America's Worst Christmas Parties 406
Ant writes "Slate Magazine asked its readers to submit reports of horrible office Christmas parties, gifts, and bonuses. Of nearly 200 submissions, they've chosen quite a few tales for The Corporate Scrooge Contest Results ... and they're not pretty. From the article: 'A contract consultant sends word that the company to which he is currently assigned recently sent out an e-mail to some 2,000-odd consultants. The company would give away two $100 gift cards--to two of the brave souls who would commit to work 80 hours between Dec. 18 and Dec. 31. As our correspondent noted: "Hey, if you work Christmas, we'll put you in a pool of 2,000 other folks to maybe win a hundred bucks."'"
Christmas Vacation (Score:5, Funny)
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I had the "Hallelujah. Holy shit" portion as my critical error beep for quite a while.
Re:Christmas Vacation (Score:4, Interesting)
It is more of an insult than a "thank you for your team effort". A simple handshake would be better.
Here is my fathers work [ladhs.org]
Bless my Pops. [i-bless.com] and curse his boss [i-curse.com]
Re:Christmas Vacation (Score:4, Insightful)
That sucks. A suggestion?
Maybe suggest your father, for the New Year, looks for a better job? I'm betting he is salary? There is NO reason to be working an extra 40 hrs for them for free.
Never work for free.....you time is too valuable.
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Cookies (Score:2, Funny)
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One of the years I was working retail was in the electronics section at a large department store (I won't say which but it rhymes with Fred Buyers), that was even worse. Not only were the customers
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The last two summers I was an instructor at a computer camp (I will name them it's id Tech Camps, if you're looking for a good computer camp for your kids or some nerdy summer work you really can't go wrong, they're an awesome company. Note that I no longer work for them, this isn't any kind of paid pitch). they give the director of each camp location a bunch of money to treat the other staff at the end of the summer. The first year I w
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Bah humbug. (Score:5, Insightful)
When I was working for corporations, I always expected a bonus, gifts, whatever at holiday time and was nearly always dissapointed.
Now that I've been working for myself the last couple of years, I don't make as much money as I did with corporations, but I'm generally a happier person, in that I can set my own hours (well, somewhat) and spend more time with my family and friends. That to me is far more useful than any trinket or bonus.
I've also come to realize that token gifts from the company NEVER meant anything, and was never anything I could ever use - the corporate logo paperweight fits that bill - much like the years of service gifts with the coporate logos on them.
Sure, when I got bonuses the extra money was nice, but really, it's not something anyone should come to expect.
Don't expect anything and you won't be dissappointed. They're already paying you to do you job.
Re:Bah humbug. (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Bah humbug. (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Bah humbug. (Score:5, Insightful)
Remember your company is not a person. You don't owe it anything beyond your time and the terms of your employment. Anything else has got to cost more to your company. Also demand as much money as possible, they will never ever give you a penny above that.
Finally, unionize. Your employee is trying very hard to reduce your pay as much as possible, you need a way to fight for what you are due.
It's a war, fight to win.
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If you never do anything more / work a minute more than what is expected of you I would like to ask you if you tend to shop at stores that fulfill the simplest of obligations or the ones that have employees which go out of there way to help you?
The only saying that hard work is its own reward might be a little bit bullshit, but let's face it, you feel better when you do a good job over doing a poor one. The people who
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Re:Bah humbug. (Score:4, Insightful)
Furthermore, I do tend to shop at minimum service stores for exactly that reason - no matter how up-scale the store, there is no guarantee of quality of service. I've been screwed over enough times - paying up-scale prices and receiving down-scale service, that I've learned not to play that game any more.
