Third Stargate TV Series Named

GateWorld has a story about the new Stargate series. "The working title of the third 'Stargate' television series is 'Stargate Universe', executive producer Robert C. Cooper told GateWorld. The show currently exists in the form of a one-page treatment of the story and characters. Cooper and executive producer Brad Wright will start writing the pilot after shooting on the two 'Stargate SG-1' movies finishes in June. Meanwhile, new episodes of 'SG-1' and 'Atlantis' start airing April 13 in the U.S., on The SCI FI Channel. "

Moo

[Chacham]

And, in this *completely new* series, SG-1 finds that they can dial yet another number and travel the multi-verse. To power it, they need to turn the Earth into a giant powersource, but Macgyver figures out how to do it with duct tape and chewing gum.

On arrival they find an empty room where the 42 original member of the Multiversal Council met to populate the universe, but they won't talk to them because they don't know enough yet. They get ticked off and start blowing things up, and are sent back to their home universe which is now set to be destroyed.

The series focuses on how the erstwhile enemies must get together and fight the coomon enemy, all before Macgyver dies of old age.

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[AndroidCat]

Actually, the Multiversal Council figures that we owe on the Asgard's bar tab. (Those little guys drink like crazy and it wasn't cloning gone wrong that killed them--it was a million years of time-shifted hangovers sent to the future that were finally catching up with them.)

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[naoursla]

I hope not.

I'd rather see the Stargate program become public knowledge on Earth and have the show turn into Earth's transition into a space faring society.

There must be more SG than ST by now.....

[ip_freely_2000]

...it seems like SG-SG1 has been on forever. Then there's that Atlantis show that's been on a while.

For such a successful series SG seems to have very little of the cultural impact or generate the extreme opinion that ST had. It's like SG has always been 'okay', but ST was 'great' but then simply wore out it's welcome.

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[linguizic]

The thing about SG is that it has it's base of hardcore fans like ST, but that group is smaller than the hardcore fans of ST. However, SG has lots of average Joe watchers who like it and will go out of their way to press the button on the remote to watch it when it's on. That's something that ST doesn't have.

Re:There must be more SG than ST by now.....

[mrbooze]

According to my wife, who has at times been involved in some SG-1 fan groups/lists/boards/etc, a seemingly shockingly large contingent of Stargate fans are military folk, either active military themselves or military spouses. I've always been curious about this, and wondered if there is similar military fanbases of other major sci-fi shows, or if SG-1 attracts more of them for some reason. Perhaps the military premise and involvement with the show?

Re:There must be more SG than ST by now.....

[Pharmboy]

From my experience, military people are more likely to be SciFi fans in general. I'm ex USAF myself and was raised in a military family (although my father was more into reading and watching tons of western novels and shows). I think the same could be said about reading books. Military people tend to drag books around, because you know you will have to "hurry up and wait" or just have downtime, often in places with nothing else to do. Or perhaps SciFi is just a nice escape from an otherwise stressful job. I'm sure the military aspects of the show help as well, as you point out.

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[C A S S I E L]

Well, that's because it's apparently a "franchise."

Meanwhile, I lost a bet. My money was on either Stargate:Miami or Stargate:NY.

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[vjmurphy]

Though all of them can be consolidated under one name: Stargate: Hey, All the Planets We Visit Look Like British Columbia. Same for Battlestar Galactica, too.

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[AndroidCat]

Even stranger, all those BC planets in various galaxies have the same pseudo-medieval village.

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[mpe]

Even stranger, all those BC planets in various galaxies have the same pseudo-medieval village.

Maybe the Canadians can use pseudo-medieval villages as tourist attractions. If things get really bad South of the border they can even people them with American refugees.

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[Björn]

And even stranger, everyone seems to speak English.

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[AndroidCat]

Not all men. As we push out into the universe, we discover that even small communities that have been isolated (and more than a tad inbred) for thousands of years have a balanced population of visible minorities.

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[Fred Ferrigno]

Reminds me of how ethnically-diverse and culturally-sensitive 12th century England [wikipedia.org] was.

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[AJWM]

Considering that Smallville is shot at the studio next door, it's amazing that Kansas doesn't look like British Columbia too. (Not that it necessarily looks like Kansas, either.)

