Technology-Based Social Change 132
vivekg writes "BBC has published an article featuring the highlights of technological social change from around the world for this year. It is amazing to find out how technology is being used in very different ways for very different communities. Victims of the Tsunami disaster, Virtual Wallets in Japan, and the Indian government, bringing technology to rural areas, all have been touched by the positive use of technology. Hope to see more good community-based collaboration in 2006."
Too connected? (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm sure there have been positive effects too though.
Approaching overflow (Score:5, Insightful)
Sure, you can find something on anything, but the lines of truth blur in the presence of so much information... and valid opinions and ideas become easier to overlook...
I don't know, there are definate upsides, it is easier to communicate with people who I couldn't keep in close touch with, but in the old days, they would have just slipped away... and one day wondered 'I wonder how mister_llah is doing?'
Plus there is something to be said for face to face conversation and *whoa* physical contact... *shrug*
Re:Approaching overflow (Score:3, Interesting)
Would you rather have more valid opinions and perspectives expressed, and thus a blurier truth, or would you rather have a clearer truth, with fewer valid opinions and perspectives..?
In fact I think we will have both: We continue to find ways for our tools to help us organize our communications and information, and to help us form a clearer picture of a multiplicity of perspectives.
When I read what you wrote, I thought: "Whoah-- somebody feels that their version of th
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Re:Too connected? (Score:5, Insightful)
Sure, there's bad with the good. Technology hasn't changed human nature, it's just a visible scapegoat.
Re:Too connected? (Score:3, Insightful)
You miss body gestures, nuances and postures and become completely dependent on technology to get to know a person. I mean, you communicate at least as much on the phone and on IM/e-mails as you do in person; and while they maybe fruitful communications, they just aren't the same.
Heck, I communicate with my room-mates over IM far more than actually walking down to their room and talking to them about somethi
Re:Too connected? (Score:5, Interesting)
In other words, the rest of the world becomes just like I've been all along. I've got Asperger's Syndrome (NOT self-diagnosed) and I always felt weird growing up. No wonder I'm far more verbal in text based communications than in real life.
Re:Too connected? (Score:2)
Asperger's or whatever, I think many people just don't think quite as fast on the
Re:Too connected? (Score:2)
As yo
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As someone who's been there, would you recommend this approach?
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Thanks for the info. I may just try this.
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I don't know much about your condition, but I am curious about something - can't you learn these by memorizing what they're supposed to mean, even though you may not be able to make an emotional connection to them?
Yes, that's the primary form of therapy- created in the last 10 years or so. It's also similar to what most of us who were born far earlier came up with on our own- but thi
Re:Too connected? (Score:2)
> Face-to-face, dead air is a sin, so you're pressured to blurt half-cooked thoughts before they're done baking.
What a great way to put it.
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Does this apply? (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Does this apply? (Score:3, Insightful)
When there's a single address which *will* get hold of you if you are available, there's only one thing to turn off.
Re:Does this apply? (Score:2)
As someone who is 22, I remember a time before I had the the worlds information at my finger tips. But I shudder to think about what life would be like if I was still stuck in that time. I THRIVE on the constant information, and one of the reasons is beca
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Re:Too connected? (Score:5, Interesting)
One good-looking young couple had in use, between them, two laptops, two cell phones, a Blackberry, and a graphing calculator. Plus at least one iPod. But no annoying ringtones. They're using the gear, not showing it off.
Re:Too connected? (Score:2)
Two people go to work on a group project for calculus, bringing laptops in tow to type up the report, use mathmatica, etc. Everyone is awhile they take a break. On one break
Re:Too connected? (Score:2)
How loud do the people where you live tap on bdas? jeez.
How is talking about computer [problems any different then Car problems? TV problems? etc.
The problem here, my friend, is you.
Unless you mean people you are dining with. In that case, they are just being rude.
Re:Too connected? (Score:1)
I guess th
I miss the days... (Score:2)
"yammering on cell phones" = yammering to the person sitting next to you "tapping on PDAs" = scratching on paper with a pen "talking about computer problems" = talking about anything your not interested in
Your problem is that you hate technology just for the sake of hating technology. The only difference between you and the Omish is that the Omish don't run around whinning about how everybody else isn't Omish.
All of your complaints existed jus
Re:I miss the days... (Score:2)
As for talking about computer problems, I'm a computer geek. Seriously. I was the kid typing BASIC into the Apple IIs in elementary school, on up to running Gentoo on anything I can get my hands on today. It's proba
Re:I miss the days... (Score:2)
Or you were happy with just the fuzzy feeling of being Bill's free 24/7 tech support?
No foot (Score:2)
As for your laptop experience. Did you know that people in all sorts of industries get that kind of treatment? Did you know tht doctors get asked by people they don't know for medical advice? Did you know that lawyers get asked by people they don't k
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Re:Too connected? (Score:2)
go to any computer store now, you have all the cool kids in there fawning over the latest computers and if you don't have a computer you are considered strange.. And I read an article a while back about meeting women while computing and what computers are considered cool...
how funny the switch...