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As a consumer I would rather go to a store that gives me good service. But I am not speaking as a consumer. I am speaking as an employee. As an employee in a store since I am being paid hourly I would rather you go to another store so I can get paid for not helping
Re:Bah humbug. (Score:4, Interesting)
It usually starts as "help out the company", get the project done on time... then devolves into you MUST do X amount mandatory "free" work or you're not "dedicated". As soon as the employees start giving out "free" work to get themselves caught up, the corporation immediately will rely on them to do the free work again.... and again... instead of updating their resources for the increased needs they have. I worked one place that pushed that to the limit.. I ended up leaving, but I wanted to "help out" with stuff not my specialty, then it just became "assumed" I would do it whenever with no more pay... or at least the "no more pay" gets forgot about when you go to say the "extra" stuff's not working out and you need somebody else to fill in a while... then it becomes "lazy employee's" fault for failing, "helping out" is almost always PUNISHED, never truly rewarded because it's not what you were "hired" for and somebody "hired" for the position you "helped" in will always do it better than you.
Re:Bah humbug. (Score:5, Insightful)
I've worked 9 to 5 (IT and services), union and non-union (Airlines). Unions have their place, but they are always going to have overhead. When the jobs aren't in horribly short supply, you can typically negotiate way better on your own. Working for America West (union), the guys I worked with would always do the bare minimum of what they were required to do to get paid. The pay took this into consideration, and it wasn't very good. I was there to work (didn't really need the money, but the flight benefits were nice); my coworkers would get ticked that I would take break time to go help out people on other gates. I'm paid to work, not paid to sit around - despite what the union contract said. Merit didn't matter, promotions and pay were based on time served, and it was almost impossible to get yourself promoted, or fired.
I also went to work for Mesa Airlines (America West Express, same facilities and terminal. Non union.) From what I understand, they weren't allowed to pay more than America West (contractual obligations); however, it didn't really matter. On time for work - $0.25/hour bonus. Working during the summer - $100 bonus. Company did well - $100 bonus. I made way more than any of the America West guys did in the same position, and since my coworkers could be fired, we got a way better caliber employee. Since the union didn't get involved, it was a lot easier for motivated people to make more money, and get promoted. On the other hand, lazy people who are just there to pay their dues do tend to stay where they are.
Finally, unionize. Your employee[sic] is trying very hard to reduce your pay as much as possible, you need a way to fight for what you are due.
This, quite frankly, can be stupid advice depending on the state, and the company. I run a software company, and I hate unions with a passion. I'm in a right to work state for a reason (sadly, airlines are covered under the railway act, and can unionize). If you are a competent, hard-working, educated person, with a skill useful enough to justify your salary, you should not (generally speaking - there are some exception) need a union.
I do take offense to the "trying very hard to reduce your pay" quip. Not all employers are like this, and I most certainly am not one of them. Paying employees the same, regardless of the quality of the work they do, results in disgruntled, unproductive, unhappy employees who do the bare minimum required to not get fired. Why would you want to run a company you wouldn't want to work for? I choose to pay above average rates, for above average service. I'll pay for education, too. Employees who have fun, and are paid well for what they do are less likely to go to the competition, less likely to produce crap software, less likely to steal. I have one employee (a developer) who is utterly irreplaceable. He is one of the top people in his field. He also makes more than I do, because he adds more to the company than I do. I can be honest; he does things for the company that I can't. I have another employee who will be making a $25,000 USD bonus after this last contract we made. That's more than what he made in two years at his last job (not a US guy).
In short, while I don't know everyone, I do know me (and a few jobs I've worked). Not everyone is out there to screw you; however, large corporations tend to be really large for a reason (and it's not being nice). Learn a skill worth something, and go to work in a field where you can make a difference (whether for yourself, or someone else). Work with a group of people who care about each other, where it's not just about squeezing every last bit of productivity out of an employee before you discard his drained husk.
Of course, if the economy gets REALLY screwed up [housingdoom.com], unions may once again serve a useful purpose. When you have college graduates working at McDonalds (nationwide, so moving isn't an o
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Worse any good programmer may still have a job but with the influx of extra unemployeed workers on the market the salary goes down.
To me unions are no different than corporations getting together and putting caps on the price of workers or p
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If you can easily find people to do a job for $25k then it isn't worth $65k.
