Gadgets for the Lazy 233
theodp writes "The Pentagon has found the perfect way to demonstrate it's purely the thought that counts - 700 bugle emulators which sit in real bugles and play 'Taps' at military funerals. The Ceremonial Bugle is just one item in Wired's collection of Gadgets for the Lazy."
What I am waiting for (Score:5, Funny)
Re:What I am waiting for (Score:2, Funny)
Re:What I am waiting for (Score:3, Insightful)
best... pun... ever...
Re:What I am waiting for (Score:2)
http://www.mcphee.com/items/10727.html [mcphee.com]
Re:What I am waiting for (Score:2)
Slashdot for the lazy... (Score:2, Funny)
The editor's are getting the idea now!
Bugles (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Bugles (Score:2)
Re:Bugles (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Bugles (Score:2)
Re:Bugles (Score:3)
So... Just ask all those aging WW II vets to quit dying then? Good idea!
Re:Bugles (Score:2)
Don't feel bad, you actually did read the "article" seeing as the blurb in the submission WAS the whole article. Must be a slow newsday on /.
I'm not sure it's that easy. (Score:5, Informative)
The restriction isn't anything like "one octave". It's more like "two notes per octave". To get enough notes to make a decent tune out of that, you'll need some extreme range. Building that range can take a long time. Mouth strength doesn't arrive in a matter of days.
There would also be something wrong if the bugle player hadn't gone through basic training. He wouldn't be a real soldier without that gas chamber.
Re:I'm not sure it's that easy. (Score:3, Insightful)
1) You can't just tell a soldier to learn the bugle and expect anything that is reasonable for a funeral.
2) You can't just tell a professional musician to stand in the place of a soldier.
Neither would produce a desireable result.
Re:I'm not sure it's that easy. (Score:4, Informative)
Re:I'm not sure it's that easy. (Score:2)
You guys did an excellent job with my grandfather's funeral, and my family really appreciated it.
Soldering ? (Score:2)
Re:I'm not sure it's that easy. (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:I'm not sure it's that easy. (Score:2)
Re:I'm not sure it's that easy. (Score:2)
Re:I'm not sure it's that easy. (Score:5, Informative)
I play signaling trumpet, a four foot long natural trumpet. The difference between a bugle and a trumpet is that the bugle is conical in section, having developed from a true horn (like, from the head of a cow) though the post horn (that round thing you see in period movies or hanging from the walls of "theme" restaurants). The closest modern orchestral relative of the bugle is the cornet, which is a valved version of the post horn, as is the, ummmm, horn ("French" Horn to you).
The restriction isn't anything like "one octave". It's more like "two notes per octave".
Well, three actually. The fundamental/root, fourth and sixth. Add the octave and you've got four notes to play with in a one octave range. Buy playing "crossed" this gives a low note below root and a major chord a fourth up from the fundamental. American military trumpets are pitched in G and if you go to a keyboard and pick out Taps you'll find that consists simply of a G below C root and a C chord played in third inversion.
Most bugle calls stick to a one octave range, but the practical range of the instrument is two octaves, although some can push it a bit further. More power to them.
KFG
Re:I'm not sure it's that easy. (Score:2)
rj
Re:I'm sure it's that easy. (Score:3, Insightful)
I have hardly met a person who couldn't work out how to play taps in under an hour of playing.
Agreed. Taps isn't all that hard to play. What is hard, though, is to play Taps *well*. The notes are easy, but smooth, crisp transitions between them and a nice tone require practice. I once attended a military funeral with a bugler who had a nasty, buzzing tone, bobbled note changes and who had a hard time with the high notes. It would have been a better ceremony if they had used a bugling device. The ba
Re:I'm sure it's that easy. (Score:5, Funny)
Star Spangled Banner is possible (Score:2)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_horn [wikipedia.org]
Re:It doesn't matter. (Score:3, Interesting)
We're burying a couple thousand WWII vets a month now....
As an unemployed bugle player (Score:4, Insightful)
As an unemployed bugle player, I find this disappointing. :)
Seriously though, trumpet is one of the most common instruments taught in High School, and bugles are super easy to play (for a brass player). I'm positive they could find people to do this, they just don't care enough to even look.
I'd rather have a bad bugle player at a funeral of a friend, then some stupid souless gadget..
Re:As an unemployed bugle player (Score:3, Interesting)
They could fix this by ordering people to learn and play at the funerals, but they don't do that (I don't think they should).