Re:Too connected? (Score:2)
And note what it was that helped technology & computers to cross that line... when they became tools to do everyday tasks, like make calls, send messages to keep in touch with people. Computers only became cool when they were all connected up.
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Paperless office? (Score:2)
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You are overreacting. (Score:2)
As technology invades our lives, so will changes come. But that's not a problem, and it will certainly not be in the future where technology will be almost invisible.
Re:Too connected? (Score:2)
Boy I miss the days when I could go out to a nice dinner without people yammering to the people across the table from them, forks and knives scraping against plates, talking about politics, etc.
Is it the talking that bothers you, or the phone's ringing? That's the thing that gets me. I realize that people have a tendency to speak louder into a cellp
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The problem isn't too much information or too much connectivity. The problem is rude people who impose their gadgets on others. This isn't something that calls for special technological manners. The principles can be generalized quite easily from the stuff your mamma taught you when you were five - like, don't talk loudly in a public area, and don't ignore the people you're with.
Girl gamers? (Score:4, Interesting)
Poor guy!
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*muffledgiggles*
Re:Girl gamers? (Score:2)
That female was talking about having guns in the sims. Seriously, what's the point of Sims again? I mean, isn't it a lot easier to live your real life than live it out in a virtual world?
Heck, if there were guns in the Sims, it'd have been a lot more interesting. Form gangs, fight evil couples blah blah.
Article hopelessly incomplete (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Article hopelessly incomplete (Score:2)
Do you really think young men are more horny these days than they were before? I don't think so. I believe it's more socially acceptable to talk about how horny you are to anyone and everyone. Unless you meant "rise" in another way, in which case I prefer not to comment.
Not to mention Podcasts: returning to old tech (Score:2, Interesting)
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Working at a hospital with private Doctors' offices, I know that if they didn't close the window, the patients/customers would be constantly bothering them with questions they cannot answer, as if an open window is an open forum. Many times I've seen patients ask receptionists medical questions: she's not a freaking nurse, she's a secretary!
Also, sometimes receptionists do more than just answer phones, make appoi
How is this news? (Score:1, Interesting)
Man is a technological animal - of course he (or she) will use new tech in a way that fits and enhances their way of life.
Where is the news here?
Re:How is this news? (Score:2)
And, no, I certianly did NOT read the article.
Necessity is such a mother... (Score:2, Interesting)
This month I've conceded, again, to having a Cell Phone.
I was an early Adopter of cell phones back when they were bag phones (it still works and has power and range a hand held only dreams of!) Then I moved to a hand held Motorola unit, which would still nearly split a pocket in my jeans.
In 2000 I had been living in California and was searching for a while and found I needed one to secure a new appartment. Being able to get in touch or be got in touch with was a necessity as I found during the late dot
Re:Necessity is such a mother... (Score:2)
Not as profitable as in the old days when the carriers paid dealers monthly residuals on every line they connected and a percentage of the monthly bills of each user. Nowadays the residuals are mostly gone.
Women gaming clubs (Score:5, Insightful)
What is significant here is the gaming stereotypes that are keeping women away from gaming in the first place. You only need to turn on G4$ T.V. for approximately 5 seconds to see what I'm talking about. What you need to do to bring women into gaming is to stop marketing to 13 year old boys alone. It's pretty simple.
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Social change by defeating censorship (Score:4, Interesting)
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real social change (Score:2)
I'll get excited when I see the collective realization that just the technology we currently have [faqs.org] enables the defeat of many entrenched [fpa.org], obsolete [publishers.org] social [riaa.com] constructs [politicalreviewnet.com].
It's the withering away of the state; Lenin forsaw it but mistook it. It turns marxism and capitalism both ass-over-teakettle.
Why not use these techniques to defeat fearful [mfa.gov.il] democratic [assemblee-nationale.fr] and republican [sourcewatch.org] governments, as well? They are equally egregious, just the authoritarian regimes are less duplicitous and a damn sight rougher.
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The evils of Cell Phone use (Score:3, Funny)
They forgot something... (Score:5, Insightful)
Like surveillance of the masses [slashdot.org], more surveillance of the masses [slashdot.org], tracking vehicle movements [slashdot.org], really tracking vehicle movements [slashdot.org], seriously tracking vehicle movements [slashdot.org]....
NeverEndingBillboard.com [neverendingbillboard.com]
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The Next Social Equalizer? (Score:5, Interesting)
I am not saying that this technology makes everyone equal, but what I am saying is that this technology gives everyone the chance to start out on the exact same footing when they use these new technologies to interact. Whether you connect to the web via your own dual-processor hyper pentium uber-computer with a dedicated T1 at your house or from a free terminal at a public library, the packets are the same. At that point no one cares about your race, economic status, religion, whatever, the playing field is level for you to express yourself. Now, what happens after you post -- that falls back to the current social climate and really depends on what you the individual has to express.
A lot of hopeful thinking I know... but hey, it's that time of year.
Re:The Next Social Equalizer? (Score:2, Informative)
I am surprised BBC has chosen to highlight the computer and internet technology in India. To me, the real story is the mobile phones (which just gets an honourable mention). It has been the big story for the last several years; and I am sure it will be so for the next several too.