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[forgoil]

What about CSI:Atlantis? :)

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[vidarh]

Star Trek is more than 40 years old. People have grown up with it, either the original run of TOS or reruns, the movies or TNG. It's had time to establish a far wider fan base. It's also much more accessible than SG1.

Star Trek is essentially morality plays set in space. Its only half-assed departure from the one episode morality play formula was Deep Space 9, and even that was full of short morality plays intermingled with the longer story arks. The advantage of that formula is that you don't need the aud

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[pinkocommie]

I beg to differ. One of the primary reasons I like SG1 (and dislike Atlantis) is about the strong underlying themes about theology and religious exploitation. About people doing acts of lunacy (The Season 1 ep Politics) based on faith. How blind faith wreaks havoc and how easily people are manipulated. One of my favorite lines from the show

TEAL'C: I thought it fitting that on this day when we must sacrifice our short lived freedom that we do so here...at the site of the Battle of salsacksor...where you

Re:There must be more SG than ST by now.....

[StikyPad]

Deep Space 9...was full of short morality plays intermingled with the longer story arks.

Look, if God tells you to build a longer story ark, you build it.

-Space Noah

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[mdwh2]

Star Trek: 5 series, 704 episodes, 10 films, spanning several decades.
Stargate: 2 series, 274 episodes, 1 film, spanning just over one decade.

(From Wikipedia)

So to be fair, they don't anywhere near compare on numbers, or how long they've been around.

And I think the other posters are right about there being more competition - look how the mainstream/cultural impact of Star Trek seems to be significantly less with later series.

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[The Good Reverend]

To further that, something I calculated when Enterprise went off the air:

Now that Star Trek's over, it's interesting to see exactly how much Star Trek there is (canon only, add 660 minutes/11 hours if you include The Animated Series):

Movies:

The Motion Picture: 132 minutes
The Wrath of Khan: 113 minutes
The Search for Spock: 105 minutes
The Voyage Home: 119 minutes
The Final Frontier: 107 minutes
The Undiscovered Country: 113 minutes
Generations: 118 minutes
First Contact: 106 minutes
Insurrection: 103 minutes
Nemesi

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[Belial6]

Richard Dean Anderson actually said it was a comedy, so, I would have to say you are right. It was in one of those "making of"s. It might have been the 100th episode.

'Our' military?

[teh kurisu]

"One of the things that we love about Stargate is that is us -- it's our military, it's our scientists, it's our people -- and we're going out into the galaxy and the universe to discover all the wonders that are out there, and dealing with our own limitations versus things that are far more advanced than us." - Robert C. Cooper

I take it Cooper's talking in relative terms, given that he's Canadian (along with most of the cast and crew) and the US Air Force, well, isn't.

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[Syberghost]

The lion's share of the protection of Canadian airspace comes from the US. That's why the 2nd-largest land area country in the world can afford to have a military that would fit entirely (sans vehicles) in the football stadium of any NCAA Division 1 university.

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[Pyrion]

They offset that rise in technology by creating enemies wherein they literally were back to square one. Great, so they had battlecruisers. So what? They had battlecruisers arrayed against two new enemies (the Ori and the Wraith) that both had their means of practically negating the advantages the Daedalus-class maintained against the Goa'uld. The Daedalus-class came too late to do much of anything against the Goa'uld and couldn't do much of anything against the Ori or the Wraith, the latter being a case of

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[Pyrion]

It was used quite casually because it was Asgard technology. Heck we could go so far as to refer to it as "magic" because it never failed. It was 100% guaranteed success every single time. The novelty wore off.

Though I should also point out that beaming technology was used quite often before the Asgard interfered. Ancient ring teleportation, stolen from the Goa'uld, was used quite excessively before the Asgard gave Earth their "upgrade." Technically they still have ring transporters on the Daedalus, presuma

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[Pyrion]

Oh crap. I just forgot, in a couple of cases it did fail, the aforementioned Wraith scrambling the transporter beam to prevent nukes being brought on board, and the hasty repairs to the transporter to attempt to beam Teal'c off of... what was it, a Lucian Alliance hatak? In both cases though it ultimately ended up being an Asgard responsible for attempting to fix the problem, and they never really got around the Wraith's counter. If there's no Asgard around to fix the problem, do we assume they left an inst

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[bigbigbison]

On the other hand, how silly would it be for them to be visiting and dealing with advanced space-traveling civilizations for 10 years and not have anything to show for it?
I for one would like to see them try to use even more tech. Everyone they fight seems to have energy weapons and they still use guns? They have at least once tried to explain that guns are better for killing than zappers, but why don't they routinely carry zappers to stun people who they want to make peace with?