As another poster pointed out, this is better than a CD player (ceremonially).
Re:As an unemployed bugle player (Score:2)
A bugle is pretty much the same as a trumpet, cornet or flugelhorn (closest to the flugel), but with no valves, so it's actually _easier_ to play......
Re:As an unemployed bugle player (Score:5, Insightful)
As time goes by, though, soldiers are less and less ignorant cannon fodder and more and more skilled technicians. Learning all the stuff they need to learn is pretty time consuming. So it no longer makes sense for the miltary to maintain time-wasting rituals, like potato peeling and bugle classes.
Re:As an unemployed bugle player (Score:2)
Seriously, tho, a nation that can spend BILLIONS on sky, sea, and ground weapons systems can spare a Few people and PAY them. The government
Re:As an unemployed bugle player (Score:2)
RTTUZYUW 20060430-0115
From: COMNAV...
To: sdfw " ekl "
SUBJECT: Issuance of Kazoos in Replacement of CD Gadgets and Bugles
SSIC: 23532
REF: " Budget Reductions "
INT WTF??
Kazoo Players for Taps?
I just had a sick though:
Ship, far from home with chillers and freezer units damaged from pernicious and incessant enemy direct action commencing burial at sea evolution. At the last minuted, the Duty MAA arrives to the fantail:
Sir, regret to infor
Re:They don't need to force anybody to play it. (Score:4, Informative)
As I (and others) have said before here, this is a hell of a lot better than the CD player we used to use.
Re:As an unemployed bugle player (Score:2)
Well, there may be plenty of buglers but they aren't enlisting. It's a good gig: you get E-6 almost right away.
Re:As an unemployed bugle player (Score:3, Informative)
It's a real problem for the modern Army. We're moving away from the Cold War structure of having a different MOS for every imaginable job to moving many jobs over to the civilian side of things. Example: when I was in advanced individual training, a guy in my platoon was reclassing from Stinger operator. His one and only job was to hump a Stinger around with him. In his new line of work (and mine,
Re:As an unemployed bugle player (Score:3, Informative)
Like others have said, the emulators are much better than the old system. We did literally use a CD player. With these emulators, you can
Re:As an unemployed bugle player (Score:5, Informative)
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I'm a competent trumpet player (Score:2, Informative)
Sorry, I'm suddenly pissed off.
Gah - well, I might as well mention to an above poster that said they play roughly two notes per octave, that's only true in the lowest octave. If I know what I'm talking about, a bugle is roughly equivalent to a trumpet with the first and third valves held down. Regardless of w
Re:As an unemployed bugle player (Score:3, Informative)
To be fair, I think that active-duty casualties still get a real bugler. AFAIK, these devices are for (much more common) veteran's funerals.
When Bush passes... (Score:3, Funny)
Tom Caudron
http://tom.digitalelite.com/politics.html [digitalelite.com]
P.S. Attended a military funeral a couple of years ago. They played taps on a tape player. This device is a step UP not down from that experience.
National Anthem. (Score:2, Interesting)
How about a Gadget that you can insert into singers that plays the national anthem correctly at sports events?
Shoe dryer (Score:4, Insightful)
TFA:
It's not clear how else you would dry your shoes, but this smacks of laziness.Personally I think not riding your bike to work because you might get your shoes wet in the rain smacks of laziness but maybe thats just me.
Re:Shoe dryer (Score:2)
I actually jumped in a pool after the last day of school fully clothed with shoes on, and the newspaper thing really works.
Thanks mom!
To be used in 2003? (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:To be used in 2003? (Score:2)
Here's [geek.com] a reference to it from 2002.
You can even Order your own [ceremonialbugle.com] for the bargain-basement price of $500.
Search for "digital bugle" on Google...this thing has been all over the Internet for years.
Re:To be used in 2003? (Score:2)
Re:To be used in 2003? (Score:2)
The Army long long ago stopped training *actual* buglers, hence, CD's and this gadget.
uh oh (Score:2, Funny)
I was thinking to myself "how lazy can people be?" when I realized that I was actively using one of the devices in the article:
http://www.theemptyroom.com/ST_14.jpg [theemptyroom.com]
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Bad layout (Score:2, Funny)
AIBO? (Score:2)
Gadget for the stinking rich more like.