The early nineties saw the rise of manned pay phone booths. It was seen as a big deal, simply because it made telephones accessible to everyone (amd also gave employment opportunities to a lot of people). For the first time, those
Re:The Next Social Equalizer? (Score:2)
Well, 65% of the British public want to know what's going on back home.
Not joking or being a moron about it either, just a statement of fact. India and England have a very close relationship and MANY dual citizens. I picked up my love for a good vindalu and pakoras living in the UK as a kid.
Re:The Next Social Equalizer? (Score:2)
Think about it. The web allows you to share information with people around the world, regardless of whether the information is artistic collaboration or state secrets. Anonymyzing layers and encryption provide the protection. Technology helps _avoid_ surveillance as much as the other posters poin
Re:The Next Social Equalizer? (Score:2)
Well...as much as I'd like to agree, that just isn't true. Education still plays a large role in how useful a piece of technology (read: a tool) is to someone. The amount of use they can get out of it is directly related to how much aptitude/education they have, along with a myriad of other factors.
Additionally, not all hardware/software is create
Negative changes, anyone? (Score:4, Interesting)
I'm sure the US list is similar.
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Re:Negative changes, anyone? (Score:2)
For example: law enforcement needs to go through checks and balances, and the data is not allowed to be sold, or used in any capacity for profit.
I large database with any of this data is fine, and handy when use approprietly.
Re:Negative changes, anyone? (Score:1)
Just a question. (Score:2, Funny)
But how come they don't have photos of any cute girl gamers?
Is this because they don't exist? And I almost got my hopes up.
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Ugh. (Score:3, Funny)
Obviously grammar-checking is one area where technology still lags.
Re:Ugh. (Score:1)
I mean, if your going to be a grammar nazi, go all out!
Social Based Technology Change (Score:4, Insightful)
If one thing is clear from the history of technology, its that people do not change. Technology changes.
My vote goes to the oral contraceptive (Score:2)
Sure. It's 1940's technology, but really, has there been anything else that has created so much social change and is STILL creating social change?
We still don't know what the long term social effects will be, on the West especially, for another 50 years.
Re:My vote goes to the oral contraceptive (Score:1)
Fewer people?
Re:My vote goes to the oral contraceptive (Score:2)
> Fewer people?
Amazingly enough, I don't think oral contraceptives will stop too many pregnancies
Technology becomes commonplace (Score:3, Insightful)
I do not want a flying car because that means that the drivers who are idiots will then be in the air. (Disclaimer-I am a pilot)
I don't want technology displacing pilot education and the requirements to become a pilot.
There are a good bit of us here that remember when-
you couldn't buy a phone, you had to rent them.
when Russia was the bad guys. (anybody born in the '90s -huh?) Now everyone has a spycamera.
Pull strings on toys. (Today's See and Says are battery powered, Mrs. Beasley - huh?)
Movies used to have cartoons in front of them
I remember the MGM movies had Tom and Jerry, UA movies had Pink Panther. Now it's only Pixar and commercials.
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facebook (Score:4, Interesting)
facebook has had an increadable impact on the social lives of college students.
Not to mention, it is an increadable well designed web app.
Re:facebook (Score:1)
-brian
http://brian.zaadz.com/ [zaadz.com]
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On top of that, there is the dark side of facebooking - it's public. Someday someone is going to see somet
Re:facebook (Score:2)
A lot of people just amass friends to appear popular or just because they are bored. I've probably got a dozen people on my friends list that I have only ever talked to once, but who cares? It's not hurting anyone.
With facebook I have...
The illusion of connectedness (Score:3, Insightful)
It seems that the more 'connected' a person makes themselves through technology, the less they actually connect. Just how meaningful can a conversation be when it consists of:
RING
Hello?
A: Hi Z! How's it going *BEEP*
Z: Hang on, another call *CLICK* Hello?
B: Howsit going?
Z:It's cool, but I'm on another call, can I call you back?
B:Sure, cool.
Z: *CLICK* Hey man, sorry about *BEEP*, hang on...
C: Hey man, whatcha doing?
Z: Actually, I was just talking to A, can I
C:Hey! I haven't heard from A in a while, tell him to call me when you're Done.
Z: Sure, talk in a few. *CLICK* Sorry man, Hey, I just heard from C, he said *BEEP* hang on...*CLICK* Hello?
C: Hello!
A:Hey C! Whatcha up to?
C: I'm sitting right next to you. We're on a date remember?
A: WOAH! Sorry about that, so why'd you call me on the phone?
C: That's the only
Z: *BEEP* hang on a sec, I gotta answer that *CLICK*
E: Hey man, what's up?
Z: I'm on a date with C! How 'bout you?
E: Just chilling man
A: Hey? Where are you going? What's wrong? Man WOMEN. I can't believe she just walked off without saying a word. OH MAN she HUNG UP on me too!
E: Yeah, go figure *BEEP* Hold on man *CLICK*
That MIGHT be a little exaggerated, but I doubt it.
Re:Mentifex AI Social Change (Score:2)
I'll believe it, Arthur [nothingisreal.com], when Mind.Forth gets an FP here.