Learn from Star Trek

[Ambitwistor]

After the success of ST:TNG, the whole franchise got run into the ground. Arguably the later Star Trek series weren't as good, but I think they just oversaturated the market with spinoff after spinoff. Too much of a good thing and people will just get tired of it, and Stargate on television has been going on in one form or another for 10 years already. Maybe it's better to focus on just one series at a time, and end each series gracefully before it jumps the shark.

Re:Learn from Star Trek

[FroBugg]

That's kind of a silly statement. Voyager and Enterprise sure took it down the tubes, but DS9, especially the last half of its run, was as good as TNG ever was, if not better.

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[Ambitwistor]

A lot of fans will argue with you about DS9. That aside, the existence of DS9 doesn't really disagree with my point. A series can survive a spinoff, and SG:Atlantis is doing okay. It's when you get greedy and start piling on spinoff after spinoff that people start losing interest. It's like Hollywood and their love of making 5 sequels to a blockbuster. Even when the sequels don't suck, you just get tired of them. The same goes for stretching out a single series for too long. Making a spinoff supposed

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[MurphyZero]

Voyager at times could be alright, but in general I agree with your assessment. DS9 definitely started off slowly, but once they had several plot lines going through all the episodes, it really took off. In fact, I preferred the later episodes of DS9 to most of TNG.

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[SplasPood]

I totally agree. While I've always liked next gen, and voyager had its good episodes, DS9 was by far the most interesting cohesive story... Of course next gen barely bothered with that at all.

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[Paralizer]

While I agree, I think it should be pointed out that SG-1 and Atlantis have done some interesting things in terms of using elements of each show concurrently in the other. For example, something may occur in SG-1, then the next week (or perhaps even the same week) those events will somehow influence what happens in Atlantis. While the shows are completely separate, I think the writers are doing a great job of keeping the whole stargate universe together as a whole and not just ignoring events that are hap

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[zCyl]

I think they just oversaturated the market with spinoff after spinoff.

A lot of the Star Trek spin-offs had very good seasons and very good content. The problem is that most of them were driven into the ground at one point or another by painfully bad writers, and producers who didn't really understand the genre they were producing. They ended up with people involved who wanted to tell other kinds of stories, like Enterprise's repeated obsession with "two people are trapped in a bubble and think they're goi

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[WilliamSChips]

I think very few of the problems which plagued the later Star Treks were due to the choice to have spin-offs, and most of them were simply due to hiring and direction decisions which seemed very unwise.

In other words, Gene Roddenberry dying.

So far I do not see the Stargates suffering from this problem.

In other words, Brad Wright is still alive.

Long path from treatment to series.

[Dock]

A treatment is akin to an inventor writing down an idea on a cocktail napkin. Before they even get to the pilot script, it'll have to be expanded by another nine pages or so, and if it exists as part a development deal rather than something done on spec, it'll most likely go back and forth between the exec and the studio a half dozen times before just that ten page treatment is given the OK.

The pilot script will probably go through at least that amount of haggling, and would need to be followed up with or maybe even proceeded by an entire series treatment which will probably take weeks if not months to do, before the studio would even consider shooting the pilot.

Not trying to rain on the parade or anything, I just want to put into perspective what this means, which isn't a whole lot right now. This is step one out of tens of dozens. Long way to go here.

Long path, but they started years ago

[Nymz]

I don't want to spoil anything, but the current (or recent) series incorporated a number of significant universe changes based upon where they want to go in the future. And not just for the spin-off series that starts humans off from scratch, but for the planned MMORPG where certain races would be too powerful or disruptive. Kind of explains the resurgance of the Goa'uld as they can be a very balanced opponent race to humans.