Re:AIBO? (Score:2)
Bugles Across America (Score:5, Informative)
RIAA sues the Pentagon! (Score:2, Funny)
Smart move (Score:2)
Sigh.... (Score:5, Insightful)
1. To the smart ass that stated that they "can't be looking too hard if they can't find a trumpet player"...it's a bugle, not a trumpet. While I play neither, it is my understanding that a trumpeter cannot simply pick up a bugle and play it (especially well enough to do funeral detail).
2. Funeral details are NOT fun. After a while, it gets a little depressing. It is constant (not on weekends for 5 minutes as someone said). You stand endlessly in either blazing sun or freezing cold. You're in full dress (the most uncomfortable uniform ever designed). If you've never been to a national cemetary, then visit. There are funerals going on all day, every day, never ending. Families are limited to about 15 minutes at the graveside to make room/time for those processions scheduled behind them. Blah blah blah.
3. There is a shortage because the bugle is not a common instrument in band these days. Few people who join the military do so to play an instrument, and fewer still that do want to play funerals. Most do a rotation on funeral honors, but more often than not, the task falls to Reservists and retirees.
It's sad, but at least having someone stand there and hold a bugle while appearing to play it is better (to the grieving families) than having someone hit play on a boom box. Unless there are plans to have compulsory bugle duty and compulsory funeral detail, I think this is about the best solution that can be reached.
Re:Sigh.... (Score:5, Informative)
Yes, it is obvious you play neither. I played trombone and taught myself some trumpet/french horn/baritone back in the day. One brass instrument is faily similar to another once you learn slide positions/valve combinations and train your lips to fit the different sizes of the mouthpieces. I can play you taps on the trombone, trumpet, bugle, flugelhorn, baritone, tuba, french horn, etc. Taps is the chopsticks of brass instruments.
Re:Sigh.... (Score:2)
Sorry to burst your bubble, but the bugle has no valves or positions, it's all dependent on the strength of the bugler. So no offense, but I doubt you could do it.
Re:Sigh.... (Score:3, Informative)
I'm that smart ass. At least one of them.
While I play neither
Clearly. I play both, and can assure you that they are nearly identical. Bugle playing is trivial for a trumpeter. Low brass players can pick it up in a few days.
It's a matter of respect. The govt. should be willing to spend the money to get this job done properly, out of respect for the families.
It's wonderful, inspiring, and beautiful that the VFW folks come out to do this for free. But they shouldn't have to. The govt., with it's b
Re:Sigh.... (Score:2)
Re:Sigh.... (Score:2)
Re:Sigh.... (Score:2)
Merely playing the notes is trivial for a half-decent trumpet player.
Clearly the military needs to save money (Score:2)
Shoe mops (Score:2)
Great, but it ruins... (Score:5, Funny)
Old news, but... (Score:2, Insightful)
My father is a WWII vet, and for his birthday two years ago, I (an old brass player) bought a repro 1860 bugle and pledged to play Taps at his funeral. This promise was made specifically in view of the lack of military buglists.
He loved it. And, if I can keep from crying on that inevitable day, and can firm up the embouchour, I'll be proud to lay him to rest.
Bugles Across America (Score:5, Informative)
Bugles Across America [buglesacrossamerica.org] needs volunteers.
What I need (Score:2)
Most of these items have useful functions (Score:2, Insightful)
In this article they are clearly targeting, as forms of social criticism against people who are lazy:
1. The Motor Lounger: something for genuine lazy tards
2. Ice-cream turner: A gag gift
3. Computer in bed: Something that any geek who has ever been confined to a bed would drool over (but I guess we don't care about invalid
I don't think the eyeglasses washer is frivolous (Score:2)
Yes, I have an anti-scratch coating. It does help a little.
Electric fly squatter (Score:2)
I wonder when this friend of mine will buy the eyelash washer for his girlfriend.
Re:Electric fly squatter (Score:2)
Oops, I misread, it's an eyeglasses washer. Maybe there is a market for eyelashed washers though. For girls that cry a lot.
Automatic sushi machine? (Score:2)
Re:call the local junior high marching band (Score:2)
Re:call the local junior high marching band (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:call the local junior high marching band (Score:2)
Also, if "cold" is more than figurative, your lips can freeze to the metal. Well, it would have been out of tune anyway...
Re:call the local junior high marching band (Score:2)
All is lost? I could see that reaction if you were talking about the ice cream cone twirler...