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You obviously don't understand how a _sensible_ company works. I am an owner in the company - with the exception of a buyout, that's not going to change any time soon.
That being said, when it comes to salary, I can (and have) gone without, so that the employees can be paid. When times are lean (all companies are startups at some point, and we didn't use VC money), we all make sacrifices. A company without directi
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What the fuck? Unions exist to get the best package for employees. All the employees. The employees know that if they don't stand together they will be fucked.
"Negotiating on an individual level allows each employee to demand what s/he feels is the
Unions ? (Score:3, Insightful)
Unions and such are not needed. Only thing is needed is the awareness of the 'people'. If people know and accept that some wage is very suckily low, and have the awareness not to go for it (unless they are desperate), there will be no exploit.
And as for the argument that says 'there always be desperate people', i can say only this : in a civil society there should be no desperate peop
Re:Bah humbug. (Score:5, Insightful)
You missed the last part. (Score:5, Insightful)
If you wanted or expected more, you should have asked for it up front. It amazes me that people complain about not getting something they didn't ask for in the first place.
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Absolutely. Most reasonable people who have been working for a least a little while know to ask (or maybe I'm just giving people too much credit). For example, if you get an offer letter that says your job description may change over time (I actually received one with that phrase), you seriously need to ask what those changes will be. Since they bothered to mention it in the offer letter, they shou
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Just scraping by on the safe side of the law is poor business.
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Agreed and agreed. But given what you have written above - why do companies organize those insultingly shitty parties? My answer is that they try to make their employees think it is not like that - they are a big happy family and should happily work harder (than the contracted minimum) to keep it this way. And if that isn't a good reason to complain, at least it is a good reason to ma
Re:You missed the last part. (Score:4, Interesting)
But yeah, when a company tries to save payroll costs by squeezing its staff too hard, management has no right whatsoever to expect anything resembling loyalty from said employees
And once that kind of corporate behavior becomes widespread (which it most certainly has here in the U.S.), employee loyalty drops and turnover increases. Workers feel no particular involvement with the success or failure of their employer, and will leave at the drop of a hat
There are a lot of Carly Fiorinas running the show nowadays: the work force is expendable.
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Heh, my boss has said this to me in almost as many words. I'm part time, but she expects me to be on call the entire time the computer lab (where I work) is open. Plus, the lab assistants are college students, but she expects them to fit their classes around the lab's schedule (and is only offering 9 hours a week of work).
This is why I'm quitting to teac
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Reverse it... (Score:5, Funny)
Charles
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No mention of HP? (Score:5, Interesting)
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Sounds like Apple made a classy move. I'll have to keep it in mind for the future.
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What is the legal basis for docking your salary? If you are a salaried employee, they are obligated to pay you so long as you are willing and able to work. If they choose to shut down you can't be penalized for that.
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If the company I work for offers me $32k annually, and I make that much by December 15th, there's no rule that says they must pay me through December 31st, whether I work or not. Now, most companies are not like this. However,
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I didn't make any such assumption because I wouldn't call what you describe "docking salary". Yes, there are employers that pay salary on some sort of irregular schedule. (Many universities theoretically pay you only during nine months, though they usually give you the option of spreading out the paychecks over 11 or 12.) If you get a certain annual salary and the company closes down longer than it used to at Christmas without any effect on the amount of money you receive, they've simply lengthened your pa
Cheapskates! (Score:5, Funny)
I still have it, 8 years later. I'm no longer with the company though.
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I had a similar experience with a bonus all out of proportion with level of "above and beyond" effort I had been asked to put in. That was my wake-up call to go independent.
Now, when I go "above and beyond" its in my contract and I get paid commensurate with the work I put in.
Re:Cheapskates! (Score:4, Interesting)
December hits, and our company buys another company for 8+ million dollars, in cash. Two weeks later, they pay off some big loans with cash, eating almost a million dollars in pre-payment penalties on top of the loan amounts. The profit sharing pool drops to zero on the last week of the month.