"Third"?

[HTH NE1]

The working title of the third 'Stargate' television series is 'Stargate Universe'

Actually, that would be the fourth series:

1. Stargate SG-1 (1997) [imdb.com]
2. Stargate Infinity (2002) [imdb.com]
3. Stargate Atlantis (2004) [imdb.com]
4. Stargate Universe

They always forget/suppress the animated series, just like Star Trek (1973) [imdb.com].

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[Joe The Dragon]

Stargate Infinity (2002) is not part of the sg1 / sga story line.

Different fan perspectives

[bill_mcgonigle]

They always forget/suppress the animated series, just like Star Trek (1973) [imdb.com].

ST:TAS is still in my Netflix queue, but as I understand it, it's considered canon, and a continuation of TOS after its cancellation. Stargate Infinity (Wormhole Extreme: TAS) is considered something to run from screaming by fans of the live action series.

I only saw one episode, but quickly surmised the above truism based on that viewing.

Of course, I now brace for the replies about I missed the deeper philosophical meani

Non-canonical

[John Guilt]

(I thought of this a decade ago; the similar reference somewhere in this discussion is coincidental, though more likely because the whole thing is so geeky the feathers are stuck in my teeth.)

Q.: What's the deal with the "Star Trek" animated series.

A.: One morning, Yeoman Rand (or Spock, if you really must) looked groggily up from the bed; Kirk stepped out of the sonic shower and said, "I just had the strangest dream."

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[HTH NE1]

ST:TAS is still in my Netflix queue, but as I understand it, it's considered canon, and a continuation of TOS after its cancellation.

Gene retconned the animated Star Trek series, saying he only did it for money and if he knew he'd continue the series he never would have allowed things that went into that series. (And he would have fixed the Klingons then: Gene's stance was that Klingons always looked they way they do in the movies; he just didn't have the budget to do them right. He was dead by the time

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[bill_mcgonigle]

Not to say I wouldn't get Infinity on DVD myself just to rip and remix for ridicule.

Hey, you're not giving them very good incentive to make good videos - if they're great you'll buy them, if they're steaming crap you'll buy them. :)

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[HTH NE1]

Hey, you're not giving them very good incentive to make good videos - if they're great you'll buy them, if they're steaming crap you'll buy them. :)

Well, if they're only mediocre, I won't buy them. And I won't buy just any crap. I still haven't bought Evil Alien Overlords [imdb.com]. Granted, it has a craptastic theme song, but huge swaths of it are just too painful to sit through. In some ways Laserblast [imdb.com] was a masterpiece compared to that movie (and is better with the MST3K treatment).

But still not as bad as

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[bill_mcgonigle]

But still not as bad as L. Ron Hubbard's Mission Earth series. I couldn't force my way through Volume 2 of that piece of crap and would rather burn any copies on sight.

Just stay away from Attack of the Killer Tomatoes. You'll get all Oedipal on your eyes. And you ears when the theme song comes on.

A work that expires before its copyright never enters the public domain and thus enjoys eternal copyright protection.

Is that yours? I want to know who to quote in my bugzilla quotebank.

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[Teancum]

Of course when the "Stargate Infinity" did broadcast, it was at 5:00 AM, as if anything other than infomercials are typically broadcast at that time.

My kids are huge Stargate fans, but only ended up seeing about two of these episodes, even though they would watch an animated show about paint drying. Perhaps it is just as well that this show never achieved any decent ratings and lasted for any reasonable length of time. I sometimes shut off the TV to avoid brain damage to my kids, but this wasn't one that

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[Akaihiryuu]

The producers of Stargate specifically stated that Infinity is not canon...none of the people involved with Stargate had anything to do with it, and it doesn't follow most of the rules for stargate travel that were laid down. It should basically be considered a Stargate-"themed" series that has nothing whatsoever to do with Stargate itself. It was something that was basically done to be a fun kid's show...it may not be all bad, but it doesn't happen in the Stargate universe.

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[HTH NE1]

The producers of Stargate specifically stated that Infinity is not canon...

As it should be (non-canon). But that still doesn't make it not exist as the second Stargate TV series in this reality.

