
Re:I'm not a trek nut.. (Score:5, Informative)
The Federation Charter was signed in 2161, according to an Episode of TNG (the one where Riker falls in love with a person from an adrongenous race, I believe). Enterprise started in 2152, and is ending if 2156, so we'll be missing Romulan War.
I was always hoping that if the show ran for seven years, the last two seasons would deal with the four years of the Romulan war, and the last (few) episode(s) of the seventh season showing the formation of the Federation.
It will still be good to see the formation of the Federation, though. The Romulan War is rumoured to be the basis of one of the plots considered for Trek 11, however, so not all is lost.
Re:I'm not a trek nut.. (Score:2)
Re:I'm not a trek nut.. (Score:5, Insightful)
One thing I can't abide about Trekkies is their compulsive need to tie up all loose ends and resolve all inconsistencies, no matter how trivial or uninteresting. The purpose of background is to help tell a story, not the other way around.
Is this it? (Score:5, Interesting)
I must admit, I never watched the show, but I feel sad if it is leaving the air. Enterprise had so much potential, and I was very excited when it first came on the air. But it sucked, and sucked quick. I thought the guy from Quantum Leap would make a great actor for Captin of the Enterprise, but there was no chemistry with the cast. The shows had no excitement. And there was no science.
I hope the next star trek is a good one, set a few years in the future of TNG, so we can still have cameo's. Maybe enough in the future so we get some Voyager cast members.
Re:Is this it? (Score:5, Insightful)
I hope the Trek fans manage to salvage Enterprise - they should give Coto at least another season, and some decent advertising dollars, to demonstrate whether or not he and the rest of the remaining Enterprise team can put on a better show than B&B.
Re:Is this it? (Score:2)
Re:Is this it? (Score:5, Insightful)
The problem being, no matter how good the series is and could be under Manny Coto, it is tainted by what came before.
Let me put it this way - say you're building a house, and you end up with a lousy contractor that slacks off, does all sorts of code violations, and lets the foundation get water and termite damage. You fire the guy, of course, and bring in the best contractor in the world, with one condition - everything that was done before has to stay in place, because you don't want to start all over again with another new house. The guy builds the friggin Taj Mahal for you, but it's built on the crappy foundation the first guy laid.
The same goes with Enterprise. Manny's doing a pretty good job, but he's working with damaged goods. Oh, he can go back and brace up some of the sagging parts and he can build a fantastic new house, but it's still built on a foundation that was damaged by neglect by B&B. The other problem is - it's not really even his show. Oh, he's running it, but he's just the caretaker, it's still B&B's house.
This is why I don't get the fan campaign to save Enterprise. LET IT DIE. Let Paramount feel the sting of two Trek failures in a row under Berman's rule. After a while, even the dumbest of studios has to recognize a time for change, and maybe then we'll have a Trek series we'll enjoy. Then people like Straczynski (or however you spell it) and Coto and such can come in at that point and do fantastic work with that series.
Re:Is this it? (Score:2)
Wasn't this already done? LOL.
What I meant was a Star Trek where maybe Picard is a professor back at the academy, and an episode where someone goes to him for advice. Like the episode from "All Good Things" with Data. I dunno, I just like to see continuity. It is like Star Trek: "
A Dream, a la Dallas (Score:2)
Well, now we know why there's no continuity between Enterprise and the Original Series- it was all a holodeck fantasy. Closure at last.
This just in! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:This just in! (Score:2)
Re:This just in! (Score:4, Funny)
Yeah, unless you're into that kind of thing.
Re:This just in! (Score:2, Funny)
Heh, girlfriend, right... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:This just in! (Score:2)
Finale spoiler... (Score:5, Funny)
Feature Films To Follow? (Score:2, Insightful)
the end (Score:4, Insightful)
To which Troy says:
Yes, and take a history class or two. Because this is as far off, as I ever saw.
Yes, I am a trekkie, but enterprise? Not all trek is good trek.
Best episode? The one where captain Sisko makes his log entry and ends up deleting it. The moral ambiguity is lovely.
Pedantic reply (Score:4, Insightful)
That was a great episode, but what really makes it great is that when Sisko and Bashir got caught in the Bell riots, Bashir asks if humanity has really progressed since 2027, and what would they do if the survival of the Federation was at stake, and Sisko answers with some platitudes.
Now here it is, 3 years later, and we have Sisko ordering murders, cover ups, etc... all in the name of saving the Federation.
The juxtaposition of these two episodes is the some of the best TV I've ever seen.
Who really cares? (Score:2, Troll)
Slow start could have been strong finish, too (Score:5, Insightful)
launch. Maybe we've forgotten how awkward it can be that first year or so.
ST:TNG was painful to watch those first few seasons. Riker had starch in his jock, Troi was whiny had spoke too much for how little she had to say, and it was always "Federation Knows Best."
It wasn't until the series found its footing later that it became interesting. Warp drive wrecks space (we don't know everything after all), Borgs eat our lunch (we aren't so tough after all), and more.
Sadly, Enterprise was never given a chance to find its path. I'm a fan, though I was also critical of weak, pointless plot lines. But I liked the cast and thought the genesis of the universe we've come to know so well had potential.
I will miss it.