Christmas comes and they pass out $15 gift certificates for Safeway as appreciation for all of our hard work. Most of the certificates were collected and given to the local food bank as a mass protest. I haven't paid attention to bonus programs or incentive programs since.
What's the tax situation on corporate gift giving? (Score:2)
$100
$100 book tokens.
$100 gold coins.
$100 theatre tickets.
etc. Is it simply the value that matters or does the item itself matter?
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What companies give the BEST Christmas Gift? (Score:3, Funny)
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We also received 'end of the year' checks for $1,000 after taxes and our bonus is usually around 10% of our yearly gross (so anywhere from $11,000 to $20,000 for most employees).
When I take a second to think about it, I really consider myself fortunate. I love this company.
TLF
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--chuck
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I think I might need to work in Big Oil now...
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Employees of public companies can always become part owners too, just like everyone else. Often even cheaper with stock options and employee purchase plans and the like, now t
Yup. (Score:2)
And that's how.
I work for Big Oil too... (Score:3, Interesting)
Insanity, but there
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I give cash (Score:5, Funny)
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Eh. That's life. (Score:5, Interesting)
I work at a daily newspaper as an artist and web developer (primarily) - high stress, low pay.
We got $20 Chamber of Commerce gift certificates. Woo. I actually wouldn't care if my hours were decent - while I am supposed to only work 8 hours a day (and regulations state that I can't work more than 6 hours without a break), I have many days where I end up working late when everybody else leaves.
Take, for instance, the day before Thanksgiving. It started at 9 AM, and went until about 12:30 AM Thanksgiving morning, with no break. 15.5 hours. The overtime sucked, too (thanks to taxes).
This friday everybody in the office was told that they could leave at 3 assuming the paper was done. Of course, this means that hourly employees lose a couple hours work. Thankfully, though, my day wasn't done - not even close - at 3 PM. Most people left - one of the artists stuck around and helped for a while, but there wasn't much she could do, so she left too. I got home about 7:30 PM.
Of course, since I'm just a 5 minute walk from the office (I couldn't afford a car and gas, anyway), I'm the one who gets called in whenever something needs to be fixed before the paper can print.
Hooray. $20 that can only be used locally at select places. That makes me feel really valuable. Sad part is, corporate actually has a policy against Christmas bonuses.
We have to pay for our christmas party. (Score:5, Interesting)
Did I mention we get nothing in terms of bonuses, etc?
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No alcohol or ciggies at Le Mart de Wal (Score:5, Funny)
I'd blow it on ammunition anyway.
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Does Wal-Mart even carry
Leftover Corporate Paraphernalia (Score:2, Interesting)
A few years back I made the mistake of bringing my wife
feliz navidud (Score:2, Interesting)
Can anyone top this? (Score:3, Interesting)
Kind of like Ebenezer Scrooge, but without the repentance at the end.
It's Christmas (Score:3, Funny)
It's the thought that counts..........Now that I think about it bite me.
Hey, we always get a Christmas bonus... (Score:5, Funny)
Ah, yes! My first Christmas bonus. (Score:5, Insightful)
Union shop == no bonuses (Score:3, Interesting)
Each Christmas my immediate supervisor has gotten everyone in my workgroup something, either jackets, small tools, gift certificates, or something useful. For a few years I worked at a division office and the main department management never gave us anything, but they didn't owe us anything either. Since moving home the local manager of the main department sees to it that we get one of the same things they give the members of their department. Again, he doesn't have to do it, but it definitely makes a person feel appreciated.
However, we don't have anything like Christmas parties and such, though, we do get plenty of paid holiday time this time of the year which is nice. Being union means that their are no performance bonuses for anyone unless everyone gets them and then it would be the same amount. While a sizable bonus would be nice, I'll take steady work and sane hours and good pay throughout the year instead.
Our Christmas party... (Score:2)
It was a no-spouse Christmas party, so I was going to skip anyway, but still - nice holiday spirit.