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[irving47]

I don't know if anything was so bad it never got taped and dumped online, but it was REALLY really REALLY bad. Do yourself a favor and don't even try to track any down. Seriously.
If you MUST know anything about it, check out the summaries at gateworld.net under Episodes.

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[Nutria]

before they nail you with a sappy theme song.

That's what DVRs and FF is for...

Gah

[ucblockhead]

Why do they always insist on beating shows into the ground rather than coming up with something new? Stargate's been old and tired for years...since O'Neil left. Stargate:Atlantis has never been anything more than mediocre. It's like Star Trek all over, the show gets lamer and lamer, but they just keep propping up the corpse for "the fans".

It wouldn't bother me so much if it use cash and airtime that could be used for something more original.

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[mpe]

Why do they always insist on beating shows into the ground rather than coming up with something new? Stargate's been old and tired for years...since O'Neil left. Stargate:Atlantis has never been anything more than mediocre. It's like Star Trek all over, the show gets lamer and lamer, but they just keep propping up the corpse for "the fans".

Do you really expect much in the way of imagination from TV execs?
How many of these understand sci-fi let along sci-fi fandom.

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[westlake]

Why do they always insist on beating shows into the ground rather than coming up with something new? Stargate's been old and tired for years... It's like Star Trek all over, the show gets lamer and lamer, but they just keep propping up the corpse for "the fans".

The Enterprise was on a "five year mission" to get enough episodes in the can to become profitable in syndication.

Stargate can get by without expensive F/X. It doesn't have to explain anything.

The gates are ancient, alien, tech that can be worked

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[ucblockhead]

That is true. Unfortunately, they keep telling the same goddamn story over and over. How many variations of "Incredibly powerful and evil force against little 'ol SG-1" can they do?

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SG-1's already available online

[Asmor]

SkyOne aired the second part of season 10 of Stargate SG-1 several months before Sci-Fi did. In fact, they showed the last episode a few weeks ago. They're all available online.

Not that I'm advocating piracy (hell, I own the first 9 seasons on DVD and will get the 10th whenever it comes out), but it's Sci-Fi's fault for dragging their ass and waiting so long to show it. In a globalized world, you don't get to screw people over just so you can get an extra half of a rating point.

I leave it as an exercise for the reader to discover where to get them.

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[WilliamSChips]

Actually, I'd say that by dragging their feet they're losing ratings because the primary reason for the season 10/3(also BSG season 3) ratings drop was the seperation of the Gates and BSG. Of course, Hammer and Stern being the idiots they are, they won't admit that.

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[irving47]

why the heck would they want to admit that when they have the ratings powerhouse otherwise known as ECW Wrestling?!?!
Don't blame the shows for shark jumping. Look at the networks and their TPTB.

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[DDLKermit007]

Wrestling on SciFi is akin to airing cooking shows on Cartoon Network. I figure if I am EXTREMELY bored, and wanna watch some campy/crappy SciFi I flip to the channel. Every time I do that now I manage to find ECW is on.

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[Bert64]

It's unusual for UK viewers to get anything first, usually the UK is in the situation you describe, and lagging 6 months behind the US.
People tend to advocate piracy more when they're being shafted by the networks...

Just hope...

[shawnce]

I just hope SciFi network finds a way to work wrestling into the new series... the world needs more of it... *rolls eyes*

Wrong series

[kabdib]

Enough wasting money already. Bring back Firefly.

(I loved the first few years of SG1, but then it got pretty random and bad, reminding me more and more of the "Forehead of the Week" clubhouse show: STtNG).

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[StarvingSE]

I hear ya. I think it attests to the quality of the show that everytime I throw the DVD's in to watch the occasional episode, I end up watching 4 or 5. And it never gets old. I really don't think the suits at FOX really knew what they were throwing away with Firefly. If they would have marketed it sufficiently and actually play the episodes in their intended order, it could have been successful.

I like the 9th and 10th season

[setrops]

I thought the show was going good. New threat. I like Ben Browder and Claudia Black from Farscape. The show still has some good humour. And most of all, it has a lot of Baal's.

Thanks SciFi

[0100010001010011]

Meanwhile, new episodes of 'SG-1' and 'Atlantis' start airing April 13 in the U.S., on The SCI FI Channel.