Re:call the local junior high marching band (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Bugle emulators (Score:3, Insightful)
Funeral Watch (Score:5, Informative)
Funerals
When we talk about a bugle playing taps we are talking about a "simple funeral" ( a full honors funeral consists of a complete band ) and we are also typically talking about a field music playing taps on a Bb Trumpet because the U.S. Military only has 2 D&B corps left. One is The Commandant's Own in Washington, DC and the other is the U.S. Naval Academy Drum & Bugle Corps. I'm not sure how the USNA D&B works but the USMC D&B has a Duty Music of the Guard and an on-call rotation of upper-voice ( Soprano & Mellophone players ) musicians for funerals. Lower voices ( baritone and contra-bass baritone players ) do not do funerals for what should be an obvious reason. The means there are only several dozen musicans available for funerals and most of them are not available due to other operational committments of the organization. That said, they perform at hundreds of simple funerals per year in the Washington, DC area. The families of the fallen servicemen who receive these last honors are truely the lucky ones. I've witnessed many funerals and they are truely emotiona.
Thoroughout the rest of the nation simple honors funerals are perfomed by musicians from various field bands of the U.S. Military, national guard bands and volunteers from Bugles across America. They do their best to meet the mission but the sad fact is that WWII veterens are dying at a rate of couple thousand per day. Many unfortunatly, do not get proper last honors.
Bugles:
I've seen many posts in this thread with misconceptions of what a bugle is. In the military context the bugles are 2 valved ( pistons ) instruments that are pitched in G. The first valve lowers the pitch by 2 semitones and the 2nd valve lowers the pitch by a semitone. This provides for a full chromatic scale in the instruments middle range. Some notes in the lower registers are missing. Music is written to the treble clef and arranged in SATB format. Typically it's Upper and Lower Lead, 2nd and 3rd Soprano. Upper/Lower Melophones. 1st, 2nd and 3rd Baritones ( 8vb ) and Contrabass Baritone ( 15vb ).
Re:Funeral Watch (Score:2, Informative)
Re:laziness? (Score:2)
Re:laziness? (Score:2)
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How many of those trumpet players are willing to enlist in the military? Drive a couple hours to random cemetaries in the area to play for 5 minutes
Re:laziness? (Score:2)
How about a trumpet player who is willing to be sent to Iraq?
Re:laziness? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:laziness? (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:laziness? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:laziness? (Score:2)
The shortage of real military honor guards is real, but it is clear to me that the
Re:laziness? (Score:2)
I am currently serving overseas in Afghanistan, but when I was back stateside, I played plenty of funerals, both military and civilian. I am a bagpiper, and was called upon usually for Amazing Grace or Flowers of the Forest. In almost every case I didn't know the family or the decedent, but funeral details require the same dignity and respect that we would wish for ourselves or our own families.
Semper Fi!
Man, that thing is creepy. (Score:2)
The music gets to a certain point, maybe 3/4 the way through, then suddenly changes tonal quality. What the heck is that? It's nothing that I, as a brass player, could properly identify. It sure hits hard though.
Playing such a thing at a funeral is so mean and unfair. Next "Amazing Grace" on bagpipes, Taps is just a bedtime song.
Re:Speaking of bugle/brass music overplaying... (Score:2)
Re:Speaking of bugle/brass music overplaying... (Score:2)
Re:bugle != trumpet (Score:4, Informative)
I played trombone in high school, and "Taps" is easily played without any valving (or slide, in the case of the trombone) changes. If the mouthpieces are the same, a bugle is just a simple trumpet.
I read somewhere that prior to the invention of the trumpet valves, similar versatility would be achieved by owning multiple bugles or having multiple bugle players, each with a different bugle. Different length of tubing = different notes you can play.
It's my guess that there isn't a shortage of competent players in the country (any high school with a band program should have several) but a shortage of MILITARY bugle players. You don't send the 16-year-old kid with long hair to play taps at the funeral; you want the adult, with short hair and military uniform. This device lets any military-type person play taps.
Re:bugle != trumpet (Score:2)
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Re:bugle != trumpet (Score:2)
(I was a bugler for the boy scouts and a Bb trumpet player in my high school's Marching Band)
Re:I guess I'm lazy (Score:2)
Re:Rascal? (Score:2)
Maybe because it's not a "Gadget for the Lazy", but a tool to help the elderly and the disabled to still lead a somewhat mobile life?