OfficeMax (Score:2)
1) Where I worked, sales tax was 8.6%
2) Who the hell wants to buy Christmas gifts at an office supply store? Criminy.
Big Surprise. (Score:5, Interesting)
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I'm not defending her (she's a selfish bitch, to be sure), but she didn't do anything that the company didn't allow.
My Christmas poinsettia. (Score:2)
Wait a minute.... (Score:5, Insightful)
It's not Jesus day... (Score:3, Informative)
Crappy company bonuses (Score:3, Interesting)
Last year, I worked for a telemarketer. On Thanksgiving, they gave away turkeys, like good 15 pound turkeys, which is a pretty darned stand-up thing to do. For Christmas they promised all employees in our section a dinner, paid for by the company. The big day comes around, and what do we get? $5.00 certificates for the Italian place in the food court of the mall (the telemarketer's office is in a mall). Bastards.
At my current programming job, they give gifts to employees yearly. The CEO had us all up to his office for snacks and drinks. This year he gave out what I'm wearing now, which is a rather nice bathrobe (company logos, etc., but they had to specially order them), probably worth well over $75.00. Last year, the employees got jackets. Total cost to the company? Maybe a couple of grand. Increase in morale, including myself? Priceless. See, I don't mind being told "No Christmas bonus/gift because we can't spare the money," I'm totally fine with that. But don't insult me if you're going to give me a gift, I appreciate knowing that the company somewhat cares about me, and isn't just placating me with some meaningless token that they probably got on the cheap because they felt the need to placate the employees.
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About 10 years ago, that gained a bit more of a close-to-home meaning. I met someone who I came to love very much. When she was younger, she was one of the kids that was in that sort of situation for most of her childhood.
Now every time I give, I tend to think of her.
Try working for the state (Score:2)
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Myself and a few others quit the day we heard about the new vehicles.
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We made bonus! Oops, no you didn't. (Score:3, Interesting)
How's this for a non-bonus, bonus.
Working for a fortune 250 company our bonus was based on performance. One year our objective was 32% gross margin. We finished the year with 32.4% gross margin. That meant we made or objective and qualified for a year end bonus. A good one too, like 10% of annual pay.
The rub. The bonus was considered an expense. To pay the bonus and add it to the B&E would drop us to 31.8% gross margin. So, although we busted our collective asses that year and met our objectives, they wouldn't pay the bonus because to do so would drop us below our objective.
It gets better.
Then came a brilliant idea from the management. What if they only paid the exempt managers? A percentage of the managers bonuses were paid from a corporate account. Wa-la. That would only drop our numbers to 32.1%.
I'll let you guess what happened that year. It was also the year I learned the meaning of corporate.
-[d]-
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My assumption was larger company == more responsibility and more power. Seems i was wrong.My ex-boss was a nice guy and occassionally dropped me at my home in his station wagon when my car was out at service.
And when i worked late, we got pizzas, etc.,
Only thing was there was no chance of progressing upward like becoming an Enterprise Architect or something.
This LARGE bank i work for is pretty corpo
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Winning formula for small businesses:
1) Hire competent people
2) Let them do their job
3) Pay them well for 2
I run a small software company, and your boss sounds like he runs things similarly to me. What's the point in having burned out, unhappy employees who work for less than everyone else (usually for a good reason). Makes much more sense to hire good people, and pay them well - ideally sharing in the success of the company
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There is a simple reason - if done properly, they can help raise morale and build team spirit. Unfortunately, the only places that tend to do them properly (if they do them at all) are the ones that already foster good morale and team spirit.
As for bonuses, they're nice unless they're small and insulting. In the latter case, the company might as well no
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Or better yet - a trained war ape armed with a pair of mellon style maces *wicked laugh*
Though the monkey would probably be cheaper to care for...
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I'm about ready to sell the house and use that money to pay off all my bills, then get a small apartment and flip hamburgers.
Just don't work for mcdonalds, all they give you is a shitty pen with a mcdonald land character on it.... a different one each year!
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