I understand how the rest of the world feels with everything being broadcast late. SG-1 has been broadcast in UK for some time (Up to episode 20 currently) and Atlantis has been broadcast in Australia.

I can say I won't be catching these on SciFi since I have them all from BitTorrent.

Networks: Start broadcasting TV shows at the same time... because otherwise we're going to get them anyway.

Why is this news?

[Nom du Keyboard]

Since the series hasn't started shooting yet, doesn't even have its first script or cast of characters yet, will certainly change its name before being broadcast, and exists as a single sheet of paper only, why is this news?

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[SCPRedMage]

No you may not.

Indeed

[Asztal_]

Hallowed are our new intergalactic overlords.

SG-1 movie -vs- Farscape movie

[mosel-saar-ruwer]

shooting on the two 'Stargate SG-1' movies finishes in June

Given the constraints of the budget, I thought the SciFi channel did a darned good job with the movie that ended the Farscape series - they took the concept about as far as it could be taken [I mean, seriously, it's hard to top an out-of-control wormhole that threatens to swallow up the entirety of space-time as we know it], and tied up most of the loose ends [boy meets girl, boy loses girl, boy regains girl plus newborn baby].

I hope they take these Stargate movies at least as seriously - the SG-1 franchise deserves to go out with a bang.

I'd like to see all the species in our galaxy [The Asgard, the Nox [gateworld.net], the Oannes [gateworld.net], Ba'al & his gang, etc etc etc], teaming up a la Justice League of America, or Avengers/Defenders, and going head to head with the Origin armies, in a four-hour epic maelstrom of a battle, with blood and guts and iron and ash and fire and brimstone, and finally wiping those rat bastard Ori off the map forever.

And speaking of going out with a bang, after they've dealt with the Ori once and for all, the male leads could then turn to fighting over who gets to bang Inara Serra [imdb.com].

And it would be really neat if they could convince Kurt Russell & James Spader to come back and play some roles - maybe president & vice president of the USA?

Or perhaps they could be in the cast of "Wormhole X-Treme!".

[And if you wanna get really cynical, it could be revealed that the entire Stargate franchise was merely the fantasy of a writer for "Wormhole X-Treme!" - kinda like how Bobby Ewing just reappeared in the shower one morning [wikipedia.org].]

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[Anonymous Coward]

The Asgard as dead fool. The Tau'ri are the Fifth Race now! Humans have phasers not puny railguns and missiles now. Where have you been?

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[Viper Daimao]

I'd like to see all the species in our galaxy [The Asgard, the Nox, the Oannes...

Don't forget the furlings [wikipedia.org]!

Re:SG-1 movie -vs- Farscape movie

[TheWanderingHermit]

I thought the SciFi channel did a darned good job with the movie that ended the Farscape series

SciFi had nothing to do with shooting the Farscape movie. I wish people would stop giving this channel credit for things like this. The show was canceled with no indication that anything would follow. Then the producers decided they wanted to tie it up and started shooting the mini-series. When they started shooting, they had no idea who would buy it or where it would be shown. SciFi picked it up.

SciFi has hardly any responsibility for the quality, or more often the lack of quality, in their shows. They are produced by other corporations and the shows are sold to SciFi. For instance, remember Stargate: SG1 was on Showtime for the first 5 years of the show. There's even one line in the last episode of the first season that referenced Showtime. When they see the transmitter and Teal'c tells them what it is, O'Neil said, "Does it get Showtime?" Later, in reruns on SciFi, the line was redubbed to remove a reference to Showtime. While SciFi claims the show as an original, it was created elsewhere.

Galactica is a slightly different story, since it involves the parent company of SciFi. Still, it is NOT SciFi that produces these shows.

Re:SG-1 movie -vs- Farscape movie

[Geno Z Heinlein]

SciFi had nothing to do with shooting the Farscape movie. I wish people would stop giving this channel credit for things like this. The show was canceled with no indication that anything would follow.