-- Scott
Re:Slow start could have been strong finish, too (Score:2)
I'm glad this show is off the air .... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:I'm glad this show is off the air .... (Score:5, Funny)
You didn't like it and somebody with a mod point agreed with you. Whoop-de-fuck.
Quick! To action! (Score:5, Funny)
Dear (Score:5, Funny)
This is karmic payback for the DUMBEST OPENING THEME SONG IN THE HISTORY OF TV.
regards,
me
Re:Dear (Score:2)
I Disagree (Score:2, Funny)
Likewise, the later revison to the opening also fits well with the past few seasons: too little, too late.
Something Awful Said It Best (Score:4, Insightful)
(It's part of this series of Photoshop Phridays [somethingawful.com], and is a parody of a rather badly designed advertisement against poverty. Open question: Can there be a well designed advertisement against poverty?)
Side note, huge Trek fan, finally got into Enterprise this season.
If I ever knew when it was on ... (Score:3, Insightful)
I'd much rather download the shows, and I can download 5 of the Enterprise episodes at a time and watch them all one Saturday afternoon. I know I am not getting counted as a viewer. So that sucks. I'd pay for it if it was in a DVD set, or subscribe to it online....
Re:If I ever knew when it was on ... (Score:2, Insightful)
Somehow I think the distribution system or earning logic should change. Not sure how many people actually watch Enterprise world wide, but I'm pretty sure they exist in great numbers thanks to Internet.
It's bit funny that nowdays there are tv-series that span the globe without even advertising them, but companies don't know how or don't want to make money out it.
Just count was it costs to advertise world wide movies, all the effort etc. and compare how easily popular tv series find regular fol
Dominic Keating says the finale sucks (Score:2, Insightful)
Here's a hint, when the actors on the show says it sucks, it's a good time to pack it in.
UPN is BLOWING a HUGE opportunity... (Score:5, Interesting)
What if they had a blog for the show, slashdot style? Complete with potential plots for shows that people could comment on and moderate?
Can you imagine the positive feedback loop that could be created here? Rather than spend insane amounts of money keeping track of the history of the Star Trek universe, they could do a dual-benefit of off-loading much of the fact-checking to the community, and also provide a sense of ownership by the community!
How many good plots could be written by people, and you know people would cook them up for FREE....
I dunno. But it seems to me an amazing opportunity, and they're pissing off their community by not listening.
UPN is reasonably cutting their losses. (Score:3, Interesting)
Adding another blog will not change this. There are already many Internet outlets for discussion of Star Trek affairs, Viacom runs some of them. Star Trek fans give their opinions and anyone who writes for Star Trek can get feedback there.
As for involving the public more in scriptwritin
The end (Score:2, Funny)
A truly "Special Finale" (Score:5, Funny)
... would be if all the writers from all the seasons of Enterprise came out on camera and apologized.
For that, give 'em the 2 hours. They have a lot to apologize for.
Next Star Trek show to be reality based (Score:5, Funny)
Enterprise was a good series. (Score:3, Insightful)
Every ST series reflects its era: the original series was like the heroic movies shot in the 50s (ala Spartacus); TNG was all very strong in characters, just like in the 80s we had mega-stars like Jackson and Madonna; and Enterprise is calm and very low-profile, just like the 'cool' and 'chillin' personalities of late 90s/early 2000. The difference can be summed up in the Captains' behaviour: Kirk would shoot first, then talk over the victim; Picard would not shoot unless a full philosophical analysis of the situation took place ; and Archer would be engaged in smalltalk until he found the right spot to shoot.
Re:This is still on the air? (Score:3, Funny)
I know. I hate decent acting, character development, and interesting plot arcs too.
Re:This is still on the air? (Score:2)
Just once, I would like to see a science fiction series with significant continuity, mult
Re:This is still on the air? (Score:3, Informative)
I moved to the US (from Russia) about 10 years ago with my parents and my sister. Even my 45 year old mother enjoys DS9. And so does my younger sister. DS9 had by far the most interesting story line of all the Star Trek TV series. Great actors too.
Paul.
Re:Discount (Score:2)
not enough sex perhaps?
Re:Discount (Score:2)
The sad thing is that in this era of reality TV, these sorts of year-to-year contracts are becoming the n
Re:First comment! :D (Score:5, Informative)
Enterprise only sucks if you stopped watching before Season 3. It's understandable to stop then, but don't judge it now based on that. All Star Trek series start off on the bad side and improve as they go along, this one being no different.
Re:First comment! :D (Score:3, Insightful)
'Where No Man Has Gone Before'
'The Naked Time'
'The Enemy Within'
'Dagger Of The Mind'
'The Corbomite Maneuver'
'The Menagerie', Parts I & II
'Balance Of Terror'
'Shore Leave'
'The Galileo Seven'
'Arena'
'Space Seed'
'The Devil In The Dark'
'Errand Of Mercy'
'The City On The Edge Of Forever'
I beg to differ.
Re:What should be next... (Score:5, Insightful)
books with the occaisional interesting and original idea.
As someone who grew up with TOS and has seen much of the
subsequent incarnations I just feel it is well past time to
move on. Enjoy the reruns and DVDs and give your support
to new and different science fiction on TV.