And Farscape was cancelled after SFC had already renewed it for two seasons, both 4 and 5. SFC pulled the rug from under Farscape after the cliffhanger ending of season 4 was completed. The same thing happened to Forever Knight on USA: USA funded one-third of FK's third and final season, and then pulled the funding at the last minute, leading to the bottle episodes at the end of that show.

As near as I can figure, the common element is someone named Bonnie Hammer, who ran the channels in question at the right times and seems not to like genre shows, based on the Scare Tactics and John Edwards garbage that was the staple of SFC's line-up the last time I subscribed to it.

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[bigbigbison]

While SciFi claims the show as an original, it was created elsewhere.

That also goes for nearly everything that the SciFi channel claims as "SciFi Channel Originals." Most of those crappy monster movies they show on Saturdays are just bought by SciFi rather than made by them.

Re:Why?

[linguizic]

I agree completely. One of the things that made the show so good was that it was almost like watching an RPG, the characters would collect different bits of technology and information helping to move the overall plot of the series. Part of the reason for watching the show was to find out what kind of new technology or factoid about the SG-1 universe would get revealed, or who would be the next system lord to get blown up or blasted by robot Teal'c. Since season 8, there haven't been any new major revelations, no new technology (they seem to be bringing techs from older episodes to fill in that place), no system lords to kill (the writers don't want to kill off Baal b/c they like to use him as the occasional Goa'uld bad guy when they don't want to bother advancing the Ori plot). Speaking of the Ori, they aren't a new interesting bad guy like the replicators, just a slightly modified form of the Goa'uld. For example: the Goa'ulds are parasites who pretend to be gods, the Ori are ascendant beings that pretend to be gods through memetic parasitism. Cameron Mitchel sucks, they should have just added Vala to the team and not worried about replacing O'Neall. They developed O'Neall's character so well, and made all of the personalities of SG-1 fit together so well that just sticking Ben Browder (who is an awful actor) in there messes up the dynamics. And with the exception of one episode in the last two seasons, the show has taken itself way to seriously.

That being said, I'm looking forward to the movies.

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[Belial6]

My primary theory is that SG-1 is getting canceled because of the Christian theme. SG-1 had a few poor seasons. The new bad guys and cast changes have dramatically improved the show. Yes, you will always have people who complain when you have major changes, as they won't like the direction that was chosen, but over all, SG-1 has been much better than it has been in a long time.

The problem that causes it to get canceled? They picked the wrong religion to pick on. SG-1 has always made a mockery of rel

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[westyx]

It's getting cancelled because it's gone on for 10 seasons and is getting stale. I have yet to see anyone complain about the morality of the show.

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[yoder]

Exactly. If it was because of bashing the Christian religion (which is fun and cathartic), we would have seen it on Faux News and the Network Morning Shows:

"This morning on the Early Show, are Stargate SG-1 fans disciples of the Antichrist? More after this word from Walmart."

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[WilliamSChips]

Stargate SG-1 is getting canceled because of a ratings drop related to the fact that the Stargates were seperated from Battlestar Galactica, which murdered BSG's ratings as well.

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[dgatwood]

How does making something that approximates Satan make Catholics out to be evil? It does create a rather bizarre view of the fall, though---one of aliens instead of angels.

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[Pyrion]

I don't think that's why it's getting dumped. There was never that huge of a stink raised over them making fun of religion. Heck I don't recall anyone ever making a stink over it at all. It's always been on cable so who really cares about what happens on cable?

It wasn't even an overt (anti-)Christian theme. The closest it got to being blaringly obvious was the whole "holy grail"/"sangraal" thing yet nobody made a stink over that (on theological grounds anyways). I think Christians these days have a lot more

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[Eli Gottlieb]

Actually, the Ori map pretty much to the Catholics and nobody else.

Traits of the Ori:

1) Central authority structure based on "distance" from deities.
2) Single holy book that only the noted authority can interpret.
3) Waging wars of evangelism.

You find #3 in some strains of Islam and Protestantism, but #1 and #2 are just about exclusive to Catholicism. Jews, Protestants and Muslims have very localized authorities and holy books that any idiot (moreso in Protestantism) can interpret for himself. And of cours

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[The MAZZTer]

4) Whoever did the summary doesn't realize SG-1 has been canceled as a TV series.

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[NDPTAL85]

It hasn't been cancelled yet. The final episodes air this spring/summer.

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[The MAZZTer]

Whoops, I read "August" instead of "April". At any rate the final episode of SG-1 has been available online for over a week now, needless to say I've seen all of them as well as Atlantis'.

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[malsdavis]

It depends where he lives.

Here in the U.K. Season 10 has already completely run and finished (although episode 20 left many doors open so to speak) and there are indeed no new episodes planned to be aired. The Stargate SG-1 show is for all intents and purposes "cancelled". I sure hope they change their minds but I do think the grand-poster is correct in stating that the show has been "cancelled", even if the showbiz lingo is to claim a new series just "hasn't been commissioned" which is really saying the ex

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[CrackedButter]

SG1 is going to continue in the movie format don't forget. 2 are planned for this year and if they are successful, they will be making more.

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[SwedishPenguin]

According to Gateworld [gateworld.net], they will start filming in April.

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[Dance_Dance_Karnov]

and thanks to SkyHD(and others) we here in the US got to see all the eps before they aired here.

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[Gryle]

The series has already finished in Canada and the UK. For some incredibly stupid reason the US broadcaster, Sci-Fi, decided to take a 6 month break half-way into the season and the last 10 episodes won't be aired until sometime in April.

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[mpe]

For some incredibly stupid reason the US broadcaster, Sci-Fi, decided to take a 6 month break half-way into the season and the last 10 episodes won't be aired until sometime in April.

That's no mystery TV execs arn't the brightest...

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[Justin205]

SG1 hasn't finished in Canada, unless it's on a station I don't know about... Space, our equivalent of SciFi, is continuing the second half of the season in a week or two, much as SciFi is. Atlantis' third season, however, *is* finished in Canada. The final episode of season 3 aired on Movie Central at least a month ago, if not more.

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[HateBreeder]

I completely agree with you!
SG-1 should have ended after season 8.

And what's up with this? :

new episodes of 'SG-1' and 'Atlantis' start airing April 13 in the U.S., on The SCI FI Channel.

SG-1 has ended after season 10. There won't be any new episodes on April.

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[runenfool]

While no doubt the loss of RDA (and he really left after season 7 and just kinda phoned it in season 8) was a big loss I still think there have been some really highly rated episodes since then (Im bad with names ... but I recall seeing a few of the season 9/10 episodes in the list of top 10 fan rated episodes). Personally I like the Ori and think they are a decent enemy mostly because of their creepiness and power. "Bad ancients" is just a way for them to continue to have a more powerful enemy in spite o

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[Phleg]

I mostly agree with you. With the finale of Season 8, they closed up every single opened storyline, killed off all the major bad guys, and tied together every loose end. It was over. Richard Dean Anderson threw in the towel, and even Amanda Tapping wouldn't be available for months due to maternity.

Given that, though, they've actually managed to not do a terrible job with seasons nine and ten. The enemy is reasonably interesting, and while there have been a few terrible episodes, most of them managed to be a

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[mpe]

Let it go. You've milked this cow long enough. Let Stargate die in peace. Atlantis too. And BSG too [if it doesn't stop sucking ass with filler episodes].

SG-1 has run for 10 years. This is a long time for any series, especially one where you can't easily change the location and/or cast.
Maybe they'd do better to try something new instead of more Stargate. e.g. give Joss Whedon a call and then give his ideas full backing.

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[26199]

Bring back Red Dwarf or Babylon 5 instead, those haven't been milked enough :)

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[mpe]

The United States, the Best [sic], Greatest [sic], most Awesome [sic] country in the world is, as always, way behind everyone else and /., being based in the US,

IIRC the US is way ahead of the world in quite a few ways. Just that things like "the land of the free" having the worlds biggest prison population isn't much to be proud of.

typically fails to acknowledge the simple fact that everyone in the civilised world has already seen the series finale of SG-1 and the season 3 finale of Atlantis.

When it

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[MobileTatsu-NJG]

"Who, honestly, really gives a fuck? C'mon kids, get off your arse, get ourdoors and get some fresh air! Cut down on your pork life mate, get some exercise! ;p"

Slashdot would have 334 fewer comments in its database if you had taken your own advice. :P